2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 7.

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Matches for today.

Matches for tomorrow guys, December 11.
I'm kinda worried about the starting games of TNT Tropang Giga, in which they already have 2 losses. We all know they were the champions at the last conference. I know it's still early, and that's why also it's also not good to invest heavily in betting these games right now.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 09, 2024, 02:18:42 AM

Quote from: blockman on December 08, 2024, 03:00:21 PM

The PBA has already recognized that the young good talents doesn't want to get into PBA. Kevin Quiambao, one of the best prospects for this generation have already signed a deal with the KBL. He'll earn a lot while playing for that league. And this will also give another idea to the young aspiring basketball professionals that instead of going in the PBA, they should find somewhere else that they will pay them better than of our local league.

This might look bad on the PBA side but somehow more players will benefit from this scenario, i mean instead of Kevin Quiambao being the number one pick next year, there could be another one to replace him so not bad at all, hope you get what i meant hehe. Sooner or later those players playing overseas will get to play in the PBA after their contract expires as not all of them can re-sign with their team because of performance. Playing abroad and away from the family is a sad thing to do so they might play there for a few years then go back to the Philippines to play in the PBA.

I remember that when the officials of PBA went to Japan to talk to the B League officials too because they've found it alarming that many of their young aspiring calibers and players have chosen to play for B League than of the PBA. I think that was the concern of their journey there but they cannot stop these players and the offers are much better than of the PBA. So, playing overseas will make them live better than staying in the PBA that they have a salary cap and the amount of money they'll earn in 2 years in other leagues might be their entire earning in their whole PBA career.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 09, 2024, 05:40:46 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 09, 2024, 02:18:42 AM

This might look bad on the PBA side but somehow more players will benefit from this scenario, i mean instead of Kevin Quiambao being the number one pick next year, there could be another one to replace him so not bad at all, hope you get what i meant hehe. Sooner or later those players playing overseas will get to play in the PBA after their contract expires as not all of them can re-sign with their team because of performance. Playing abroad and away from the family is a sad thing to do so they might play there for a few years then go back to the Philippines to play in the PBA.

We can’t blame players like him for knowing their value, because if he can earn significantly more money playing overseas, why would he choose the PBA, especially when the league has so much politics involved?

Unless the PBA becomes more competitive in terms of salary compared to other basketball leagues in Asia, we won’t see the best players staying here. Overseas, he’s guaranteed to earn more than 1 million pesos a month. In the PBA, for a rookie, that’s simply not possible.

I go with this reason, KQ knew his value and before he will consider signing a rookie contract with any team inside PBA he knew that there are other venues to play the game, and with the talent and skills he possess it's just what happened an overseas contract being signed securing him and his family, the amount of that contract will guarantee him financially and for sure if anyone will get that same offer they won't hesitate to take it.

He always have good option unless he suffer with an injury that will change the way he play the game, he's still young and he got a lot of opportunity to keep improving his game.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 09, 2024, 02:18:42 AM

This might look bad on the PBA side but somehow more players will benefit from this scenario, i mean instead of Kevin Quiambao being the number one pick next year, there could be another one to replace him so not bad at all, hope you get what i meant hehe. Sooner or later those players playing overseas will get to play in the PBA after their contract expires as not all of them can re-sign with their team because of performance. Playing abroad and away from the family is a sad thing to do so they might play there for a few years then go back to the Philippines to play in the PBA.

We can’t blame players like him for knowing their value, because if he can earn significantly more money playing overseas, why would he choose the PBA, especially when the league has so much politics involved?

Unless the PBA becomes more competitive in terms of salary compared to other basketball leagues in Asia, we won’t see the best players staying here. Overseas, he’s guaranteed to earn more than 1 million pesos a month. In the PBA, for a rookie, that’s simply not possible.

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Quote from: blockman on December 08, 2024, 03:00:21 PM

The PBA has already recognized that the young good talents doesn't want to get into PBA. Kevin Quiambao, one of the best prospects for this generation have already signed a deal with the KBL. He'll earn a lot while playing for that league. And this will also give another idea to the young aspiring basketball professionals that instead of going in the PBA, they should find somewhere else that they will pay them better than of our local league.

This might look bad on the PBA side but somehow more players will benefit from this scenario, i mean instead of Kevin Quiambao being the number one pick next year, there could be another one to replace him so not bad at all, hope you get what i meant hehe. Sooner or later those players playing overseas will get to play in the PBA after their contract expires as not all of them can re-sign with their team because of performance. Playing abroad and away from the family is a sad thing to do so they might play there for a few years then go back to the Philippines to play in the PBA.

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The PBA has already recognized that the young good talents doesn't want to get into PBA. Kevin Quiambao, one of the best prospects for this generation have already signed a deal with the KBL. He'll earn a lot while playing for that league. And this will also give another idea to the young aspiring basketball professionals that instead of going in the PBA, they should find somewhere else that they will pay them better than of our local league.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 08, 2024, 09:29:40 AM

Quote from: Japinat on December 08, 2024, 08:59:22 AM

That said, while I’m happy with their performance, I’m not too happy with my bets. I took the bait and bet on SMB -3.5, and I also lost on the team total points with SMB over 108.5. Tough night for me.

That loss was mainly due to SMB's lack of defense. They struggled to defend NLEX's 3 point shooting, which was the key reason NLEX was able to make a comeback. I think they should give Rosales more minutes instead of Tiongson because Tiongson lacks defensive skills and is too predictable.

Sorry for your loss , just bounce back next time!

Yup, especially in the 2nd half where NLEX managed to bounce back and cut that early lead during the first half, they continue to outscored the Beermen and complete that coming from behind win from the heavy powerhouse SMB, I agree with what you've said better to give more minutes to Rosales as he's a 2-way player, he can shoot and give a tough defense, though SMB might be allowing Tiongson to be more familiar with how the system works and how he needs to adjust to fit himself.

Just like how regular gambler needs to do, move forward and look for good game to place your bets..Good luck Kabayan!

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Quote from: Japinat on December 08, 2024, 08:59:22 AM

That said, while I’m happy with their performance, I’m not too happy with my bets. I took the bait and bet on SMB -3.5, and I also lost on the team total points with SMB over 108.5. Tough night for me.

That loss was mainly due to SMB's lack of defense. They struggled to defend NLEX's 3 point shooting, which was the key reason NLEX was able to make a comeback. I think they should give Rosales more minutes instead of Tiongson because Tiongson lacks defensive skills and is too predictable.

Sorry for your loss , just bounce back next time!

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What a game by NLEX.. it was a come from behind win... they were down by as much as 19 points but ended up winning by 5. Bolick was absolutely the hero of the game. He struggled a bit in the first half with a few turnovers, but he exploded in the second half, hitting 2 3 pointers and even 2 4 point shot. This guy is truly a superstar, and he’s made NLEX a much better team.

That said, while I’m happy with their performance, I’m not too happy with my bets. I took the bait and bet on SMB -3.5, and I also lost on the team total points with SMB over 108.5. Tough night for me.

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It’s unusual that there’s no game today. Saturday and Sunday are usually game days. But anyway, the good news is that we have games tomorrow!

According to the schedule, we’ll see:
[1] TNT vs. Northport
[2] NLEX vs. SMB

These are great matchups, especially for TNT, who lost their first game this conference. I’m thinking they’ll come back strong and beat Northport.
Let’s see.... For the betting market, it's not yet available in my bookie now, I will update tomorrow.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 06, 2024, 06:04:31 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 06, 2024, 12:43:49 AM

My bet:
Bolts -12.5 @1.87

This is getting really close, Meralco had a huge run in the 3rd quarter, and if they keep that momentum in the 4th, it’s likely to hit. With the high spread, it usually works out since it’s often undervalued, especially against a struggling team like DYIP. Let’s hope they pull through so you can cash in and go all in on the next game.

Unfortunately DYIP managed to stay behind outscoring Meralco in the final quarter, "bawi na lang ulit kabayan" not sure but most of the time last quarter dominating team continue to rally and make a blow out but this time the handicap got covered and those who take side for the underdog in terms of handicap manage to escape and cashout the win.

Second game, still close TNT needs to work harder not to let the visiting team to dominate them in this 2nd half, still far and still have time for gamblers to bet, good luck!

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2nd game is a thriller, Eastern vs. TNT. So far, Eastern is holding their own, leading in the first quarter. I’m really hoping TNT steps up their defense soon, or my bet on the under 199 is at risk. With the same import, TNT's system should stay consistent, and last season, they were excellent at holding opponents under 100 points, especially during their championship run. Let’s hope they'll still have that defensive form and keep this game tight.

update ---
Won my bet as the total is only 189, but it was a different story, I thought TNT will make their opponent to score less than 100 but it happened to them.
Another strong win by Eastern, all 3 wins are in double digit, and one reason is because young is back in action.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 06, 2024, 12:43:49 AM

My bet:
Bolts -12.5 @1.87

This is getting really close, Meralco had a huge run in the 3rd quarter, and if they keep that momentum in the 4th, it’s likely to hit. With the high spread, it usually works out since it’s often undervalued, especially against a struggling team like DYIP. Let’s hope they pull through so you can cash in and go all in on the next game.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 05, 2024, 06:56:01 AM

I really thought there were games today, turns out it’s tomorrow. Last time, there weren’t any Thursday breaks, if I remember correctly. But checking the schedule now, it looks like we’ll have to wait until tomorrow.

For the games, it’s Bolts vs. DYIP in the first matchup, and then Eastern takes on TNT. I think Eastern is in for their second loss, knowing how strong TNT is, especially on defense. If Eastern struggled last time, they’ll have an even tougher time against a better defensive team like TNT. Looks like a tough day ahead for Eastern.

Odds are out for the Meralco vs Terrafirma game but nothing on the second game, it would be the second time that bookies will not cover the Hong Kong Eastern game.

As expected, the Bolts is the huge favorite going into this game with a -12.5 handicap. DYIP will be parading a replacement import but per report he is only 6'6 which means that he will on the disadvantage when guarding the import of the Bolts so i will be rooting for the Bolts to win this one.

My bet:
Bolts -12.5 @1.87

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Quote from: Japinat on December 05, 2024, 08:29:56 AM

For now, I still believe TNT is the best team. Their import might be undersized, but their improved defense and excellent 3-point shooting remain their strong weapon. And, coming off a championship win last conference, they’re likely playing with sky-high confidence. It’s going to be interesting to see if Eastern can give a good challenge on the defending champ.

We’ll see that tomorrow. TNT beat Ginebra in the finals, and Ginebra defeated Bay Area (or Eastern) years ago, so they must really be the strongest team right now. With RHJ still as their import, they have the advantage of familiarity, making them even more dangerous the longer he stays.

I tried checking the betting odds but couldn’t find anything for this particular game yet. However, for the first game, there was already a line with Meralco being favored by 10 points.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 05, 2024, 06:56:01 AM

For the games, it’s Bolts vs. DYIP in the first matchup, and then Eastern takes on TNT. I think Eastern is in for their second loss, knowing how strong TNT is, especially on defense. If Eastern struggled last time, they’ll have an even tougher time against a better defensive team like TNT. Looks like a tough day ahead for Eastern.

Thanks for the update! The first game doesn’t sound too exciting, but the TNT vs. Eastern matchup is definitely one to watch. I just hope Eastern can play at full strength so we can truly see how TNT handles them.

For now, I still believe TNT is the best team. Their import might be undersized, but their improved defense and excellent 3-point shooting remain their strong weapon. And, coming off a championship win last conference, they’re likely playing with sky-high confidence. It’s going to be interesting to see if Eastern can give a good challenge on the defending champ.

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I really thought there were games today, turns out it’s tomorrow. Last time, there weren’t any Thursday breaks, if I remember correctly. But checking the schedule now, it looks like we’ll have to wait until tomorrow.

For the games, it’s Bolts vs. DYIP in the first matchup, and then Eastern takes on TNT. I think Eastern is in for their second loss, knowing how strong TNT is, especially on defense. If Eastern struggled last time, they’ll have an even tougher time against a better defensive team like TNT. Looks like a tough day ahead for Eastern.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 04, 2024, 09:04:47 AM

Quote from: Finestream on December 04, 2024, 08:55:02 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 03, 2024, 08:05:02 PM

My bet for today:
Magnolia -4.5 @1.85

Magnolia came up short in this game despite their efforts to mount a comeback. It seems their import had some issues, as his performance was very limited. In their last game, I think he had shoulder problems and missed a lot of free-throw attempts. On the other hand, Eastern finally tasted defeat against ROS in the second game. ROS brought in a new import who seems to fit well with their system, he’s not overly ball-dominant, which complements their style of play.

Yup, I did not watch the game but I do check the score and I was in the impression that Mags will push the game and win after that rally back during the 3rd quarter but like what you just mentioned they fell short as NP manage to bounce back and outscored them in the final set, hopefully Mags import will recover if he's having some issue with his physical condition.

They have a very dominant import, but if he’s not at 100%, it’s bound to affect the entire team... They would really loss that game, but I saw their fighting spirit is still there, though, even with a big deficit, they didn’t give up and managed to bring it to a single-possession game, almost forcing overtime. Honestly, that was a tough hill to climb, but you’ve got to commend their effort. They’re really a defensive-minded team.

By the way, I won on this game. I bet on the under 220 live, even after that high-scoring first half, and it paid off.

Quote from: Fredomago on December 04, 2024, 09:04:47 AM

So that's the reason why ROS is the favorite as I check the odd before the game ML for ROS is @1.55, congrats to those who take this as they win the game and gave that first loss for the guest team.

one of the players of the Eastern were not able to play, I heard he had a problem with his passport, that guy was Lam I guess.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 04, 2024, 08:55:02 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 03, 2024, 08:05:02 PM

My bet for today:
Magnolia -4.5 @1.85

Magnolia came up short in this game despite their efforts to mount a comeback. It seems their import had some issues, as his performance was very limited. In their last game, I think he had shoulder problems and missed a lot of free-throw attempts. On the other hand, Eastern finally tasted defeat against ROS in the second game. ROS brought in a new import who seems to fit well with their system, he’s not overly ball-dominant, which complements their style of play.

Yup, I did not watch the game but I do check the score and I was in the impression that Mags will push the game and win after that rally back during the 3rd quarter but like what you just mentioned they fell short as NP manage to bounce back and outscored them in the final set, hopefully Mags import will recover if he's having some issue with his physical condition.

So that's the reason why ROS is the favorite as I check the odd before the game ML for ROS is @1.55, congrats to those who take this as they win the game and gave that first loss for the guest team.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 03, 2024, 08:05:02 PM

My bet for today:
Magnolia -4.5 @1.85

Magnolia came up short in this game despite their efforts to mount a comeback. It seems their import had some issues, as his performance was very limited. In their last game, I think he had shoulder problems and missed a lot of free-throw attempts. On the other hand, Eastern finally tasted defeat against ROS in the second game. ROS brought in a new import who seems to fit well with their system, he’s not overly ball-dominant, which complements their style of play.

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