Topic: Yesminer M20 / M10 - page 7. (Read 46890 times)

Just an update from me.
2 days ago I asked for a complete refund of +18k Euro and got excact same answer from Mr. Winkler as Marvin.
My laywers are already informed and YM has until tomorrow to send us our refund.
Time will tell, but I think its going to be a long haul...
According to insite knowledge from our hosting center on iceland YM does actually has reserved space for 500 pc M20 miners...
this confuses me big time.
R
Xircom

If someone needs a lawyer in Germany.
I know one who is something familiar with BTC and has observed yesminers already for some time.

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A: '**********'
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Da:    YesMiners ([email protected]) Questo mittente è nel tuo elenco Posta protetta.
Data invio:   martedì 2 febbraio 2016 21:08:42
A:   '**********'

Dear ************,

please allow our accounting a few days to proceed your refund. When it is done, you will get a message.

Best regards, Mit freundlichen Gr??en

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Tomorrow is their last day! I won't reply to them.

Creating multiple threads can only increase confusion. PM the OP of this thread with a suggestion for a better title but you can also enter your own title when replying and take care of google that way.

Guys, I suggest closing this topic, it drags newbies to this scam, and gives it free advertisement. Some people read the title, and just google the company right away.

If you insist discussing this topic, maybe opening a new topic titled "victims of Yesminer", and over there, we can discuss the number of those victims, the legal measures they took, and how far they got with their refund cases.

Any open box video review yet?! wondering!

Sadly I think you will find it's hard to go after these scam companies.  They set up with a rendering and try to sell miners.  NEVER buy a miner based off a rendering from unknown company.

Best of luck with legal action, but I think you will find them hard to go after.   Most likely they ride into sunset with most of money sent to them.  I almost got taken by one once terrahash, but paypal saved me.  They had looked great at one time... but slowly it fell apart and they rode away with most of money.  A few sued don't know if they actually got anything.  Winning a case and getting money are also two different things.

My last email guys:

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*************
09:23
A: YesMiners
Good morning,
I haven't any trace yet of my requested refunds.
Can you update me please?
I'm sorry but things seem going bad, I just want let you know that if I will not have my money back within thursday, I will be constrained to take legal measures (police and legal actions) against your company.
Sorry, but I have to be clear.
Otherwise, I wish you a good job.
Best regards,
Ing. ************

Wouldn't it be funny if Xircom = Yesminers .. who knows I've been right about everything in this thread so far.  I got .05 coin either way that says Yesminer = 1 person. After seeing those youtube videos I still can't stop laughing.

Exactly! Lets see some real evidence on this hardware

I think your paranoia is getting worse, consider seeing a doctor.

Back on topic, have you received your miners last week as you were adamant you would? A tracking number at least?

Aint it funny that the negative feedback I gave you suddenly is gone from your account.... probably you are the one shilling working with the hacker and moderator. Just a very funny coincedence that all your negative feedbacks just gone.
You are the scammer and bad for the whole community. I feel sorry for Bitcointalk that people like you are around.

Well hell no i thank myself for not purchasing one but i hope this guy gets a very good sickness that can't be cured if am alowed to say so. But somehow to bad that the yesminer does not exist cause it would have been a big welcome but as they say if it's to good to be true then.......

What matters is that your story has more holes than a box of donuts, so maybe that's why you're not getting your account back.

BTW I did look at Xircom's posts. 20+ pages of pumping Litecoindark stands out, as well as shilling for a few other scams. That doesn't prove anything either way and is irrelevant to the alleged account hack.

boy that guy is really really trying hard not to sell you anything...i mean a quick cell phone video of the 'units' sitting about pop one open and the money from you is blamo right there
and a 'sure sale' so much a scam ..hell he (for the sale) would prob say sure ..fax you a NDA (non-disclosure agreement) you sign send back he is protected privacy wise you have proof and he has your money!.......

sheesh ...hope you are just messing with him and DID NOT get any (pretty sure you did not)

As i read the posts here i have tried to contact the support page looking for any proof of existense for the yesminer but as you can read in my mail to them and the respons is there not coöperating on any way. So scam and i'm not buying. To bad and i feel sorry for the guys who did buy yesminers. I hope this guy has a short and misserable life!!!

Hi there again...

Is there not a picture that you can send me from a couple of yesminers just to make sure? Maybe that will make my mind up

Greets

Op 1 feb. 2016 om 00:14 heeft YesMiners <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven:

Dear Marvin,

if someone want to make a video, he will. But if anybody thinks a video will be made by others, no one will make a video

We only have the media available posted at the page, sorry. Maybe later, when Batch #1 is delivered and we have time again.



Best regards, Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Peter C. Winkler
YesMiners Customer Support
[email protected]

YesMiners
Friedrichstraße 171
10117 Berlin
Germany


Do you have any questions or want to tell us something? Please reply directly to this e-mail. Thank you!

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Marvin Verbeek [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2016 19:27
An: YesMiners <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: AW: Contact Form

Hi,

The problem is that there is much contrevercie about if you guys are real or not cause the first batch has been
dispatched and there is no youtube or other kind of review about the miners. I'm interested in buying a lot but if you look at my site of perspective i have to have proof that the yesminer really exist and i want so see it working instead of only the video's you made for the website. That's what keeping me from buying. Do you have other proof like videos with the miners in progress?

Greets,

Marvin

Op 31 jan. 2016 om 00:53 heeft YesMiners <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven:

Dear Marvin,

I'm sorry, we don't have a retail store. For legal reasons here in Germany you can purchase and pay your miners only in our online store.



Best regards, Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Peter C. Winkler
YesMiners Customer Support
[email protected]

YesMiners
Friedrichstraße 171
10117 Berlin
Germany


Do you have any questions or want to tell us something? Please reply directly to this e-mail. Thank you!

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: YesMiners [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Januar 2016 19:30
An: kontakt <[email protected]>
Betreff: Contact Form



Name: Marvin
Email: [email protected]
Telephone:

Comment: Hi there i'n interested in the yesminers m20 with upgrade. But is there a way that i can purchase them directly from you. So that i can go to your place to see it in action and the purchase it?

Greets,

Marvin

not sure I'm following this but could be yes miners if a scam is the ones that swiped your account

anyway irregardless before the 'drama' here did deal with xircom (orig) and had no issues...but without a 'moderator' taking the time to jump in on proof (ie his secret question etc from way back say and other info) you probably should just (xircom2) make a new identity and put it all behind you

but the real issue is ..imho.....yesminers being a scam...they likely used your account....

anyway most of here I think (I'm assuming) we will see this all 'wrap up here soon' on this thread as the scammers cover their tracks as 'law enforcement' in various countries etc gets involved.....then say in 2 weeks maybe 'deafening silence' on all fronts ..here/pm's/emails/the web site etc etc etc

its how such scams work

but if this happened to me ...I'd just make a completely new ID tell whom you want to you were orig xircom..but if the moderators won't help you ...I'm afraid the bitcointalk has run off with the yes miner scammers (or my theory)...not sure can you change your name on an account like xircom2? or do you have to start over...I think you may have to start over?

but that is my view/and what I'd do .just move on from both ..yes miner loss and pm xircom name loss

anyway keep in touch

Searing

So you're Xircom huh? you lost your account on the 23rd yes? and after that you signed up for Xircom2 on the 24th.

So, do you claim all posts on here as Xircom? Therefore you are Shilling for YM? and being the Shitlord who thinks unfavourably to any hobbyists miners and bitcoin enthusiasts because you invested 10s of thousands into hardware?

Or are you going to say "No that was Beliza who did that!"?

It dosent matter what you think as long as I can proof that im the owner of Xircom and has always been Xircom. Why dodnt you just look back and see the posts from other members who knows me privately… they know me and my identity. Why the hell are you not just looking at my posts in ex. Selling mining gear or my talk about breakoutboards or reviews of SP20 or even pics of my SP20 farm. You just so not want to acknowledge that I'm am who I claim to be

Of course I don't know what you sent, that's why I asked. So you don't have a known address and can't recover the account. That doesn't make everybody else guilty.

Why do you think "they" got your e-mail? Your password was changed, not reset via e-mail. Maybe you got keylogged, or brute forced, or perhaps you're just making up this whole conspiracy.

https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php


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