Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 703. (Read 1009334 times)
March 07, 2014, 02:44:50 AM
guys, you could mine most profitable coin and then buy zeitcoin, rather than mining zeitcoin at such low prices.
March 07, 2014, 02:26:29 AM
Still didn't receive my 50k ZEITCOIN although I am believer, supporter and miner of this coin from the beginning and I've seen all the Zeitgeist movies Sad
I like and follow Zeitcoin in FB and Twitter and I am in the google Giveaway doc as @MiNFoXa
Msvr3k6QcBwcuCAJYqRsFR6HdLxZEQM8G3
I like and follow Zeitcoin in FB and Twitter and I am in the google Giveaway doc as @MiNFoXa
Msvr3k6QcBwcuCAJYqRsFR6HdLxZEQM8G3
March 07, 2014, 02:26:07 AM
Too bad the Canada wing of TZM couldn't see this, I think they need every opportunity to spread the message.
I am in Canada, TZM is defined by its most active and vocal members, you can bet im gona shake things up in a few months with what i have in store for TZM, Zeitcoin and the whole world.
Satoshi is not the only one who has revolutionary ideas and the will to implement it.
March 07, 2014, 02:25:32 AM
wtb 2mil zeit
offering 0,045btc from cryptsy to cryptsy preferred
or smaller amounts with the same rate
offering 0,045btc from cryptsy to cryptsy preferred
or smaller amounts with the same rate
March 07, 2014, 02:21:34 AM
22 Hours until Halving 
24.125 hour to be exact
( ( 2880 * 7 ) - block height ) / 60 / 2
March 07, 2014, 02:19:59 AM
22 Hours until Halving
March 07, 2014, 02:19:07 AM
wow, its just falling, bought at 3. 
i bought at 8 and im not worried
March 07, 2014, 02:14:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNgeKy1kPZ8
BTW, those who quoted me, please correct the supply rate reduction factor
BTW, those who quoted me, please correct the supply rate reduction factor
Quote
the current rate of ZEIT per day is 2880 * 650000 = 1872000000
--PoS included from this point, assuming every coin is left to age and generate PoS blocks--
after week six it will be 17126167 ZEIT/day
thats a 1093 reduction in supply growth, even if you look at it from week six, it will still be a factor of 3.4
expect bigger factors when considering not all coins will be 100% PoSing
--PoS included from this point, assuming every coin is left to age and generate PoS blocks--
after week six it will be 17126167 ZEIT/day
thats a 1093 reduction in supply growth, even if you look at it from week six, it will still be a factor of 3.4
expect bigger factors when considering not all coins will be 100% PoSing
March 07, 2014, 02:12:51 AM
if someone wants to buy 100 cryptsy votes with zeit i can do it for 800k zeit anytime 
(just 1 now)
actually 10votes for 80k also is fine
(just 1 now)
actually 10votes for 80k also is fine
still willing to do this
March 07, 2014, 02:12:41 AM
I wait for my 50k coins, where i can get?
Yeah, me too. March 07, 2014, 02:12:00 AM
wow, its just falling, bought at 3.
March 07, 2014, 01:46:58 AM
can or does anyone on here know exactly what determines a coins value? what is it that makes the value go up or down? or does no one actually know? I have an idea but im baffled because it seems values are easily manipulated, even one person alone is able to spike or completely flat line a coins value if they have enough resources at their disposal. Iv done a search online for answers but found nothing.
Supply and demand.
Simple as that, sure there will be short term anomalies but in the long run it's all about supply and demand. This is what makes coins like zeit with a 99 billion coin float almost guaranteed to be stuck in low valuations. It takes an enormous demand to overcome that kind of supply.
unlike DOGE, the supply will come in much slower
in less then 3 months 57% of DOGE's have been mined
it will take ~10+ years for ZEIT to get to 57%
for the time being you can expect 25%-32% during this year
yeah but it' still fast mining.. 12.75% in week one alone.. then 25% by end of week 6.. after that it gets to 31.25% in a year and 6 weeks.. then it only REALLY slows down after that.
hell, there's hardly any reason to mine after week 2 let alone the full 6 weeks lol.
by your logic people should have given up on DOGE after the first month, in 1.13 months it was at 25% of supply mined
its only fast for the first 6 weeks, then it drops dramatically, value will shoot up
how dramatically? lets put it into perspective
the current rate of ZEIT per day is 2880 * 650000 = 1872000000
after week six it will be 2880
thats a 650000 reduction in supply growth, even if you look at it from week six, its still be a factor of 20312
your not dealing with your usual coin here, unless the dev deviates from what i expect and i fail in my own projects that will come of use to this coin
I could take over programming if that needed be, I want a cryptocoin for my purpose, which is directly inline with TZM.
also do not underestimate the power of a singular individual, provided the dev is passionate and purpose driven, we could have a coin that leads the way to innovation
its too early to tell if the dev is such, but given my support, i dont think there is any other option, progress or fork.
technically, its not a 1 dev operation, open source means at any point anyone can contribute
Oh crap sorry didn't mean to interrupt your debate with my post >_<
March 07, 2014, 01:44:41 AM
As long as the coin doesnt do a superman move to like 50 satoshi I wont and dont sell POS coins. Selling before stake almost always a bad play.
March 07, 2014, 01:44:30 AM
Does this mean that we won't get supported by the official TZM, why are they not open minded, will they change their mind?
From the ANN on the 1st page:
Hey,
Sorry to say, the global coordinators do not like the idea of alternative currencies - they believe it is against the message of the movement and are also concerned about fraud. I can really see the idea behind getting alternative currencies going, especially from a 'transition' standpoint, but unfortunately because we are hosting the international event, they have the final say. If you want to come to ZDay or one of the after parties in order to debate its merits with people in the movement you are welcome to do that. The movement has definitely become more strict in terms of drawing lines around what can be labelled officially 'Zeitgeist' and what cannot.
Sorry again
From the ANN on the 1st page:
Hey,
Sorry to say, the global coordinators do not like the idea of alternative currencies - they believe it is against the message of the movement and are also concerned about fraud. I can really see the idea behind getting alternative currencies going, especially from a 'transition' standpoint, but unfortunately because we are hosting the international event, they have the final say. If you want to come to ZDay or one of the after parties in order to debate its merits with people in the movement you are welcome to do that. The movement has definitely become more strict in terms of drawing lines around what can be labelled officially 'Zeitgeist' and what cannot.
Sorry again
Nope, thats one group! I personally Have made contact with groups within the UK, TZM doesnt have any leaders the members may choose to follow us or not but if we get enough support from the bottom then they will force the hand of these "topmen" making decisions on behalf of thousands. Dont worry there is support with in TZM for zeitcoin we just need more
Just my 2 ZEITs here...
I think the greatest thing TZM have achieved is to raise awareness on how broken our financial systems are. They have brought a certain amount of enlightenment to many who feel trapped in an oppressive, controlling regime that dominates governments and countries alike. But if asked if the Zeitgeist movement has been successful in making real change to the world? I have to say no.
Now this may be an uncomfortable parallel, but this compares closely to the achievements of Karl Marx. I know, I know, I can feel the discomfort radiating through your screen. But look at it from an objective point of view; Marx's most important work was Das Kapital, a stern and uncompromising appraisal of the capitalist system as he knew it that stirred up anger and resentment at its criticism. Only when pressed into coming up with an alternative did he invent what we now call Socialism, much like how the Zeitgeist movement has embraced Jacque Fresco's ideas for a resource-based economy.
It might be completely unworkable, but it's function has been to offer a rebuttal to those who ask "Yeah, very good but what's the alternative? Could you think of something better?" Marx painted a picture of an idealistic future, much like the cities that Fresco has designed. Does that take away from the important message? Well maybe a little if you focus on the 'solutions', but the reasons behind forming those solutions are key to the message "This shit's got to go"
For that reason, ZEIT coin is realising the aims of TZM - to bring awareness of the situation we face. Banking is fucked, the money system is broken. Are cryptocurrencies part of the solution? Possibly not, but the more people who understand the mire we find ourselves in, the more power we have to build a better future.
Too bad the Canada wing of TZM couldn't see this, I think they need every opportunity to spread the message.
March 07, 2014, 01:33:55 AM
can or does anyone on here know exactly what determines a coins value? what is it that makes the value go up or down? or does no one actually know? I have an idea but im baffled because it seems values are easily manipulated, even one person alone is able to spike or completely flat line a coins value if they have enough resources at their disposal. Iv done a search online for answers but found nothing.
Supply and demand.
Simple as that, sure there will be short term anomalies but in the long run it's all about supply and demand. This is what makes coins like zeit with a 99 billion coin float almost guaranteed to be stuck in low valuations. It takes an enormous demand to overcome that kind of supply.
unlike DOGE, the supply will come in much slower
in less then 3 months 57% of DOGE's have been mined
it will take ~10+ years for ZEIT to get to 57%
for the time being you can expect 25%-32% during this year
yeah but it' still fast mining.. 12.75% in week one alone.. then 25% by end of week 6.. after that it gets to 31.25% in a year and 6 weeks.. then it only REALLY slows down after that.
hell, there's hardly any reason to mine after week 2 let alone the full 6 weeks lol.
by your logic people should have given up on DOGE after the first month, in 1.13 months it was at 25% of supply mined
its only fast for the first 6 weeks, then it drops dramatically, value will shoot up
how dramatically? lets put it into perspective
the current rate of ZEIT per day is 2880 * 650000 = 1872000000
after week six it will be 2880
thats a 650000 reduction in supply growth, even if you look at it from week six, its still be a factor of 20312
your not dealing with your usual coin here, unless the dev deviates from what i expect and i fail in my own projects that will come of use to this coin
I could take over programming if that needed be, I want a cryptocoin for my purpose, which is directly inline with TZM.
also do not underestimate the power of a singular individual, provided the dev is passionate and purpose driven, we could have a coin that leads the way to innovation
its too early to tell if the dev is such, but given my support, i dont think there is any other option, progress or fork.
technically, its not a 1 dev operation, open source means at any point anyone can contribute
March 07, 2014, 01:24:49 AM
can or does anyone on here know exactly what determines a coins value? what is it that makes the value go up or down? or does no one actually know? I have an idea but im baffled because it seems values are easily manipulated, even one person alone is able to spike or completely flat line a coins value if they have enough resources at their disposal. Iv done a search online for answers but found nothing.
Supply and demand.
Simple as that, sure there will be short term anomalies but in the long run it's all about supply and demand. This is what makes coins like zeit with a 99 billion coin float almost guaranteed to be stuck in low valuations. It takes an enormous demand to overcome that kind of supply.
unlike DOGE, the supply will come in much slower
in less then 3 months 57% of DOGE's have been mined
it will take ~10+ years for ZEIT to get to 57%
for the time being you can expect 25%-32% during this year
yeah but it' still fast mining.. 12.75% in week one alone.. then 25% by end of week 6.. after that it gets to 31.25% in a year and 6 weeks.. then it only REALLY slows down after that.
hell, there's hardly any reason to mine after week 2 let alone the full 6 weeks lol.
by your logic people should have given up on DOGE after the first month, in 1.13 months it was at 25% of supply mined
its only fast for the first 6 weeks, then it drops dramatically, value will shoot up
how dramatically? lets put it into perspective
the current rate of ZEIT per day is 2880 * 650000 = 1872000000
after week six it will be 2880
thats a 650000 reduction in supply growth, even if you look at it from week six, its still be a factor of 20312
your not dealing with your usual coin here, unless the dev deviates from what i expect and i fail in my own projects that will come of use to this coin
March 07, 2014, 01:20:16 AM
can or does anyone on here know exactly what determines a coins value? what is it that makes the value go up or down? or does no one actually know? I have an idea but im baffled because it seems values are easily manipulated, even one person alone is able to spike or completely flat line a coins value if they have enough resources at their disposal. Iv done a search online for answers but found nothing.
Supply and demand.
Simple as that, sure there will be short term anomalies but in the long run it's all about supply and demand. This is what makes coins like zeit with a 99 billion coin float almost guaranteed to be stuck in low valuations. It takes an enormous demand to overcome that kind of supply.
unlike DOGE, the supply will come in much slower
in less then 3 months 57% of DOGE's have been mined
it will take ~10+ years for ZEIT to get to 57%
for the time being you can expect 25%-32% during this year
yeah but it' still fast mining.. 12.75% in week one alone.. then 25% by end of week 6.. after that it gets to 31.25% in a year and 6 weeks.. then it only REALLY slows down after that.
hell, there's hardly any reason to mine after week 2 let alone the full 6 weeks lol.
by your logic people should have given up on DOGE after the first month, in 1.13 months it was at 25% of supply mined
its only fast for the first 6 weeks, then it drops dramatically, value will shoot up
how dramatically? lets put it into perspective
the current rate of ZEIT per day is 2880 * 650000 = 1872000000
--PoS included from this point, assuming every coin is left to age and generate PoS blocks--
after week six it will be 17126167 ZEIT/day
thats a 1093 reduction in supply growth, even if you look at it from week six, it will still be a factor of 3.4
expect bigger factors when considering not all coins will be 100% PoSing
your not dealing with your usual coin here, unless the dev deviates from what i expect and i fail in my own projects that will come of use to this coin
March 07, 2014, 01:12:27 AM
can or does anyone on here know exactly what determines a coins value? what is it that makes the value go up or down? or does no one actually know? I have an idea but im baffled because it seems values are easily manipulated, even one person alone is able to spike or completely flat line a coins value if they have enough resources at their disposal. Iv done a search online for answers but found nothing.
Supply and demand.
Simple as that, sure there will be short term anomalies but in the long run it's all about supply and demand. This is what makes coins like zeit with a 99 billion coin float almost guaranteed to be stuck in low valuations. It takes an enormous demand to overcome that kind of supply.
unlike DOGE, the supply will come in much slower
in less then 3 months 57% of DOGE's have been mined
it will take ~10+ years for ZEIT to get to 57%
for the time being you can expect 25%-32% during this year
yeah but it' still fast mining.. 12.75% in week one alone.. then 25% by end of week 6.. after that it gets to 31.25% in a year and 6 weeks.. then it only REALLY slows down after that.
hell, there's hardly any reason to mine after week 2 let alone the full 6 weeks lol.
by your logic people should have given up on DOGE after the first month, in 1.13 months it was at 25% of supply mined
its only fast for the first 6 weeks, then it drops dramatically, value will shoot up
how dramatically? lets put it into perspective
the current rate of ZEIT per day is 2880 * 650000 = 1872000000
after week six it will be 2880
thats a 650000 reduction in supply growth, even if you look at it from week six, its still be a factor of 20312
March 07, 2014, 12:52:19 AM
can or does anyone on here know exactly what determines a coins value? what is it that makes the value go up or down? or does no one actually know? I have an idea but im baffled because it seems values are easily manipulated, even one person alone is able to spike or completely flat line a coins value if they have enough resources at their disposal. Iv done a search online for answers but found nothing.
Supply and demand.
Simple as that, sure there will be short term anomalies but in the long run it's all about supply and demand. This is what makes coins like zeit with a 99 billion coin float almost guaranteed to be stuck in low valuations. It takes an enormous demand to overcome that kind of supply.
unlike DOGE, the supply will come in much slower
in less then 3 months 57% of DOGE's have been mined
it will take ~10+ years for ZEIT to get to 57%
for the time being you can expect 25%-32% during this year
yeah but it' still fast mining.. 12.75% in week one alone.. then 25% by end of week 6.. after that it gets to 31.25% in a year and 6 weeks.. then it only REALLY slows down after that.
hell, there's hardly any reason to mine after week 2 let alone the full 6 weeks lol.
by your logic people should have given up on DOGE after the first month, in 1.13 months it was at 25% of supply mined
its only fast for the first 6 weeks, then it drops dramatically, value will shoot up
how dramatically? lets put it into perspective
the current rate of ZEIT per day is 2880 * 650000 = 1872000000
--PoS included from this point, assuming every coin is left to age and generate PoS blocks--
after week six it will be 17126167 ZEIT/day
thats a 1093 reduction in supply growth, even if you look at it from week six, it will still be a factor of 3.4
expect bigger factors when considering not all coins will be 100% PoSing
March 07, 2014, 12:48:17 AM
I would also say that if you can get these for 2 satoshi def go for it
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