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Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2023, 07:59:49 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 06, 2023, 02:51:23 PM

For me, predicting the winner of the first game of this series is so hard because like I have said before that this is a 50-50 series and either team could become a champion so I'll just wait for the result and bet on game2 as the loser will surely adjust and have the high chance of winning game2.

That's right, it may be a good strategy to bet on the team that lost in game 1, and then double down if they still lose in game 2. For sure, no team in this series will have an advantage of 3-0. This series will likely be a close one in my opinion, and it could potentially go to game 7 as the crowd loves to support Ginebra, and maybe they will take the game in the Philippine Arena again.

That could be a great place to watch PBA finals, and for sure this will be an exciting one.
I'll not place a bet for now, since its really hard to tell who will take the game 1. Of course there's a huge hype for Ginebra as always but looking at TNT played the whole conference, you can see a different TNT and a huge chance for them to have a great win here. I'll just analyze the game 1 and see if there's a good opportunity in game 2. It's all about the risk, game 1 is always a hard one.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2023, 07:59:49 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 06, 2023, 02:51:23 PM

For me, predicting the winner of the first game of this series is so hard because like I have said before that this is a 50-50 series and either team could become a champion so I'll just wait for the result and bet on game2 as the loser will surely adjust and have the high chance of winning game2.

That's right, it may be a good strategy to bet on the team that lost in game 1, and then double down if they still lose in game 2. For sure, no team in this series will have an advantage of 3-0. This series will likely be a close one in my opinion, and it could potentially go to game 7 as the crowd loves to support Ginebra, and maybe they will take the game in the Philippine Arena again.

Ginebra should always be in the finals, as only this team makes the business profitable. You can tell that people are not interested in watching the game without Ginebra. So, I would not be surprised if they also get some favor from the refs. The thing is, they are already a good team and at the same time still getting the favor, which is a sure win for this team.

And yes, it's a great strategy to do some double bets because in the PBA, anything is possible.

And since this is the finals, there will be no more sweeps. That's a guarantee

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 06, 2023, 02:51:23 PM

For me, predicting the winner of the first game of this series is so hard because like I have said before that this is a 50-50 series and either team could become a champion so I'll just wait for the result and bet on game2 as the loser will surely adjust and have the high chance of winning game2.

That's right, it may be a good strategy to bet on the team that lost in game 1, and then double down if they still lose in game 2. For sure, no team in this series will have an advantage of 3-0. This series will likely be a close one in my opinion, and it could potentially go to game 7 as the crowd loves to support Ginebra, and maybe they will take the game in the Philippine Arena again.

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Quote from: Shamm on April 06, 2023, 10:28:07 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on April 05, 2023, 09:19:54 PM

Quote from: Botnake on April 05, 2023, 08:06:27 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 05, 2023, 09:35:54 AM

Gin kings have all the upper hands here. If they will really push personally, they can also sweep TNT, just saying.

That seems a bit harsh. I don't think it's likely that Ginebra will sweep TNT, as they are a competitive team with players like Jason Castro and a good import. Additionally, Mikey Williams is always capable of providing a spark for the team. It will be an exciting and competitive series for sure.

Both teams have had a big break before the Finals. They should be fully prepared for their first game this coming Sunday. Although it's difficult to predict the outcome, Sunday's game is sure to have plenty of fans watching, particularly the Ginebra game. Since this is the Finals, the team can expect huge support, so I believe that Ginebra will likely win Game 1.

For sure that both team's are now preparing for their first game in the finals as we can see that they have 1 week to prepare and that is enough for them as we all know that both team are have a strong lineup of the players and by the help their imports they will be more aggressive and confident. And in my own in Sunday I have the gots that Baranggay Ginebra will win the first game.

For me, predicting the winner of the first game of this series is so hard because like I have said before that this is a 50-50 series and either team could become a champion so I'll just wait for the result and bet on game2 as the loser will surely adjust and have the high chance of winning game2.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 05, 2023, 09:19:54 PM

Quote from: Botnake on April 05, 2023, 08:06:27 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 05, 2023, 09:35:54 AM

Gin kings have all the upper hands here. If they will really push personally, they can also sweep TNT, just saying.

That seems a bit harsh. I don't think it's likely that Ginebra will sweep TNT, as they are a competitive team with players like Jason Castro and a good import. Additionally, Mikey Williams is always capable of providing a spark for the team. It will be an exciting and competitive series for sure.

Both teams have had a big break before the Finals. They should be fully prepared for their first game this coming Sunday. Although it's difficult to predict the outcome, Sunday's game is sure to have plenty of fans watching, particularly the Ginebra game. Since this is the Finals, the team can expect huge support, so I believe that Ginebra will likely win Game 1.

For sure that both team's are now preparing for their first game in the finals as we can see that they have 1 week to prepare and that is enough for them as we all know that both team are have a strong lineup of the players and by the help their imports they will be more aggressive and confident. And in my own in Sunday I have the gots that Baranggay Ginebra will win the first game.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 06, 2023, 07:28:37 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2023, 06:55:40 AM

Quote from: Natalim on April 05, 2023, 10:33:19 PM

I believe a spread of -2.5 for Ginebra would be reasonable. It's already tempting, and they should be able to cover that if they win.

The last time they played, I think the odds for the money line were almost even, or TNT was a slight favorite, if I recall correctly. So, there's no reason to change that, as TNT won their last meeting, making them likely the favorite in game 1. The odds will probably change after the game. Sometimes, it's difficult to predict how bookmakers set the odds. For example, if TNT is the slight favorite in game 1 and they win, do you think they will have the same spread in game 2? No, because Ginebra will likely be the favorite in game 2.

If your opinion is correct, then I'm sure there will be satisfied bettors who will take the money line odds for game 1. Many fans are rooting for Ginebra to win, which I think is justified because they are currently the best team in the PBA. Ginebra is likely to win the series, but it's uncertain if they will take game 1. Betting on the game is a bit of a gamble, but as long as you enjoy watching the game, a small bet is not a big issue.

Many is rooting as we know that Gin kings always have the Brgy behind them, but for sure there are bettors who will wait for how the bookies will offer their odds, I'm pretty sure that even they like Gin kings to win the series but money wise they will still follow the pattern that they are using to predict the possible outcome of each game.

Hard to say if how both teams will come up with their game plan and how the players will execute when playing against their opponents.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2023, 06:55:40 AM

Quote from: Natalim on April 05, 2023, 10:33:19 PM

I believe a spread of -2.5 for Ginebra would be reasonable. It's already tempting, and they should be able to cover that if they win.

The last time they played, I think the odds for the money line were almost even, or TNT was a slight favorite, if I recall correctly. So, there's no reason to change that, as TNT won their last meeting, making them likely the favorite in game 1. The odds will probably change after the game. Sometimes, it's difficult to predict how bookmakers set the odds. For example, if TNT is the slight favorite in game 1 and they win, do you think they will have the same spread in game 2? No, because Ginebra will likely be the favorite in game 2.

If your opinion is correct, then I'm sure there will be satisfied bettors who will take the money line odds for game 1. Many fans are rooting for Ginebra to win, which I think is justified because they are currently the best team in the PBA. Ginebra is likely to win the series, but it's uncertain if they will take game 1. Betting on the game is a bit of a gamble, but as long as you enjoy watching the game, a small bet is not a big issue.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 05, 2023, 10:33:19 PM

I believe a spread of -2.5 for Ginebra would be reasonable. It's already tempting, and they should be able to cover that if they win.

The last time they played, I think the odds for the money line were almost even, or TNT was a slight favorite, if I recall correctly. So, there's no reason to change that, as TNT won their last meeting, making them likely the favorite in game 1. The odds will probably change after the game. Sometimes, it's difficult to predict how bookmakers set the odds. For example, if TNT is the slight favorite in game 1 and they win, do you think they will have the same spread in game 2? No, because Ginebra will likely be the favorite in game 2.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 05, 2023, 09:19:54 PM

Quote from: Botnake on April 05, 2023, 08:06:27 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 05, 2023, 09:35:54 AM

Gin kings have all the upper hands here. If they will really push personally, they can also sweep TNT, just saying.

That seems a bit harsh. I don't think it's likely that Ginebra will sweep TNT, as they are a competitive team with players like Jason Castro and a good import. Additionally, Mikey Williams is always capable of providing a spark for the team. It will be an exciting and competitive series for sure.

Both teams have had a big break before the Finals. They should be fully prepared for their first game this coming Sunday. Although it's difficult to predict the outcome, Sunday's game is sure to have plenty of fans watching, particularly the Ginebra game. Since this is the Finals, the team can expect huge support, so I believe that Ginebra will likely win Game 1.

Regardless of the spread, Ginebra should be the pick for Game 1. I don't think Ginebra will be favored by more than four points in this game, as that would be disrespectful to TNT, who beat them before the Finals. I believe a spread of -2.5 for Ginebra would be reasonable. It's already tempting, and they should be able to cover that if they win.

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Quote from: Botnake on April 05, 2023, 08:06:27 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 05, 2023, 09:35:54 AM

Gin kings have all the upper hands here. If they will really push personally, they can also sweep TNT, just saying.

That seems a bit harsh. I don't think it's likely that Ginebra will sweep TNT, as they are a competitive team with players like Jason Castro and a good import. Additionally, Mikey Williams is always capable of providing a spark for the team. It will be an exciting and competitive series for sure.

Both teams have had a big break before the Finals. They should be fully prepared for their first game this coming Sunday. Although it's difficult to predict the outcome, Sunday's game is sure to have plenty of fans watching, particularly the Ginebra game. Since this is the Finals, the team can expect huge support, so I believe that Ginebra will likely win Game 1.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 05, 2023, 09:35:54 AM

Gin kings have all the upper hands here. If they will really push personally, they can also sweep TNT, just saying.

That seems a bit harsh. I don't think it's likely that Ginebra will sweep TNT, as they are a competitive team with players like Jason Castro and a good import. Additionally, Mikey Williams is always capable of providing a spark for the team. It will be an exciting and competitive series for sure.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 05, 2023, 07:03:17 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on April 05, 2023, 06:22:56 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 04, 2023, 09:02:23 AM

I look forward to both TNT and Gin kings to bring this series to a do-or-die game 7!

Although it would be exciting to see this series go all the way to Game 7, in that scenario, we would need the help of the refs to ensure a level playing field - just kidding! We know which team is better, so if Ginebra plays to their full potential and the game is officiated fairly, there's no doubt that we won't even see a Game 7.

Let's not worry about the past; this finals could be different, LOL! Ginebra beat a strong team in the last conference, and they dominated them in Game 7. Comparing that team to TNT, I don't think they are better than the Bay Area Dragon. So, if we use that as a reference, we already know which team will win. My prediction is, Ginebra minimum at 5, and max at 6.

If basing the current squad and the full force game executions, I can say that Gin king can win in game 5 or 6 don't want to be killjoy here but we know that PBA is a business and if there's a chance of seeing the do-or-die it will be PBA that will benefits a lot. But let's not dwell on that and just wait and expect for fair calls and greatness between these two finalists.

Gin kings have all the upper hands here. If they will really push personally, they can also sweep TNT, just saying.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 04, 2023, 08:03:31 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 04, 2023, 01:26:51 AM

Quote from: Questat on April 03, 2023, 10:42:53 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 03, 2023, 10:32:00 PM

CStand and Aguilar are twin towers of the TNT and with that, they might be forced to put 2 big to defend the paint. It's good that the TNT has many good players who can just step up offensively when needed.

Ginebra has the advantage inside the paint with the return of Aguilar, giving them an added boost. On the other hand, TNT needs to focus on their accurate 3-point shooting, as it will be their main weapon in winning the series.

While TNT has good outside shooters, Ginebra also has talented shooters who can defend well. Ginebra has an advantage in terms of size as their starters are taller and known for their strong defense. This is an opportunity for C. Stand to display his skills, including his passing ability and improved free throw percentage. If Ginebra wins the series, he may become the Finals MVP again as he is nearly unstoppable.

With Japeth Aguilar back, C. Stand's production might be limited a bit, but his confidence is so high that it seems he's ready to battle aggressively to win the series. In terms of physicality, I believe Ginebra will have the edge, but the speculation surrounding the upcoming game remains to be seen, as TNT is also a formidable team.

If I'm the coach, I'd rather focus on CStand more on the offensive side, and let Japeth do his role as the defender and the rebounder. Standhardinger is very efficient in offense, and his craftiness to shoot, and his circus shots are almost impossible to stop. The only problem with him is his free throw shooting which is kind of awkward if you will ask me.

I also don't think that Japeth will be given more time especially when Coach Tim Cone see that Standhardinger is doing his job, and his team is leading. Maybe if only the TNT will put 2 big players on the court then that's the time that Coach Tim Cone will put them at the same time. In their last game in the final game of the eliminations, TNT beat Ginebra, and it just shows that they are capable of defeating them. There might be some who are rooting on Ginebra already because of how they played in their last games, but let's not forget that the TNT is also a formidable team like you said, and they will not get a 10-1 record if they aren't that strong. Let's just see how both teams play, and I hope there are no spoilers on this series like injuries whatsoever.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 04, 2023, 01:26:51 AM

Quote from: Questat on April 03, 2023, 10:42:53 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 03, 2023, 10:32:00 PM

CStand and Aguilar are twin towers of the TNT and with that, they might be forced to put 2 big to defend the paint. It's good that the TNT has many good players who can just step up offensively when needed.

Ginebra has the advantage inside the paint with the return of Aguilar, giving them an added boost. On the other hand, TNT needs to focus on their accurate 3-point shooting, as it will be their main weapon in winning the series.

While TNT has good outside shooters, Ginebra also has talented shooters who can defend well. Ginebra has an advantage in terms of size as their starters are taller and known for their strong defense. This is an opportunity for C. Stand to display his skills, including his passing ability and improved free throw percentage. If Ginebra wins the series, he may become the Finals MVP again as he is nearly unstoppable.

Most of the advantages belong to Ginebra, but since this is a 7-game series, the team that can make the right adjustments will likely win. Ginebra has the better roster and coach, which gives us a clue as to which team may win, but as gamblers believe, the ball is round and we cannot guarantee a winner.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 05, 2023, 06:22:56 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 04, 2023, 09:02:23 AM

I look forward to both TNT and Gin kings to bring this series to a do-or-die game 7!

Although it would be exciting to see this series go all the way to Game 7, in that scenario, we would need the help of the refs to ensure a level playing field - just kidding! We know which team is better, so if Ginebra plays to their full potential and the game is officiated fairly, there's no doubt that we won't even see a Game 7.

Let's not worry about the past; this finals could be different, LOL! Ginebra beat a strong team in the last conference, and they dominated them in Game 7. Comparing that team to TNT, I don't think they are better than the Bay Area Dragon. So, if we use that as a reference, we already know which team will win. My prediction is, Ginebra minimum at 5, and max at 6.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 04, 2023, 09:02:23 AM

I look forward to both TNT and Gin kings to bring this series to a do-or-die game 7!

Although it would be exciting to see this series go all the way to Game 7, in that scenario, we would need the help of the refs to ensure a level playing field - just kidding! We know which team is better, so if Ginebra plays to their full potential and the game is officiated fairly, there's no doubt that we won't even see a Game 7.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 04, 2023, 08:03:31 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 04, 2023, 01:26:51 AM

Quote from: Questat on April 03, 2023, 10:42:53 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 03, 2023, 10:32:00 PM

CStand and Aguilar are twin towers of the TNT and with that, they might be forced to put 2 big to defend the paint. It's good that the TNT has many good players who can just step up offensively when needed.

Ginebra has the advantage inside the paint with the return of Aguilar, giving them an added boost. On the other hand, TNT needs to focus on their accurate 3-point shooting, as it will be their main weapon in winning the series.

While TNT has good outside shooters, Ginebra also has talented shooters who can defend well. Ginebra has an advantage in terms of size as their starters are taller and known for their strong defense. This is an opportunity for C. Stand to display his skills, including his passing ability and improved free throw percentage. If Ginebra wins the series, he may become the Finals MVP again as he is nearly unstoppable.

With Japeth Aguilar back, C. Stand's production might be limited a bit, but his confidence is so high that it seems he's ready to battle aggressively to win the series. In terms of physicality, I believe Ginebra will have the edge, but the speculation surrounding the upcoming game remains to be seen, as TNT is also a formidable team.

We might have seen two towers inside together with JBL, Thompson and either Grey or Malonzo a fighting cores that will lead the Gin kings in this upcoming series, while with TNT, Poguy,Williams, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Castro and Erram might be the squad that will collide against the Gin kings core, a good competition between the former head coach and his team captain.

Expecting both teams to showcase every talent that they've got to win the series. A game of executions and a good game plan from a game after game series.

I look forward to both TNT and Gin kings to bring this series to a do-or-die game 7!

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 04, 2023, 08:03:31 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 04, 2023, 01:26:51 AM

Quote from: Questat on April 03, 2023, 10:42:53 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 03, 2023, 10:32:00 PM

CStand and Aguilar are twin towers of the TNT and with that, they might be forced to put 2 big to defend the paint. It's good that the TNT has many good players who can just step up offensively when needed.

Ginebra has the advantage inside the paint with the return of Aguilar, giving them an added boost. On the other hand, TNT needs to focus on their accurate 3-point shooting, as it will be their main weapon in winning the series.

While TNT has good outside shooters, Ginebra also has talented shooters who can defend well. Ginebra has an advantage in terms of size as their starters are taller and known for their strong defense. This is an opportunity for C. Stand to display his skills, including his passing ability and improved free throw percentage. If Ginebra wins the series, he may become the Finals MVP again as he is nearly unstoppable.

With Japeth Aguilar back, C. Stand's production might be limited a bit, but his confidence is so high that it seems he's ready to battle aggressively to win the series. In terms of physicality, I believe Ginebra will have the edge, but the speculation surrounding the upcoming game remains to be seen, as TNT is also a formidable team.

Both teams are so good in terms of lineup and what like you said when japeth is back Cstand and him are limited but I think this is not going to be a barrier as we all know both players can do the same thing and for the TNT tropang GIga they have a good lineup as well their import can compete to brownlee and for sure we can see a perfect match. Their local also have a potential to compete with barangay Ginebras player.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 04, 2023, 01:26:51 AM

Quote from: Questat on April 03, 2023, 10:42:53 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 03, 2023, 10:32:00 PM

CStand and Aguilar are twin towers of the TNT and with that, they might be forced to put 2 big to defend the paint. It's good that the TNT has many good players who can just step up offensively when needed.

Ginebra has the advantage inside the paint with the return of Aguilar, giving them an added boost. On the other hand, TNT needs to focus on their accurate 3-point shooting, as it will be their main weapon in winning the series.

While TNT has good outside shooters, Ginebra also has talented shooters who can defend well. Ginebra has an advantage in terms of size as their starters are taller and known for their strong defense. This is an opportunity for C. Stand to display his skills, including his passing ability and improved free throw percentage. If Ginebra wins the series, he may become the Finals MVP again as he is nearly unstoppable.

With Japeth Aguilar back, C. Stand's production might be limited a bit, but his confidence is so high that it seems he's ready to battle aggressively to win the series. In terms of physicality, I believe Ginebra will have the edge, but the speculation surrounding the upcoming game remains to be seen, as TNT is also a formidable team.

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Quote from: Questat on April 03, 2023, 10:42:53 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 03, 2023, 10:32:00 PM

CStand and Aguilar are twin towers of the TNT and with that, they might be forced to put 2 big to defend the paint. It's good that the TNT has many good players who can just step up offensively when needed.

Ginebra has the advantage inside the paint with the return of Aguilar, giving them an added boost. On the other hand, TNT needs to focus on their accurate 3-point shooting, as it will be their main weapon in winning the series.

While TNT has good outside shooters, Ginebra also has talented shooters who can defend well. Ginebra has an advantage in terms of size as their starters are taller and known for their strong defense. This is an opportunity for C. Stand to display his skills, including his passing ability and improved free throw percentage. If Ginebra wins the series, he may become the Finals MVP again as he is nearly unstoppable.

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