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Quote from: Fredomago on October 29, 2024, 12:01:05 PM

Yeah, I agree to that TNT's defense is very effective during game 1 they outmatched Gin kings players they also managed to limit JBL which the main man of Gin kings offense while kn the other side TNT's productions show really well balanced, it's more on focusing with the defense and rotate the ball to find the right gunner to take the shot, they work as one with the same intention to win.

If they dont work on how JBL could land any offense smoothly then they are in trouble. For sure Gin Kings prepared for the game 2 later at 7:30pm, many expect a revenge win here but will see. There should be a solution for the coaching staff of Leo Austria, or else this will be the same result again.

TNT focuses on limiting points on their star players, maybe the best strategy here is focus or divert the offense of Gin King to other players so they can score even with hands tied up if they prrssing JBL too far.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 29, 2024, 06:12:25 PM

I already placed my bets on Ginebra against TNT for game 2 of the finals.
This is Brgy Ginebra (-3.5). I didn't expect Brgy. Ginebra lost at game 1 that's why I am betting on them in game 2 to expect a win this time. For sure they already learned their lesson on game 1.
I got good odds on this handicap bet, with 1.92, it's already worth the risk. GL to us!

I’m with you on this one, bai. I think this will be a see-saw affair. I hope RJ Abbarientos shows up tonight; he was defended so well in the first game that he couldn’t contribute offensively. I believe RJ is the x-factor in this series. If he plays well, Ginebra’s chances of grabbing the crown are good.

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I already placed my bets on Ginebra against TNT for game 2 of the finals.
This is Brgy Ginebra (-3.5). I didn't expect Brgy. Ginebra lost at game 1 that's why I am betting on them in game 2 to expect a win this time. For sure they already learned their lesson on game 1.
I got good odds on this handicap bet, with 1.92, it's already worth the risk. GL to us!

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Quote from: Maslate on October 28, 2024, 08:59:05 PM

They only made 2 shots from beyond the arc in that game despite many attempts, so it’s clear that the defense was really effective.

Ive watched the game and seriously the way of tnt coordination is impressive. All their comnection was effective and rendered Ginebra defenseless. Almost all users contributing, GSM have a good offense but clearly they are outmatched by the defense of TNT.

I didnt expect the game to be one sided. Looking forward to game 2.

Yeah, I agree to that TNT's defense is very effective during game 1 they outmatched Gin kings players they also managed to limit JBL which the main man of Gin kings offense while kn the other side TNT's productions show really well balanced, it's more on focusing with the defense and rotate the ball to find the right gunner to take the shot, they work as one with the same intention to win.

Game will be expected for the gin kings to bring their counter as its tough to lose 2 straight in the finals, giving that advantage for TNT might not be a good one as they'll push it more harder not to allow any bounce back.

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Quote from: Maslate on October 28, 2024, 08:59:05 PM

They only made 2 shots from beyond the arc in that game despite many attempts, so it’s clear that the defense was really effective.

Ive watched the game and seriously the way of tnt coordination is impressive. All their comnection was effective and rendered Ginebra defenseless. Almost all users contributing, GSM have a good offense but clearly they are outmatched by the defense of TNT.

I didnt expect the game to be one sided. Looking forward to game 2.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 28, 2024, 07:42:10 PM

Justin Brownlee admitted that TNT had an outstanding defensive performance, limiting him to just 38 percent shooting from the field and holding the entire team to a mere 9.5 percent from beyond the arc, a significant drop from their average of 39 percent, which makes them the top team in the PBA in that category. This series is all about adjustments, so we can expect JB and the rest of the team to bounce back and take Game 2.

They only made 2 shots from beyond the arc in that game despite many attempts, so it’s clear that the defense was really effective.

Now, if we believe that Ginebra will even the series in Game 2, this is the time to bet since they have the same line as in Game 1. Ginebra is at -2.5, with a total of 192.5. I’m curious why the bookies set such a low line. I think the over will likely hit in Game 2 because Ginebra definitely won’t shoot as low a percentage as they did in Game 1.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 28, 2024, 02:06:44 AM

What happened in Game 1? It looks like Brownlee was limited by TNT's defense. TNT had a blowout win, and it was their defense that secured the victory. While Abarrientos was a significant contributor on offense in the semifinals, he became a liability on defense this time. TNT really exploited his weaknesses, especially with Jason "The Blur" Castro, who made a big impact in the third quarter.

Justin Brownlee admitted that TNT had an outstanding defensive performance, limiting him to just 38 percent shooting from the field and holding the entire team to a mere 9.5 percent from beyond the arc, a significant drop from their average of 39 percent, which makes them the top team in the PBA in that category. This series is all about adjustments, so we can expect JB and the rest of the team to bounce back and take Game 2.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 27, 2024, 06:55:24 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 27, 2024, 11:58:38 AM

So lucky for those who manage to bet when the line moves especially those who pick the ML as TNT manage to read well if how they'll be able to beat GSMB, though it's just a first game and Gin kings will surely find the right adjustments to bounce back, but for bettors, TNT in the first game is a risky but profitable pick especially for those who loves taking higher odds.

Congrats to whoever Kabayan/s who win this first game, game might be a on TNT's slight favor in terms of odds, let see if how bookies will adjust after that win.

It sounds like TNT Katropa really put on a defensive clinic against Ginebra! It’s always exciting to see how teams adjust between games in a series. Do you think Ginebra will be able to counter TNT’s defense in Game 2, or will TNT continue to dominate?

A bit of trivia: RHJ and JB have faced each other once before, with RHJ coming out on top. This series will be an opportunity for JB to avenge that defeat, or we might witness a repeat of their first encounter.

They need to work breaking that tough defense though knowing GSMB they'll find ways to adjust, might be a surprise as RHJ showing that leadership to balance both offense and their defense as they've got a very decent productions coming from the main cores and their backups, expect to see better ball movements and more aggressive attempts from the Gin kings this upcoming game 2..

Good luck mga kabayan if you'll going to place bets this coming game 2.

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What happened in Game 1? It looks like Brownlee was limited by TNT's defense. TNT had a blowout win, and it was their defense that secured the victory. While Abarrientos was a significant contributor on offense in the semifinals, he became a liability on defense this time. TNT really exploited his weaknesses, especially with Jason "The Blur" Castro, who made a big impact in the third quarter.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 27, 2024, 11:58:38 AM

So lucky for those who manage to bet when the line moves especially those who pick the ML as TNT manage to read well if how they'll be able to beat GSMB, though it's just a first game and Gin kings will surely find the right adjustments to bounce back, but for bettors, TNT in the first game is a risky but profitable pick especially for those who loves taking higher odds.

Congrats to whoever Kabayan/s who win this first game, game might be a on TNT's slight favor in terms of odds, let see if how bookies will adjust after that win.

It sounds like TNT Katropa really put on a defensive clinic against Ginebra! It’s always exciting to see how teams adjust between games in a series. Do you think Ginebra will be able to counter TNT’s defense in Game 2, or will TNT continue to dominate?

A bit of trivia: RHJ and JB have faced each other once before, with RHJ coming out on top. This series will be an opportunity for JB to avenge that defeat, or we might witness a repeat of their first encounter.

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Quote from: Maslate on October 27, 2024, 04:46:45 AM

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TNT +2.5 vs. Ginebra -2.5, with a total at 193.5.

Game 1 starts in less than 2 hours, but the line hasn’t changed at all, which suggests that both teams are getting some good action. As for our local betting scene, we currently have 5 bettors hoping to win until this series wraps up. Good luck to us, and let’s enjoy this PBA Finals series!

Edit : there's a movement as TNT now is +4.5..

So lucky for those who manage to bet when the line moves especially those who pick the ML as TNT manage to read well if how they'll be able to beat GSMB, though it's just a first game and Gin kings will surely find the right adjustments to bounce back, but for bettors, TNT in the first game is a risky but profitable pick especially for those who loves taking higher odds.

Congrats to whoever Kabayan/s who win this first game, game might be a on TNT's slight favor in terms of odds, let see if how bookies will adjust after that win.

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Guys, who was able to bet on TNT in the first game? That's a clean win on TNT.
It's just sad I wasn't able to bet on it because 2 days ago, I still can't see the game in my sportsbook.

Well, I will look forward to game 2 of this match. Now TNT already won the first game, I am wondering if the odds will change for Ginebra for game 2, for sure on those who bet on TNT won huge!

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Quote from: Maslate on October 26, 2024, 01:00:40 AM

TNT +2.5 vs. Ginebra -2.5, with a total at 193.5.

Game 1 starts in less than 2 hours, but the line hasn’t changed at all, which suggests that both teams are getting some good action. As for our local betting scene, we currently have 5 bettors hoping to win until this series wraps up. Good luck to us, and let’s enjoy this PBA Finals series!

Edit : there's a movement as TNT now is +4.5..

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Quote from: Maslate on October 25, 2024, 12:54:51 AM

Quote from: blockman on October 24, 2024, 09:07:21 PM

Good luck to all of our kababayans that are going to participate and the ones that are already in there. I hope that there will be other non-local members of the forum that will be interested in joining that competition thread.

Hey, come join and support our small local betting! We could really use some more participants to crank up the excitement. No rush, there’s still time to decide since the game kicks off on Sunday. I’ve been keeping an eye on the odds - saw some yesterday, though it wasn’t the main market yet.

Thanks for the invite, I am still thinking though but still good luck to all of you kabayans. Just one more day until we get to the first game of the finals.

Quote from: Maslate on October 25, 2024, 12:54:51 AM

From what I’ve noticed, Ginebra only has a slight edge in this series, so I’m guessing it’ll be a tight match...

Looks it's going to be like that. I'm also into Ginebra and it's always been like this feeling just like the last season.

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For those waiting on the betting odds, they’re up now:

TNT +2.5 vs. Ginebra -2.5, with a total at 193.5.

I’m curious why the total is set so low, especially since Ginebra can rack up points, like in their game against SMB. If the score stays low, it might lean in TNT's favor. It’s early, though...I’ll wait to see if the line shifts. Got a feeling TNT might take Game 1, just to surprise the bettors.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 24, 2024, 07:44:20 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 24, 2024, 07:42:27 AM

Yup bookies needs to take their cuts, unlike with P2P whatever the amount you bet on it that's the exact amount that you'll be getting no third party system that will take their percentage hehehe.. And, on that kind of bets even you gave some handicap again that's the actual amount that you'll be getting, still active from my location where gamblers are reaching out to each other and take thier sides, either a game to game bets or a winner take all bets.. Good Luck mga Kabayan!

Yeah, the great thing about P2P betting is that there’s no cut for the bookies. However, the downside is that we’re betting against each other, which sometimes makes me uncomfortable since someone has to lose. But hey, that’s part of the game!

So far, only three people, including myself, have participated in the contest. I hope more people join in because the more, the merrier!

Hahaha, just a friendly gambling showing support with your favorite, not a fan of both teams and comparing their statistics it's really tough to say who's having the advantage, it's more on experienced and good executions since both teams got what they need and really deserves the spot for the finals, comparison wise maybe only fans is the advantage of Gin kings here hahahah..

Good luck to everyone who participate with that contest, not going to add myself as like what I've said tough call for bettors hahaha..

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Quote from: blockman on October 24, 2024, 09:07:21 PM

Good luck to all of our kababayans that are going to participate and the ones that are already in there. I hope that there will be other non-local members of the forum that will be interested in joining that competition thread.

Hey, come join and support our small local betting! We could really use some more participants to crank up the excitement. No rush, there’s still time to decide since the game kicks off on Sunday. I’ve been keeping an eye on the odds - saw some yesterday, though it wasn’t the main market yet. From what I’ve noticed, Ginebra only has a slight edge in this series, so I’m guessing it’ll be a tight match...

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Quote from: Finestream on October 24, 2024, 03:57:22 AM

Quote from: blockman on October 24, 2024, 03:38:47 AM

Maybe if someone is interested with that, he can find that in our local then. Or just some friends that he wants to bet with while having fun for the finals. So, we've got few more days left until the first game for this finals is set to happen. I hope that most of the key players from both teams are healthy and are about to play without any troubles for the remaining days.

It's already up at Sports Betting for PBA Finals: Ginebra vs TNT - Best of 7 Series So far, only three users have opted in to join. Just a heads up, I won't be joining for now since my budget's a bit tight. But honestly, I love the competition's rules—no handicap, just pick the winner, and if they win, you get the prize.

As of now, the users who have participated are:

@bisdak40
@Botnake
@Russlenat

And I like this rule.

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Everyone is welcome to joined, both local and outsiders. Let’s make this series even more exciting!

Nice.
Good luck to all of our kababayans that are going to participate and the ones that are already in there. I hope that there will be other non-local members of the forum that will be interested in joining that competition thread.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 24, 2024, 07:42:27 AM

Yup bookies needs to take their cuts, unlike with P2P whatever the amount you bet on it that's the exact amount that you'll be getting no third party system that will take their percentage hehehe.. And, on that kind of bets even you gave some handicap again that's the actual amount that you'll be getting, still active from my location where gamblers are reaching out to each other and take thier sides, either a game to game bets or a winner take all bets.. Good Luck mga Kabayan!

Yeah, the great thing about P2P betting is that there’s no cut for the bookies. However, the downside is that we’re betting against each other, which sometimes makes me uncomfortable since someone has to lose. But hey, that’s part of the game!

So far, only three people, including myself, have participated in the contest. I hope more people join in because the more, the merrier!

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Quote from: Natalim on October 24, 2024, 12:06:34 AM

Quote from: blockman on October 23, 2024, 11:28:29 PM

Yeah old school but here in my area, there are still a lot of bettors that prefer that. And not just that, also in ending, they're doing it still.
While the convenience is with the bookies and I agree with you, we can't just remove the interest of others that are into p2p betting whether online or with just some peers or relatives to do it.

The great thing about the old-school p2p style is you get the best odds. For example, if you bet 1k, you win 1k. But with a sportsbook, your 1k might only get you 1.90 or even less. I think bisdak is talking about a series bet, and that kind of market isn’t usually available in sportsbooks.

Yup bookies needs to take their cuts, unlike with P2P whatever the amount you bet on it that's the exact amount that you'll be getting no third party system that will take their percentage hehehe.. And, on that kind of bets even you gave some handicap again that's the actual amount that you'll be getting, still active from my location where gamblers are reaching out to each other and take thier sides, either a game to game bets or a winner take all bets.. Good Luck mga Kabayan!

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