Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 548. (Read 1009334 times)

Wooo scary
I kind of like the style but it feels dangerous.
I still like the boring grey disk. But then again i also have a bit of a grey mindset. (better boring and stable than ....)

When enough ideas start rolling around. I'm just a developer, I can't do everything on my own. The community itself needs to come together on ideas. I'll gladly help put them together, but the community needs to band together to make it all happen.

I love that. When do we start?

I think you misunderstand TZM. TZM itself is a profit motive. They accept donations. Both TZM and Venus are for-profit companies, and both are doing nothing in their own ideas. What they're doing is spreading the idea, and making money doing it. They themselves will never actually move into what they say they will. That is the problem with TZM.

Also, saying TZM ideals are not for profit is incorrect to. In order for it to be completely non-profit, everyone would have to give everything away for free, not barter. In the end people will barter for profit. There is no way to remove the profit motive. The idea is to move into that kind of system, which TZM itself is failing to do. Their ideals will just make profit in a different sense.

In the end, TZM is nothing more than a news channel that has actual real details people need to know. They'll never do more than that. What we need to do is be more than that. We have to bring attention the proper way, and prove we're willing to work towards it. What Zeitcoin itself needs to become in a alt coin that is used for good. Donations to science, donations to charities or fund raising, etc. That's the kind of stuff we should be doing.

not yet

We need something like the ,  a Doge  type sponsorship for the Jamaican bob team,  ( resourced based ) maybe  a ZEITCOIN movement
foundation ( charity) to be set up ( sorry don't have the were with all to do it myself )

But am sure that with a community as big as ours there should be someone with the legal knowledge to set it up.   the movement is still very young but , and l have been here since the launch, and have read most of the  300 + pages most of which
are about trying to get the price higher  or (WHAT is P O S  ) instead  of coming up with creative ways of the movement giving to the charity's  that support the resourced based economy, could we contact the TVP for some help and support in finding a cause worth supporting.

There are a lot of good projects out there we need to focus on at leased one or two for now so we can improve the global awareness of the ZEITCOIN movement, a water aid charity could be a good start , but the community as to be as one with which ever one we choose.   

If it can be done at a local level, with small project , it would be a start .

Time to stop speculating and time to get on with   Moving Forward.


Edit I know most have overheads to cover but , but once that is covered any small amount leftover no matter how small could be put to  good use

ok forgot to set the exchanges

ZEIT is there already!

you misunderstand TZM purpose, we are not here to build a specific model, we are here to spread awareness and advocate a new train of thought that will lead eventually to a public discussion on the matter from the leaders of our current world. You can do things on your own in line with TZM, but at your own risk of focus, time and money. TZM cannot compel people towards specific focuses, they are too many, there is too much complexity to know exactly how to utilize people towards specific action.

I have plans that will lead us to direct action like so many of you want, but such initiatives take time. Im certainly not the only one pushing for direct action.

http://whatmine.com/ is a coinwarz clone. Maybe Zeit can also be listed there?

At the moment it can be traded into a different currency that can buy things. it took over 4 years for bitcoin to become like that. Who is to say 6 months from now Zeitcoin can be used to buy things? In 2 1/2 months DOGE could. If it starts to move in that direction where it can be financially acceptable at places (Which requires a strong community), then it could very well begin to pave the way

Exactly, TZM is great at pointing out the problems, and WHY they happen. But when it comes to solutions or the way forward, that's something that needs improvement.

Unfortunately, Zeitcoin is only a financial component of TZM. But money is useless if you don't have things you can buy with it, like blood without blood vessels, or motor oil without an engine.

Guys, someone do a nice write-up about why to keep ZeitCoin (I gotta head to bed) and get us WHITELISTED.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5850795

See, that's my concern with TZM. They denied us because we don't fit their plans, but at least we're attempting to move away towards a centralized system. It may not be the end goal, but we're making something called progress, which is something TZM fails to do. This was why Zeitcoin became more of it's own movement.

When you look at TZM, they don't accept anything that isn't their own ideas, and they don't want progress, they want instant change or nothing, and that's not way the world or the human race work. Their initial concept was a great idea, but they're continuing to decline. Zeitcoin can be used as a real way to help progress into the ideals that TZM. TZM has become nothing more than it's own controlling government, and it's their bartering system or nothing, which ideally, is the same as a centralized currency, because you have to fold to their idea or nothing.

Hopefully Zeitcoin can make a difference. That's why I support it.

Well what exactly are you guys trying to achieve then, specifically, in terms of immediate goals? This is something that I never really hear about. Where are the plans for the techno cities that can be built today, with today's tech, if only they weren't so "expensive" to build for greed-driven, artificial market scarcity reasons? Where are the free 3d printers (and the raw materials needed to make them work) that's supposed to enable me to produce everything under the sun (like iphones and super computers and desktop computers and food) without the need for me to order anything but digital goods and raw materials from amazon? WHERE ARE THE PLANS TO MAKE THESE THINGS POSSIBLE ON A MASSIVE SCALE!!???

All the things Mr. Fresco and Mr. Peter Joseph talk about is just that, talk. They are just preaching ideas and putting out videos, hoping against hope to inspire some rich person in the capitalist society to donate a lot of money to actually kick start a project with a high initial investment requirement. But nothing seems to actually have happened yet as far as I'm able to tell, based on lack of news.

And as far as I can see, no one in ZeitCoin has yet contributed any value added to TZM yet along these lines. This community is entirely "financial" oriented, by it's very core nature.

It is for the reason of lack of evidence that the proposed "solutions" are actually workable, as well as doubts about some of the assertions they make (for example, their claim that governments will become obsolete.....in spite of the fact that human beings are TRIBAL at our very deepest being and will always trend toward some form of government), that I remain a skeptic about TZM.

as soon as cavirtex can update my balance i will setup a wall on cryptsy

Mint still at 10+, went up to 60.

Just because people are dumb doesn't mean a coin is dead.

Trolls gonna troll.

Edit: For the Record: Mint sat below 5 for a while, and was at 7 peak for weeks. All of a sudden it shot up to 60. Even coins like Penguin and Karma shot up to 10. If Zeit, which people are actually attempting to make something of it, can't hit 10, then the world might as well end now from human stupidity.

Ok, go and pump it.

so?

we can still push up with LTC values

They REMOVED BTC market, you moron.