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Quote from: Fredomago on December 11, 2024, 05:43:51 AM

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 10, 2024, 10:35:55 PM

Like you, I also lost my bet, and I really thought that they would win it since it's a close game, but not until we reached the 4th quarter, and they got outscored 37-21. Anyway, that's part of the game. Sometimes unexpected things happen and TBH, it's good to see an independent team like ROS battling toe-to-toe against teams like SMB and other big teams. They have a good coach, and I also hope that this roster of them will be intact and will develop furthermore so that they can compete with SMC and MVP teams.

I think ROS has become a serious threat to other teams now. With Coach Yeng back, he’s clearly made the team better. Their guards are very quick, love to run, and don’t hesitate to take shots. On top of that, they have a solid import who fits perfectly into their system.

As for SMB, it’s just not their time. They’ve lost some key crunch-time players, and maybe if they had kept Romeo, they’d have better offensive options. Also, CJ’s performance seems to be declining, I don't know, maybe it might be a coaching issue. Just my observation.

Yeah, I noticed them last season though they've felt short on that campaign but interest from the fans is already with them, now that they continue playing as one and with the import who manages to play accordingly, he really helping those young guns to feel that confidence knowing that a big guy is their to help and willing to do everything to win.

In terms of success, let’s see how far they can go this conference, But i have to be honest, I don’t see them as a championship team just yet, so they might struggle in the playoffs due to a lack of experience. However, I’m not ruling out the possibility of them making it to the finals.

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In terms of SMB, I'm bias as I love seeing TR7 playing but with how coach Gallent misuse him and now struggling to build that good chemistries and performances from each players that he have, might be best for the main SMC franchise to consider replacing him either bring back coach Leo or find a new one who got something new to offer for the betterment of this franchise.

yeah, I see the same and I think I'm also bias. how can they not utilize Romeo, he is a true champ, had won a finals MVP and shine during international competition. I now miss coach Leo.

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Anyway, on the games today, the first game was concluded and TNT finally snap their losing streak in a thrilling passion. They beat Magnolia by 3 points only.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 11, 2024, 12:05:10 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 10, 2024, 10:35:55 PM

Like you, I also lost my bet, and I really thought that they would win it since it's a close game, but not until we reached the 4th quarter, and they got outscored 37-21. Anyway, that's part of the game. Sometimes unexpected things happen and TBH, it's good to see an independent team like ROS battling toe-to-toe against teams like SMB and other big teams. They have a good coach, and I also hope that this roster of them will be intact and will develop furthermore so that they can compete with SMC and MVP teams.

I think ROS has become a serious threat to other teams now. With Coach Yeng back, he’s clearly made the team better. Their guards are very quick, love to run, and don’t hesitate to take shots. On top of that, they have a solid import who fits perfectly into their system.

As for SMB, it’s just not their time. They’ve lost some key crunch-time players, and maybe if they had kept Romeo, they’d have better offensive options. Also, CJ’s performance seems to be declining, I don't know, maybe it might be a coaching issue. Just my observation.

Yeah, I noticed them last season though they've felt short on that campaign but interest from the fans is already with them, now that they continue playing as one and with the import who manages to play accordingly, he really helping those young guns to feel that confidence knowing that a big guy is their to help and willing to do everything to win.

In terms of SMB, I'm bias as I love seeing TR7 playing but with how coach Gallent misuse him and now struggling to build that good chemistries and performances from each players that he have, might be best for the main SMC franchise to consider replacing him either bring back coach Leo or find a new one who got something new to offer for the betterment of this franchise.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 10, 2024, 10:35:55 PM

Like you, I also lost my bet, and I really thought that they would win it since it's a close game, but not until we reached the 4th quarter, and they got outscored 37-21. Anyway, that's part of the game. Sometimes unexpected things happen and TBH, it's good to see an independent team like ROS battling toe-to-toe against teams like SMB and other big teams. They have a good coach, and I also hope that this roster of them will be intact and will develop furthermore so that they can compete with SMC and MVP teams.

I think ROS has become a serious threat to other teams now. With Coach Yeng back, he’s clearly made the team better. Their guards are very quick, love to run, and don’t hesitate to take shots. On top of that, they have a solid import who fits perfectly into their system.

As for SMB, it’s just not their time. They’ve lost some key crunch-time players, and maybe if they had kept Romeo, they’d have better offensive options. Also, CJ’s performance seems to be declining, I don't know, maybe it might be a coaching issue. Just my observation.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 10, 2024, 09:53:29 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2024, 05:15:10 AM

Good luck kabayan with how SMB performing right now it's a tough call betting for them especially with a handicap, though there's no doubt they are still superior in terms of stats but we all know how this young ROS playing the game, they can upset whoever their opponents once those young guns starts to fuel up the intensity of the game increase.

Though there's no guarantee or there's no sure thing here both squad can spark up and dominate the game, let's see if who's going to takeover and win.. Good luck again Kabayan!

And i lost my bet there kabayan. Rain or Sine outgunned the Beermen in the 2nd half with the import of SMB not playing well. I thought i got a good odds there with low handicap but it turned out to be a trap. Part of the game, no regret but definitely i will be staying away from betting on the Beermen for now.

With only 12 points, that's what we aren't expecting to an import especially with Quincy Miller who for me has been very consistent in scoring during his stint in Converge a few seasons ago. In a conference where there's an import, his performance in every game has a huge impact towards the success of the team.

Like you, I also lost my bet, and I really thought that they would win it since it's a close game, but not until we reached the 4th quarter, and they got outscored 37-21. Anyway, that's part of the game. Sometimes unexpected things happen and TBH, it's good to see an independent team like ROS battling toe-to-toe against teams like SMB and other big teams. They have a good coach, and I also hope that this roster of them will be intact and will develop furthermore so that they can compete with SMC and MVP teams.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2024, 05:15:10 AM

Good luck kabayan with how SMB performing right now it's a tough call betting for them especially with a handicap, though there's no doubt they are still superior in terms of stats but we all know how this young ROS playing the game, they can upset whoever their opponents once those young guns starts to fuel up the intensity of the game increase.

Though there's no guarantee or there's no sure thing here both squad can spark up and dominate the game, let's see if who's going to takeover and win.. Good luck again Kabayan!

And i lost my bet there kabayan. Rain or Sine outgunned the Beermen in the 2nd half with the import of SMB not playing well. I thought i got a good odds there with low handicap but it turned out to be a trap. Part of the game, no regret but definitely i will be staying away from betting on the Beermen for now.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 10, 2024, 10:20:43 AM

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SMB is really in trouble now. I thought it was just me falling into the trap, but here we are - another loss. That’s two straight losses for SMB, and it’s mainly because of their import, who’s playing like he’s completely lost on the court. I’m done betting on this team, but I’d be happy to bet against them as long as they keep this import.

It seems like even he’s frustrated, according to the commentators, he ripped his jersey, which might explain why he wasn’t sent back into the game. It’s a tough situation for SMB right now.

Good observation! That’s likely why they aren’t winning now as they failed to secure a solid import. Back then, Quincy Miller played well in the PBA, IIRC. But this time, it seems like he either wasn’t well-prepared or just doesn’t fit with the team’s playstyle. It’s like there’s a chemistry issue, especially since SMB also has new local players.

I can’t blame you for deciding to stop backing them. Better safe than sorry, right?

In gambling even how you idolize the team its still best to think about your money, and with how SMB playing the game I mean the system I think they are still working with all those changes plus the chemistry with their import which most of the time is very important during the game, they need to sync him on how the team playing the system without that knowledge he will continue to struggle.

They are composed of superstars but without the right blend or the right sets of players playing together, it's a big problem or maybe a big challenge as they aren't playing as one.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 10, 2024, 08:56:05 AM

SMB is really in trouble now. I thought it was just me falling into the trap, but here we are - another loss. That’s two straight losses for SMB, and it’s mainly because of their import, who’s playing like he’s completely lost on the court. I’m done betting on this team, but I’d be happy to bet against them as long as they keep this import.

It seems like even he’s frustrated, according to the commentators, he ripped his jersey, which might explain why he wasn’t sent back into the game. It’s a tough situation for SMB right now.

Good observation! That’s likely why they aren’t winning now as they failed to secure a solid import. Back then, Quincy Miller played well in the PBA, IIRC. But this time, it seems like he either wasn’t well-prepared or just doesn’t fit with the team’s playstyle. It’s like there’s a chemistry issue, especially since SMB also has new local players.

I can’t blame you for deciding to stop backing them. Better safe than sorry, right?

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SMB is really in trouble now. I thought it was just me falling into the trap, but here we are - another loss. That’s two straight losses for SMB, and it’s mainly because of their import, who’s playing like he’s completely lost on the court. I’m done betting on this team, but I’d be happy to bet against them as long as they keep this import.

It seems like even he’s frustrated, according to the commentators, he ripped his jersey, which might explain why he wasn’t sent back into the game. It’s a tough situation for SMB right now.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 09, 2024, 10:05:34 PM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on December 09, 2024, 09:03:23 PM

Matches for tomorrow guys, December 11.
I'm kinda worried about the starting games of TNT Tropang Giga, in which they already have 2 losses. We all know they were the champions at the last conference. I know it's still early, and that's why also it's also not good to invest heavily in betting these games right now.

The Katropa is kinda unpredictable these days, that is why i am staying away from betting on them.

Anyways, for tonight's game, only the second game is covered by my favorite bookies, don't know why the don't cover the games of Hong Kong Easterrn.

My bet: SMB -2.5 @1.85 vs ROS

Good luck kabayan with how SMB performing right now it's a tough call betting for them especially with a handicap, though there's no doubt they are still superior in terms of stats but we all know how this young ROS playing the game, they can upset whoever their opponents once those young guns starts to fuel up the intensity of the game increase.

Though there's no guarantee or there's no sure thing here both squad can spark up and dominate the game, let's see if who's going to takeover and win.. Good luck again Kabayan!

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on December 09, 2024, 09:03:23 PM

Matches for tomorrow guys, December 11.
I'm kinda worried about the starting games of TNT Tropang Giga, in which they already have 2 losses. We all know they were the champions at the last conference. I know it's still early, and that's why also it's also not good to invest heavily in betting these games right now.

The Katropa is kinda unpredictable these days, that is why i am staying away from betting on them.

Anyways, for tonight's game, only the second game is covered by my favorite bookies, don't know why the don't cover the games of Hong Kong Easterrn.

My bet: SMB -2.5 @1.85 vs ROS

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Matches for tomorrow guys, December 11.
I'm kinda worried about the starting games of TNT Tropang Giga, in which they already have 2 losses. We all know they were the champions at the last conference. I know it's still early, and that's why also it's also not good to invest heavily in betting these games right now.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 09, 2024, 02:18:42 AM

Quote from: blockman on December 08, 2024, 03:00:21 PM

The PBA has already recognized that the young good talents doesn't want to get into PBA. Kevin Quiambao, one of the best prospects for this generation have already signed a deal with the KBL. He'll earn a lot while playing for that league. And this will also give another idea to the young aspiring basketball professionals that instead of going in the PBA, they should find somewhere else that they will pay them better than of our local league.

This might look bad on the PBA side but somehow more players will benefit from this scenario, i mean instead of Kevin Quiambao being the number one pick next year, there could be another one to replace him so not bad at all, hope you get what i meant hehe. Sooner or later those players playing overseas will get to play in the PBA after their contract expires as not all of them can re-sign with their team because of performance. Playing abroad and away from the family is a sad thing to do so they might play there for a few years then go back to the Philippines to play in the PBA.

I remember that when the officials of PBA went to Japan to talk to the B League officials too because they've found it alarming that many of their young aspiring calibers and players have chosen to play for B League than of the PBA. I think that was the concern of their journey there but they cannot stop these players and the offers are much better than of the PBA. So, playing overseas will make them live better than staying in the PBA that they have a salary cap and the amount of money they'll earn in 2 years in other leagues might be their entire earning in their whole PBA career.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 09, 2024, 05:40:46 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 09, 2024, 02:18:42 AM

This might look bad on the PBA side but somehow more players will benefit from this scenario, i mean instead of Kevin Quiambao being the number one pick next year, there could be another one to replace him so not bad at all, hope you get what i meant hehe. Sooner or later those players playing overseas will get to play in the PBA after their contract expires as not all of them can re-sign with their team because of performance. Playing abroad and away from the family is a sad thing to do so they might play there for a few years then go back to the Philippines to play in the PBA.

We can’t blame players like him for knowing their value, because if he can earn significantly more money playing overseas, why would he choose the PBA, especially when the league has so much politics involved?

Unless the PBA becomes more competitive in terms of salary compared to other basketball leagues in Asia, we won’t see the best players staying here. Overseas, he’s guaranteed to earn more than 1 million pesos a month. In the PBA, for a rookie, that’s simply not possible.

I go with this reason, KQ knew his value and before he will consider signing a rookie contract with any team inside PBA he knew that there are other venues to play the game, and with the talent and skills he possess it's just what happened an overseas contract being signed securing him and his family, the amount of that contract will guarantee him financially and for sure if anyone will get that same offer they won't hesitate to take it.

He always have good option unless he suffer with an injury that will change the way he play the game, he's still young and he got a lot of opportunity to keep improving his game.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 09, 2024, 02:18:42 AM

This might look bad on the PBA side but somehow more players will benefit from this scenario, i mean instead of Kevin Quiambao being the number one pick next year, there could be another one to replace him so not bad at all, hope you get what i meant hehe. Sooner or later those players playing overseas will get to play in the PBA after their contract expires as not all of them can re-sign with their team because of performance. Playing abroad and away from the family is a sad thing to do so they might play there for a few years then go back to the Philippines to play in the PBA.

We can’t blame players like him for knowing their value, because if he can earn significantly more money playing overseas, why would he choose the PBA, especially when the league has so much politics involved?

Unless the PBA becomes more competitive in terms of salary compared to other basketball leagues in Asia, we won’t see the best players staying here. Overseas, he’s guaranteed to earn more than 1 million pesos a month. In the PBA, for a rookie, that’s simply not possible.

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Quote from: blockman on December 08, 2024, 03:00:21 PM

The PBA has already recognized that the young good talents doesn't want to get into PBA. Kevin Quiambao, one of the best prospects for this generation have already signed a deal with the KBL. He'll earn a lot while playing for that league. And this will also give another idea to the young aspiring basketball professionals that instead of going in the PBA, they should find somewhere else that they will pay them better than of our local league.

This might look bad on the PBA side but somehow more players will benefit from this scenario, i mean instead of Kevin Quiambao being the number one pick next year, there could be another one to replace him so not bad at all, hope you get what i meant hehe. Sooner or later those players playing overseas will get to play in the PBA after their contract expires as not all of them can re-sign with their team because of performance. Playing abroad and away from the family is a sad thing to do so they might play there for a few years then go back to the Philippines to play in the PBA.

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The PBA has already recognized that the young good talents doesn't want to get into PBA. Kevin Quiambao, one of the best prospects for this generation have already signed a deal with the KBL. He'll earn a lot while playing for that league. And this will also give another idea to the young aspiring basketball professionals that instead of going in the PBA, they should find somewhere else that they will pay them better than of our local league.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 08, 2024, 09:29:40 AM

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That said, while I’m happy with their performance, I’m not too happy with my bets. I took the bait and bet on SMB -3.5, and I also lost on the team total points with SMB over 108.5. Tough night for me.

That loss was mainly due to SMB's lack of defense. They struggled to defend NLEX's 3 point shooting, which was the key reason NLEX was able to make a comeback. I think they should give Rosales more minutes instead of Tiongson because Tiongson lacks defensive skills and is too predictable.

Sorry for your loss , just bounce back next time!

Yup, especially in the 2nd half where NLEX managed to bounce back and cut that early lead during the first half, they continue to outscored the Beermen and complete that coming from behind win from the heavy powerhouse SMB, I agree with what you've said better to give more minutes to Rosales as he's a 2-way player, he can shoot and give a tough defense, though SMB might be allowing Tiongson to be more familiar with how the system works and how he needs to adjust to fit himself.

Just like how regular gambler needs to do, move forward and look for good game to place your bets..Good luck Kabayan!

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Quote from: Japinat on December 08, 2024, 08:59:22 AM

That said, while I’m happy with their performance, I’m not too happy with my bets. I took the bait and bet on SMB -3.5, and I also lost on the team total points with SMB over 108.5. Tough night for me.

That loss was mainly due to SMB's lack of defense. They struggled to defend NLEX's 3 point shooting, which was the key reason NLEX was able to make a comeback. I think they should give Rosales more minutes instead of Tiongson because Tiongson lacks defensive skills and is too predictable.

Sorry for your loss , just bounce back next time!

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What a game by NLEX.. it was a come from behind win... they were down by as much as 19 points but ended up winning by 5. Bolick was absolutely the hero of the game. He struggled a bit in the first half with a few turnovers, but he exploded in the second half, hitting 2 3 pointers and even 2 4 point shot. This guy is truly a superstar, and he’s made NLEX a much better team.

That said, while I’m happy with their performance, I’m not too happy with my bets. I took the bait and bet on SMB -3.5, and I also lost on the team total points with SMB over 108.5. Tough night for me.

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It’s unusual that there’s no game today. Saturday and Sunday are usually game days. But anyway, the good news is that we have games tomorrow!

According to the schedule, we’ll see:
[1] TNT vs. Northport
[2] NLEX vs. SMB

These are great matchups, especially for TNT, who lost their first game this conference. I’m thinking they’ll come back strong and beat Northport.
Let’s see.... For the betting market, it's not yet available in my bookie now, I will update tomorrow.

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