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legendary
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May 19, 2020, 04:38:53 PM
I can't believe such sneakers will value that high, oh my God $560,000 just for a sneakers, I would not even but it at $1000,, seriously... my shoes is just around $100 and less, but I understand it's MJ but I just can't believe people are willing to spend that much.

Hardcore sports collectors are all rich.

The amount is nothing once they get the item. It's either a success or achievement or business in the future

In 10-30 years, as long as the condition is maintained, or MJ meets the other life (no offense meant), that shoes might be put again in auction for future collectors.
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May 19, 2020, 02:58:59 PM
The Last Dance is a great sports documentary explained by its own protagonist. It is the most great thing that I can admire. Michael Jordan brings emotions to life in every scene, is the magic of reliving the best plays of the great basketball legend. The best in spectacle that we are celebrating in this time of crisis of the year 2020.
legendary
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May 19, 2020, 01:44:46 PM
You're lucky to watch it live. I didn't.  Cry
It is worth to watch it even now, all games are available on YouTube, albeit in poor quality. I started watching those games again, today I watched the 1st one, and plan is to watch one each day. It was incredibly close series  as all games (except game 2 that was completely crazy ) ended up within 5 points difference. I forgot how good Utah was, they were as good as Bulls (only team that Bulls didn't beat in the regular season) and series could have gone either way. It is a shame that they never won a title.


One thing that bothered me a lot was lack of Kukoc, that dude played amazingly and very efficiently during the Jazz games yet there was a ton of Steve Kerr talk, even Kerr's early childhood when Kerr had 11 points on that game while Kukoc played with 11/13 for 30 points that game scoring more than even Jordan when he got nothing.
Yep, that bothered me as well that documentary was more focused on hype than on being objective and giving some players deserved credit, especially Kukoc. In those Finals series  against Utah he was almost as important to Bulls as Pippen was, yet they barely mentioned him. Steve Kerr was almost irrelevant there, scoring 3.8 pts on average in those games, but he is now very popular as GSW coach, so creators decided to capitalize that and get extra attention. It is a very good basketball documentary but just for that i simply can't call it the best, Hoop Dreams (1994) still holds that title.

Piece of trivia that was confirmed by Phil: in that game 5, when Kukoc was top scorer with 30 pts, and Jazz leading 83:81, Phil wanted for Kukoc to take that last shot as he knew that Jazz wil focus their defense on MJ. They made play for him, but ball ended up with Jordan and he tried that contested shot, that wasn't even close.
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May 19, 2020, 01:21:58 PM
Watched the last episodes of The last dance and I think this was the best basketball documentary that was ever made, not that there are tons of them out there in the wild right now, but it is definitely the best of them. It was also amazing for Netflix to have some sort of deal as well that we had it on netflix after it was aired in USA as well since we are outside of USA and would have made it very terrible to wait for it to legally exist, so we would have to download torrents and all.

One thing that bothered me a lot was lack of Kukoc, that dude played amazingly and very efficiently during the Jazz games yet there was a ton of Steve Kerr talk, even Kerr's early childhood when Kerr had 11 points on that game while Kukoc played with 11/13 for 30 points that game scoring more than even Jordan when he got nothing.
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May 19, 2020, 05:16:20 AM
In 10 - 20 years than might double the price or maybe more. As long as the authenticity is safe then he will have no problem at all.
Unless some scandal happens, price will most certainly  go up. Sports memorabilia is usually good investment, and due inflation by keeping cash all you do is loose money, and in let's say 20 years, it will add up to decent amount.
Scandal means, Jordan dying with unnatural cause?  Grin Knock on wood.
I still think it will. That is something that tells history of basketball.
Someone out there would want that someday, maybe to donate in a museum if he is too damn rich.

I tried to not read the last part of your posts Rika.
My instincts tell me that it will be another spoiler from the first line of it.  Grin
No worries, there are no spoilers there, just an anecdote from 1998.
Oh thank God!
It's because of this which is why I didn't continue reading.  Grin
I just finished watching last 2 episodes of the documentary,

You're lucky to watch it live. I didn't.  Cry
During that Finals series, we had to go on high school trip and stay at some crappy bungalows for 4 days, and that would mean missing out on 2 games. 6-7 of us that were really into NBA wanted to cancel the trip, but since it was already paid, parents forced us to go.  So in order to watch those games ( I think game 2 and game 3), one friend brought with him small portable 10" TV that he took from his grandpa. Improvise, adapt and overcome!
legendary
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May 19, 2020, 04:45:12 AM
You're still young though, as I'm already working that time, and I did watch some clips of the highlights in the internet that time. I was fairly young with this internet thingy, but someone show me where to see it so I will try to look at it whenever the boss is not looking. Then going home smiling having watch the game and can't wait to tell my buddies about my experience. I will watch the last 2 episodes later and I'm sure it will bring back memories as well.
Haha, it's been a  while since someone called me young as I am almost 40 yo, it feels good Cheesy . But yeah, there was alot of hype back then, we all  heard the rumors that it might be their last season together, so no one wanted to miss any game.


In 10 - 20 years than might double the price or maybe more. As long as the authenticity is safe then he will have no problem at all.
Unless some scandal happens, price will most certainly  go up. Sports memorabilia is usually good investment, and due inflation by keeping cash all you do is loose money, and in let's say 20 years, it will add up to decent amount.


I tried to not read the last part of your posts Rika.
My instincts tell me that it will be another spoiler from the first line of it.  Grin
No worries, there are no spoilers there, just an anecdote from 1998.
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May 18, 2020, 10:33:28 PM

I can't believe such sneakers will value that high, oh my God $560,000 just for a sneakers, I would not even but it at $1000,, seriously... my shoes is just around $100 and less, but I understand it's MJ but I just can't believe people are willing to spend that much.

Must be a rich guy with nothing else to do in his money.  Grin
It might be also for investment purposes.
We don't know the reasons behind it but this is like a collectors item now.

Could skyrocket in value someday.

The holder of this shoes has to invest also on the maintenance of the place where this shoes will be store and the shoes itself, shoes has to look like its original look and what's important to take care is the signature of the shoes. Damn, if this will be valued $1 million in the future, the current own might enjoy a huge profit.
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May 18, 2020, 10:29:29 PM

I can't believe such sneakers will value that high, oh my God $560,000 just for a sneakers, I would not even but it at $1000,, seriously... my shoes is just around $100 and less, but I understand it's MJ but I just can't believe people are willing to spend that much.

Must be a rich guy with nothing else to do in his money.  Grin
It might be also for investment purposes.
We don't know the reasons behind it but this is like a collectors item now.

Could skyrocket in value someday.
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May 18, 2020, 10:22:04 PM
Almost freaking 4 times the expected auction price.
Wow! A big WOW!
https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/michael-jordan-game-worn-air-jordans-sell-for-record-560000/
Damn, that's crazy price, but is also smart decision by seller, The Last Dance generated a lot of hype around MJ once again. Since he bought those sneakers back in 2012, he probably made a nice profit on them. Buyer probably sees it as an investment, as those things are usually  bought for that purpose.

A wise move to the buyer too.
Buy it while its cheap.
In 10 - 20 years than might double the price or maybe more. As long as the authenticity is safe then he will have no problem at all.

I tried to not read the last part of your posts Rika.
My instincts tell me that it will be another spoiler from the first line of it.  Grin

I can't believe such sneakers will value that high, oh my God $560,000 just for a sneakers, I would not even but it at $1000,, seriously... my shoes is just around $100 and less, but I understand it's MJ but I just can't believe people are willing to spend that much.
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May 18, 2020, 08:41:47 PM
Almost freaking 4 times the expected auction price.
Wow! A big WOW!
https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/michael-jordan-game-worn-air-jordans-sell-for-record-560000/
Damn, that's crazy price, but is also smart decision by seller, The Last Dance generated a lot of hype around MJ once again. Since he bought those sneakers back in 2012, he probably made a nice profit on them. Buyer probably sees it as an investment, as those things are usually  bought for that purpose.

A wise move to the buyer too.
Buy it while its cheap.
In 10 - 20 years than might double the price or maybe more. As long as the authenticity is safe then he will have no problem at all.

I tried to not read the last part of your posts Rika.
My instincts tell me that it will be another spoiler from the first line of it.  Grin
legendary
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May 18, 2020, 06:30:37 PM
I hope in one month from now, NBA will resume.

Risky if 1 month from now. Weekly death toll average in the US is crazy.

Maybe for the next 3 months, even though still not safe but at least we can expect good progress 3 months from now.

Lots of time needed to prepare everything. All of their proposed plans are just currently stated in their papers, discussing the pros and cons, advantages and disadvantages but no actions yet have been done physically.
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May 18, 2020, 05:16:41 PM
Almost freaking 4 times the expected auction price.
Wow! A big WOW!
https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/michael-jordan-game-worn-air-jordans-sell-for-record-560000/
Damn, that's crazy price, but is also smart decision by seller, The Last Dance generated a lot of hype around MJ once again. Since he bought those sneakers back in 2012, he probably made a nice profit on them. Buyer probably sees it as an investment, as those things are usually  bought for that purpose.

I just finished watching last 2 episodes of the documentary, it was so tense to watch recap of that Finals series against, Utah, even though we all know how it ended. It brought back a lot of memories, like waking up at 4 am in the morning to watch those games and then after that straight to school.
During that Finals series, we had to go on high school trip and stay at some crappy bungalows for 4 days, and that would mean missing out on 2 games. 6-7 of us that were really into NBA wanted to cancel the trip, but since it was already paid, parents forced us to go.  So in order to watch those games ( I think game 2 and game 3), one friend brought with him small portable 10" TV that he took from his grandpa. Improvise, adapt and overcome! Cheesy

Spoiler Alert,  Smiley. You're still young though, as I'm already working that time, and I did watch some clips of the highlights in the internet that time. I was fairly young with this internet thingy, but someone show me where to see it so I will try to look at it whenever the boss is not looking. Then going home smiling having watch the game and can't wait to tell my buddies about my experience. I will watch the last 2 episodes later and I'm sure it will bring back memories as well.
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May 18, 2020, 02:06:57 PM
Football leagues are coming back but at the very best possibility these teams will play like 20 games total, and probably not even that much, most teams will play like 8 games or whatever and that is basically just 2 games a week for one month and be done with it. NBA has harder path to come back, 20 games left on the regular season plus there is playoffs.

I don't know how they will come back, or when they will come back, but when they do come back, we are not going to see an awesome season from now on, players could be ready for few first games, but the further we get to end of the regular season and we start to see the playoffs, we are going to see that players will basically be barely making any shots. If I was a rebounder I would say practice people who airball or short their shots this season, there will be plenty of them.
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May 18, 2020, 12:56:23 PM
Almost freaking 4 times the expected auction price.
Wow! A big WOW!
https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/michael-jordan-game-worn-air-jordans-sell-for-record-560000/
Damn, that's crazy price, but is also smart decision by seller, The Last Dance generated a lot of hype around MJ once again. Since he bought those sneakers back in 2012, he probably made a nice profit on them. Buyer probably sees it as an investment, as those things are usually  bought for that purpose.

I just finished watching last 2 episodes of the documentary, it was so tense to watch recap of that Finals series against, Utah, even though we all know how it ended. It brought back a lot of memories, like waking up at 4 am in the morning to watch those games and then after that straight to school.
During that Finals series, we had to go on high school trip and stay at some crappy bungalows for 4 days, and that would mean missing out on 2 games. 6-7 of us that were really into NBA wanted to cancel the trip, but since it was already paid, parents forced us to go.  So in order to watch those games ( I think game 2 and game 3), one friend brought with him small portable 10" TV that he took from his grandpa. Improvise, adapt and overcome! Cheesy
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May 18, 2020, 09:33:28 AM
Almost freaking 4 times the expected auction price.
Wow! A big WOW!

https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/michael-jordan-game-worn-air-jordans-sell-for-record-560000/

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With the massively popular series, “The Last Dance,” bringing renewed focus to the basketball icon’s career, a pair of autographed game-worn sneakers from Jordan’s 1984-85 rookie season were sold on Sunday for a record $560,000, bringing in about four times as much money as Sotheby’s anticipated.

Yeah, that's what I am talking about.
This will be displayed in the living room with full protection from dust.  Grin
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May 18, 2020, 08:53:41 AM
I personally feel like basketball talent has this subjective part that you could both agree to disagree but also has a level where its stupid. When you say something like Gary Payton was a better player at his peak than Lebron at his peak, thats stupid, thats not subjective in my eye and that's biased, however if you say Mj is better than Lebron or say Lebron is better than MJ that is understandable, you do not have to agree with that person but you could understand why they think that way.

So if you know the level, if you know the small gap between these players, you would understand why one seen above the other. Do not say stuff like I would take Brad Miller over Shaq Cheesy. But you could say I would take Kobe over Lebron, its those type of things that make the arguments fun as well.
If you know the gap and understand the levels of skills and IQ inside the court you'll be able to give your opinion according to how you see who has the advantage, though there's no need to agree or to argue since it's your personal choice.
Opinions which is based to how you see players and what   their contributions and how they've dominates the league, always depend to your own assessment.
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May 18, 2020, 08:16:53 AM

Exactly, I watched Jordan while I was very young and appreciate his game and admire him as a player, I watched Kobe while I was in highschool and loved the way he plays as I understand the game of basketball. Then, I watched LeBron during my college days and liked his type of game. Critics were normal, but discrediting them for what they have accomplished and achievements is a straight disrespectful, considering how hard they trained since day 1.

People respect players but people just have their own favorite players in NBA, it doesn't matter how they train,  we don't see it, what we see is them playing in the court and how they give a win on their respective team, it's normal for players to receive a lot of criticism or praise because as a fan, we are emotional, we idolize or we hate players and they have to accept it as that is how they earn money from the fans.

Im sorry, but I think you didn't get my point my friend.
I said :
Critics were normal, but discrediting them for what they have accomplished and achievements is a straight disrespectful, considering how hard they trained since day 1.
If you're totally aware about the hate Kobe, or Lebron, or Jordan, or any other player in the NBA surrounding over the social media that someone would actually put a lot of effort and time to post unnecessary hate towards them. I don't think that's a normal critics right? But, we're going away with the message I want to point out.

If you're following my comments regarding this issue, this for the person who said LeBron's achievement ain't real like Kobe's or Jordan.
Discrediting his achievement is far different than actual critics.

If you call that discrediting then that's it, but you like I said, there are people who hate or idolize a certain player and this people might not respect the player that they don't like, I think as a fan we should already understand that since in this world, not all people are good people that's why you can't please everyone.

Its discrediting since even if we can see the skills and dominance of the player still many people hates him and the main reason on why we see this thing is the fact that their favorite player has been dominated by their bullied player and this always happen on lebron and stephen curry, they always gain a hate eventhough they fun to watch inside the court.
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May 18, 2020, 07:19:08 AM

Exactly, I watched Jordan while I was very young and appreciate his game and admire him as a player, I watched Kobe while I was in highschool and loved the way he plays as I understand the game of basketball. Then, I watched LeBron during my college days and liked his type of game. Critics were normal, but discrediting them for what they have accomplished and achievements is a straight disrespectful, considering how hard they trained since day 1.

People respect players but people just have their own favorite players in NBA, it doesn't matter how they train,  we don't see it, what we see is them playing in the court and how they give a win on their respective team, it's normal for players to receive a lot of criticism or praise because as a fan, we are emotional, we idolize or we hate players and they have to accept it as that is how they earn money from the fans.

Im sorry, but I think you didn't get my point my friend.
I said :
Critics were normal, but discrediting them for what they have accomplished and achievements is a straight disrespectful, considering how hard they trained since day 1.
If you're totally aware about the hate Kobe, or Lebron, or Jordan, or any other player in the NBA surrounding over the social media that someone would actually put a lot of effort and time to post unnecessary hate towards them. I don't think that's a normal critics right? But, we're going away with the message I want to point out.

If you're following my comments regarding this issue, this for the person who said LeBron's achievement ain't real like Kobe's or Jordan.
Discrediting his achievement is far different than actual critics.

If you call that discrediting then that's it, but you like I said, there are people who hate or idolize a certain player and this people might not respect the player that they don't like, I think as a fan we should already understand that since in this world, not all people are good people that's why you can't please everyone.
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May 18, 2020, 05:48:26 AM
Tracking NBA teams who have opened up practice facilities

The NBA has had practices open since to voluntary workouts since May 8. Not all teams have re-opened practice facilities but there’s expected to be 22 or so teams practicing by next week.

https://dknation.draftkings.com/nba/2020/5/17/21261648/nba-season-2020-return-date-tracker-teams-practicing-workouts-updates-coronavirus-covid-19

Liked this news, very positive, they are practicing means they are preparing for a possible resumption of the NBA, I can smell it will be happening soon.

Hopefully in next 1-2 months we will start seeing some of the action to take place and this is a good thing and a positive sign about practicing. How and under what conditions the game will begin perhaps the time will only tell and with so many restrictions will also be imposed once the game begins on court.

I know they are already planning the rules or the rules are already created that will be use as a guideline if the NBA will resume.
If you guys are super excited with this, I am too, not because I'll enjoy it watching but because I will be able to have fun betting online again, in the past I don't necessarily watch the games that I bet, so maybe that's the reason why I'm okay if this game will be played without the fans in the arena.

I hope in one month from now, NBA will resume.
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May 18, 2020, 05:29:26 AM
Tracking NBA teams who have opened up practice facilities

The NBA has had practices open since to voluntary workouts since May 8. Not all teams have re-opened practice facilities but there’s expected to be 22 or so teams practicing by next week.

https://dknation.draftkings.com/nba/2020/5/17/21261648/nba-season-2020-return-date-tracker-teams-practicing-workouts-updates-coronavirus-covid-19
More good news.
That's cool!
I think I have already updated about the Portland opening also here in this thread weeks ago.
They are letting 5 players only for moderation.
Of course they will bring some cameraman and their trainers and that is why they will just let enough.

Perhaps they changed it now, it had been 10 days already since the announcement.
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