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Quote from: Japinat on April 06, 2024, 08:32:11 AM

So after TNT got dominated the other day, now it's Magnolia who loss to the NLEX RoadWarriors in again another dominating game. Bollick still continue to remain consistent but it was Semerad who was the best player in the game who contributed 22 points.

This is looking very unpredictable now, and I'm seeing this NLEX team to be the dark horse in the playoffs. Now they are the only team who reach 5 wins, although not at the top yet since SMB own the top spot with 4-0 standing.

It's all because of Bollick, he had a better version of team now, if he didn't come back in the Philippines, NLEX would have the same struggle they have in the previous season. I like that they are so comfortable with their respective rules now, they played great defense and they don't hesitate to shoot, good thing they have Bollick who can attack and destroy the defense of their opponents. Attack, pass to the open man and shoot without hesitation, that hasn't been their play, and it's been working. For the NLEX to lose, Bollick should be limited, but thus far, no team has even done that as they are already in a winning streak.

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So after TNT got dominated the other day, now it's Magnolia who loss to the NLEX RoadWarriors in again another dominating game. Bollick still continue to remain consistent but it was Semerad who was the best player in the game who contributed 22 points.

This is looking very unpredictable now, and I'm seeing this NLEX team to be the dark horse in the playoffs. Now they are the only team who reach 5 wins, although not at the top yet since SMB own the top spot with 4-0 standing.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 05, 2024, 03:16:53 PM

Pogue alone can't carry them, they need a good back up support especially with their other stars unfortunately, both Castro and Oftana are not producing numbers that they needed, both being limited and NP is really showing them gòd defense and good conversions of those turnovers, they did try to rally back but not enough time to make an upset, no need to mentioned Williams as for sure the negotiations didn't work out well to sign him back, maybe they need to rebalance the system and find new sets of role players to help.

Maybe they just have a bad game as they don't loss this much this conference so far. We will see next game what is the adjustment they'll make, but I want to see them adjusting more on their defense as even though their shots aren't falling but their defense is fine, they would not lose with that huge margin.

TNT is slowly becoming an average team, we still want them to be in the finals but the current roster doesn't have enouh fire power to bring them to that big stage. If they can't pursue Williams, then they should look for another superstar as they badly needed it.

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I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.

That's how it is now, it's just unfortunate that TNT were not able to come back in the 3rd. This 4th quarter, they have a good run but i think there's no enough time to win the game. With less than 3 minutes left in the game and Northport is still leading a double digit, I don't see this run to be converted to a win now.

Castro is already old, so he is not the same anymore. This game he only made 4 points, that's uncharacteristics of him as he used to be good and could lead a team. Although Pogoy has 34 points, but he is not getting good support especially from Oftana who are very limited.

Too bad for Castro to have a performance like this, it looks like TNT have to look for the support system and play as a better team.
TNT should get more young people that can help the team and play aggressively, they are slowly losing their winning glory and this is not good in long term.
The coaching staff of TNT should address this one and have a better plan on their next game to bounce back, they still have the chance though considering their roster for this conference, maybe they just need to find the good balance.

Pogue alone can't carry them, they need a good back up support especially with their other stars unfortunately, both Castro and Oftana are not producing numbers that they needed, both being limited and NP is really showing them gòd defense and good conversions of those turnovers, they did try to rally back but not enough time to make an upset, no need to mentioned Williams as for sure the negotiations didn't work out well to sign him back, maybe they need to rebalance the system and find new sets of role players to help.

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There is this roster that's being posted by an MPBL team that they're including Greg Slaughter on their roster and on some other team, another PBA player that will be playing for them as well, I just forgot the name of him. Apart from that, is it true that CTB will be coaching Converge soon and gonna replace coach Ayo?

Quote from: Maslate on April 05, 2024, 06:40:28 AM

now, maybe they realize that they really need Williams..BTW, what happened to the rumors that he will get sign?

No more news about him signing or whatnot because both parties don't agree to the terms of each other.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 05, 2024, 08:32:28 AM

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I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.

That's how it is now, it's just unfortunate that TNT were not able to come back in the 3rd. This 4th quarter, they have a good run but i think there's no enough time to win the game. With less than 3 minutes left in the game and Northport is still leading a double digit, I don't see this run to be converted to a win now.

Castro is already old, so he is not the same anymore. This game he only made 4 points, that's uncharacteristics of him as he used to be good and could lead a team. Although Pogoy has 34 points, but he is not getting good support especially from Oftana who are very limited.

Too bad for Castro to have a performance like this, it looks like TNT have to look for the support system and play as a better team.
TNT should get more young people that can help the team and play aggressively, they are slowly losing their winning glory and this is not good in long term.
The coaching staff of TNT should address this one and have a better plan on their next game to bounce back, they still have the chance though considering their roster for this conference, maybe they just need to find the good balance.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 05, 2024, 06:40:28 AM

Quote from: Finestream on April 05, 2024, 06:05:18 AM

I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.

That's how it is now, it's just unfortunate that TNT were not able to come back in the 3rd. This 4th quarter, they have a good run but i think there's no enough time to win the game. With less than 3 minutes left in the game and Northport is still leading a double digit, I don't see this run to be converted to a win now.

Castro is already old, so he is not the same anymore. This game he only made 4 points, that's uncharacteristics of him as he used to be good and could lead a team. Although Pogoy has 34 points, but he is not getting good support especially from Oftana who are very limited.

Quote from: Maslate on April 05, 2024, 06:40:28 AM

now, maybe they realize that they really need Williams..BTW, what happened to the rumors that he will get sign?

They need to move on to that.. and I hope Coach chot (their head coach) will not bring his -A game in coaching the Gilas.
Seems like he was still unlucky in his return as head coach of TNT.

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Quote from: Finestream on April 05, 2024, 06:05:18 AM

I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.

That's how it is now, it's just unfortunate that TNT were not able to come back in the 3rd. This 4th quarter, they have a good run but i think there's no enough time to win the game. With less than 3 minutes left in the game and Northport is still leading a double digit, I don't see this run to be converted to a win now.

now, maybe they realize that they really need Williams..BTW, what happened to the rumors that he will get sign?

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I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 03, 2024, 11:43:15 AM

Congrats to those who pick ROS and entrust them the handicap that's a sweet win as they managed to cover the spread and give the bettors decent amount of profits!

It turns out ROS was the easy play. Didn't expect they'll be able to cover the spread since the first half was quite close, I thought for awhile that Converge had figured out how to break the spell but they only played well in the first half but the 2nd half was full of struggle. We can already count them out this conference because currently they are 0-6.

Here's the scoring per quarter.

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ROS 24 28 23 35 110
CON 24 23 16 27 90

It's easy to win by only betting against the Converge, and yes they are done, a team to stay away if we think of backing them.

Anyway, we have games tomorrow, I'm sure it's a match up that would give some great entertainment particularly the last game.
At 4:30 Pm, we have TNT vs Northport, while at 7:30 PM we have Ginebra vs SMB.

Betting odds are as follows.

TNT -3.5
SMB -4.5

Those are the two games, I only wrote the favorites as it's understandable though.

You said it right easy win for those who bet against Converge both handicap and ML gives decent profits, especially those who got a huge amount of money who risk it for ML, it's an easy money for gamblers who can take that big risk, there's nothing to ask for ROS here as they dominated the entire game and they control it till the end.

With the game tomorrow, stats wise I'll like the handicap though we all know that both NP and Gin kings do have capabilities to bring upsets, risky but possible just a matter entrusting your bet to whoever you think that will give you huge benefits.

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Quote from: Finestream on April 04, 2024, 08:03:32 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 03, 2024, 11:43:15 AM

Congrats to those who pick ROS and entrust them the handicap that's a sweet win as they managed to cover the spread and give the bettors decent amount of profits!

It turns out ROS was the easy play. Didn't expect they'll be able to cover the spread since the first half was quite close, I thought for awhile that Converge had figured out how to break the spell but they only played well in the first half but the 2nd half was full of struggle. We can already count them out this conference because currently they are 0-6.

Here's the scoring per quarter.

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ROS 24 28 23 35 110
CON 24 23 16 27 90

It's easy to win by only betting against the Converge, and yes they are done, a team to stay away if we think of backing them.

Anyway, we have games tomorrow, I'm sure it's a match up that would give some great entertainment particularly the last game.
At 4:30 Pm, we have TNT vs Northport, while at 7:30 PM we have Ginebra vs SMB.

Betting odds are as follows.

TNT -3.5
SMB -4.5

Those are the two games, I only wrote the favorites as it's understandable though.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 03, 2024, 11:43:15 AM

Congrats to those who pick ROS and entrust them the handicap that's a sweet win as they managed to cover the spread and give the bettors decent amount of profits!

It turns out ROS was the easy play. Didn't expect they'll be able to cover the spread since the first half was quite close, I thought for awhile that Converge had figured out how to break the spell but they only played well in the first half but the 2nd half was full of struggle. We can already count them out this conference because currently they are 0-6.

Here's the scoring per quarter.

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ROS 24 28 23 35 110
CON 24 23 16 27 90

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Betting on the games today.

Meralco vs DYIP in the first game, as I see on the bookies, the line was -5.5 for Meralco,.. I think I'm going to bet on them today because they came from a huge victory over the Ginebra, so I'm thinking maybe the momentum will continue.

Their previous game.

DYIP (92) vs Bossing (91)
Bolts (91) vs Ginebra (73)

Unfortunately they weren't able to carry that momentum as despite of the win, they were not able to cover the spread. Sad that Meralco didn't start strong, I guess that's their style against weaker teams, they only charge strong in the 4th but just enough to win the game and give the backers on the spread a heart ache.

Anyway the 2nd game is up, for some reason I could not find a betting odds on my local bookie so I would just say pass to this game, but watching.

That was a bad timing for me, LOL. I should have wait for the live betting to get a better line as Meralco was trailing in most of the quarters. I guess it's not really for me. I'd like to try to win back my losses but the 2nd game does not interest me, it does look like a trap but not sure which team is the right bet. Currently ROS is leading by 9 points but they are -16.5, no for me.

Look like it will end up to another blowout loss of the Converged. With less than 6 minutes and ROS is already leading by 23 points, this could go worse after the end of the game. I can't believe how bad the Converge is, they used to be competitive but now they are worst than the DYIP and Blackwater as they are still winless until now. The long break did not even help them to figure out how to win, instead the problem gets bigger.

You said it right! just going inside the court and play the game but the competitiveness ain't seeing it to anyone, they keep their opponents to attack and have that better look inside the basket, they also got poor offense which may allow them to keep the distance close if they can shot back but lack of defense together with poor offense resulted to an blowout win from the opposing team.

Congrats to those who pick ROS and entrust them the handicap that's a sweet win as they managed to cover the spread and give the bettors decent amount of profits!

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Betting on the games today.

Meralco vs DYIP in the first game, as I see on the bookies, the line was -5.5 for Meralco,.. I think I'm going to bet on them today because they came from a huge victory over the Ginebra, so I'm thinking maybe the momentum will continue.

Their previous game.

DYIP (92) vs Bossing (91)
Bolts (91) vs Ginebra (73)

Unfortunately they weren't able to carry that momentum as despite of the win, they were not able to cover the spread. Sad that Meralco didn't start strong, I guess that's their style against weaker teams, they only charge strong in the 4th but just enough to win the game and give the backers on the spread a heart ache.

Anyway the 2nd game is up, for some reason I could not find a betting odds on my local bookie so I would just say pass to this game, but watching.

That was a bad timing for me, LOL. I should have wait for the live betting to get a better line as Meralco was trailing in most of the quarters. I guess it's not really for me. I'd like to try to win back my losses but the 2nd game does not interest me, it does look like a trap but not sure which team is the right bet. Currently ROS is leading by 9 points but they are -16.5, no for me.

Look like it will end up to another blowout loss of the Converged. With less than 6 minutes and ROS is already leading by 23 points, this could go worse after the end of the game. I can't believe how bad the Converge is, they used to be competitive but now they are worst than the DYIP and Blackwater as they are still winless until now. The long break did not even help them to figure out how to win, instead the problem gets bigger.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 03, 2024, 07:54:22 AM

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Betting on the games today.

Meralco vs DYIP in the first game, as I see on the bookies, the line was -5.5 for Meralco,.. I think I'm going to bet on them today because they came from a huge victory over the Ginebra, so I'm thinking maybe the momentum will continue.

Their previous game.

DYIP (92) vs Bossing (91)
Bolts (91) vs Ginebra (73)

Unfortunately they weren't able to carry that momentum as despite of the win, they were not able to cover the spread. Sad that Meralco didn't start strong, I guess that's their style against weaker teams, they only charge strong in the 4th but just enough to win the game and give the backers on the spread a heart ache.

Anyway the 2nd game is up, for some reason I could not find a betting odds on my local bookie so I would just say pass to this game, but watching.

That was a bad timing for me, LOL. I should have wait for the live betting to get a better line as Meralco was trailing in most of the quarters. I guess it's not really for me. I'd like to try to win back my losses but the 2nd game does not interest me, it does look like a trap but not sure which team is the right bet. Currently ROS is leading by 9 points but they are -16.5, no for me.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 03, 2024, 04:02:54 AM

Betting on the games today.

Meralco vs DYIP in the first game, as I see on the bookies, the line was -5.5 for Meralco,.. I think I'm going to bet on them today because they came from a huge victory over the Ginebra, so I'm thinking maybe the momentum will continue.

Their previous game.

DYIP (92) vs Bossing (91)
Bolts (91) vs Ginebra (73)

Unfortunately they weren't able to carry that momentum as despite of the win, they were not able to cover the spread. Sad that Meralco didn't start strong, I guess that's their style against weaker teams, they only charge strong in the 4th but just enough to win the game and give the backers on the spread a heart ache.

Anyway the 2nd game is up, for some reason I could not find a betting odds on my local bookie so I would just say pass to this game, but watching.

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Quote from: Finestream on April 03, 2024, 03:02:52 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 02, 2024, 03:10:17 PM

Stats wise SMB always have that big edge against any teams though we can't rely on it as there are unexpected outcomes that the game produces, most of the time, we call it manipulation or game fixing, knowing that there's only two major franchises that really controlling the league, though that's just opinion or speculation but in terms of capacities SMB have that advantage since JMF is being supported by those gunners who really stepping up, for me personally, I can only see Gin kings who can match up against this heavyweight squad, they've got the manpower who can compete and a good coach who can boost the chemistries of each players who are playing around.

SMB is still steady, so I don't expect anything like manipulation because this team will continue to dominate. I think there are times before that their opponents are getting favored by the refs but they are just so good as their offense are very unpredictable, coming from inside and outside and refs could not do anything about that. Actually, even if JMF will not play, the SMB still have big men to maintain a good defense in the paint, what SMB have now is the chemistry and their confidence that's why they are moving the ball well.

I agree as they don't need that much productions from JMF and still they continue to make good plays and win games, like what you mentioned even without JMF their big men can still bring good defense, while with their offense they've got a lot of gunners who can produce decent numbers that can lift them to win the game, just now, it's nice to see ball movements that really creates open shots and there's no need to create individual attacks just go with the ball flow and you'll recieve and open shot.

Quote from: Kelvinid on April 03, 2024, 04:02:54 AM

Betting on the games today.

Meralco vs DYIP in the first game, as I see on the bookies, the line was -5.5 for Meralco,.. I think I'm going to bet on them today because they came from a huge victory over the Ginebra, so I'm thinking maybe the momentum will continue.

Their previous game.

DYIP (92) vs Bossing (91)
Bolts (91) vs Ginebra (73)

Current score is in favor for Bossing, those who loves taking a big risk, odds might be change now as Bossing is leading by 5 points early 3rd quarter, enough time for Meralco to rally back and switch things to snatch the game! Good luck kabayan!

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Betting on the games today.

Meralco vs DYIP in the first game, as I see on the bookies, the line was -5.5 for Meralco,.. I think I'm going to bet on them today because they came from a huge victory over the Ginebra, so I'm thinking maybe the momentum will continue.

Their previous game.

DYIP (92) vs Bossing (91)
Bolts (91) vs Ginebra (73)

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 02, 2024, 03:10:17 PM

Stats wise SMB always have that big edge against any teams though we can't rely on it as there are unexpected outcomes that the game produces, most of the time, we call it manipulation or game fixing, knowing that there's only two major franchises that really controlling the league, though that's just opinion or speculation but in terms of capacities SMB have that advantage since JMF is being supported by those gunners who really stepping up, for me personally, I can only see Gin kings who can match up against this heavyweight squad, they've got the manpower who can compete and a good coach who can boost the chemistries of each players who are playing around.

SMB is still steady, so I don't expect anything like manipulation because this team will continue to dominate. I think there are times before that their opponents are getting favored by the refs but they are just so good as their offense are very unpredictable, coming from inside and outside and refs could not do anything about that. Actually, even if JMF will not play, the SMB still have big men to maintain a good defense in the paint, what SMB have now is the chemistry and their confidence that's why they are moving the ball well.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 02, 2024, 11:39:37 AM

Quote from: Finestream on April 02, 2024, 10:36:53 AM

SMB is still the team to team, with a healthy JMF, SMB will dominate the paint and most likely they'll win the champion.
However, Ginebra vs SMB seemed to be a good match up, crash that Magnolia as sometimes they are boring to watch due to their offense not really that good especially the outside shooting, and Ginebra has more fans so the finals will be more fun.

Since it's the All-Filipino Conference, expect San Miguel Beermen to be always the team to beat especially with Fajardo on board.

Since that was the always situation in every AFC, I'm sure other top teams like Gin Kings and Magnolia already have a strategy to contain Fajardo as possible as they can be in the paint while also guarding SMB's sharpshooters on the perimeter.

However, we still don't know if SMB can maintain the top spot as who knows a surprising and unexpected thing will happen along the way.

We are just in the early phase of the elimination game anyway and there are still several games left.

Stats wise SMB always have that big edge against any teams though we can't rely on it as there are unexpected outcomes that the game produces, most of the time, we call it manipulation or game fixing, knowing that there's only two major franchises that really controlling the league, though that's just opinion or speculation but in terms of capacities SMB have that advantage since JMF is being supported by those gunners who really stepping up, for me personally, I can only see Gin kings who can match up against this heavyweight squad, they've got the manpower who can compete and a good coach who can boost the chemistries of each players who are playing around.

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