What happened to the Ginebra San Miguel? They were dominated by the Meralco bolts ... (91-73). I'm pretty sure bettors loss money in this game, luckyily for me I didn't think of betting on this game because I had a busy schedule today.
Malonzo was hot on their first game but had only scored 4 points this game. And again, Maliksi lead the team with 25 points, when he scored like this, most likely the Bolts will get a win. It's a much needed win for them and they just get a big one against a strong team.
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TNT seemed not moving on from Mikey Williams, they want him that's why his name has appear in the speculation again. They keep chasing him as they had already proven he is a good fit to the team ( based on what they achieved with him).
Unfortnately this guy wants to get paid big, it's his right to demand since he is a pro and he'll play according to the contract. it's not actually a big deal, TNT could just say yes or no, but since they counter, it means they are really desperate on getting him.
Yes, there are local players with talents as well, but TNT doesn't want them, they want a mixed breed as it's more atheletic than pure Filipino. I'm sure we can noticed that most players that have dominated the PBA now are not pure blooded Filipino, only one I know who is full blooded that is dominating and that is our Abay JMF.
Yeah, it's his demand but if TNT won't obliged to pay him and there's no deal that will happen as TNT have kept their mouths shut after Williams negotiated for his 2nd rate after discussing things. Well, that's it and TNT is still a favorable team but they just have to scout out good players while many local players are being on the radar of getting traded, that's where they should focus their time and resources as they can get better and more loyal players to the franchise with that salary. Unfortnately this guy wants to get paid big, it's his right to demand since he is a pro and he'll play according to the contract. it's not actually a big deal, TNT could just say yes or no, but since they counter, it means they are really desperate on getting him.
Yes, there are local players with talents as well, but TNT doesn't want them, they want a mixed breed as it's more atheletic than pure Filipino. I'm sure we can noticed that most players that have dominated the PBA now are not pure blooded Filipino, only one I know who is full blooded that is dominating and that is our Abay JMF.
He's brought championship to TNT and that's why he's demanding. But if I am the management of TNT, I'd just let it go because if someone don't have that passion to play for the team despite being paid that much, he should know that even this is a professional league and career, budget might be a problem for the team although they've been there around for a long time. There could even bigger problems as you've said since the salary cap is bypassed if granted his request for a bigger cap.
Saying Mikey Williams brought a championship to TNT is not an appropriate description to say, at least for me.
When TNT won the 2021 PBA Philippine Cup, Williams might have been the Finals MVP there but the whole cast of TNT also contributed big. It just happened that Williams topped the scorecard but overall, he's not the one who brought TNT a championship back then. Can't say he brought the championship in that case.
When TNT won the 2023 PBA Governors Cup, the league couldn't give the MVP to the import that's why the locals are chosen. But on the whole series, it was their import Hollis-Jefferson as the main reason why TNT dominated the Brgy. Ginebra in the Finals.
Mikey Williams has had a bad attitude even before. Always late in the practice without being noticed, always asking for a max salary increase even way back in his rookie season because he claimed he was good (yes he's good but not professional). TNT can move forward without him not unless Mikey Williams itself will be humble in returning to the team.
I think this is the second time that Williams and the TNT have negotiated so I don't think that there will ever be third time even if he humbles himself. The problem with him is that, yes this is a livelihood to them but the opportunity that he's getting for that slot of his is being desired by the other players especially the local players that have talent and heart to play the game in the PBA. Well, TNT must just move and forget about him and ask some other players that are okay to be traded to land that slot for him.
TNT seemed not moving on from Mikey Williams, they want him that's why his name has appear in the speculation again. They keep chasing him as they had already proven he is a good fit to the team ( based on what they achieved with him).
Unfortnately this guy wants to get paid big, it's his right to demand since he is a pro and he'll play according to the contract. it's not actually a big deal, TNT could just say yes or no, but since they counter, it means they are really desperate on getting him.
Yes, there are local players with talents as well, but TNT doesn't want them, they want a mixed breed as it's more atheletic than pure Filipino. I'm sure we can noticed that most players that have dominated the PBA now are not pure blooded Filipino, only one I know who is full blooded that is dominating and that is our Abay JMF.
It fits to chot's system so they are still pursuing to have him back even the kid have that attitude, he's promising as he got the same type of a skill set like Alapag and Castro, we know how chot relied with these two stars and they are trying to duplicate that with Poguy and Williams combinations, though I guess with his attitude it will be difficult for coach chot to develop him from how he wanted him him to be, not unless TNT will give him the money that he's asking but I doubt maybe he will accept it then demand for more after, not sure what's the real score here but we just need to wait for more updates regarding to this negotiation that still ongoing for both Williams camp and TNT management.
He's brought championship to TNT and that's why he's demanding. But if I am the management of TNT, I'd just let it go because if someone don't have that passion to play for the team despite being paid that much, he should know that even this is a professional league and career, budget might be a problem for the team although they've been there around for a long time. There could even bigger problems as you've said since the salary cap is bypassed if granted his request for a bigger cap.
Saying Mikey Williams brought a championship to TNT is not an appropriate description to say, at least for me.
When TNT won the 2021 PBA Philippine Cup, Williams might have been the Finals MVP there but the whole cast of TNT also contributed big. It just happened that Williams topped the scorecard but overall, he's not the one who brought TNT a championship back then. Can't say he brought the championship in that case.
When TNT won the 2023 PBA Governors Cup, the league couldn't give the MVP to the import that's why the locals are chosen. But on the whole series, it was their import Hollis-Jefferson as the main reason why TNT dominated the Brgy. Ginebra in the Finals.
Mikey Williams has had a bad attitude even before. Always late in the practice without being noticed, always asking for a max salary increase even way back in his rookie season because he claimed he was good (yes he's good but not professional). TNT can move forward without him not unless Mikey Williams itself will be humble in returning to the team.
I think this is the second time that Williams and the TNT have negotiated so I don't think that there will ever be third time even if he humbles himself. The problem with him is that, yes this is a livelihood to them but the opportunity that he's getting for that slot of his is being desired by the other players especially the local players that have talent and heart to play the game in the PBA. Well, TNT must just move and forget about him and ask some other players that are okay to be traded to land that slot for him.
TNT seemed not moving on from Mikey Williams, they want him that's why his name has appear in the speculation again. They keep chasing him as they had already proven he is a good fit to the team ( based on what they achieved with him).
Unfortnately this guy wants to get paid big, it's his right to demand since he is a pro and he'll play according to the contract. it's not actually a big deal, TNT could just say yes or no, but since they counter, it means they are really desperate on getting him.
Yes, there are local players with talents as well, but TNT doesn't want them, they want a mixed breed as it's more atheletic than pure Filipino. I'm sure we can noticed that most players that have dominated the PBA now are not pure blooded Filipino, only one I know who is full blooded that is dominating and that is our Abay JMF.
Some of the players nowadays are not fully blooded Filipino cause we all know that some of them are half Filipino. But it doesn't matter as long they are in here, living having their Filipino citizenship then that's good.
He's brought championship to TNT and that's why he's demanding. But if I am the management of TNT, I'd just let it go because if someone don't have that passion to play for the team despite being paid that much, he should know that even this is a professional league and career, budget might be a problem for the team although they've been there around for a long time. There could even bigger problems as you've said since the salary cap is bypassed if granted his request for a bigger cap.
Saying Mikey Williams brought a championship to TNT is not an appropriate description to say, at least for me.
When TNT won the 2021 PBA Philippine Cup, Williams might have been the Finals MVP there but the whole cast of TNT also contributed big. It just happened that Williams topped the scorecard but overall, he's not the one who brought TNT a championship back then. Can't say he brought the championship in that case.
When TNT won the 2023 PBA Governors Cup, the league couldn't give the MVP to the import that's why the locals are chosen. But on the whole series, it was their import Hollis-Jefferson as the main reason why TNT dominated the Brgy. Ginebra in the Finals.
Mikey Williams has had a bad attitude even before. Always late in the practice without being noticed, always asking for a max salary increase even way back in his rookie season because he claimed he was good (yes he's good but not professional). TNT can move forward without him not unless Mikey Williams itself will be humble in returning to the team.
I think this is the second time that Williams and the TNT have negotiated so I don't think that there will ever be third time even if he humbles himself. The problem with him is that, yes this is a livelihood to them but the opportunity that he's getting for that slot of his is being desired by the other players especially the local players that have talent and heart to play the game in the PBA. Well, TNT must just move and forget about him and ask some other players that are okay to be traded to land that slot for him.
TNT seemed not moving on from Mikey Williams, they want him that's why his name has appear in the speculation again. They keep chasing him as they had already proven he is a good fit to the team ( based on what they achieved with him).
Unfortnately this guy wants to get paid big, it's his right to demand since he is a pro and he'll play according to the contract. it's not actually a big deal, TNT could just say yes or no, but since they counter, it means they are really desperate on getting him.
Yes, there are local players with talents as well, but TNT doesn't want them, they want a mixed breed as it's more atheletic than pure Filipino. I'm sure we can noticed that most players that have dominated the PBA now are not pure blooded Filipino, only one I know who is full blooded that is dominating and that is our Abay JMF.
He's brought championship to TNT and that's why he's demanding. But if I am the management of TNT, I'd just let it go because if someone don't have that passion to play for the team despite being paid that much, he should know that even this is a professional league and career, budget might be a problem for the team although they've been there around for a long time. There could even bigger problems as you've said since the salary cap is bypassed if granted his request for a bigger cap.
Saying Mikey Williams brought a championship to TNT is not an appropriate description to say, at least for me.
When TNT won the 2021 PBA Philippine Cup, Williams might have been the Finals MVP there but the whole cast of TNT also contributed big. It just happened that Williams topped the scorecard but overall, he's not the one who brought TNT a championship back then. Can't say he brought the championship in that case.
When TNT won the 2023 PBA Governors Cup, the league couldn't give the MVP to the import that's why the locals are chosen. But on the whole series, it was their import Hollis-Jefferson as the main reason why TNT dominated the Brgy. Ginebra in the Finals.
Mikey Williams has had a bad attitude even before. Always late in the practice without being noticed, always asking for a max salary increase even way back in his rookie season because he claimed he was good (yes he's good but not professional). TNT can move forward without him not unless Mikey Williams itself will be humble in returning to the team.
He's brought championship to TNT and that's why he's demanding. But if I am the management of TNT, I'd just let it go because if someone don't have that passion to play for the team despite being paid that much, he should know that even this is a professional league and career, budget might be a problem for the team although they've been there around for a long time. There could even bigger problems as you've said since the salary cap is bypassed if granted his request for a bigger cap.
Saying Mikey Williams brought a championship to TNT is not an appropriate description to say, at least for me.
When TNT won the 2021 PBA Philippine Cup, Williams might have been the Finals MVP there but the whole cast of TNT also contributed big. It just happened that Williams topped the scorecard but overall, he's not the one who brought TNT a championship back then. Can't say he brought the championship in that case.
That was his first season with the TNT and they already won a championship. The description that "he brought championship" might be accurate since he was the best player that time, and winning a finals MVP is a proof to that. We can always hear that kind of words about the best player carrying the team but in reality basketball is a teamwork, so statement like that is quite normal, that only means he was the best palyer that time.
And to the attitude problem, I totally agree with that, but look what is happening now,, as per rumor, they are still pursuing him.....
So good luck to TNT.
At first I thought he was really gonna replace Castro as the best player of the TNT, but overtime he became inconsistent that his shots are not falling anymore. He become most confident in his outside shooting but sometimes he had some bad shooting night which would result to the team losing. But then I read the news that he does not show up in practice or sometimes will come late, so I believe that it was really his unprofessionalism that made the team suffer because they trusted him to contribute big for the success of the team. Now, if TNT will again hire him, hopefully they'll not complain because it will make them look stupid.
I just noticed, it seems like this TN had some problem with their players. If you still remember, the names Romeo and Ray Parks also have some problem with TNT.
He's brought championship to TNT and that's why he's demanding. But if I am the management of TNT, I'd just let it go because if someone don't have that passion to play for the team despite being paid that much, he should know that even this is a professional league and career, budget might be a problem for the team although they've been there around for a long time. There could even bigger problems as you've said since the salary cap is bypassed if granted his request for a bigger cap.
Saying Mikey Williams brought a championship to TNT is not an appropriate description to say, at least for me.
When TNT won the 2021 PBA Philippine Cup, Williams might have been the Finals MVP there but the whole cast of TNT also contributed big. It just happened that Williams topped the scorecard but overall, he's not the one who brought TNT a championship back then. Can't say he brought the championship in that case.
That was his first season with the TNT and they already won a championship. The description that "he brought championship" might be accurate since he was the best player that time, and winning a finals MVP is a proof to that. We can always hear that kind of words about the best player carrying the team but in reality basketball is a teamwork, so statement like that is quite normal, that only means he was the best palyer that time.
And to the attitude problem, I totally agree with that, but look what is happening now,, as per rumor, they are still pursuing him.....
So good luck to TNT.
He's brought championship to TNT and that's why he's demanding. But if I am the management of TNT, I'd just let it go because if someone don't have that passion to play for the team despite being paid that much, he should know that even this is a professional league and career, budget might be a problem for the team although they've been there around for a long time. There could even bigger problems as you've said since the salary cap is bypassed if granted his request for a bigger cap.
Saying Mikey Williams brought a championship to TNT is not an appropriate description to say, at least for me.
When TNT won the 2021 PBA Philippine Cup, Williams might have been the Finals MVP there but the whole cast of TNT also contributed big. It just happened that Williams topped the scorecard but overall, he's not the one who brought TNT a championship back then. Can't say he brought the championship in that case.
When TNT won the 2023 PBA Governors Cup, the league couldn't give the MVP to the import that's why the locals are chosen. But on the whole series, it was their import Hollis-Jefferson as the main reason why TNT dominated the Brgy. Ginebra in the Finals.
Mikey Williams has had a bad attitude even before. Always late in the practice without being noticed, always asking for a max salary increase even way back in his rookie season because he claimed he was good (yes he's good but not professional). TNT can move forward without him not unless Mikey Williams itself will be humble in returning to the team.
He's no doubt needed by TNT but if negotiations won't do with both of them then TNT has to drop their interest on him and they should just go for any other available player that can play his role. He sure is fit with the TNT but if the budget won't fit what he's asking, there will be a lot of issues since this type of talks have been publicized already when the maximum salary cap isn't even half of what he's asking and this is another controversy for the PBA management why they are obviously allowing such under the table.
Better to let him go and not pursue in any negotiations with him, there are many things that TNT needs to explain about his demands if ever they'll managed to sign him back, it was publicly reported and with salary cap that each players can receive for sure it will bounce to the pba commissioner if they will allow this under the table negotiations, I agree that he deserves the payment he's demanding but they placed that cap so better to follow the rules. Though I doubt, if TNT will continue trying maybe they'll just come up with something to announce if ever Mikey will play for them again, we know how things works inside this league, just need and wait on any progress that will be announced.
78-94, it's a 16 point victory.
They are back!
Hopefully they will carry that momentum on their next game. You can see how good their defense are to limit their opponent to 78 points only. This team reach the Semi Finals, for sure that experience was already huge as a factor for them to be more confident, and with this strong 4th quarter run is a resemblance to what they did during their series with the Magnolia Hotshots.
RR Garcia was probably the best player since he score 20 points, the leading scorer and it looks like he turned the clock back with his great performance.
Honestly, I'm surprised and impressed at the same time as I haven't seen him getting this kind of numbers anymore.
Yeah, they managed to reached the semis last season and they are now showing what they've got, after losing 2 games they are now adjusting and I like how you pointed out the defense that they've made, limiting their opponents especially in the 2nd half they just need to be consistent and just play the game with full confidence working along side of each other, they've got a long season to compete and for sure lots of games to work and execute that right system to win a game.
Speaking of Garcia it was way back from the time where him and Romeo was so hot, it's been a long time just like you said to see him producing this numbers.
78-94, it's a 16 point victory.
They are back!
Hopefully they will carry that momentum on their next game. You can see how good their defense are to limit their opponent to 78 points only. This team reach the Semi Finals, for sure that experience was already huge as a factor for them to be more confident, and with this strong 4th quarter run is a resemblance to what they did during their series with the Magnolia Hotshots.
RR Garcia was probably the best player since he score 20 points, the leading scorer and it looks like he turned the clock back with his great performance.
Honestly, I'm surprised and impressed at the same time as I haven't seen him getting this kind of numbers anymore.
PBA have games today, 2 games to be exact.
The first game is over and NLEX again with a win. As usual, Bollick led the game on that win. And it's almost a triple double performance for him.
21 points
9 rebounds.
9 assists.
He is beginning to look like a really special player. I think if we want to see the TNT improve, they should have gotten Bollick as he is good at sharing the ball, making his teammates better and could really carry a team in a consistent basis.
The first game is over and NLEX again with a win. As usual, Bollick led the game on that win. And it's almost a triple double performance for him.
21 points
9 rebounds.
9 assists.
He is beginning to look like a really special player. I think if we want to see the TNT improve, they should have gotten Bollick as he is good at sharing the ball, making his teammates better and could really carry a team in a consistent basis.
He is playing inspired basketball since his baby will be out soon. And she has a lovely wife, I think he is a lucky man and he is happy with his marriage. NLEX now on a winning streak, just a great start of the season for Bollick, clearly we can see that he is an all around player. Meanwhile, Phoenix finally are in the win column, after 2 losing streak, they were able to win via blowout beating the DYIP. It was all tied in the 3rd but in the 4th quarter they have a big run. Great adjustment as they outscored the DYIP 30-14 in just the last quarter.
78-94, it's a 16 point victory.
PBA have games today, 2 games to be exact.
The first game is over and NLEX again with a win. As usual, Bollick led the game on that win. And it's almost a triple double performance for him.
21 points
9 rebounds.
9 assists.
He is beginning to look like a really special player. I think if we want to see the TNT improve, they should have gotten Bollick as he is good at sharing the ball, making his teammates better and could really carry a team in a consistent basis.
The first game is over and NLEX again with a win. As usual, Bollick led the game on that win. And it's almost a triple double performance for him.
21 points
9 rebounds.
9 assists.
He is beginning to look like a really special player. I think if we want to see the TNT improve, they should have gotten Bollick as he is good at sharing the ball, making his teammates better and could really carry a team in a consistent basis.
With Mikey williams, Poguy and Oftana I think they've something to compete with but since Williams is no longer playing with them and Poguy is unable to help that much, Oftana can't take the whole responsibilities, still young and still need more help from his squad.
Speaking of Mikey Williams, I've read that he's asking for a max contract of $31k-$40k from TNT as the negotiation is on again. But then, there was a counter offer from the TNT giving him $26k with some perks that he'd surely like from having a free rent and free car. When he asked for a counter offer of $31k, there was no reply anymore from the TNT. I know that he's good and an MVP but this is more than the policy of salary cap of the PBA and they're allowing this to get spilled? What team can offer him this, maybe Converge?Also read the same article, and the fact that TNT is still pursuing him despite of that high offer, it only says that they really want him to be in the team. Williams will be very effective under coach Chot system because they need a player who can go ISO most of the time, and with his talent he is very fit to the TNT. Also, we should not forget that the first time Mikey Williams played with the TNT, they already won a championship IIRC.
Though I doubt, if TNT will continue trying maybe they'll just come up with something to announce if ever Mikey will play for them again, we know how things works inside this league, just need and wait on any progress that will be announced.
With Mikey williams, Poguy and Oftana I think they've something to compete with but since Williams is no longer playing with them and Poguy is unable to help that much, Oftana can't take the whole responsibilities, still young and still need more help from his squad.
Speaking of Mikey Williams, I've read that he's asking for a max contract of $31k-$40k from TNT as the negotiation is on again. But then, there was a counter offer from the TNT giving him $26k with some perks that he'd surely like from having a free rent and free car. When he asked for a counter offer of $31k, there was no reply anymore from the TNT. I know that he's good and an MVP but this is more than the policy of salary cap of the PBA and they're allowing this to get spilled? What team can offer him this, maybe Converge?Also read the same article, and the fact that TNT is still pursuing him despite of that high offer, it only says that they really want him to be in the team. Williams will be very effective under coach Chot system because they need a player who can go ISO most of the time, and with his talent he is very fit to the TNT. Also, we should not forget that the first time Mikey Williams played with the TNT, they already won a championship IIRC.
With Mikey williams, Poguy and Oftana I think they've something to compete with but since Williams is no longer playing with them and Poguy is unable to help that much, Oftana can't take the whole responsibilities, still young and still need more help from his squad.
Speaking of Mikey Williams, I've read that he's asking for a max contract of $31k-$40k from TNT as the negotiation is on again. But then, there was a counter offer from the TNT giving him $26k with some perks that he'd surely like from having a free rent and free car. When he asked for a counter offer of $31k, there was no reply anymore from the TNT. I know that he's good and an MVP but this is more than the policy of salary cap of the PBA and they're allowing this to get spilled? What team can offer him this, maybe Converge?Also read the same article, and the fact that TNT is still pursuing him despite of that high offer, it only says that they really want him to be in the team. Williams will be very effective under coach Chot system because they need a player who can go ISO most of the time, and with his talent he is very fit to the TNT. Also, we should not forget that the first time Mikey Williams played with the TNT, they already won a championship IIRC.
Desperate times comes with desperate measures, so that is what is happening with TNT now as they don't want this team to become a trash. It's owned by a billionaire, sure they can afford to give the demand of Mikey Williams but they are negotiating like a business people, so hopefully they'll agree with the terms as TNT really need him to help castro carry the team.
I thought they already let go of him due to attitude problem, but with this recent rumors, it looks very positive that they have made a decison to get Mikey back again in the Philippines to play with TNT.
Another one, if he will be back with TNT, is he gonna play with Gilas too, or will coach Tim be interested in getting him?
With Mikey williams, Poguy and Oftana I think they've something to compete with but since Williams is no longer playing with them and Poguy is unable to help that much, Oftana can't take the whole responsibilities, still young and still need more help from his squad.
Speaking of Mikey Williams, I've read that he's asking for a max contract of $31k-$40k from TNT as the negotiation is on again. But then, there was a counter offer from the TNT giving him $26k with some perks that he'd surely like from having a free rent and free car. When he asked for a counter offer of $31k, there was no reply anymore from the TNT. I know that he's good and an MVP but this is more than the policy of salary cap of the PBA and they're allowing this to get spilled? What team can offer him this, maybe Converge?Also read the same article, and the fact that TNT is still pursuing him despite of that high offer, it only says that they really want him to be in the team. Williams will be very effective under coach Chot system because they need a player who can go ISO most of the time, and with his talent he is very fit to the TNT. Also, we should not forget that the first time Mikey Williams played with the TNT, they already won a championship IIRC.
With Mikey williams, Poguy and Oftana I think they've something to compete with but since Williams is no longer playing with them and Poguy is unable to help that much, Oftana can't take the whole responsibilities, still young and still need more help from his squad.
Speaking of Mikey Williams, I've read that he's asking for a max contract of $31k-$40k from TNT as the negotiation is on again. But then, there was a counter offer from the TNT giving him $26k with some perks that he'd surely like from having a free rent and free car. When he asked for a counter offer of $31k, there was no reply anymore from the TNT. I know that he's good and an MVP but this is more than the policy of salary cap of the PBA and they're allowing this to get spilled? What team can offer him this, maybe Converge?Those are legit big 3 in the PBA now. But it was only between SMB and Ginebra which are competing for the championship as they have a lot of quality players. Players that could dominate inside and could score outside, that's SMB and Ginebra... It's their brand that they are making it stronger and this conference, I believe we will again see SMB in the Finals but hopefully it will be versus the Ginebra so people will be excited to watch a 50-50 battle.
If we will based from the players capabilities and their overall competitiveness I agree that both SMB and Ginebra are the two squads that have big potentials to reached the finals, both teams can dominate up to 3-5 years if there's no manipulation and these two teams are from the rival companies, not a bias but if in terms of overall stats both teams can represent our national flag.
Tnt is not much stronger compare as before but they still have a shot to compete. But its undeniable that SMB teams are much stronger that's why the result is somehow predictable.
With Mikey williams, Poguy and Oftana I think they've something to compete with but since Williams is no longer playing with them and Poguy is unable to help that much, Oftana can't take the whole responsibilities, still young and still need more help from his squad.
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