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If you are talking about the Bucks, being overthrown in the first or second round, it's pretty much boils down to experience. But not with the Nets though, Durant and Irving has the experience already and so is Harden. So I'm thinking it will not be very easy to win 4 games against this front line of Brooklyn.

I think it has more to do with play style. The way Giannis relies on his physical attributes instead of his skills, he is very easy to shut down come playoff time. Sure, nobody is going to put their body through the type of abuse that players like Shaq handed out during the regular season, but the playoffs is a different story. Until Giannis learns to add more jumpshooting and passing to his arsenal, I don't see him ever being able to win a championship. With the long term moves the Bucks are making to surround with what I would call less than ideal surroundings, I wouldn't be surprised if Giannis was forced to change teams to have a chance at a title.

You are absolutely correct, Giannis downside is really in the playoffs and I don't understand why the coaching staff is not yet replace when they failed 2 season already. Bucks (Giannis) are hype in the regular season, but things changes in playoffs and they have been so predictable in the past 2 seasons already. I guess Bucks has to follow the Nets, instead of maintaining one star, why not add 1 more or 2.

Been two seasons already, but so far we have seen just minor improvement from Giannis.

He was really check by teams in the playoffs, no more long strides to the basketball for easy layup or a dunk. They made a few chances this season, but it's not enough in my opinion. And now that Nets is the favorite, I'm not seeing the Bucks going to the finals this year. Giannis will be again check and there's no one to take the scoring, maybe Middleton but he is inconsistent.

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 08, 2021, 06:45:02 PM

If you are talking about the Bucks, being overthrown in the first or second round, it's pretty much boils down to experience. But not with the Nets though, Durant and Irving has the experience already and so is Harden. So I'm thinking it will not be very easy to win 4 games against this front line of Brooklyn.

I think it has more to do with play style. The way Giannis relies on his physical attributes instead of his skills, he is very easy to shut down come playoff time. Sure, nobody is going to put their body through the type of abuse that players like Shaq handed out during the regular season, but the playoffs is a different story. Until Giannis learns to add more jumpshooting and passing to his arsenal, I don't see him ever being able to win a championship. With the long term moves the Bucks are making to surround with what I would call less than ideal surroundings, I wouldn't be surprised if Giannis was forced to change teams to have a chance at a title.

You are absolutely correct, Giannis downside is really in the playoffs and I don't understand why the coaching staff is not yet replace when they failed 2 season already. Bucks (Giannis) are hype in the regular season, but things changes in playoffs and they have been so predictable in the past 2 seasons already. I guess Bucks has to follow the Nets, instead of maintaining one star, why not add 1 more or 2.

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 08, 2021, 06:45:02 PM

If you are talking about the Bucks, being overthrown in the first or second round, it's pretty much boils down to experience. But not with the Nets though, Durant and Irving has the experience already and so is Harden. So I'm thinking it will not be very easy to win 4 games against this front line of Brooklyn.

I think it has more to do with play style. The way Giannis relies on his physical attributes instead of his skills, he is very easy to shut down come playoff time. Sure, nobody is going to put their body through the type of abuse that players like Shaq handed out during the regular season, but the playoffs is a different story. Until Giannis learns to add more jumpshooting and passing to his arsenal, I don't see him ever being able to win a championship. With the long term moves the Bucks are making to surround with what I would call less than ideal surroundings, I wouldn't be surprised if Giannis was forced to change teams to have a chance at a title.

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Maybe the next question for Nets is that, can they handle the pressure now as the favorite to win the championship? Or are they going to choke in the playoffs?

Nah, they won't gonna choke. If they lose, they lose and that's because they are actually beatable. Yes they are such a strong team to beat, but a few good teams in the West like the Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers, and Clippers could actually beat the Nets team.
If you notice, Durant has been so fragile after he had a major Injury in GSW. Once he gets injured in post season, any team in the East could actually beat them. Kyrie and Harden's leadership hasn't prove anything yet. This is why I can say the Nets are such a stacked and strong team, but they're actually beatable.

I agree, I don't think the pressure on the them, if there will be some kind of push, it will be on the teams as they have to think of strategy to beat the Brooklyn Nets right now since Durant is playing again. But they are beatable.

On the contrary, I'm seeing the team playing as if they've nothing to lose, just enjoying each game until playoff time. Just like what GSW shows during their own dynasty run

let's see what will happen in the playoffs, sometimes the top teams are overthrown by the 8th seed, or in the second round, although this team is built for the championship, I hope they won't disappoint their fans, teamwork status will show up once they are on the brink of elimination, I hope they face the Lakers in the finals, if they make it, that would be epic.

If you are talking about the Bucks, being overthrown in the first or second round, it's pretty much boils down to experience. But not with the Nets though, Durant and Irving has the experience already and so is Harden. So I'm thinking it will not be very easy to win 4 games against this front line of Brooklyn.

There's too much fire power that you don't know who will take over the game because there's a lot of options for them. Although not very deep, but still with good rotation that Nash and his offensive coach are implementing, it'd be hard pressed to see them lose in the first or second round against a poor team. It will be the biggest upset if teams in the 8th place can upset them in the playoff, and huge disappointment for them.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 08, 2021, 04:04:07 PM

Possibly in the West but I doubt in the East. Nets can handle all teams in their conference in a series match and just imagine how the 8th seeded will survive the stacked Brooklyn Nets.

Both Nets and Sixers have very solid lineups, it's very hard to beat this two teams as they are both chasing to win the title.
It's no doubt from the West the posibilities is really big knowing most of the team their are capable of winning.

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Nets have a clean 7-0 record overall this season against teams sitting currently on 6th to 8th (Heat, Celtics, Knicks, respectively) in the Eastern Conference standings.

Precisely! and with a healthy squad this team will give a very nice and competitve game to whoever will challenged them.

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But who knows, there's another Miami Heat 2020 be like in the making that will surprise all once playoffs come.

No one knows, it happened before then there's no reason that it will happened again.

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Quote from: akirasendo17 on April 08, 2021, 08:58:16 AM

let's see what will happen in the playoffs, sometimes the top teams are overthrown by the 8th seed, or in the second round,

Possibly in the West but I doubt in the East. Nets can handle all teams in their conference in a series match and just imagine how the 8th seeded will survive the stacked Brooklyn Nets.

Nets have a clean 7-0 record overall this season against teams sitting currently on 6th to 8th (Heat, Celtics, Knicks, respectively) in the Eastern Conference standings.

But who knows, there's another Miami Heat 2020 be like in the making that will surprise all once playoffs come.

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Jazz lost to Phoenix Suns with an OT.

Booker made a whopping 35 pts.

Although this won't make a change to the both teams standings, they're still #1 and #2 on the west.

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Quote from: Jating on April 08, 2021, 03:56:09 AM

We can also praise coach Nash for doing a beautiful job so far. I guess being a player himself, he can relate to all of this high caliber players and bring team to a common goal, which is to win the NBA championship this year.

It is still a long way to go, yes they will be the favourite now, but for sure other teams will want to beat team and prove that they are not invincible even with that celebrated line up of 3 superstar + a lot of good caliber players.

Steve Kerr and Nash probably are the most luckiest coaches that ever existed. Steve Kerr took over a team that has curry, klay and draymond (with at the time bogut and iggy and livingston as well) and he had great run with it and added KD eventually to a team that broke the win record as well. Now nash took a team with Irving, Harden, Durant, Blake, Deandre, LMA and Joe harris as well, that is a great team to start your career.

I am not saying they are bad coaches by the way, I think they are good coaches but the fact is that they could have been in place of Silas as well, that dude is playing with Rockets and that team sucks right now, they even had a 20 loss streak, and it's his first head coaching job, he will have a very hard time with future head coaching job potentials. So even if you are good or bad, having a good or bad team matters a lot.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on April 08, 2021, 10:09:03 AM

I know I'm a little late on this, but I am curious what you guys thought of the huge Bulls trade getting Nikola Vucevic and sending of a couple first rounders to the Magic for him. As a life long Bulls fan, I am personally just happy that they are making moves and not trying to sit on players they plan to "develop" for years on end that never end up panning out. I am pumped that we finally have what seems to be a competent management team..finally ( Gar/Pax were a nightmare).

This depends on their performance, and so far, I think Bulls are impoving and Nikola Vucevic seemed fit playing with the Bulls type of play. Actually I'm happy they won their last 2 games, and they are slowly going up to playoff standing. Current rank at number 10, if they'll maintain that, they have a chance to fight for a playoff spot.

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I know I'm a little late on this, but I am curious what you guys thought of the huge Bulls trade getting Nikola Vucevic and sending of a couple first rounders to the Magic for him. As a life long Bulls fan, I am personally just happy that they are making moves and not trying to sit on players they plan to "develop" for years on end that never end up panning out. I am pumped that we finally have what seems to be a competent management team..finally ( Gar/Pax were a nightmare).

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Maybe the next question for Nets is that, can they handle the pressure now as the favorite to win the championship? Or are they going to choke in the playoffs?

Nah, they won't gonna choke. If they lose, they lose and that's because they are actually beatable. Yes they are such a strong team to beat, but a few good teams in the West like the Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers, and Clippers could actually beat the Nets team.
If you notice, Durant has been so fragile after he had a major Injury in GSW. Once he gets injured in post season, any team in the East could actually beat them. Kyrie and Harden's leadership hasn't prove anything yet. This is why I can say the Nets are such a stacked and strong team, but they're actually beatable.

I agree, I don't think the pressure on the them, if there will be some kind of push, it will be on the teams as they have to think of strategy to beat the Brooklyn Nets right now since Durant is playing again. But they are beatable.

On the contrary, I'm seeing the team playing as if they've nothing to lose, just enjoying each game until playoff time. Just like what GSW shows during their own dynasty run

let's see what will happen in the playoffs, sometimes the top teams are overthrown by the 8th seed, or in the second round, although this team is built for the championship, I hope they won't disappoint their fans, teamwork status will show up once they are on the brink of elimination, I hope they face the Lakers in the finals, if they make it, that would be epic.

I dont see any of the current projected 8th seeds taking the nets out in a multigame series. Maybe in one game but for sure not multiple. They are resting guys up right now, come playoff time they are going to wipe teams out. Their team is ridiculously stacked right now. I can see a team out of the west giving them a run but no one in the east.

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Quote from: btc_angela on April 08, 2021, 07:38:35 AM

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Maybe the next question for Nets is that, can they handle the pressure now as the favorite to win the championship? Or are they going to choke in the playoffs?

Nah, they won't gonna choke. If they lose, they lose and that's because they are actually beatable. Yes they are such a strong team to beat, but a few good teams in the West like the Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers, and Clippers could actually beat the Nets team.
If you notice, Durant has been so fragile after he had a major Injury in GSW. Once he gets injured in post season, any team in the East could actually beat them. Kyrie and Harden's leadership hasn't prove anything yet. This is why I can say the Nets are such a stacked and strong team, but they're actually beatable.

I agree, I don't think the pressure on the them, if there will be some kind of push, it will be on the teams as they have to think of strategy to beat the Brooklyn Nets right now since Durant is playing again. But they are beatable.

On the contrary, I'm seeing the team playing as if they've nothing to lose, just enjoying each game until playoff time. Just like what GSW shows during their own dynasty run

let's see what will happen in the playoffs, sometimes the top teams are overthrown by the 8th seed, or in the second round, although this team is built for the championship, I hope they won't disappoint their fans, teamwork status will show up once they are on the brink of elimination, I hope they face the Lakers in the finals, if they make it, that would be epic.

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Not that it matters because the nets if all healthy will crush anyone in the East, but the knicks are really settling in on their annual 2nd half slide. They continue to lose games by one or 2 points. One shot here or there and its a different outcome. They need to start winning these games. Now sitting in the eighth slot things aren't looking hot for them. A shame mitchell went down, with him in the game its a completely different knicks team.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 08, 2021, 04:22:21 AM

Nash team up with Kobe before but they did not win a championship, so probably due to a bad coaching but here we are seeing the Nets with a great chemistry and it will be their key to winning the championship this season.

IIRC, the Lakers' head coaches were changed several times while Nash was there. So they probably had some problems with coaching and chemistry during that period. Also, I guess Kobe and Nash didn't win the championship together because they were already at the end of their careers.

I agree with you, I guess Nash already retired after that, I can't remember anymore but Nash was not anymore in his prime like when he was still playing with the Phoenix Suns, his MVP years. This Nets still has the players which are at their prime, so they'll probably win a championship here, no doubt.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 08, 2021, 04:22:21 AM

Nash team up with Kobe before but they did not win a championship, so probably due to a bad coaching but here we are seeing the Nets with a great chemistry and it will be their key to winning the championship this season.

IIRC, the Lakers' head coaches were changed several times while Nash was there. So they probably had some problems with coaching and chemistry during that period. Also, I guess Kobe and Nash didn't win the championship together because they were already at the end of their careers.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 08, 2021, 06:25:00 AM

Maybe the next question for Nets is that, can they handle the pressure now as the favorite to win the championship? Or are they going to choke in the playoffs?

Nah, they won't gonna choke. If they lose, they lose and that's because they are actually beatable. Yes they are such a strong team to beat, but a few good teams in the West like the Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers, and Clippers could actually beat the Nets team.
If you notice, Durant has been so fragile after he had a major Injury in GSW. Once he gets injured in post season, any team in the East could actually beat them. Kyrie and Harden's leadership hasn't prove anything yet. This is why I can say the Nets are such a stacked and strong team, but they're actually beatable.

I agree, I don't think the pressure on the them, if there will be some kind of push, it will be on the teams as they have to think of strategy to beat the Brooklyn Nets right now since Durant is playing again. But they are beatable.

On the contrary, I'm seeing the team playing as if they've nothing to lose, just enjoying each game until playoff time. Just like what GSW shows during their own dynasty run

As the best team in the NBA now, I think the first time they are playing together will bring pressure.

Look at the NBA futures betting odds, nets is now currently at number 1.

https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/championship-odds

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2021 NBA Championship Futures
Team   Odds
Brooklyn Nets   +250
Los Angeles Lakers   +330
Los Angeles Clippers   +600

It was Lakers then Clippers before but now they are the number 2, they are like the Warriors when the team was still dominant.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 08, 2021, 07:24:32 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on April 08, 2021, 06:25:00 AM

Maybe the next question for Nets is that, can they handle the pressure now as the favorite to win the championship? Or are they going to choke in the playoffs?

Nah, they won't gonna choke. If they lose, they lose and that's because they are actually beatable. Yes they are such a strong team to beat, but a few good teams in the West like the Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers, and Clippers could actually beat the Nets team.
If you notice, Durant has been so fragile after he had a major Injury in GSW. Once he gets injured in post season, any team in the East could actually beat them. Kyrie and Harden's leadership hasn't prove anything yet. This is why I can say the Nets are such a stacked and strong team, but they're actually beatable.

I agree, I don't think the pressure on the them, if there will be some kind of push, it will be on the teams as they have to think of strategy to beat the Brooklyn Nets right now since Durant is playing again. But they are beatable.

On the contrary, I'm seeing the team playing as if they've nothing to lose, just enjoying each game until playoff time. Just like what GSW shows during their own dynasty run

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 08, 2021, 07:24:32 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on April 08, 2021, 06:25:00 AM

Maybe the next question for Nets is that, can they handle the pressure now as the favorite to win the championship? Or are they going to choke in the playoffs?

Nah, they won't gonna choke. If they lose, they lose and that's because they are actually beatable. Yes they are such a strong team to beat, but a few good teams in the West like the Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers, and Clippers could actually beat the Nets team.
If you notice, Durant has been so fragile after he had a major Injury in GSW. Once he gets injured in post season, any team in the East could actually beat them. Kyrie and Harden's leadership hasn't prove anything yet. This is why I can say the Nets are such a stacked and strong team, but they're actually beatable.

I guess the real definition of choke is the Bucks where they are the leading team in the regular season but can't even be in the ECF. Nets has not in the playoffs yet with this big 3, we need to witness what they'll do first before we judge and I think if they'll underperform in the playoffs, we might not see the big 3 in the next season.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 08, 2021, 06:25:00 AM

Maybe the next question for Nets is that, can they handle the pressure now as the favorite to win the championship? Or are they going to choke in the playoffs?

Nah, they won't gonna choke. If they lose, they lose and that's because they are actually beatable. Yes they are such a strong team to beat, but a few good teams in the West like the Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers, and Clippers could actually beat the Nets team.
If you notice, Durant has been so fragile after he had a major Injury in GSW. Once he gets injured in post season, any team in the East could actually beat them. Kyrie and Harden's leadership hasn't prove anything yet. This is why I can say the Nets are such a stacked and strong team, but they're actually beatable.

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Nuggets continues their hot win streak.

They beat the Spurs 106-96 and everyone is making their own contribution.
They are in 7 win streak now, and number 4 in standing behind the Clipperes. (https://ph.global.nba.com/standings/)

How long this streak will go?

I think they can extend it to at least 10 games, they will have Spurs back to back, then Celtics, might be a tough one, and then Warriors.

Maybe the next question for Nets is that, can they handle the pressure now as the favorite to win the championship? Or are they going to choke in the playoffs?

Let's talk about the playoffs once the playoffs come, I believe Nets will not choke in the playoffs because they are in the East and it's an easier journey for them compared to being in the West. If they old the number 1 spot, they'll face a weaker playoff team in the first round, and as long as all big 3 are healthy, Nets might dominate their opponent, even the other good teams in the East like Celtics, 76ers, and Heat.

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