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legendary
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And another 12 hour plus withdrawal from Cloudbet:


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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
Today at 02:46:14 AM
   
 #2386
Quote from: Cloudbet on October 26, 2015, 06:07:26 PM
Hi bgerg,

We can only help you if you contact us from the email account associated with your Cloudbet account.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Regards,
Cloudbet

would you tell me  why my withdraw  action  is  still  pending  after 12 hrs ??
normally  it takes  less than  1 hr
legendary
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Another Cloudbet slowpay - (I believe I'm interpreting these posts correctly and) it took them about 10.5 hours to send 0.05 btc = ~ $1.46 USD.

(Good thing it wasn't a really big withdrawal like $4.23 or something like that).


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Re: Cloudbet.com -in sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA

Today at 01:05:42 PM
   
 #2389
Quote from: Kiritsugu on Today at 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: Kiritsugu on Today at 02:48:40 AM
Please check you support emails.  I have had a pending withdraw for 2 hours now, and its only a 0.05 withdraw.  I sent a help ticket in via my account email, so please check your support database and get it resolved if you can Smiley

Thanks!
Update:  After 4+ hours of saying "Pending" under the Wallet Transactions tab, its not said "Sending" for the last hour or so. :/

Update:  After another few hours it finally went through.  Thanks!
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Please grade my 2 bets (1 winner, 1 lost) from 17 October .
Please add contact form to your site, i do not want to give you my full name (email sender) .
Please turn off cloudflare it is very annoying.

3 days left my 2 bets are still pending.

Ive always heard this kind of issue and its not get fixed yet? I never had this one before but everybody reported this got answered by cloudbet, you should too.

0.9 BTC blocked since 17 October (pending winner bet)
0.9 BTC blocked since 20 October (pending winner bet)


0.9 BTC blocked since 17 October (pending winner bet)
0.9 BTC blocked since 20 October (pending winner bet)
1.9 BTC blocked since 22 October (pending winner bet) (Detroit Pistons . Charlotte Hornets NBA preseaseon 16 hours ago)
plus 2 lost bets

Tomorrow I will post a screenshot all my pending bets.

i never had issues here, did u email them?  just be patient this site is defintely no.1 in the community


today happend nothing again with my pending bets , tomorrow will be the 7th day of my 1st pending bet
how to celebrate?
https://i.imgur.com/iIIID3h.png




I sent them an email and got back this template (copy paste) message .

Cloudbet said that "all of your pending bets have now been settled and your account credited accordingly."

But this is not true. 

What to do?


Hi bgerg,

Thanks for getting in touch with us, all of your pending bets have now been settled and your account credited accordingly.

All bets are graded automatically as soon as our system receives official confirmation of the result - this usually happens within a few minutes of the event's conclusion, however occasionally there can be delays in getting results confirmed from time to time.

Please let us know if there is anything else we can help with.

Many thanks,
Penfold Karlsson


My last bet yesterday was graded accordingly, will wait to see how theyll fix the issue about yours

Cloudbet admint logged in 7 hours ago but said nothing again.  (You can check it if you click on cloudbet name)

I have 5 pending bets. 2.4 BTC locked in 3 winner pending bets.

1 winner pending  bet should have been settled 8 days ago.
1 lost pending should have been settled 8 days ago.
1 winner pending should have been settled 5 days ago.
1 lost pending  bet should have been settled  5 days ago.
1 winner pending bet should have been settled 2 days ago.

My NBA preseason pending winner bet from October 22 has been settled yesterday.


I sent another 3 emails .
4 hours ago cloudbet answered :

Hi,

I can't find any bets associated with the email account you are emailing from.

If you have another account can you please contact us from that address.

Please also bear in mind, opening two accounts is against our terms and conditions and I would ask that you let us close one of them if this is the case.

Many thanks,
Penfold Karlsson


My answer: 

YOU HAVE ALL THE BET IDS, I SENT THEM 3 TIMES, SEE BELOW

you can find my pending bets at [email protected] account

you have to add online contact form, i wont send email to you from my registered email because  you do not need to my real name
and i do not want to give my real name to a shady anonymous betting site that has no customer support more than 1 week


Cloudbet had 5 hours to settle my pending bets , but did nothing again.

Cloudbet has no more customer service.

Now i will register at all bookmaker forums (sbr and others) , facebook too and share this issue.


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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
Today at 04:26:04 PM
   
 #2365

The site is constantly down. I get this at least 3-4 times a week and it doesn't just last for a minute or two. It last for 20 min to 1 hour + each time and happens throughout the day.




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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
Today at 04:43:28 PM
   
 #2366

Always error 504 from 2-3 days
is impossible bet on this site now"


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.new;topicseen#new


legendary
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actually they need to implement live support, so we can talk with them online, email is not so efficient and sometimes can be misunderstanding. they didn't respond customers which is bad.

Email can be efficient if the respond time is less than 3 hours , maximum 5 hours and after that it will not be efficient anymore. No one will want to wait for days just for one small complaint. Peeps need to lower their rating as a punishment because of this . This will sure make them to increase their support service more
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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
October 19, 2015, 10:54:40 AM
   

Please grade my 2 bets (1 winner, 1 lost) from 17 October ..."


"bgerg

   
Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
October 20, 2015, 10:47:48 AM   


3 days left my 2 bets are still pending."



"bgerg
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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
Today at 07:55:00 AM
   


0.9 BTC blocked since 17 October (pending winner bet)
0.9 BTC blocked since 20 October (pending winner bet)"






https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.2340


More than 48 hours later and no response in the Cloudbet thread from cs.

Cloudbet just stated that they've increased support and once again they frustrate a player by not responding within a reasonable amount of time.

actually they need to implement live support, so we can talk with them online, email is not so efficient and sometimes can be misunderstanding. they didn't respond customers which is bad.
legendary
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Posters continuing to claim problems at Cloudbet:

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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
October 19, 2015, 10:54:40 AM
   

Please grade my 2 bets (1 winner, 1 lost) from 17 October ..."


"bgerg

   
Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
October 20, 2015, 10:47:48 AM   


3 days left my 2 bets are still pending."



"bgerg
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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
Today at 07:55:00 AM
   


0.9 BTC blocked since 17 October (pending winner bet)
0.9 BTC blocked since 20 October (pending winner bet)"






https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.2340


More than 48 hours later and no response in the Cloudbet thread from cs.

Cloudbet just stated that they've increased support and once again they frustrate a player by not responding within a reasonable amount of time.
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i have yet to try anonibet but isnt there suppose to be a flexible bet assuming that the odd wont change dramatically? so by a little bit of diff, your bet should be able to go through.

You can click accept higher odds. If the odds change in your favor, the bet with be accepted. It will be rejected if the line changes against you.

I cheched the option of changing odds too. But maybe as you said, the line changings are really fast and I couldn't get my bets which I wanted.
legendary
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Posters continuing to claim problems at Cloudbet:

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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
October 19, 2015, 10:54:40 AM
   

Please grade my 2 bets (1 winner, 1 lost) from 17 October ..."


"bgerg

   
Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
October 20, 2015, 10:47:48 AM   


3 days left my 2 bets are still pending."



"bgerg
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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA
Today at 07:55:00 AM
   


0.9 BTC blocked since 17 October (pending winner bet)
0.9 BTC blocked since 20 October (pending winner bet)"






https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.2340


More than 48 hours later and no response in the Cloudbet thread from cs.
legendary
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i have yet to try anonibet but isnt there suppose to be a flexible bet assuming that the odd wont change dramatically? so by a little bit of diff, your bet should be able to go through.

You can click accept higher odds. If the odds change in your favor, the bet with be accepted. It will be rejected if the line changes against you.
legendary
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Update- Betcoinsports allows e-sports betting.


legendary
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i have yet to try anonibet but isnt there suppose to be a flexible bet assuming that the odd wont change dramatically? so by a little bit of diff, your bet should be able to go through.
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I tried to use anonibet last week but I do not prefer to use more. Because I can not play live sport bets easily. When I tried to bet a match in live, everytime the odds was changed and I couldn't bet what I want. The odds were changed or the bets were changed. 
Yeah I know bets and odds must change but this period does not affect the playing.
legendary
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I'll look more in depth and update next week.

Is anyone is playing at BetBTC please post experiences.

@Peeps have you got any time to review betbtc during the previous week? What was your opinion?

Interface is phenomenal and very user friendly. Deposits were credited after 3 confirmations as stated on your site. Withdrawal times on 3 different withdrawals were 2 minutes, 20 minutes and 16 hours.

For the bad, there's very little liquidity even for EPL and NFL. There aren't any NCAA markets. In the NFL a ML is listed but not a spread.

I really like the site and hope that there's more liquidity in the near future.


We strive to improve BetBTC everyday. There are still things that can be better, however your D rank is unfair at the moment especially if we take in consideration that there are many books out there with settlement and withdrawal problems with C and B ranks.

All liquidity is placed by our users. We can't be liable if league x or event y "is listed but not a spread", our action towards this is only improving and promoting betbtc so that more people get in and this empty markets don't exist anymore on the future.

What we should be ranked for is about how our platform is solid and secure, how our deposits are credited in time, how our withdrawals are credited in time, how you can make a trading exactly like you do on betfair (cutting liabilities like no other do), how our events are settled in time, how we haven't lost a satoshi in more than 1 year, how we haven't had any complaint in more than 1 year, etc..

About the lack of leagues just one word, we could deploy all leagues and matches on the platform, we pay for all that already. The point is that we prefer to have only the majors for now so that the liquidity could be more concentrated. Maybe on the future if we think it will be positive we could get them back in (as we already had on the beginning).

Cheers


I agree that "D" is too low. The rating is bumped to "C-". In order for it to go any higher the liquidity will have to grow.

Although, I have no problem personally with withdrawals taking up to 24 hours, the community here is much more stringent. A 15 minute withdrawal time limit has been set and books not meeting that requirement cannot be rated higher than "B".

Fair enough.

We are currently working on the withdrawal times (automatising some manual procedures) and soon we will be able to process 90% of withdrawals on that period. The remaining shouldn't take more than 2/3 hours, will that be a problem?
No problem with that at all.
legendary
Activity: 2014
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BetBTC.co | Sports Betting | Instant Payments
I'll look more in depth and update next week.

Is anyone is playing at BetBTC please post experiences.

@Peeps have you got any time to review betbtc during the previous week? What was your opinion?

Interface is phenomenal and very user friendly. Deposits were credited after 3 confirmations as stated on your site. Withdrawal times on 3 different withdrawals were 2 minutes, 20 minutes and 16 hours.

For the bad, there's very little liquidity even for EPL and NFL. There aren't any NCAA markets. In the NFL a ML is listed but not a spread.

I really like the site and hope that there's more liquidity in the near future.


We strive to improve BetBTC everyday. There are still things that can be better, however your D rank is unfair at the moment especially if we take in consideration that there are many books out there with settlement and withdrawal problems with C and B ranks.

All liquidity is placed by our users. We can't be liable if league x or event y "is listed but not a spread", our action towards this is only improving and promoting betbtc so that more people get in and this empty markets don't exist anymore on the future.

What we should be ranked for is about how our platform is solid and secure, how our deposits are credited in time, how our withdrawals are credited in time, how you can make a trading exactly like you do on betfair (cutting liabilities like no other do), how our events are settled in time, how we haven't lost a satoshi in more than 1 year, how we haven't had any complaint in more than 1 year, etc..

About the lack of leagues just one word, we could deploy all leagues and matches on the platform, we pay for all that already. The point is that we prefer to have only the majors for now so that the liquidity could be more concentrated. Maybe on the future if we think it will be positive we could get them back in (as we already had on the beginning).

Cheers


I agree that "D" is too low. The rating is bumped to "C-". In order for it to go any higher the liquidity will have to grow.

Although, I have no problem personally with withdrawals taking up to 24 hours, the community here is much more stringent. A 15 minute withdrawal time limit has been set and books not meeting that requirement cannot be rated higher than "B".

Fair enough.

We are currently working on the withdrawal times (automatising some manual procedures) and soon we will be able to process 90% of withdrawals on that period. The remaining shouldn't take more than 2/3 hours, will that be a problem?
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
I'll look more in depth and update next week.

Is anyone is playing at BetBTC please post experiences.

@Peeps have you got any time to review betbtc during the previous week? What was your opinion?

Interface is phenomenal and very user friendly. Deposits were credited after 3 confirmations as stated on your site. Withdrawal times on 3 different withdrawals were 2 minutes, 20 minutes and 16 hours.

For the bad, there's very little liquidity even for EPL and NFL. There aren't any NCAA markets. In the NFL a ML is listed but not a spread.

I really like the site and hope that there's more liquidity in the near future.


We strive to improve BetBTC everyday. There are still things that can be better, however your D rank is unfair at the moment especially if we take in consideration that there are many books out there with settlement and withdrawal problems with C and B ranks.

All liquidity is placed by our users. We can't be liable if league x or event y "is listed but not a spread", our action towards this is only improving and promoting betbtc so that more people get in and this empty markets don't exist anymore on the future.

What we should be ranked for is about how our platform is solid and secure, how our deposits are credited in time, how our withdrawals are credited in time, how you can make a trading exactly like you do on betfair (cutting liabilities like no other do), how our events are settled in time, how we haven't lost a satoshi in more than 1 year, how we haven't had any complaint in more than 1 year, etc..

About the lack of leagues just one word, we could deploy all leagues and matches on the platform, we pay for all that already. The point is that we prefer to have only the majors for now so that the liquidity could be more concentrated. Maybe on the future if we think it will be positive we could get them back in (as we already had on the beginning).

Cheers


I agree that "D" is too low. The rating is bumped to "C-". In order for it to go any higher the liquidity will have to grow.

Although, I have no problem personally with withdrawals taking up to 24 hours, the community here is much more stringent. A 15 minute withdrawal time limit has been set and books not meeting that requirement cannot be rated higher than "B". Some exceptions on that limit will be allowed such as large withdrawals, poker transfers and an account being red flagged for review.
legendary
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DirectBet lowered from "C+" to "C"

Player placed two bets on Calgary v Vancouver NHL match on October 8, 2015. One bet was for .04 BTC and another for .2 BTC. The bet for .04 lost and the bet for .2 won.

DirectBet confiscated both bets stating:

Quote
Hi Steve,

Your bet was confiscated because you defrauded our system.

Please note of the following information form our Rules :

https://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml

"
We reserve the right to confiscate wagers when we believe that fraudulent
activity is involved, including but not limited to, hacking attempts, double
spends and odds manipulation. By placing a bet at DirectBet you agree that
in case of any dispute DirectBet decision is final.
"

Best Regards,
--
DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !

DirectBet was asked how the player defrauded the system. DirectBet wouldn't share how the claimed fraudulent activity occurred with peepsplace or the player.

When there have been claims of abuse against other books, the book has always shared information asked of them. This is the first time that a book refused to share information disputing a claim. There is no choice other than downgrading DirectBet.


DirectBet -  feel free to reply if you would like.


What were the 2 bets?




The confiscated winning bet was 0.2 BTC @ 1.41 on Vancouver. The losing bet was 0.04 BTC @ 6.2 on Calgary

I told DirectBet that this thread will never be used to extort or strong arm a book.

The amount is irrelevant. A book should never confiscate your funds. DirectBet has given no reason other than a hack and no proof has been provided.

For the above reasons, not only should the amount wagered be refunded but the winnings should be paid.
legendary
Activity: 2014
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BetBTC.co | Sports Betting | Instant Payments
I'll look more in depth and update next week.

Is anyone is playing at BetBTC please post experiences.

@Peeps have you got any time to review betbtc during the previous week? What was your opinion?

Interface is phenomenal and very user friendly. Deposits were credited after 3 confirmations as stated on your site. Withdrawal times on 3 different withdrawals were 2 minutes, 20 minutes and 16 hours.

For the bad, there's very little liquidity even for EPL and NFL. There aren't any NCAA markets. In the NFL a ML is listed but not a spread.

I really like the site and hope that there's more liquidity in the near future.


We strive to improve BetBTC everyday. There are still things that can be better, however your D rank is unfair at the moment especially if we take in consideration that there are many books out there with settlement and withdrawal problems with C and B ranks.

All liquidity is placed by our users. We can't be liable if league x or event y "is listed but not a spread", our action towards this is only improving and promoting betbtc so that more people get in and this empty markets don't exist anymore on the future.

What we should be ranked for is about how our platform is solid and secure, how our deposits are credited in time, how our withdrawals are credited in time, how you can make a trading exactly like you do on betfair (cutting liabilities like no other do), how our events are settled in time, how we haven't lost a satoshi in more than 1 year, how we haven't had any complaint in more than 1 year, etc..

About the lack of leagues just one word, we could deploy all leagues and matches on the platform, we pay for all that already. The point is that we prefer to have only the majors for now so that the liquidity could be more concentrated. Maybe on the future if we think it will be positive we could get them back in (as we already had on the beginning).

Cheers

legendary
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DirectBet lowered from "C+" to "C"

Player placed two bets on Calgary v Vancouver NHL match on October 8, 2015. One bet was for .04 BTC and another for .2 BTC. The bet for .04 lost and the bet for .2 won.

DirectBet confiscated both bets stating:

Quote
Hi Steve,

Your bet was confiscated because you defrauded our system.

Please note of the following information form our Rules :

https://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml

"
We reserve the right to confiscate wagers when we believe that fraudulent
activity is involved, including but not limited to, hacking attempts, double
spends and odds manipulation. By placing a bet at DirectBet you agree that
in case of any dispute DirectBet decision is final.
"

Best Regards,
--
DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !

DirectBet was asked how the player defrauded the system. DirectBet wouldn't share how the claimed fraudulent activity occurred with peepsplace or the player.

When there have been claims of abuse against other books, the book has always shared information asked of them. This is the first time that a book refused to share information disputing a claim. There is no choice other than downgrading DirectBet.


DirectBet -  feel free to reply if you would like.


What were the 2 bets?



I'll let one of the parties post the exact bets if they want.

DirectBet is claiming they were hacked. Not only were winnings confiscated but the deposit, amount wagered, was confiscated. I assume that this was done as a punishment.

No good book will ever confiscate your deposit.

oh my, this is a very serious problem. this will lose a lot of trust in people willing to bet on directbet, i am definitely one of them which will be a bit scare to bet on directbet. but i hope through time i will resume trust. cuz now a lot of betting site, so to me, shifting my bet to other site is quite ok. but some bet is still better in directbet.
legendary
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I have had another problem with Anonibet, the game between Golden State Warriors and L.A Lakers was called off with about 2 minutes left to play in the 3rd quarter. I had 2 live bets, one for over 51.5 points in third quarter and the other on Warriors to win the game, when the match was called off, 40 points had been scored but there was still 2 minutes 16 to play, however, Anonibet have refused to void my bet and they say its a loss, even though at the time I placed my bet, the period and odds were designed for a 12 minute period. Their live customer support has been telling me nothing can be done and so on, but this is clearly stiffing of players.
Shoot me another PM saying that I can look into this and I'll do it. This one is an easy call.
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