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April 11, 2023, 06:56:27 AM
The odds for game two are out early, and as of now, TNT is the favorite with 1.61 odds or -3.5 using the spread. I have a feeling that TNT will win here and will cover the spread. This kind of spread is very attractive to Ginebra fans, and if we want to see this series go longer, then TNT should even the series in game 2. My bet would be TNT -3.5.
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April 11, 2023, 01:06:35 AM
If only Pogoy shot better, I think the TNT will win.
I'm not blaming him either because there really are times where a shooter will be having a bad night, and it's the same with him.

I think I have pointed out before the "must-need" things that TNT really needs to win against Ginebra in the Finals and one of those is, Pogoy needs to be consistent. Actually, Pogoy is consistent as a whole but sometimes there are really off-nights for him. That's where the problem is because, if Pogoy is having an off-night, TNT doesn't have a thing to fill Pogoy's hole. For that, I won't blame Pogoy but the TNT locals instead.

Adjustment over adjustment but no adjustment happened.

Anyways, just Game 1 of the series and we'll see if that supposed adjustments by TNT will be seen next game.
Let’s see if TNT will adjust in game two, Pogoy is off in game one and there’s a lot of missed shots from TNT that leads to a big lead, though they have the chance to take the lead unfortunately their shooting is not that good compared to Ginebra. Game 2 will be more exciting, I’m expecting TNT to take this game, waiting for the odds now before i place a game, I think Ginebra will still be the favorite.

I'm hoping that TNT will even the series to make this an interesting one. Pogoy has not been performing as usual after his injury, and I'm not sure if he is already 100%. There's something wrong with his production. TNT's shooting wasn't effective due to Ginebra's great defense, so they need to make it tough for Ginebra too while looking for the best shots. Also, Erram should not be stupid enough to lose in a mind game against C. Stand as TNT would really struggle without a big man.
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April 10, 2023, 04:37:00 PM
If only Pogoy shot better, I think the TNT will win.
I'm not blaming him either because there really are times where a shooter will be having a bad night, and it's the same with him.

I think I have pointed out before the "must-need" things that TNT really needs to win against Ginebra in the Finals and one of those is, Pogoy needs to be consistent. Actually, Pogoy is consistent as a whole but sometimes there are really off-nights for him. That's where the problem is because, if Pogoy is having an off-night, TNT doesn't have a thing to fill Pogoy's hole. For that, I won't blame Pogoy but the TNT locals instead.

Adjustment over adjustment but no adjustment happened.

Anyways, just Game 1 of the series and we'll see if that supposed adjustments by TNT will be seen next game.
Let’s see if TNT will adjust in game two, Pogoy is off in game one and there’s a lot of missed shots from TNT that leads to a big lead, though they have the chance to take the lead unfortunately their shooting is not that good compared to Ginebra. Game 2 will be more exciting, I’m expecting TNT to take this game, waiting for the odds now before i place a game, I think Ginebra will still be the favorite.
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April 10, 2023, 07:30:10 AM
Anyway, it's like a chess game where the losing team will make some adjustments for them not to lose 2 straight. TNT will bounce back (like always), so maybe betting on them would be a good choice. Cheesy

But if we saw some clear problems that TNT is struggling to do, expect that even they adjust, Ginebra will just do better.

It's not just the losing that will do some adjustment but also the winning team.

Ginebra, clearly knows that TNT will make some adjustment that's why they will do some adjustments too once there will be a change of tactics and gameplay by the TNT. Example, if they will see Pogoy or Williams is showing a good performance in Game 1, Ginebra will considered shifting their strategy to contain these two.

True, adjustment is not just from the losing team but also being anticipated by the winning team, Gin kings will observe what's the adjustment and anticipate what might be the good game play to execute to counter TNT's gameplay, though we really can't tell which team will stand up in game 2 after Gin kings won the first game.

Still depending on how the players and the coaches will execute every play that they prepared coming game 2.

Need to deeply analyze and observe the game and, if possible, bet during the live game.
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April 09, 2023, 06:58:32 PM
Anyway, it's like a chess game where the losing team will make some adjustments for them not to lose 2 straight. TNT will bounce back (like always), so maybe betting on them would be a good choice. Cheesy

But if we saw some clear problems that TNT is struggling to do, expect that even they adjust, Ginebra will just do better.

It's not just the losing that will do some adjustment but also the winning team.

Ginebra, clearly knows that TNT will make some adjustment that's why they will do some adjustments too once there will be a change of tactics and gameplay by the TNT. Example, if they will see Pogoy or Williams is showing a good performance in Game 1, Ginebra will considered shifting their strategy to contain these two.
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April 09, 2023, 06:41:13 PM
If only Pogoy shot better, I think the TNT will win.
I'm not blaming him either because there really are times where a shooter will be having a bad night, and it's the same with him.

I think I have pointed out before the "must-need" things that TNT really needs to win against Ginebra in the Finals and one of those is, Pogoy needs to be consistent. Actually, Pogoy is consistent as a whole but sometimes there are really off-nights for him. That's where the problem is because, if Pogoy is having an off-night, TNT doesn't have a thing to fill Pogoy's hole. For that, I won't blame Pogoy but the TNT locals instead.

Adjustment over adjustment but no adjustment happened.

Anyways, just Game 1 of the series and we'll see if that supposed adjustments by TNT will be seen next game.
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April 09, 2023, 04:32:59 PM
Expecting that TNT will bring everything here and will compete with high morale using the crowd's cheers for the opponents as a good boost to lift the spirit of winning the game.

All will depend on how both teams will perform later. The odd is close @1.78 for Gin kings and @1.96 for TNT.

The crowd is a big help indeed as this game is on the bag for Ginebra with them leading by 18 points with 8 minutes to go.

Though Gray having an off night as he shoots 1 out of 14 from the field but Malonzo is having a spectacular night helping Brownlee produce points for the Kings.

Cstand, the leading candidate for BPC is having his usual number with 14 points at the moment.

Like i said i would be rooting for the Katropa on game2, hope the bookies will still put them as the underdog.
If only Pogoy shot better, I think the TNT will win.
I'm not blaming him either because there really are times where a shooter will be having a bad night, and it's the same with him.

However, being like that for 2 straight games will be a disaster for them, and it's the PBA Finals already. They don't want Pogoy to play like that again, and I don't also think that Pogoy will play like that again in Game 2. As usual, the 2 imports fought each other very well. Brownlee with 31 points and 12 rebounds while Hollis-Jefferson got 30 points and 20 rebounds. Both imports played well. It's just that the Ginebra locals played better than those of TNT that's why they won.

Anyway, it's like a chess game where the losing team will make some adjustments for them not to lose 2 straight. TNT will bounce back (like always), so maybe betting on them would be a good choice. Cheesy
After watching the game 1 it looks like Ginebra are more dominant and they are able to adjust, if there’s no points inside they throw the ball for three and they get it while TNT are still not able to adjust during the game. I also believe that TNT will bounce back and their key players will have more playing time because it will not be easy if they let Ginebra to take another win. Game 7 probably are possible, TNT have to bounce back here.
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April 09, 2023, 02:44:04 PM

For me, predicting the winner of the first game of this series is so hard because like I have said before that this is a 50-50 series and either team could become a champion so I'll just wait for the result and bet on game2 as the loser will surely adjust and have the high chance of winning game2.

That's right, it may be a good strategy to bet on the team that lost in game 1, and then double down if they still lose in game 2. For sure, no team in this series will have an advantage of 3-0. This series will likely be a close one in my opinion, and it could potentially go to game 7 as the crowd loves to support Ginebra, and maybe they will take the game in the Philippine Arena again.

Well, I think that in terms of keeping the game more intense, both teams would let a game 7 to happen since more games would make more presence and more advertisements. I agree that it is a close fight but as someone whose majority of people around me tend to favor the Ginebra team, I adapt to their knowledge on these game. They believe that the Ginebra would get that win. Also, they are the ones who says that game 7 would most likely to happen and that there is some kind of alternation of the team winnings so that game 7 would exist. This is just a speculation, but is is fascinating to see it happen.
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April 09, 2023, 10:17:28 AM
Expecting that TNT will bring everything here and will compete with high morale using the crowd's cheers for the opponents as a good boost to lift the spirit of winning the game.

All will depend on how both teams will perform later. The odd is close @1.78 for Gin kings and @1.96 for TNT.

The crowd is a big help indeed as this game is on the bag for Ginebra with them leading by 18 points with 8 minutes to go.

Though Gray having an off night as he shoots 1 out of 14 from the field but Malonzo is having a spectacular night helping Brownlee produce points for the Kings.

Cstand, the leading candidate for BPC is having his usual number with 14 points at the moment.

Like i said i would be rooting for the Katropa on game2, hope the bookies will still put them as the underdog.
If only Pogoy shot better, I think the TNT will win.
I'm not blaming him either because there really are times where a shooter will be having a bad night, and it's the same with him.

However, being like that for 2 straight games will be a disaster for them, and it's the PBA Finals already. They don't want Pogoy to play like that again, and I don't also think that Pogoy will play like that again in Game 2. As usual, the 2 imports fought each other very well. Brownlee with 31 points and 12 rebounds while Hollis-Jefferson got 30 points and 20 rebounds. Both imports played well. It's just that the Ginebra locals played better than those of TNT that's why they won.

Anyway, it's like a chess game where the losing team will make some adjustments for them not to lose 2 straight. TNT will bounce back (like always), so maybe betting on them would be a good choice. Cheesy
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April 09, 2023, 07:15:57 AM
Expecting that TNT will bring everything here and will compete with high morale using the crowd's cheers for the opponents as a good boost to lift the spirit of winning the game.

All will depend on how both teams will perform later. The odd is close @1.78 for Gin kings and @1.96 for TNT.

The crowd is a big help indeed as this game is on the bag for Ginebra with them leading by 18 points with 8 minutes to go.

Though Gray having an off night as he shoots 1 out of 14 from the field but Malonzo is having a spectacular night helping Brownlee produce points for the Kings.

Cstand, the leading candidate for BPC is having his usual number with 14 points at the moment.

Like i said i would be rooting for the Katropa on game2, hope the bookies will still put them as the underdog.
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April 09, 2023, 04:27:54 AM
Tomorrow is the day the game one between barangay Genibra vs TNT Tropang Giga and this is the most awaited part for this season. Now there an odd and we all know that not just far aways so we can put our bet. Good luck for our favorite teams.  For barangay I think they have already the the power to win the match and prove that they will be the champion the peoples choices. But for sure TNT will break them and steal the crown .

We can only say that Gin kings have the numbers as we can support it by the stats they've got but remember that TNT beats them in the elimination / regular season, but for sure it's just adding some opinion in the back of my mind I also believe that Gin kings got the upper hand here.

Expecting that TNT will bring everything here and will compete with high morale using the crowd's cheers for the opponents as a good boost to lift the spirit of winning the game.

All will depend on how both teams will perform later. The odd is close @1.78 for Gin kings and @1.96 for TNT.
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April 08, 2023, 10:30:39 AM
Tomorrow is the day the game one between barangay Genibra vs TNT Tropang Giga and this is the most awaited part for this season. Now there an odd and we all know that not just far aways so we can put our bet. Good luck for our favorite teams.  For barangay I think they have already the the power to win the match and prove that they will be the champion the peoples choices. But for sure TNT will break them and steal the crown .
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April 08, 2023, 07:00:47 AM
The odds for game 1 are out, so it's wise to bet early if you don't want to miss out on the opportunity of getting good odds.

The current odds are: Ginebra at 1.85 and TNT at 1.92. This may come as a surprise to some, as they expected Ginebra to be a slight favorite. However, let's enjoy the current spread, which is really good for Ginebra fans.

About the game tomorrow, it will start at 6:00 PM
This could be an exciting way to celebrate the holy Sunday, let's see who will take the game 1.
As i've decided, will not bet on game 1 until I finally watch the whole game and speculate for game 2. Ginebra is always the favorite team to win, there's no doubt about that what surprise me is that, the spread is not that high and TNT is still on a good side here. Exciting game 1 indeed.
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April 08, 2023, 05:49:45 AM
Meanwhile I have read rumors that SMB big man Fajardo is on the trading block, do you guys have any thought on this rumor?

I have read that too but I'm not buying it as I believed, Fajardo will retire as a Beermen and will never have the same journey on the other Death Five.

Fajardo is a heavily considered already a franchise player, a future Hall of Famer and possibly, the PBA's goat.

I don't see him being traded to other team, I'm sure of that.

Yeah it is he can be consider as franchise player but PBA is heavily business league and they might not care about his presence if they think they can get young stars in their team. There are rumors release so provably there are leak information about this so I guess they can possibly trade him like what they did on Santos and Cabagnot which give good contribution for SMB to get championships on their team.
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April 08, 2023, 05:42:08 AM
The odds for game 1 are out, so it's wise to bet early if you don't want to miss out on the opportunity of getting good odds.

The current odds are: Ginebra at 1.85 and TNT at 1.92. This may come as a surprise to some, as they expected Ginebra to be a slight favorite. However, let's enjoy the current spread, which is really good for Ginebra fans.

About the game tomorrow, it will start at 6:00 PM
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April 07, 2023, 06:57:07 PM
Meanwhile I have read rumors that SMB big man Fajardo is on the trading block, do you guys have any thought on this rumor?

I have read that too but I'm not buying it as I believed, Fajardo will retire as a Beermen and will never have the same journey on the other Death Five.

Fajardo is a heavily considered already a franchise player, a future Hall of Famer and possibly, the PBA's goat.

I don't see him being traded to other team, I'm sure of that.
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April 07, 2023, 06:11:40 PM
Game 7 might not be ideal if Ginebra wants to take this championship, because TNT will be more deadly this finals for sure and Ginebra should be more greedy as much as possible. I'm placing my bet to Ginebra, they usually win the game 1 and I know they can make it again. This is gambling after all, there's a risk and anything can happen so be ready for the result and yes just enjoy this finals.
Both teams will be more eager to win, so its possible for a game 7 but let's stop the rumors about making more money that's why they are pushing the game up to game 7, this is a different team and as we all know TNT are more eager to take the championship away from Ginebra. Game 1 is all about speculation, TNT have to prepare while Ginebra needs to be more consistent. I'll go for Ginebra in game 1 as well after watching the previous game between TNT and Ginebra, for sure Ginebra wants to bounce back from that loss.

Backing Ginebra in the first game is a good idea since they have the crowd advantage and it is a Sunday so we expect a sellout here even if it's only game1. Japeth Aguilar will not be playing according to reports but the emergence of Gray and Malonzo is a big boost to Ginebra's campaign this conference so yeah it's a good pick.

Meanwhile I have read rumors that SMB big man Fajardo is on the trading block, do you guys have any thought on this rumor?
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April 07, 2023, 11:23:07 AM

For me, predicting the winner of the first game of this series is so hard because like I have said before that this is a 50-50 series and either team could become a champion so I'll just wait for the result and bet on game2 as the loser will surely adjust and have the high chance of winning game2.

That's right, it may be a good strategy to bet on the team that lost in game 1, and then double down if they still lose in game 2. For sure, no team in this series will have an advantage of 3-0. This series will likely be a close one in my opinion, and it could potentially go to game 7 as the crowd loves to support Ginebra, and maybe they will take the game in the Philippine Arena again.

Ginebra should always be in the finals, as only this team makes the business profitable. You can tell that people are not interested in watching the game without Ginebra. So, I would not be surprised if they also get some favor from the refs. The thing is, they are already a good team and at the same time still getting the favor, which is a sure win for this team.

And yes, it's a great strategy to do some double bets because in the PBA, anything is possible.

And since this is the finals, there will be no more sweeps. That's a guarantee

Something that might be needed to assess once the series already started, as a fan, Gin kings will be the favorite here from the fans but in a betting odds whoever wins the first game will be the underdog in the second game, just an opinion though, we really can't tell which will be the system that bookies will use to bring odds to the bettors.

But in business side, chances that we will see a game 7 might happen as TNT is also a competitive squad who can bring a good fight against the Gin kings.

Martingale might work here if you can spare some money to bet in each game in the series.
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April 07, 2023, 09:42:38 AM
Game 7 might not be ideal if Ginebra wants to take this championship, because TNT will be more deadly this finals for sure and Ginebra should be more greedy as much as possible. I'm placing my bet to Ginebra, they usually win the game 1 and I know they can make it again. This is gambling after all, there's a risk and anything can happen so be ready for the result and yes just enjoy this finals.
Both teams will be more eager to win, so its possible for a game 7 but let's stop the rumors about making more money that's why they are pushing the game up to game 7, this is a different team and as we all know TNT are more eager to take the championship away from Ginebra. Game 1 is all about speculation, TNT have to prepare while Ginebra needs to be more consistent. I'll go for Ginebra in game 1 as well after watching the previous game between TNT and Ginebra, for sure Ginebra wants to bounce back from that loss.
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April 07, 2023, 08:46:20 AM

For me, predicting the winner of the first game of this series is so hard because like I have said before that this is a 50-50 series and either team could become a champion so I'll just wait for the result and bet on game2 as the loser will surely adjust and have the high chance of winning game2.

That's right, it may be a good strategy to bet on the team that lost in game 1, and then double down if they still lose in game 2. For sure, no team in this series will have an advantage of 3-0. This series will likely be a close one in my opinion, and it could potentially go to game 7 as the crowd loves to support Ginebra, and maybe they will take the game in the Philippine Arena again.
That could be a great place to watch PBA finals, and for sure this will be an exciting one.
I'll not place a bet for now, since its really hard to tell who will take the game 1. Of course there's a huge hype for Ginebra as always but looking at TNT played the whole conference, you can see a different TNT and a huge chance for them to have a great win here. I'll just analyze the game 1 and see if there's a good opportunity in game 2. It's all about the risk, game 1 is always a hard one.
Game 7 might not be ideal if Ginebra wants to take this championship, because TNT will be more deadly this finals for sure and Ginebra should be more greedy as much as possible. I'm placing my bet to Ginebra, they usually win the game 1 and I know they can make it again. This is gambling after all, there's a risk and anything can happen so be ready for the result and yes just enjoy this finals.
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