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Quote from: arwin100 on November 27, 2024, 07:33:20 AM

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Beneficial for Manuel and Romeo since they will get more minutes on Dyip, but on Tiongson and Cahilig because they will get fewer minutes.

That still depends on their performance. Take Rhon Jay Abarrientos, for example, he was just a rookie in Ginebra but was already given significant minutes because the coach saw his potential and great performance.

I think it’s a smart move for SMB since their core players aren’t getting any younger. Tiongson, in my opinion, is an underrated player. He might be small, but he’s very effective, not only is he great at managing the floor, but he can also create and score points for himself.

Hopefully he'll be able to get his minutes as if he got that chance then SMB might bring his full potential, just like how TR7 played way back when SMB acquired him from TNT, coach Leo gave him chance and he did not dissapoint him, win his title and a final mvp achievements that will fullfil your career as a player.

Moving back with TR7 and Manuel, if this upcoming season they'll play as healthy as it is then Terrafima might have a good chance to see decent performances from them, though I'm not sure if they unleash their full potentials as knowing a farm team, they'll just continue to be in the league for a sole purpose of their main team.

Provably his new team would sort everything especially they know TR7 is somehow a good player. What good thing about this trade is he meet again with his splash brother in his new team. Also provably that he would get more minutes their compare if he continue to play on SMB.

Well let see if by this time Dyip will became a competitive team since looking at their roster they still have decent players left in their team. Although they are way more behind from those super teams still they have great players in their team which can lift their team up on more better position.

If they all in their primes I can say that the team is very decent and can be competitive but with their ages and their physical conditions, there are many limiting factors that may prevent them to play hard, if they wanted to continue their careers they need to stay as it is hahahah, but kidding aside I do want to see how Tubid will convince his former teammates to play hard and be competitive for the sake of the team, let see if what TR7 and Manuel will offer for their new team and how they will help it to win games.

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Quote from: Natalim on November 27, 2024, 07:21:19 AM

The visiting team, which made it to the finals before, is back again. I spotted some familiar faces, and they’re going up against Phoenix. Earlier, they had a double-digit lead, but now it’s down to just 7 points, this should be a great game.

Eastern won the game with a huge margin (102-87)... And yes, you'll really find them familiar because they are they have been in the PBA before but their team name was Bay Area Dragon (BAD).. ALso, I'm familiar with the import, it looks like he has played in the PBA before.

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I’m surprised the pregame line was -7.5 for Phoenix, so I bet on the other side, knowing Phoenix isn’t always consistent. So far, my bet is looking good, I hope it ends with a win. Cheesy

Bookies probably thought Phoenix being the home team will dominate, but it was a different strory.
However, after seeing that, I doubt bookies would still underestimate Eastern.

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Beneficial for Manuel and Romeo since they will get more minutes on Dyip, but on Tiongson and Cahilig because they will get fewer minutes.

That still depends on their performance. Take Rhon Jay Abarrientos, for example, he was just a rookie in Ginebra but was already given significant minutes because the coach saw his potential and great performance.

I think it’s a smart move for SMB since their core players aren’t getting any younger. Tiongson, in my opinion, is an underrated player. He might be small, but he’s very effective, not only is he great at managing the floor, but he can also create and score points for himself.

Hopefully he'll be able to get his minutes as if he got that chance then SMB might bring his full potential, just like how TR7 played way back when SMB acquired him from TNT, coach Leo gave him chance and he did not dissapoint him, win his title and a final mvp achievements that will fullfil your career as a player.

Moving back with TR7 and Manuel, if this upcoming season they'll play as healthy as it is then Terrafima might have a good chance to see decent performances from them, though I'm not sure if they unleash their full potentials as knowing a farm team, they'll just continue to be in the league for a sole purpose of their main team.

Provably his new team would sort everything especially they know TR7 is somehow a good player. What good thing about this trade is he meet again with his splash brother in his new team. Also provably that he would get more minutes their compare if he continue to play on SMB.

Well let see if by this time Dyip will became a competitive team since looking at their roster they still have decent players left in their team. Although they are way more behind from those super teams still they have great players in their team which can lift their team up on more better position.

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The visiting team, which made it to the finals before, is back again. I spotted some familiar faces, and they’re going up against Phoenix. Earlier, they had a double-digit lead, but now it’s down to just 7 points, this should be a great game.

I’m surprised the pregame line was -7.5 for Phoenix, so I bet on the other side, knowing Phoenix isn’t always consistent. So far, my bet is looking good, I hope it ends with a win. Cheesy

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Quote from: Finestream on November 26, 2024, 09:17:29 PM

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Beneficial for Manuel and Romeo since they will get more minutes on Dyip, but on Tiongson and Cahilig because they will get fewer minutes.

That still depends on their performance. Take Rhon Jay Abarrientos, for example, he was just a rookie in Ginebra but was already given significant minutes because the coach saw his potential and great performance.

I think it’s a smart move for SMB since their core players aren’t getting any younger. Tiongson, in my opinion, is an underrated player. He might be small, but he’s very effective, not only is he great at managing the floor, but he can also create and score points for himself.

Hopefully he'll be able to get his minutes as if he got that chance then SMB might bring his full potential, just like how TR7 played way back when SMB acquired him from TNT, coach Leo gave him chance and he did not dissapoint him, win his title and a final mvp achievements that will fullfil your career as a player.

Moving back with TR7 and Manuel, if this upcoming season they'll play as healthy as it is then Terrafima might have a good chance to see decent performances from them, though I'm not sure if they unleash their full potentials as knowing a farm team, they'll just continue to be in the league for a sole purpose of their main team.

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We've got two games for today but unfortunately, only the first game is covered by the bookies.

My bet: Terrafirma ML @3.75 vs Converge - i think the odds for Terrafirma is attractive since they got Terrence Romeo and Vic Manuel on their roster.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 26, 2024, 08:53:37 PM

Beneficial for Manuel and Romeo since they will get more minutes on Dyip, but on Tiongson and Cahilig because they will get fewer minutes.

That still depends on their performance. Take Rhon Jay Abarrientos, for example, he was just a rookie in Ginebra but was already given significant minutes because the coach saw his potential and great performance.

I think it’s a smart move for SMB since their core players aren’t getting any younger. Tiongson, in my opinion, is an underrated player. He might be small, but he’s very effective, not only is he great at managing the floor, but he can also create and score points for himself.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 26, 2024, 12:58:53 AM

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In my opinion, this trade is beneficial for the Terrafirma team as it enhances their firepower both inside and outside. Vic Manuel and Terrence Romeo could become starters for Terrafirma, gaining more minutes and showcasing their talents once again. However, I feel sorry for Tiongson and Cahilig, as they might face the same situation Manuel and Romeo experienced with the Beermen, with limited to no playing time.

Beneficial for Manuel and Romeo since they will get more minutes on Dyip, but on Tiongson and Cahilig because they will get fewer minutes.

Just by looking at the roster of SMB right now, you will see that they have lots of guards already. TBH, I don't know what's the reason why SMB is getting so many guards right now. I mean they have enough already. Well, at the end of the day the only thing that we can do is to criticize these lopsided trades. I still remember when Stephen Holt said when he got drafted that he will not go in any SMC or MVP team and will stay with TerraFirma, but what happened to him. Cheesy

This shows the power of both SMC and MVP in this league right now, and it kills the competition. I will not be surprised if one day, independent teams will choose to sell their slot in the league to other companies.

The Pringle-Romeo tandem is one of the most explosive duos back then when they're still in GlobalPort, but they're older right now, and not that good anymore and both of them are dealing with injuries so don't expect too much for them.

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Quote from: Questat on November 26, 2024, 07:28:30 AM

The good news here is that Romeo is bound to get more minutes since they’re not loaded with star players like SMB. So let's expect a fun conference that will start tomorrow, right?

Yeah, we'll see the new Terrafirma roster will play tomorrow against the FiberXers. We'd see more of these old tandem that have been there together before. Game will be played at the Philsports arena. With the next match, the Fuelmasters, is that they'll be against the Hong Kong Eastern long lions? because in 20bet, it says that.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 26, 2024, 12:58:53 AM

In my opinion, this trade is beneficial for the Terrafirma team as it enhances their firepower both inside and outside. Vic Manuel and Terrence Romeo could become starters for Terrafirma, gaining more minutes and showcasing their talents once again. However, I feel sorry for Tiongson and Cahilig, as they might face the same situation Manuel and Romeo experienced with the Beermen, with limited to no playing time.

It’s like a throwback to the good old days with the Pringle and Romeo tandem, back when they were still rocking it with Northport Global Port. Although, they’re not in their prime anymore, but honestly, this so-called "farm team" looks a lot more exciting than their roster from the last conference. The good news here is that Romeo is bound to get more minutes since they’re not loaded with star players like SMB. So let's expect a fun conference that will start tomorrow, right?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 26, 2024, 12:58:53 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 25, 2024, 08:31:47 AM

Wow what a trade happened today, TR7 and Vic Manuel to terrafima might be a good trade if only that team is really aiming for something but knowing the history more on a farm activity, they might sending old folks to continue waiting for good first pick then harvest when it's already ripe hahaha, hopefully TR7 will again showcase his talents together with Stanley and CStand knowing their connections in terms of playing the games. Just crossing fingers if they are still in that competition level or just money matters hahaha 😆

In my opinion, this trade is beneficial for the Terrafirma team as it enhances their firepower both inside and outside. Vic Manuel and Terrence Romeo could become starters for Terrafirma, gaining more minutes and showcasing their talents once again. However, I feel sorry for Tiongson and Cahilig, as they might face the same situation Manuel and Romeo experienced with the Beermen, with limited to no playing time.

Yup, If in terms of minutes that will be good for both TR7 and Manuel as they surely gain that and will be able to perform though as an injury prone stars, it might be a downturn for their careers as if they play more minutes then chances that those old pain will comeback, but hopefully it won't turn that way as I always wanted to see TR7 dancing and showing how easy he can make a score against anyone.

The kind of entertainment that he usually do before coach Gallent ends his shinning career, I really feel that when he post his farewell statement for his former team, there's something ain't good with his relationship with coach gallent, though nothing can be change now what's needed to be done already been done by Al francis Chua and the commisioners..

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 25, 2024, 08:31:47 AM

Wow what a trade happened today, TR7 and Vic Manuel to terrafima might be a good trade if only that team is really aiming for something but knowing the history more on a farm activity, they might sending old folks to continue waiting for good first pick then harvest when it's already ripe hahaha, hopefully TR7 will again showcase his talents together with Stanley and CStand knowing their connections in terms of playing the games. Just crossing fingers if they are still in that competition level or just money matters hahaha 😆

In my opinion, this trade is beneficial for the Terrafirma team as it enhances their firepower both inside and outside. Vic Manuel and Terrence Romeo could become starters for Terrafirma, gaining more minutes and showcasing their talents once again. However, I feel sorry for Tiongson and Cahilig, as they might face the same situation Manuel and Romeo experienced with the Beermen, with limited to no playing time.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 25, 2024, 12:33:20 AM

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I've read some posts about Chot having a comeback with the Gilas even not for the main coaching staff but as long as he's part of it. What do you think about it? CTC can manage Ginebra and Gilas at the same time, so might be the same again for Chot with TNT and part of coaching staff with the Gilas.

As a fan of basketball and Gilas specifically, i don't want coach Chot Reyes to be part of Gilas anymore, he has his time with Gilas and that's it, people are already tired of his antics. Like you said, coach Tim Cone can handle the Gilas team pretty well as he has a squad of assistant coaches that helps him already so no need of coach Chot anymore.

I understand your take about him, many have hated him and when he has announced he's stepping down it feels like it was a success.

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The funny thing about New Zealand is that their team captain can't accept the fact that they were defeated.
He tweeted that there's a cooking from the referee and because the Gilas are on our turf. What a guy, can't accept defeat. It's not always that a not so strong that keeps on trying will remain on the bottom.

When you lost for the first time against at team that you're defeating by a huge margin in the past, it's pretty normal that you will be feeling frustrated to a point where the team might affected their morale in a negative way just because of how Gilas defeated them. I guess that's what happened to him.

Now, he deactivated his Instagram account already and maybe that's an order for the team management as well. In the next window, they will be facing each other again, but this time it will be on New Zealand. I believe he can't just accept the fact that they got defeated by a lower ranked team like our Gilas. Cheesy

Kind of butthurt I guess.

Certainly butthurt, and you know what these other nations think of us not just in basketball but in us in general that we're lowly humans. And that probably have sunk to his mind that "these monkeys beaten us".

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I've read some posts about Chot having a comeback with the Gilas even not for the main coaching staff but as long as he's part of it. What do you think about it? CTC can manage Ginebra and Gilas at the same time, so might be the same again for Chot with TNT and part of coaching staff with the Gilas.

I have nothing against Coach Chot, but I would rather have Coach Jong Uichico on the coaching staff than him.

His past performance as the head coach of Gilas is enough for me for him to not be included on the coaching staff. At the end of the day though, it's still their final decision on whether they will include him or not, but I would rather not to. I might be wrong though, and it might be a good idea to include him, but we will not know unless they try to get him.

I hope that he won't be included as well. He's done with the team and just consider his contributions there are now in result.

Quote from: Fredomago on November 24, 2024, 06:31:42 PM

Not sure if he still needed as coach Tim are being sorrunded by staffs who can really help him in developing the sqaud, though maybe as a coordinator since Al francis Chua already earn the position as the managing director I'm seeing this posibility as a token of appreciation for MVP group stepping down and gives all the access for SMC to takeover the national team.

Whatever might be the decision for this, as long as they can work together and they won't have any conflict it surely brings good outcome, both coaches knows how to complement each other so I'm not seeing any problem if ever.

We'll see but the majority of the Gilas fans don't want him to be back in there. But you guys are right that it's up for the management whether they want him back or not.

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Wow what a trade happened today, TR7 and Vic Manuel to terrafima might be a good trade if only that team is really aiming for something but knowing the history more on a farm activity, they might sending old folks to continue waiting for good first pick then harvest when it's already ripe hahaha, hopefully TR7 will again showcase his talents together with Stanley and CStand knowing their connections in terms of playing the games. Just crossing fingers if they are still in that competition level or just money matters hahaha 😆

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I've read some posts about Chot having a comeback with the Gilas even not for the main coaching staff but as long as he's part of it. What do you think about it? CTC can manage Ginebra and Gilas at the same time, so might be the same again for Chot with TNT and part of coaching staff with the Gilas.

As a fan of basketball and Gilas specifically, i don't want coach Chot Reyes to be part of Gilas anymore, he has his time with Gilas and that's it, people are already tired of his antics. Like you said, coach Tim Cone can handle the Gilas team pretty well as he has a squad of assistant coaches that helps him already so no need of coach Chot anymore.

I think he should respect the team. Stepping down as head coach means he chose not to be part of it anymore. The current Gilas roster is making waves with their success, and we’ve proven to be very competitive on the international stage. Just recently, we made history by beating New Zealand, and last night, we dominated Hong Kong. Those are moments to be proud of! All the comments now are just praises, and honestly, the team deserves every bit of it.

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Quote from: blockman on November 24, 2024, 05:43:22 PM

I've read some posts about Chot having a comeback with the Gilas even not for the main coaching staff but as long as he's part of it. What do you think about it? CTC can manage Ginebra and Gilas at the same time, so might be the same again for Chot with TNT and part of coaching staff with the Gilas.

As a fan of basketball and Gilas specifically, i don't want coach Chot Reyes to be part of Gilas anymore, he has his time with Gilas and that's it, people are already tired of his antics. Like you said, coach Tim Cone can handle the Gilas team pretty well as he has a squad of assistant coaches that helps him already so no need of coach Chot anymore.

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Quote from: blockman on November 22, 2024, 04:06:46 PM

The funny thing about New Zealand is that their team captain can't accept the fact that they were defeated.
He tweeted that there's a cooking from the referee and because the Gilas are on our turf. What a guy, can't accept defeat. It's not always that a not so strong that keeps on trying will remain on the bottom.

When you lost for the first time against at team that you're defeating by a huge margin in the past, it's pretty normal that you will be feeling frustrated to a point where the team might affected their morale in a negative way just because of how Gilas defeated them. I guess that's what happened to him.

Now, he deactivated his Instagram account already and maybe that's an order for the team management as well. In the next window, they will be facing each other again, but this time it will be on New Zealand. I believe he can't just accept the fact that they got defeated by a lower ranked team like our Gilas. Cheesy

Kind of butthurt I guess.

Quote from: blockman on November 24, 2024, 05:43:22 PM

I've read some posts about Chot having a comeback with the Gilas even not for the main coaching staff but as long as he's part of it. What do you think about it? CTC can manage Ginebra and Gilas at the same time, so might be the same again for Chot with TNT and part of coaching staff with the Gilas.

I have nothing against Coach Chot, but I would rather have Coach Jong Uichico on the coaching staff than him.

His past performance as the head coach of Gilas is enough for me for him to not be included on the coaching staff. At the end of the day though, it's still their final decision on whether they will include him or not, but I would rather not to. I might be wrong though, and it might be a good idea to include him, but we will not know unless they try to get him.

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Quote from: blockman on November 24, 2024, 05:43:22 PM

I've read some posts about Chot having a comeback with the Gilas even not for the main coaching staff but as long as he's part of it. What do you think about it? CTC can manage Ginebra and Gilas at the same time, so might be the same again for Chot with TNT and part of coaching staff with the Gilas.

Not sure if he still needed as coach Tim are being sorrunded by staffs who can really help him in developing the sqaud, though maybe as a coordinator since Al francis Chua already earn the position as the managing director I'm seeing this posibility as a token of appreciation for MVP group stepping down and gives all the access for SMC to takeover the national team.

Whatever might be the decision for this, as long as they can work together and they won't have any conflict it surely brings good outcome, both coaches knows how to complement each other so I'm not seeing any problem if ever.

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I've read some posts about Chot having a comeback with the Gilas even not for the main coaching staff but as long as he's part of it. What do you think about it? CTC can manage Ginebra and Gilas at the same time, so might be the same again for Chot with TNT and part of coaching staff with the Gilas.

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Quote from: Maslate on November 23, 2024, 03:34:47 AM

He realized he made a big mistake by whining on Instagram. It’s unsportsmanlike, he should’ve just accepted the loss as losing is part of the game, and sometimes the ref’s calls don’t go your way. It happens to every team, even Gilas, but you’ve got to be man enough to take the defeat.

Now, his comments are gone. He deleted them.

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After their loss to Gilas Pilipinas, New Zealand's captain blamed the referees but later deleted the comment.

Very unsporting post that he did. These players should also anticipate defeat even from the most underrated teams. They'll never know how it feels to be accused by having some cooking show where in fact that they're not and just have to admit that they have become lackluster. It's a hard pill to swallow with such lost.

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