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Rent_a_Ray

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Quote from: a_cat_named_joe on February 15, 2015, 12:50:43 PM

Just saw the news about BTER. Seems I took a hit. I hope not too many others were affected. We were warned. Here's the latest on what BTER have to say on their website :-

7170 BTC got stolen from our cold wallet in this transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/f5b0363f03e1ed8bb812c135361ea93590c831ce9f13a3750be1b93575baccc6

720 BTC bounty for chasing it back.

All wallets have been shut down and withdrawals of the unaffected coins will be arranged later.

BTER.com
Email:[email protected]
Phone:400-0070-955
QQ: 4000070955

Question 1: If it's a cold wallet, how can the coins be stolen?

Question 2: Are we fated in that just as we get to the top of a coin vote poll, the exchange closes down!? We were at least 8th out of 256 and rising faster than all the other coins on BTER.

Q1: Inside job. If you have the private key everything is possible. Cold storage isn't a solution. Thief can import the key --> the wallet is hot.
Different scenario: Bruteforcing with vanitygen, high calculation power and a lot of luck. (watch my signature - It took ~10 Minutes with an old AMD card.)

There are some webpages with thousands of random-generated keypairs - If a key matches with an existing key (let's say the thief is monitoring all accounts >1000 BTC against his database) he would be the winner. And the next question could be: Is "thief" the right term then? (I don't know how key generation in Bitcoin core works, but if it works with a system time randomizer, you could try to generate addresses with a manipulated system time. But that's only a thought.)

A "good" key generation could be: Mouse moving + personal message + systime + actual CPU temperature + ID of the third process in your taskmanager + hash of the current block.

Had too much beer today.

Cheers,
Ray

podizzle

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Quote from: uki on February 16, 2015, 06:51:55 AM

Quote from: kiklo on February 15, 2015, 06:19:06 PM

Quote from: a_cat_named_joe on February 15, 2015, 12:50:43 PM

Question 2: Are we fated in that just as we get to the top of a coin vote poll, the exchange closes down!? We were at least 8th out of 256 and rising faster than all the other coins on BTER.

Best Reason in the world to be on Multiple Exchanges, as you never know when one will implode.
Also a reason to limit the amount of coins on an exchange to only a small amount at any given time.
Strange how the exchanges with alot of chinese exposure are getting zapped at the moment ,
crypto-trade and now bter both offline.

No Matter, ZEIT marches on ,
For all that have a Bleutrade account , please submit a support ticket asking them to add zeitcoin.
For all going into Zeit voting withdrawal ,
No Worries, https://hitbtc.com/vote
Free Voting, don't even need to sign in, they just limit 1 vote per ip address.

Cool

I would add C-cex to the list of the exchanges people may vote.
https://c-cex.com/?id=vote
I voted right after my suggestion of adding ZEIT to the list of the coins to vote was accepted, and for now we have altogether 2 votes (Vavarin?). Anyway, we need like 200+ votes and I believe we will be able to collect them. The more exchanges the coin is available, the bigger the community and harder that problems of one exchange may corner the coin - see Cryptsy, BTER, any other exchange.

c-cex is unprofessional in my experience. had coins locked up there for weeks while nobody responded to my support requests. sounds familiar? limited experience with bleu but it was good in my few trades.

FWBlack

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Netagio, UK based Bitcoin money exchange closing Bitcoin portion of business. https://www.netagio.com/connect/press/netagio-restructure-to-launch-wealth-storage-business-and-close-bitcoin-exchange. I don't think they had been around long, but they had put effort in to passing financial industry auditing standards, etc.

uki

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Quote from: kiklo on February 15, 2015, 06:19:06 PM

Quote from: a_cat_named_joe on February 15, 2015, 12:50:43 PM

Question 2: Are we fated in that just as we get to the top of a coin vote poll, the exchange closes down!? We were at least 8th out of 256 and rising faster than all the other coins on BTER.

Best Reason in the world to be on Multiple Exchanges, as you never know when one will implode.
Also a reason to limit the amount of coins on an exchange to only a small amount at any given time.
Strange how the exchanges with alot of chinese exposure are getting zapped at the moment ,
crypto-trade and now bter both offline.

No Matter, ZEIT marches on ,
For all that have a Bleutrade account , please submit a support ticket asking them to add zeitcoin.
For all going into Zeit voting withdrawal ,
No Worries, https://hitbtc.com/vote
Free Voting, don't even need to sign in, they just limit 1 vote per ip address.

Cool

I would add C-cex to the list of the exchanges people may vote.
https://c-cex.com/?id=vote
I voted right after my suggestion of adding ZEIT to the list of the coins to vote was accepted, and for now we have altogether 2 votes (Vavarin?). Anyway, we need like 200+ votes and I believe we will be able to collect them. The more exchanges the coin is available, the bigger the community and harder that problems of one exchange may corner the coin - see Cryptsy, BTER, any other exchange.

Youghoor

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Quote from: podizzle on February 16, 2015, 12:39:04 AM

well it appears hitbtc may have been hacked as well. withdrawals are disabled.

i like the idea of a ZEIT/XMR market on poloniex. always good to have goals other than just a higher market cap imo.

Alternative are always the best in that case.

podizzle

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well it appears hitbtc may have been hacked as well. withdrawals are disabled.

i like the idea of a ZEIT/XMR market on poloniex. always good to have goals other than just a higher market cap imo.

Varvarin

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Quote from: kiklo on February 15, 2015, 06:19:06 PM

.. ZEIT marches on ,.. Cool

While there was panic on Poloniex with BTC rushing up, Zeit was just there .. doing it's thing .. then 100 ltc came on buy wall Wink

a_cat_named_joe

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Quote from: kiklo on February 15, 2015, 05:56:14 PM

Quote from: a_cat_named_joe on February 15, 2015, 05:02:30 PM

Don't rub it in! Does anyone have a screenshot of the BTER vote - old, or new? I have an idea.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/daxw12ifcf21wey/Coin%20Voting%20-%20Bter.com%20.zip?dl=0

Unzip it and then double click on
Coin Voting - Bter.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform.htm

It will pull the graphics up from the other folder and should look normal.

Cool

That was fast!!! I extracted all the information that I needed and it was all smack bang up to date. Thanks. I'm amazed at the ability that our community possesses. I bet that there are lots out there who don't know what's going on with BTER. The more that know what has happened the better - so that we can somehow act together to stop this sort of thing happening in the future. An altcoin council perhaps?

kiklo

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Quote from: a_cat_named_joe on February 15, 2015, 12:50:43 PM

Question 2: Are we fated in that just as we get to the top of a coin vote poll, the exchange closes down!? We were at least 8th out of 256 and rising faster than all the other coins on BTER.

Best Reason in the world to be on Multiple Exchanges, as you never know when one will implode.
Also a reason to limit the amount of coins on an exchange to only a small amount at any given time.
Strange how the exchanges with alot of chinese exposure are getting zapped at the moment ,
crypto-trade and now bter both offline.

No Matter, ZEIT marches on ,
For all that have a Bleutrade account , please submit a support ticket asking them to add zeitcoin.
For all going into Zeit voting withdrawal ,
No Worries, https://hitbtc.com/vote
Free Voting, don't even need to sign in, they just limit 1 vote per ip address.

Cool

kiklo

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Quote from: a_cat_named_joe on February 15, 2015, 05:02:30 PM

Don't rub it in! Does anyone have a screenshot of the BTER vote - old, or new? I have an idea.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/daxw12ifcf21wey/Coin%20Voting%20-%20Bter.com%20.zip?dl=0

Unzip it and then double click on
Coin Voting - Bter.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform.htm
It will pull the graphics up from the other folder and should look normal.

Cool

a_cat_named_joe

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Quote from: uki on February 15, 2015, 04:49:49 PM

... as BTC was slowly setting the ground for a rebound.

Don't rub it in! Does anyone have a screenshot of the BTER vote - old, or new? I have an idea.

uki

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Quote from: a_cat_named_joe on February 15, 2015, 04:27:28 PM

Quote from: uki on February 15, 2015, 04:20:31 PM

well BTER news are really disgusting:
7170 BTC stolen - https://bter.com/

I've just seen this Cointelegraph report on the BTER hack:- http://cointelegraph.com/news/113494/bter-gets-hacked-for-175-million-in-bitcoin Some speculation that it was an inside job. Second time it has happened. The cold wallet thing was picked up upon.

You mean like coinex.pw - known too well to all these who are with ZEIT from the beginning?
Personally, it wouldn't surprise me at all. Also timing of such a news is more than appropriate, as BTC was slowly setting the ground for a rebound.

a_cat_named_joe

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Quote from: uki on February 15, 2015, 04:20:31 PM

well BTER news are really disgusting:
7170 BTC stolen - https://bter.com/

I've just seen this Cointelegraph report on the BTER hack:- http://cointelegraph.com/news/113494/bter-gets-hacked-for-175-million-in-bitcoin Some speculation that it was an inside job. Second time it has happened. The cold wallet thing was picked up upon.

LionOfNarnia

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Quote from: LionOfNarnia on February 15, 2015, 01:57:00 PM

Server Address - 87.112.161.175

I suggest we stick to the same format as last week i.e. a general chit-chat & 'get to know each other' session & only start the 'serious' Knight-work after the application window closes, or the maximum of 15 Knights are confirmed - just to be fair to any late-comers Wink

I hope that at least some of those who missed the first session will be able to join in with this one.

@Lion,
Might want to post where to download the team software, and a few simple instructions how to connect.

Thanks.

Cool

http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads

Install, run, Menu > 'Connections' > 'Connect' > enter IP & PW, done

Though running the setup wizard - Menu > Settings > Setup wizard - is probably a good idea.

uki

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well BTER news are really disgusting:
7170 BTC stolen - https://bter.com/

LionOfNarnia

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Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged

Server Address - 87.112.161.175

NOTE - This is an hour earlier than I posted yesterday.

The server is actually online now, but I won't be active until the stated time. I think it's my ISP that's preventing a static IP being held but no biggie, really.

I suggest we stick to the same format as last week i.e. a general chit-chat & 'get to know each other' session & only start the 'serious' Knight-work after the application window closes, or the maximum of 15 Knights are confirmed - just to be fair to any late-comers Wink

I hope that at least some of those who missed the first session will be able to join in with this one.

stevegreer

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Quote from: jwinterm on February 15, 2015, 12:48:11 PM

Apparently they haven't been bugged about ZEIT enough to try and load up their wallet and check though, if you look at the status here: https://cryptorush.in/status_old

Yeah I think our trust of CR was obliterated and it is going to take a lot to earn it back.

Quote from: jwinterm on February 15, 2015, 12:48:11 PM

It says the database balance for ZEIT was nearly 2B coins tho Shocked

That was a lot of Zeit! Wow!

Quote from: gregofdoom on February 15, 2015, 12:51:35 PM

I am very curious if they will look the same as with our friends from MINTCoin Wink

We can hope! I'm saving up as many Doge as I can to trade in for Zeit on our 1 year anniversary!

gregofdoom

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Quote from: stevegreer on February 15, 2015, 11:45:49 AM

Less than two more weeks until our 1st birthday! Cool

I am very curious if they will look the same as with our friends from MINTCoin Wink

a_cat_named_joe

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Just saw the news about BTER. Seems I took a hit. I hope not too many others were affected. We were warned. Here's the latest on what BTER have to say on their website :-

7170 BTC got stolen from our cold wallet in this transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/f5b0363f03e1ed8bb812c135361ea93590c831ce9f13a3750be1b93575baccc6

720 BTC bounty for chasing it back.

All wallets have been shut down and withdrawals of the unaffected coins will be arranged later.

BTER.com
Email:[email protected]
Phone:400-0070-955
QQ: 4000070955

Question 1: If it's a cold wallet, how can the coins be stolen?

Question 2: Are we fated in that just as we get to the top of a coin vote poll, the exchange closes down!? We were at least 8th out of 256 and rising faster than all the other coins on BTER.

jwinterm

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Quote from: stevegreer on February 15, 2015, 12:23:29 PM

Quote from: jwinterm on February 15, 2015, 11:54:27 AM

I think you mean http://cryptorush.in , which is actually back online under new ownership, and attempting to pay back the losses incurred under previous owners.

Yep, that's the place. Thanks! Where are you getting the information from that they are trying to recoup the losses from the previous owners? I personally didn't lose anything with them, but I know there are several people who lost some Zeit who I am sure would be happy to get them back.

The guys who run/own it now are always in #cryptorush on freenode: KingDragon, X3n0X, and JCJr222. They have also put some info up on the website about how they intend to pay people back (Cryptorush bonds). I think Zeit wallet was drained, so if they had a ZEIT balance, they will probably just get the Cryptorush bonds if they sign up on new website.

Apparently they haven't been bugged about ZEIT enough to try and load up their wallet and check though, if you look at the status here: https://cryptorush.in/status_old

It says the database balance for ZEIT was nearly 2B coins tho Shocked

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