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August 01, 2019, 08:58:35 AM
Ok guys I just has this thought last night. I was watching Zion W. highlights in youtube and I was amazed by this kid, he was also a freak in nature. So this lead me to question the NBA fans here.

Which do you think is more gifted overall? The Greek Freak - Giannis or Zion who even though is too heavy at 285 lbs but can freely move around, jumps so high for a dunk and even a block and very very agile for his frame?

We will never know unless Zion play with the big boys. The NBA is very different from college basketball, we have seen a lot of high potential picks in the previous years that went bust when they enter the league.

I remember Darius Miles, very athletic in his college days, dunking on everyone, however, when he enter the league, he still have the same game, but we all know that you can't just jump over any players in the NBA, it's not that sustainable and you need to developed.

So we need to see how Zion's body will react to the 80++ games in the NBA and see if he can still maintain that athleticism.

Yeah you can't really compare the reigning mvp to someone, though obviously gifted, that hasn't been tried before. The summer league is a hell lot different from the actual season. The highlights you're seeing in youtube is against boys compared to the actual competition when the likes of kawhi or pat beverly is in his face.
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August 01, 2019, 08:18:21 AM
Ok guys I just has this thought last night. I was watching Zion W. highlights in youtube and I was amazed by this kid, he was also a freak in nature. So this lead me to question the NBA fans here.

Which do you think is more gifted overall? The Greek Freak - Giannis or Zion who even though is too heavy at 285 lbs but can freely move around, jumps so high for a dunk and even a block and very very agile for his frame?

We will never know unless Zion play with the big boys. The NBA is very different from college basketball, we have seen a lot of high potential picks in the previous years that went bust when they enter the league.

I remember Darius Miles, very athletic in his college days, dunking on everyone, however, when he enter the league, he still have the same game, but we all know that you can't just jump over any players in the NBA, it's not that sustainable and you need to developed.

So we need to see how Zion's body will react to the 80++ games in the NBA and see if he can still maintain that athleticism.
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August 01, 2019, 07:30:35 AM
Ok guys I just has this thought last night. I was watching Zion W. highlights in youtube and I was amazed by this kid, he was also a freak in nature. So this lead me to question the NBA fans here.

Which do you think is more gifted overall? The Greek Freak - Giannis or Zion who even though is too heavy at 285 lbs but can freely move around, jumps so high for a dunk and even a block and very very agile for his frame?
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August 01, 2019, 06:48:19 AM
It's the team that did decreased his exposure and it's really sad on his part. But that's life including ones career.
The team manages the minutes of the players based on his contribution, he has limited minutes because he hasn't contributed well.

We just have to move on and at least he's part of Raptors history of taking their first ever championship.
He was not recognize for that and I think he himself felt he didn't contribute for that championship.
People will recognized him as the Linsanity, and that will live forever especially for the Asians since there's only few Asians that made a name in the NBA.
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August 01, 2019, 06:39:14 AM
That's just the life of basketball, you don't make decision but the management.
It's not that he is not a good player, maybe there are other players that are better than him and can fit with the system, also the management are trying to invest in the younger once so they can develop.

Linsanity is still here but people forget because he was not able to maintain it, he played in different teams after the NYK and hasn't showed that.
Too bad for him but this is the truth. I know through his press conference he's trying to get sympathy from the nba fans and I think he perfectly did it.

And at the same time, this can also be his farewell. With all of the memes that was made about him, many have laughed and I guess most of them are feeling sorry about him now.  Undecided
This kind of business is just touch, he is in the NBA and teams here are getting people that would give them return, unfortunately, his value is high enough for the return he is giving to the team and his past performance is already enough as a basis why nobody signs him yet.
Also, he is not the only player that loss their career in NBA, there's lots of them but they move on and look for another opportunity outside NBA.
It's the team that did decreased his exposure and it's really sad on his part. But that's life including ones career.

We just have to move on and at least he's part of Raptors history of taking their first ever championship.
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August 01, 2019, 01:31:37 AM
He is just 30 and they say his being "Linsanity" is over. Urgh!

That's just the life of basketball, you don't make decision but the management.
It's not that he is not a good player, maybe there are other players that are better than him and can fit with the system, also the management are trying to invest in the younger once so they can develop.

Linsanity is still here but people forget because he was not able to maintain it, he played in different teams after the NYK and hasn't showed that.
He was injured and wasn't able to get the needed exposure again after leaving New York Knicks. Yes, he has a lot of basketball ahead of him and maybe he can still shows some glimpse of Linsanity fever again. China is a good option, we have seen lots of ex-NBA players goes to CBA after their career in NBA.
Maybe  he thought he still belong in the star level in the NBA as he has some good moments in the past with Linsanity, but it was just a hype, Lin can't carry a team to bring it to the playoffs. He had some good playing time with the Lakers, and was not able to show the way he showed with the Knicks.
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July 31, 2019, 05:36:17 PM
He is just 30 and they say his being "Linsanity" is over. Urgh!

That's just the life of basketball, you don't make decision but the management.
It's not that he is not a good player, maybe there are other players that are better than him and can fit with the system, also the management are trying to invest in the younger once so they can develop.

Linsanity is still here but people forget because he was not able to maintain it, he played in different teams after the NYK and hasn't showed that.
He was injured and wasn't able to get the needed exposure again after leaving New York Knicks. Yes, he has a lot of basketball ahead of him and maybe he can still shows some glimpse of Linsanity fever again. China is a good option, we have seen lots of ex-NBA players goes to CBA after their career in NBA.
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July 31, 2019, 05:33:09 PM

It's not over, teams doesn't appreciate his individual skills inside the ring and he was lack of exposure during the finals. First time to see an NBA player cry infront of camera because of his situation on how he's depressed and thinks that the league has given him up. And recently getting the championship is just sadder because of the lack of appreciation for him. This man should start making up himself and building a better Lin.
I'm sure we'll see him comeback.

How will it not be over if they keep of NOT giving him any minutes.
He cannot showcase anything if the management itself is not putting him in the floor.
Now, the problem becomes larger. He doesnt have a team.
Should he go to D League for now to beat the hell out of those players there just for the remaining years of his career?
There could be some reasons why the management or the coaching staff didn't gave him that much time. It's likely that he doesn't have confidence with them. About his career, with what I've heard he's going back to China and will play for a team there right? Don't know the full details or that's just a rumor. He understands that he can't force himself anymore on NBA and I think this will also lead to some other chinese players not to take chance anymore on the league if ever they will be asked to come and join.
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July 31, 2019, 03:35:35 PM
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Should he go to D League for now to beat the hell out of those players there just for the remaining years of his career?

I think he has a better chance and more money if he goes to China. Just follow the trend. If you can't get in on NBA, then try China and get some great pay. It is never over for him yet. There are instances that players are out of work for years and still make a come back. Just look at Gerald Green, he was out of work before Houston Rockets got him on the team.

I say Euro League. He might fit there.
Most of the NBA players go there for money.

Look at Allen Iverson, although his reason is when the management is trying to make him as second stringer (which he didn't like). More of a Carmelo Anthony story like.


Maybe you are not seeing what the coaches are seeing. Maybe he can shoot and make those fancy passes but there are so many aspects of the game that he may be lacking from the coaches point of view. It's also not like he's a unique or once in a lifetime player.

Don't do that. Fans wont cheer for him at his best if he aint unique.
He can explode for so many times just like how superstars do it and also have his off nights which superstars also have.
Still it doesnt make sense for me.
I will look deeper to what analysts would say about this.
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July 31, 2019, 12:50:24 PM
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Should he go to D League for now to beat the hell out of those players there just for the remaining years of his career?

I think he has a better chance and more money if he goes to China. Just follow the trend. If you can't get in on NBA, then try China and get some great pay. It is never over for him yet. There are instances that players are out of work for years and still make a come back. Just look at Gerald Green, he was out of work before Houston Rockets got him on the team.
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July 31, 2019, 10:32:15 AM
Worse, you love playing the game but no one is trying to give you minutes again to showcase your skills.

Just dont know why an explosive guy like Jeremy Lin will be benched like that.
He can do "no look" pass and shoot with a high percentage. Can also penetrate the paint. Just what the hell is the reason behind the sudden dip of this guy.

He is just 30 and they say his being "Linsanity" is over. Urgh!
Maybe you are not seeing what the coaches are seeing. Maybe he can shoot and make those fancy passes but there are so many aspects of the game that he may be lacking from the coaches point of view. It's also not like he's a unique or once in a lifetime player.
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July 31, 2019, 09:02:51 AM

It's not over, teams doesn't appreciate his individual skills inside the ring and he was lack of exposure during the finals. First time to see an NBA player cry infront of camera because of his situation on how he's depressed and thinks that the league has given him up. And recently getting the championship is just sadder because of the lack of appreciation for him. This man should start making up himself and building a better Lin.
I'm sure we'll see him comeback.

How will it not be over if they keep of NOT giving him any minutes.
He cannot showcase anything if the management itself is not putting him in the floor.
Now, the problem becomes larger. He doesnt have a team.
Should he go to D League for now to beat the hell out of those players there just for the remaining years of his career?

He is just 30 and they say his being "Linsanity" is over. Urgh!

That's just the life of basketball, you don't make decision but the management.
It's not that he is not a good player, maybe there are other players that are better than him and can fit with the system, also the management are trying to invest in the younger once so they can develop.

Linsanity is still here but people forget because he was not able to maintain it, he played in different teams after the NYK and hasn't showed that.

Same with what happens with others who just got months of injuries but yet forgotten.
But yet, it is still unfair in my sight.
Other superstars go thru years of injuries but yet still offered a good number.
The media also have a contribution to all of this.
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July 31, 2019, 03:38:19 AM
That's just the life of basketball, you don't make decision but the management.
It's not that he is not a good player, maybe there are other players that are better than him and can fit with the system, also the management are trying to invest in the younger once so they can develop.

Linsanity is still here but people forget because he was not able to maintain it, he played in different teams after the NYK and hasn't showed that.
Too bad for him but this is the truth. I know through his press conference he's trying to get sympathy from the nba fans and I think he perfectly did it.

And at the same time, this can also be his farewell. With all of the memes that was made about him, many have laughed and I guess most of them are feeling sorry about him now.  Undecided
This kind of business is just touch, he is in the NBA and teams here are getting people that would give them return, unfortunately, his value is high enough for the return he is giving to the team and his past performance is already enough as a basis why nobody signs him yet.
Also, he is not the only player that loss their career in NBA, there's lots of them but they move on and look for another opportunity outside NBA.
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July 30, 2019, 11:01:57 PM
That's just the life of basketball, you don't make decision but the management.
It's not that he is not a good player, maybe there are other players that are better than him and can fit with the system, also the management are trying to invest in the younger once so they can develop.

Linsanity is still here but people forget because he was not able to maintain it, he played in different teams after the NYK and hasn't showed that.
Too bad for him but this is the truth. I know through his press conference he's trying to get sympathy from the nba fans and I think he perfectly did it.

And at the same time, this can also be his farewell. With all of the memes that was made about him, many have laughed and I guess most of them are feeling sorry about him now.  Undecided
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July 30, 2019, 06:53:05 PM
He is just 30 and they say his being "Linsanity" is over. Urgh!

That's just the life of basketball, you don't make decision but the management.
It's not that he is not a good player, maybe there are other players that are better than him and can fit with the system, also the management are trying to invest in the younger once so they can develop.

Linsanity is still here but people forget because he was not able to maintain it, he played in different teams after the NYK and hasn't showed that.
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July 30, 2019, 06:49:28 PM

Feel sad for Jeremy Lin. He really feels down that no one is showing interest for him. He literally cried while delivering a statement about NBA giving up on him in front of a large audience. Even coming out on a championship, Lin doesn't feel his championship ring since he thinks he didn't deserve it.

And that became the saddest part of NBA right now. You have a ring, but doesnt have a salary for a year? Worse, you love playing the game but no one is trying to give you minutes again to showcase your skills.

Just dont know why an explosive guy like Jeremy Lin will be benched like that.
He can do "no look" pass and shoot with a high percentage. Can also penetrate the paint. Just what the hell is the reason behind the sudden dip of this guy.

He is just 30 and they say his being "Linsanity" is over. Urgh!
It's not over, teams doesn't appreciate his individual skills inside the ring and he was lack of exposure during the finals. First time to see an NBA player cry infront of camera because of his situation on how he's depressed and thinks that the league has given him up. And recently getting the championship is just sadder because of the lack of appreciation for him. This man should start making up himself and building a better Lin.
I'm sure we'll see him comeback.
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July 30, 2019, 06:41:32 PM

Feel sad for Jeremy Lin. He really feels down that no one is showing interest for him. He literally cried while delivering a statement about NBA giving up on him in front of a large audience. Even coming out on a championship, Lin doesn't feel his championship ring since he thinks he didn't deserve it.

And that became the saddest part of NBA right now. You have a ring, but doesnt have a salary for a year? Worse, you love playing the game but no one is trying to give you minutes again to showcase your skills.

Just dont know why an explosive guy like Jeremy Lin will be benched like that.
He can do "no look" pass and shoot with a high percentage. Can also penetrate the paint. Just what the hell is the reason behind the sudden dip of this guy.

He is just 30 and they say his being "Linsanity" is over. Urgh!
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July 30, 2019, 03:27:31 PM
As far as the recent free agency status is a concern, looks like no teams shown interest on some of the notable names left on the free agency like Carmelo Anthony, Shaun Livingston, Jeremy Lin, JR Smith, Lance Stephenson, etc.
Shaun Livingston has to be signed somewhere, even for a minimum contract. The guy can still play and knows how to really share the ball. I've also seen that Lin video, he should have elevated his game after his Linsanity stint. I understand that he still wants to play and prove something but there are just better guys out there.

We won't see again another Linsanity fever. That major injury really changed his career. If only a minor injury instead happened, maybe few teams today will still considered him as a backup point guard. With lots of best Point/Shooting guards today, it's really doubtful if Lin will be one of the options. I think he wants to show something more but the problem is his limited playing time. I watched the video of him crying, really sad on what is happening right now on his career.

Shaun Livingston is predicted to be landed on LAC although it's just a rumor till now.
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July 30, 2019, 03:17:18 PM
May is not a billionaire, at least in dollars, I saw a youtube video about the richest boxer in sports, and Manny was only rank no. 3 with 200 million usd net worth. I don't know if that data is reliable but I could believe he is not that rich. He can own  PBA team but not an NBA team.
I think he can qualify to as a stake holder though i don't know what's the amount to become one but i think 200 million USD is more than enough for a stake.
For stake I think that's reliable estimate. A result came out on google about this related topic, the other amounts were outdated but at least we have an idea with the figures and how costly it is to own a team.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-it-cost-to-buy-an-NBA-basketball-team
So every team has different rate, and I think even at the lowest valued team, Manny can't afford at the moment, unless he will put all his money in the NBA. Buying a low valued team is a good investment if the team would improve in the long run as it will also increase it's value, also the location is one big factor as well, and the popularity of the team which it has build from the past is important.

I'm just curious now on what will happen to the Cavaliers, they were so popular when Lebron was with them but now they are losing fans and there was one time that they were selling tickets at a very low price already.
Yes, they don't have the same rates and they are like products. I agree that investing to low valued is possible for him but it still needs a lot of investment to go along and make the team work out only if he's looking into returns quickly. This is a big investment for him or else he's just enjoying his money and wants to fulfill one of his dream of owning an NBA team. With the Cavs, they'll remain as Cavs and they'll still continue whether their fans leave them because of LBJ.
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July 30, 2019, 03:10:37 PM
As far as the recent free agency status is a concern, looks like no teams shown interest on some of the notable names left on the free agency like Carmelo Anthony, Shaun Livingston, Jeremy Lin, JR Smith, Lance Stephenson, etc.
Shaun Livingston has to be signed somewhere, even for a minimum contract. The guy can still play and knows how to really share the ball. I've also seen that Lin video, he should have elevated his game after his Linsanity stint. I understand that he still wants to play and prove something but there are just better guys out there.
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