2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 10.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 06, 2024, 09:36:44 PM

If I were to believe the game might be rigged, then Game 6 would favor Ginebra.

This is what we're saying even for the past seasons and why many fans don't like the PBA anymore. And even with the 4 point implementation, that has taken the attention for a while but then, it's just that's it.
If the Ginkings will win the game 6 later, I won't say that it's rigged but this what it's like and has always been happening for ages. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for now even though I am one of those doubters before and believing that it actually is.

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Quote from: Questat on November 03, 2024, 09:13:14 AM

game 1 tnt by 16
game 2 tnt by 12
game 3 ginebra by 12
game 4 ginebra by 14...

The trend continues as TNT won Game 5 by 27 points. If Ginebra ties it up tomorrow, they’ll probably win by double digits, or maybe we’ll see a total flip of Game 5 in Game 6. Bettors who backed the team to win by more than 11 points likely made good profits, with odds around 4x or more.

Quote from: Fredomago on November 07, 2024, 06:57:49 AM

Hahaha.. I feel you but that's how things works all now is about business competition might be part of it but more on how the people behind will benefits, from the league itself to those bookies and gamblers, all are tied together and work to support each other, for now there's nothing that can be change it's how things works since the time both SMC and MVP dominated the league.

They will make a history again and break this..

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Record 54,589 fans witness series climax at PH Arena

This was against the BAD.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 07, 2024, 02:00:40 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 06, 2024, 04:47:41 AM

The audience last game 4 proves that even it's no longer entertaining for most fans but there are still who are willing to spend time and money to support their favorite team, especially Brgy Ginebra, that never say die attitude still in the heart of their fans, they are showing their numbers and bring the intensities inside the arena.

Yeah thats the thing about fans on pba even they knew the modus in the game they still watches and support their team. Thats I guess was a filipino culture bound not to change.

Anyway more fans or audience more money for the commisioner. It turning into an entertainment sports like wrestling.

Hahaha.. I feel you but that's how things works all now is about business competition might be part of it but more on how the people behind will benefits, from the league itself to those bookies and gamblers, all are tied together and work to support each other, for now there's nothing that can be change it's how things works since the time both SMC and MVP dominated the league.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 07, 2024, 02:00:40 AM

Yeah thats the thing about fans on pba even they knew the modus in the game they still watches and support their team. Thats I guess was a filipino culture bound not to change.

Anyway more fans or audience more money for the commisioner. It turning into an entertainment sports like wrestling.

Expect a huge crowd tomorrow - it's do or die for Ginebra, so support will be at 100%. If it goes to Game 7, they might even move it to the Philippine Arena to fit all the Ginebra fans. And history shows Ginebra usually wins in Game 7. So, I think TNT's real chance is to finish it in Game 6.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 06, 2024, 04:47:41 AM

The audience last game 4 proves that even it's no longer entertaining for most fans but there are still who are willing to spend time and money to support their favorite team, especially Brgy Ginebra, that never say die attitude still in the heart of their fans, they are showing their numbers and bring the intensities inside the arena.

Yeah thats the thing about fans on pba even they knew the modus in the game they still watches and support their team. Thats I guess was a filipino culture bound not to change.

Anyway more fans or audience more money for the commisioner. It turning into an entertainment sports like wrestling.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 06, 2024, 09:36:44 PM

LOL, what happened to Ginebra? They got absolutely crushed in Game 5. I hope they can still find the confidence to bounce back in Game 6.

Such a defeat in a Finals game is confidence-wrecking, and I just hope that Ginebra can quickly move on from the loss.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 06, 2024, 09:36:44 PM

If I were to believe the game might be rigged, then Game 6 would favor Ginebra...everyone loves a Game 7, especially with stars like Brownlee and RHJ, two of the best imports in the PBA. I think I'll bet blindly on Game 6, taking Ginebra to win, but definitely not without a fight.

Same here, let us just assumed that this is a stage finals where it will end in game 7 LOL.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 06, 2024, 09:36:44 PM

And guys, the under hit easily in that game. I think I’ll stick with the under again next time...it seems like the safer move.

Under is the way to go as the score for that one after 5 games is 4-1.

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LOL, what happened to Ginebra? They got absolutely crushed in Game 5. I hope they can still find the confidence to bounce back in Game 6.

If I were to believe the game might be rigged, then Game 6 would favor Ginebra...everyone loves a Game 7, especially with stars like Brownlee and RHJ, two of the best imports in the PBA. I think I'll bet blindly on Game 6, taking Ginebra to win, but definitely not without a fight.

And guys, the under hit easily in that game. I think I’ll stick with the under again next time...it seems like the safer move.

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Quote from: xLays on November 06, 2024, 11:52:09 AM

I gues the reverse sweep I mentioned will never going to happen. I think Game 6 will go to Talk N Text as well to end this series. I guess those two wins by Ginebra were just given to make money for the venue. (Back to back governor's Cup ito para sa Talk N Text if I'm not mistaken.) Sorry, but I'm really a PBA hater and I rarely watch PBA finals anymore. But unfairness to PBA Finals games there still many audience watching the games in the venue (but if it is only GSM). lol

I understand your feeling for saying that and I'm one with you. But trying to keep the optimism around still, I can't remove that in my mind that the games could have done something like that as usual. I'd still give it to both teams for doing everything they can to make the most of them for their performances.

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Quote from: xLays on November 06, 2024, 11:52:09 AM

I gues the reverse sweep I mentioned will never going to happen. I think Game 6 will go to Talk N Text as well to end this series. I guess those two wins by Ginebra were just given to make money for the venue. (Back to back governor's Cup ito para sa Talk N Text if I'm not mistaken.) Sorry, but I'm really a PBA hater and I rarely watch PBA finals anymore. But unfairness to PBA Finals games there still many audience watching the games in the venue (but if it is only GSM). lol

It is indeed, for sure if it's not Ginebra there's lesser audiences that will support the game, in terms of possibilities maybe TNT may win or maybe they'll be making another drama to force the series to a do-or-die game and will place it to a much bigger venue, maybe Philippine arena is waiving for catering game 7, hahaha.

Like you, most of those old fans are no longer excited knowing that the league are being controlled by some known personalities and the competition is not the same anymore.

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I gues the reverse sweep I mentioned will never going to happen. I think Game 6 will go to Talk N Text as well to end this series. I guess those two wins by Ginebra were just given to make money for the venue. (Back to back governor's Cup ito para sa Talk N Text if I'm not mistaken.) Sorry, but I'm really a PBA hater and I rarely watch PBA finals anymore. But unfairness to PBA Finals games there still many audience watching the games in the venue (but if it is only GSM). lol

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Quote from: Questat on November 06, 2024, 07:12:23 AM

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 06, 2024, 01:06:19 AM

So this game 5 will be a die out matchnto see whose taking the lead.

That's why the game is so physical right now. TNT has an early double-digit lead, but we all know how strong Ginebra is, they could easily come back in the second half, or at least cut the lead to single digits, and then make a big run. If that’s what happens, this series will probably end in 6. This game is crucial for TNT; they’ve already lost two in a row, and they can't afford to drop this one, especially since it’s a confidence booster for the rest of the series.

Let's see if they can make a strong comeback in the second half. The first half was all TNT - they're up by 23 points, which is a huge gap, but nothing’s impossible. If Ginebra can chip away at that lead in the third quarter, maybe get it down by 13 points or more, they could go all out in the final quarter. Ginebra's known for their "never say die" spirit, so as long as there’s still time on the clock, it's not over yet.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 06, 2024, 01:06:19 AM

So this game 5 will be a die out matchnto see whose taking the lead.

That's why the game is so physical right now. TNT has an early double-digit lead, but we all know how strong Ginebra is, they could easily come back in the second half, or at least cut the lead to single digits, and then make a big run. If that’s what happens, this series will probably end in 6. This game is crucial for TNT; they’ve already lost two in a row, and they can't afford to drop this one, especially since it’s a confidence booster for the rest of the series.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 06, 2024, 01:06:19 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 05, 2024, 07:20:51 AM

Hahaha.. We all know the drama inside PBA can't confirm nor deny your speculation as there are many gamblers that surely being burned especially those who thinks that it will be an alternate win-loss for both teams they all being played by the bookies, hahaha, but we can't prove anything as the comminsioner will do their best to cover if ever that leaks will comes up.

Yeah youre right. As much as qe speculate theres or none confirm of game fixing but in the backside of our mind we know there is.

Like why there should be game 7 of course this is a pure business too and we can see that venue events like the odds of until game 7 to make sure the profits from seats tickets are accounted for.

So this game 5 will be a die out matchnto see whose taking the lead.

The audience last game 4 proves that even it's no longer entertaining for most fans but there are still who are willing to spend time and money to support their favorite team, especially Brgy Ginebra, that never say die attitude still in the heart of their fans, they are showing their numbers and bring the intensities inside the arena.

Let see if how many fans will attend this upcoming game 5, the momentum is now equal as both teams will surely push for the win to have a decent edge against each other.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 05, 2024, 07:20:51 AM

Hahaha.. We all know the drama inside PBA can't confirm nor deny your speculation as there are many gamblers that surely being burned especially those who thinks that it will be an alternate win-loss for both teams they all being played by the bookies, hahaha, but we can't prove anything as the comminsioner will do their best to cover if ever that leaks will comes up.

Yeah youre right. As much as qe speculate theres or none confirm of game fixing but in the backside of our mind we know there is.

Like why there should be game 7 of course this is a pure business too and we can see that venue events like the odds of until game 7 to make sure the profits from seats tickets are accounted for.

So this game 5 will be a die out matchnto see whose taking the lead.

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Quote from: freedomgo on November 05, 2024, 09:28:05 PM

Total is 190.5 .... you think it will go under?

I’m picking the under. In the last 4 games, 3 hit the under. Only Game 4 went over with a total of 198 points, while the line was set at 189 - pretty close to the line now. But I expect Game 5 to be more physical. Catch you later, buddy. Let’s not miss out on betting on this one. I think TNT will bounce back from their 2 straight losses and take the lead in the series.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 05, 2024, 08:54:16 PM

My bet: Ginebra ML @1.88

Nice odds for both teams. I'm hoping no more changes happen so bettors can jump on Ginebra with those odds. This is Game 5, and whoever wins has a big shot at the title. Good luck to both sides - I’m sure it’ll be a fun game!

Total is 190.5 .... you think it will go under?

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 05, 2024, 07:50:04 AM

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That’s a tough question, but I’ve been keeping an eye on Stephen Holt and Japeth Aguilar. These two players were instrumental in Ginebra’s recent wins. If Holt averages more than 18 points in the final games, he will likely be named MVP if Ginebra is crowned champion. However, if TNT wins, I believe Calvin Oftana will be the MVP.

Oftana still has a shot, but they really need to get back on track by winning game 5 and taking the lead in the series. Honestly, I don't see Ginebra winning the next two games straight. This could either end in game 6 with TNT taking it, or stretch to game 7 where Ginebra might pull it off. Things have really flipped around though, and it feels like Ginebra’s back in the driver’s seat, even though the series is tied.

This is the first time I’ve seen a PBA finals that feels like a 50-50 match-up; it’s really hard to predict the winner. You have a point there, mate. Ginebra might not beat TNT in four straight games, but tonight, I’ll still be betting on the Ginebra Kings as they seem to have found the formula to beat TNT.

My bet: Ginebra ML @1.88

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Quote from: xLays on November 04, 2024, 09:52:21 AM

Let's say that's Ginebra San Miguel with their "never say die" spirit; things like this arent surprising in the PBA Finals guys it's Ginebra San Miguel. Just watch, Ginebra San Miguel might even pull off reverse sweep. It could be like the NBA Finals with the Suns vs. Milwaukee, going from 2-0 to 3-4. Now, my question here is, if Ginebra wins, who will be the Finals MVP? The same question goes for TNT, but if it's TNT it's pretty sure that RHJ will get the Finals MVP.

Oftana is what many are eyeing for the finals MVP if ever TNT gets the championship.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 05, 2024, 07:50:04 AM

Oftana still has a shot, but they really need to get back on track by winning game 5 and taking the lead in the series. Honestly, I don't see Ginebra winning the next two games straight. This could either end in game 6 with TNT taking it, or stretch to game 7 where Ginebra might pull it off. Things have really flipped around though, and it feels like Ginebra’s back in the driver’s seat, even though the series is tied.

To be honest, I want to see game 7 for this series. But it's true that we might not see the remaining games in favor of Ginebra but this is just our thought about it. Still, 'never say die' as they say.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 04, 2024, 08:20:30 PM

That’s a tough question, but I’ve been keeping an eye on Stephen Holt and Japeth Aguilar. These two players were instrumental in Ginebra’s recent wins. If Holt averages more than 18 points in the final games, he will likely be named MVP if Ginebra is crowned champion. However, if TNT wins, I believe Calvin Oftana will be the MVP.

Oftana still has a shot, but they really need to get back on track by winning game 5 and taking the lead in the series. Honestly, I don't see Ginebra winning the next two games straight. This could either end in game 6 with TNT taking it, or stretch to game 7 where Ginebra might pull it off. Things have really flipped around though, and it feels like Ginebra’s back in the driver’s seat, even though the series is tied.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 04, 2024, 08:45:26 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 03, 2024, 11:57:40 AM

Let see if what are the adjusments for these two competiting teams to have a small edge winning the game 5, the rest will be concluded after that game both deserves to win the title but only one will make it and take the crown.

Do you think theres no foul play here? Or game fixing, not that I am saying there is but there is suddenly a difference in fighting spirit in team of TNT. Im wondering if game 5 will be the same for Ginebra as TNT in reality will not let them slide easily throughout the game. What do you think on my speculation? Suddenly the Import of tnt becomes sluggish on the last two games.

Hahaha.. We all know the drama inside PBA can't confirm nor deny your speculation as there are many gamblers that surely being burned especially those who thinks that it will be an alternate win-loss for both teams they all being played by the bookies, hahaha, but we can't prove anything as the comminsioner will do their best to cover if ever that leaks will comes up.

Still rumors and speculations even there are players who speak about it like Allado before and the last one I just forgot the name of that SMB player who got involve and been expose on the social media, but still nothing hsa been proven hahaha.

Let's enjoy the series though, we can't control anything if manipulation takes place though it's a rival companies and opinions are everywhere..

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