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July 17, 2020, 04:30:53 AM
Agree with Barkley here if the Blazers would get back Nurkic and Zach Collins. Blazers is on a different level if Nurkic is on their line-up. They may have beaten the Warriors last year and played in the Finals if Nurkic was not injured.
Disagree with you and Barkley here Cheesy

While I agree that Blazers will be stronger with Nurkic and Collins, keep in mind that those two players were away for a long time. Collins got injured last November, and situation with Nurkic was even worse, so I don't expect them back at their previous level immediately. Nurkic could even be on minutes restriction considering his injury and time being away.

To be honest, even if all those players are at their full health, I wouldn't consider them favorites against this Lakers.

I am with you, Lakers are on a different level and Blazers are messing up now, not sure what's the reason, could be Melo's arrival or could be anything.
They aren't the same Blazers, but if they'll qualify in the 8 spot, I would still love to see them, but then I would not expect they'll upset the Lakers which will likely their possible rival in the first round.
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July 17, 2020, 03:20:34 AM
Agree with Barkley here if the Blazers would get back Nurkic and Zach Collins. Blazers is on a different level if Nurkic is on their line-up. They may have beaten the Warriors last year and played in the Finals if Nurkic was not injured.
Disagree with you and Barkley here Cheesy

While I agree that Blazers will be stronger with Nurkic and Collins, keep in mind that those two players were away for a long time. Collins got injured last November, and situation with Nurkic was even worse, so I don't expect them back at their previous level immediately. Nurkic could even be on minutes restriction considering his injury and time being away.

I agree to this one. Injuries and time lost of not playing is a proven thing in NBA that somehow depreciates player's capability. Enough said  Grin. But don't get me wrong those two guys were a great addition if they weren't not suffering anything. And I believe they still would soon with a proper workout or whatever is that just like any other.


But regardless of the current numbers, it seems NBA retart will still push through.

The set-up is almost finish, I think so? And those who won't be able to participate in bubble have their replacement prepared already. And as long as the majority remains uninfected and healthy inside the stadium, I don't think they need to bother themselves cancelling the game. Few more days of waiting, and we will be able to see 'em back in action again... I'm so excited, damn  Grin.
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July 17, 2020, 02:59:25 AM
Continuation of the list

Another important list to make is the number of players who tested positive for COVID-19 before the restart:

Eric Bledsoe of the Milwaukee Bucks is the latest of the NBA players who tested positive of COVID-19.

Here's the latest so far:

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Eric Bledsoe, Milwaukee Bucks -- Diagnosis reported on July 16
James Ennis, Orlando Magic -- Diagnosis/recovery announced on July 15
Harrison Barnes, Sacramento Kings -- Diagnosis announced on July 14
Russell Westbrook, Houston Rockets -- Diagnosis announced on July 13
Gary Payton Jr., Washington Wizards -- Diagnosis reported on July 9
Thomas Bryant, Washington Wizards -- Diagnosis reported on July 9
Taurean Prince, Brooklyn Nets -- Diagnosis reported on July 7 (Update: Not traveling to bubble)
Landry Shamet, Los Angeles Clippers -- Diagnosis reported on July 4
Three unnamed players, Miami Heat -- Diagnoses reported on July 3, 4
Three unnamed players, New Orleans Pelicans -- Diagnosis announced on June 30
DeAndre Jordan, Brooklyn Nets -- Diagnosis announced on June 29 (Update: Not traveling to bubble)
Spencer Dinwiddie, Brooklyn Nets -- Diagnosis announced on June 29 (Update: Not traveling to bubble)
Derrick Jones Jr., Miami Heat -- Diagnosis reported on June 25 (Update: Returned to practice on July 14)
Alex Len, Sacramento Kings -- Diagnosis reported on June 24
Buddy Hield, Sacramento Kings -- Diagnosis reported on June 24 (Update: Returned to practice on July 15)
Jabari Parker, Sacramento Kings -- Diagnosis announced on June 24 (Update: Returned to practice on July 15)
Malcolm Brogdon, Indiana Pacers -- Diagnosis announced on June 24 (Update: Cleared to practice on July 15)
Nikola Jokic, Denver Nuggets -- Diagnosis reported on June 23 (Update: Arrived in bubble on July 14)
Two unnamed players, Phoenix Suns -- Diagnosis reported on June 23
Four unnamed players, unnamed Western Conference team -- Diagnosis reported on June 23
Michael Malone, Denver Nuggets coach -- Diagnosis and recovery announced on June 15
James Dolan, New York Knicks owner -- Diagnosis announced March 28 (Update: cleared on April 22)
Two unnamed players, Los Angeles Lakers -- Diagnosis reported on March 19 (Update: Players symptom-free on March 31)
Marcus Smart, Boston Celtics -- Diagnosis announced on March 19 (Update: cleared on March 30) 
Three unnamed members of organization, Philadelphia 76ers -- Diagnosis announced on March 19
Kevin Durant, three unnamed teammates, Brooklyn Nets -- Diagnosis announced on March 17 (Update: All four symptom-free on April 1) 
Christian Wood, Detroit Pistons -- Diagnosis announced on March 14 (Update: "Fully recovered," per agent on March 26)
Donovan Mitchell, Utah Jazz -- Diagnosis announced on March 12 (Update: cleared on March 27)
Rudy Gobert, Utah Jazz -- Diagnosis announced on  March 11 (Update: cleared on March 27)
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There are some guys here who have participated in mass gatherings in the past like the recent street protests. Now, they've also endangered the lives of their friends/teammates/family.

But regardless of the current numbers, it seems NBA retart will still push through.
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July 17, 2020, 02:21:41 AM
Agree with Barkley here if the Blazers would get back Nurkic and Zach Collins. Blazers is on a different level if Nurkic is on their line-up. They may have beaten the Warriors last year and played in the Finals if Nurkic was not injured.
Disagree with you and Barkley here Cheesy

While I agree that Blazers will be stronger with Nurkic and Collins, keep in mind that those two players were away for a long time. Collins got injured last November, and situation with Nurkic was even worse, so I don't expect them back at their previous level immediately. Nurkic could even be on minutes restriction considering his injury and time being away.

To be honest, even if all those players are at their full health, I wouldn't consider them favorites against this Lakers.
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July 17, 2020, 01:35:53 AM
Barkley Predicts Blazers Will Beat Lakers in First Round of NBA Playoffs

NBA legend Charles Barkley predicted on Thursday that if the Portland Trail Blazers capture the eighth seed for the upcoming NBA Playoffs, they will beat the top-seeded Los Angeles Lakers in the first round.

https://www.blazersedge.com/2020/7/16/21327920/charles-barkley-predicts-blazers-beat-lakers-first-round-nba-playoffs



Agree with Barkley here if the Blazers would get back Nurkic and Zach Collins. Blazers is on a different level if Nurkic is on their line-up. They may have beaten the Warriors last year and played in the Finals if Nurkic was not injured.
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July 17, 2020, 01:10:47 AM
Barkley Predicts Blazers Will Beat Lakers in First Round of NBA Playoffs

NBA legend Charles Barkley predicted on Thursday that if the Portland Trail Blazers capture the eighth seed for the upcoming NBA Playoffs, they will beat the top-seeded Los Angeles Lakers in the first round.

https://www.blazersedge.com/2020/7/16/21327920/charles-barkley-predicts-blazers-beat-lakers-first-round-nba-playoffs

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July 17, 2020, 12:20:07 AM
Good day everyone!

I want to share with you this article, it's worth a read ,

The most surprising and disappointing NBA players of the 2019-20 season

I am fully surprise with the surprising players in the list, Jayson Tatum and Bam Adebayo is my favorite this season.

It's a good read. Thanks.

Surprising: Dennis Schroder
This guy really made it through.
With all the changes in their roster he still pursued and now one of the best in OKC.

Disappointing: Mike Conley
I have looked up to this guy when we are talking about offense.
He is one hell of a shooter.
I just don't know what happened to him. Is it age issue?

Disappointing: Kevin Love
Somehow, this is an error for me.
He might be disappointed but not disappointing.
He still have the touch. Just lacks the right roster to compete once again.
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July 16, 2020, 11:53:49 PM
What's the point of all these security measures if players will be allowed to go outside.

All things they need or requests can be asses by staff.

Simple as it is, "just follows the rules". No need actually for too many guidelines because after all, the player itself should understand and knows what to do. They know the reason why they are in the bubble in the first place.

Precisely. They need to comply taking this virus seriously, they don't need to do anything that might get the chance to infect them,
the spread can happen to quick so every precautions that they can do to avoid the virus should be taken place, they are professionals
so they really need  to show now.
Not though if there's contract that will lock them to this agreement, hope there's one to make it more strict.

Considering the salary these guys are getting paid, I'm surprised people don't understand that they're already getting a good deal by having their expenses paid during this whole "bubble" situation as well as being paid their NBA salary. They have every right to sit out this season and forfeit their salary/contract.

1. We all have the same idea, so why can't they have the same view as ours?
Are they really that hard-headed?
2. Don't they love playing basketball that they need more?
3. Let's say it will take 3-4 months inside the bubble to finish this season and Finals. Is it really that long for an individual?
4. Will they rather stay at home and let their teammates do the job with their salaries being cut by management?

Freaking hammer to their heads to be thankful they had been given a chance to play again in a secured way rather than being fat at home again.
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July 16, 2020, 07:22:54 PM

Considering the salary these guys are getting paid, I'm surprised people don't understand that they're already getting a good deal by having their expenses paid during this whole "bubble" situation as well as being paid their NBA salary. They have every right to sit out this season and forfeit their salary/contract.

At the end of the day the decision is theirs whether they want to playback in this upcoming restart of the season or not. We also need to consider the other players with a low salary might facing difficulties about what is happening right now. maybe they will gonna find some way if the game will resume somehow. which is now possible because they announce the game will restart on July 31. However, if the risk is too high for them, I think they should consider thinking about the well-being of the players rather than fixing the unfinished season with this strategy.

If I am a player, I wouldn't complain of a low salary as I am still privilege to have a work despite of the increasing unemployment rate in the US.
NBA players are not really earning low, it's just that they already set their standard of living to "HIGH".
I think there is no reason for other players to feel discourage when it comes to income because we should be aware that the lowest salary for a NBA player is at $900,000. For me it is a big amount of money so there is no reason for them to say that they are not getting paid well.

The current season will be restart after all and the practice facility is now open again so the players are returning to their normal state for them to play like before but there are agents saying that the season should be cancelled because of the threat of the COVID 19. There is still no clear statement from the commissioner of the NBA.
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July 16, 2020, 06:42:34 PM
Good day everyone!

I want to share with you this article, it's worth a read ,

The most surprising and disappointing NBA players of the 2019-20 season



I am fully surprise with the surprising players in the list, Jayson Tatum and Bam Adebayo is my favorite this season.
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July 16, 2020, 04:53:52 PM

Considering the salary these guys are getting paid, I'm surprised people don't understand that they're already getting a good deal by having their expenses paid during this whole "bubble" situation as well as being paid their NBA salary. They have every right to sit out this season and forfeit their salary/contract.

At the end of the day the decision is theirs whether they want to playback in this upcoming restart of the season or not. We also need to consider the other players with a low salary might facing difficulties about what is happening right now. maybe they will gonna find some way if the game will resume somehow. which is now possible because they announce the game will restart on July 31. However, if the risk is too high for them, I think they should consider thinking about the well-being of the players rather than fixing the unfinished season with this strategy.

If I am a player, I wouldn't complain of a low salary as I am still privilege to have a work despite of the increasing unemployment rate in the US.
NBA players are not really earning low, it's just that they already set their standard of living to "HIGH".
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July 16, 2020, 04:46:07 PM

Considering the salary these guys are getting paid, I'm surprised people don't understand that they're already getting a good deal by having their expenses paid during this whole "bubble" situation as well as being paid their NBA salary. They have every right to sit out this season and forfeit their salary/contract.

At the end of the day the decision is theirs whether they want to playback in this upcoming restart of the season or not. We also need to consider the other players with a low salary might facing difficulties about what is happening right now. maybe they will gonna find some way if the game will resume somehow. which is now possible because they announce the game will restart on July 31. However, if the risk is too high for them, I think they should consider thinking about the well-being of the players rather than fixing the unfinished season with this strategy.
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July 16, 2020, 04:19:16 PM

 I mean if NBA do not force the rules, what do you expect the players to do? The smart ones are already at their places minding their own business, as you can see only very few of them are breaking the rules and rest of them are following the rules properly. Which is understandable, I mean %1 of a population doesn't understand why rules are rules and break them anyway and even more would break it if they knew they wouldn't be punished for it.

 What can change this is NBA forcing their rules very strictly, if anyone makes a mistake nba should not only ban them from bubble but cut their salary in half, even more, just punish them millions of dollars and even community service if they have that type of rights. I mean we are talking about a player risking not only his own life, but also all the other players he will be in contact with, all the staf that works in the hotel and in the stadiums, and basically all other humans he is with, just becase... he wants a burger from outside?

  I mean thats just silly, there are rules and they should be punished very strictly or they are free to go home, they are not forced there, just go home if you do not want to be in there with the others, nobody chained you there, your home is free and you can just ask for food delivery whenever you want when you are at home and you will be risking only yourself and people around you there, not the whole league.
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July 16, 2020, 02:28:18 PM
I think it is understandable that security would allow players to go outside however they should not let them go inside..

What's the point of all these security measures if players will be allowed to go outside.

All things they need or requests can be asses by staff.

Simple as it is, "just follows the rules". No need actually for too many guidelines because after all, the player itself should understand and knows what to do. They know the reason why they are in the bubble in the first place.


Considering the salary these guys are getting paid, I'm surprised people don't understand that they're already getting a good deal by having their expenses paid during this whole "bubble" situation as well as being paid their NBA salary. They have every right to sit out this season and forfeit their salary/contract.
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July 16, 2020, 02:08:42 PM
I think it is understandable that security would allow players to go outside however they should not let them go inside..

What's the point of all these security measures if players will be allowed to go outside.

All things they need or requests can be asses by staff.

Simple as it is, "just follows the rules". No need actually for too many guidelines because after all, the player itself should understand and knows what to do. They know the reason why they are in the bubble in the first place.
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July 16, 2020, 01:00:32 PM
I actually hope they knew that already.
There will never be getting out once you are in.
Aren't the news already a proof of that and then the lockdowns and quarantines.
It should be a common sense to them.
I bet it was also written and they signed something about that rule.

For now, what they could show is more discipline.
They are professionals, maybe start acting like one.

Precisely. They need to comply taking this virus seriously, they don't need to do anything that might get the chance to infect them,
the spread can happen to quick so every precautions that they can do to avoid the virus should be taken place, they are professionals
so they really need  to show now.
Not though if there's contract that will lock them to this agreement, hope there's one to make it more strict.
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July 16, 2020, 12:57:35 PM
My top NBA players list is the following:

James Lebron
Leonard Kawhi
Giannis Antetokounmpo
James Harden

Why Durant is not included?

I thought he is one of the best in the NBA.

Well, I can't argue that is your picks, and it's your personal opinion..Maybe we can also add westbrook to the list since he once won an MVP award and this guy is very good that could average a tripple double if he wants too, now, the stats has dropped because he paired with James Harden.

I did not include him on the list because at that moment Durant is behaving badly  Grin. All the same, basketball is primarily a team game, if you know what I mean.
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July 16, 2020, 12:46:07 PM
I actually hope they knew that already.
There will never be getting out once you are in.
Aren't the news already a proof of that and then the lockdowns and quarantines.
It should be a common sense to them.
I bet it was also written and they signed something about that rule.

For now, what they could show is more discipline.
They are professionals, maybe start acting like one.
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July 16, 2020, 12:41:56 PM
I think it is understandable that security would allow players to go outside however they should not let them go inside, or they should prepare some sort of delivery system where if you want food, you can order from outside but someone with hazmat suit or whatever care they can will take it, will put it all in plates and all that and basically get rid of everything but the food that came from outside. That way whoever is taking it will be prepared and ready for contact with outside world and they will take a shower or whatever afterwards as well. Meanwhile player only gets his order in a plate to his room and can't get any virus that way.

Of course if they want to just get out, there should be a rule of NBA that says "any player who leaves the bubble, will not be allowed to comeback", as long as there is a rule like that, one or two more players will go outside, they will not be allowed and sent home, other players will get the message about how serious NBA is about not leaving.
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July 16, 2020, 06:31:45 AM
I just can't remove that mindset because even if they're just going their job, a fan will always be fan even if you're not facing your idol but if you're facing one of them, you'll admire and feel the need to do him a favor.

Tough choice, yeah. But as far as the job's obligation goes I don't think that the security invovle with the incident is worthy of his position now. Might be harsh, however, you just can't compromise health matters over a pleasure of allowing your idol go over the boundaries. It is okay, if it won't put anyone at risk but it is a life-threatening virus they are dealing with, smh, not to mention that everyone in the area doesn't have a healthy body as them  Undecided.
It's a delicate matter and someone grants him go outside without the consent of anyone even from his colleagues or from the management, that's a very bad thing that he have done.

Do we have news about what his colleagues says about his selfish actions?

I haven't seen anything yet. If you happen to see one please drop it here, I'd like to hear their side too  Wink.
I haven't too but rest assured, will do.
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