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July 13, 2022, 06:30:29 AM
It's business but lower teams are not pursuing having a good and competitive team because even if they do, they can't match SMC and MVPs offered contracts and players will choose to play for top teams instead as benefits are awesome.

Speaking of Ray Parks, who do you think is better, Ray Parks or Mikey Williams?

The past and the current, and TNT now has won a championship with Mikey Williams but never won with Ray Parks.
But for individual comparison, who do you think is better?

The one that won a championship is better, PERIOD.

By the way, Meralco seemed to be winning again and they will beat a big fish which is the Ginebra.

No more come back with few minutes left in the game, Meralco is already up 15 points with less than 8 minutes in the 4th quarter.
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July 13, 2022, 06:19:10 AM
It's business but lower teams are not pursuing having a good and competitive team because even if they do, they can't match SMC and MVPs offered contracts and players will choose to play for top teams instead as benefits are awesome.

Speaking of Ray Parks, who do you think is better, Ray Parks or Mikey Williams?

The past and the current, and TNT now has won a championship with Mikey Williams but never won with Ray Parks.
But for individual comparison, who do you think is better?
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July 12, 2022, 06:55:32 PM
If the rumors are true that Blackwater is a farm team, we cannot expect that their roster will remain intact. Look what happened to Ray Parks, Blackwater traded him to TNT and the team struggled after he got traded. So, the same scenario could happen, whoever their best player is.

They traded Ray Parks because of the offer that they can't match. Parks during that time have an option to ask for a trade. Blackwater doesn't have the ability to pay their players with a good contract that's why it's easy for top teams to acquire good players on lower teams.

If you are Ray Parks, do you really want to play for this team like Blackwater? Definitely not and will choose a competitive team with a higher salary as there are lots of offers that Parks received at that time, not just TNT. Parks will demand a trade and they can't stop him.

It's business but lower teams are not pursuing having a good and competitive team because even if they do, they can't match SMC and MVPs offered contracts and players will choose to play for top teams instead as benefits are awesome.
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July 12, 2022, 09:09:47 AM
If the rumors are true that Blackwater is a farm team, we cannot expect that their roster will remain intact. Look what happened to Ray Parks, Blackwater traded him to TNT and the team struggled after he got traded. So, the same scenario could happen, whoever their best player is.
Fans are tired of this type of rotation and cycle in the PBA. The PBA should do better and make the finals and semis open to all teams, not just MVP and SMC teams.
Blackwater is just getting good with their games and if this is going to happen to them, then, that's going to lose appetite for most fans that are becoming optimistic about them.
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July 12, 2022, 07:25:26 AM


A series game is the best measure of whether a team can handle the pressure. Of course, I like BlackWater to reach even at Semis for new looks in the competition whereas always it's usual to see top teams in SMC and MVP.

 I hope their chemistry will not be destroyed by a possible trade.

If this happen again on blackwater for sure many fans will get dismayed again for this action they made since for sure there are so many fans are not into PBA these days and if they obviously trade there roosters who shows good potentials for sure this will create another anomaly in the league. But hopefully they will not do this and continue to develop what they have this season since its good to see that Blackwater is in good shape now.

If the rumors are true that Blackwater is a farm team, we cannot expect that their roster will remain intact. Look what happened to Ray Parks, Blackwater traded him to TNT and the team struggled after he got traded. So, the same scenario could happen, whoever their best player is.
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July 12, 2022, 07:16:14 AM


A series game is the best measure of whether a team can handle the pressure. Of course, I like BlackWater to reach even at Semis for new looks in the competition whereas always it's usual to see top teams in SMC and MVP.

 I hope their chemistry will not be destroyed by a possible trade.

If this happen again on blackwater for sure many fans will get dismayed again for this action they made since for sure there are so many fans are not into PBA these days and if they obviously trade there roosters who shows good potentials for sure this will create another anomaly in the league. But hopefully they will not do this and continue to develop what they have this season since its good to see that Blackwater is in good shape now.
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July 12, 2022, 07:07:06 AM


A series game is the best measure of whether a team can handle the pressure. Of course, I like BlackWater to reach even at Semis for new looks in the competition whereas always it's usual to see top teams in SMC and MVP.

Blackwater standing now is good because they might have a twice-to-beat advantage.

They should keep winning the remaining games, SMB is really a tough team to beat especially in a series but I'm already happy with what Blackwater has achieve so far. Slowly but surely, that's what this team will have to do and I hope their chemistry will not be destroyed by a possible trade.
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July 11, 2022, 05:47:27 PM
Have you seen the SMB vs Blackwater game?

That game was really entertaining and Blackwater really prove that they are a championship team.
SMB needed an OT to beat the Blackwater because of Fajardo's 2 missed FT when only 3 seconds left in the game.
Overall, it's a good game by Blackwater, they are a threat I believe.

I don't think that just in one game, even against SMB, Blackwater already proves as a championship team.

I watched that game and it was really thrilling. But I doubt if that's a series game against SMB, BW will have the same performance.

I even appreciate BlackWater since we all know they are being popular for having the longest losing streak that lasted from 2020-2022 and their first win since then is against the Top Seed Magnolia in Governors Cup the last conference.

A series game is the best measure of whether a team can handle the pressure. Of course, I like BlackWater to reach even at Semis for new looks in the competition whereas always it's usual to see top teams in SMC and MVP.
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July 11, 2022, 04:54:15 PM
Have you seen the SMB vs Blackwater game?

That game was really entertaining and Blackwater really prove that they are a championship team.
SMB needed an OT to beat the Blackwater because of Fajardo's 2 missed FT when only 3 seconds left in the game.
Overall, it's a good game by Blackwater, they are a threat I believe.

Yeah, I watched that game. It is very uncharacteristic of June Mar to miss both free throws and at a very crucial part of the game too. Anyway, SMB still won that game and is still at #1 in the rankings. As for Blackwater, they were trailing most of the game, but did not give up, rallied at fourth, and even forced overtime. This team has heart. But as a championship team, they are still far from it.
Blackwater can be a good contender here only if they play consistently, since on this game they showcase their talents its just that SMB are more experienced team here and they already know what to do on this kind of situation. SMB did a great recovery here and still won, for Blackwater this could be a great start for a more winning games, they should do better next game.
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July 11, 2022, 04:38:45 PM
Have you seen the SMB vs Blackwater game?

That game was really entertaining and Blackwater really prove that they are a championship team.
SMB needed an OT to beat the Blackwater because of Fajardo's 2 missed FT when only 3 seconds left in the game.
Overall, it's a good game by Blackwater, they are a threat I believe.

Yeah, I watched that game. It is very uncharacteristic of June Mar to miss both free throws and at a very crucial part of the game too. Anyway, SMB still won that game and is still at #1 in the rankings. As for Blackwater, they were trailing most of the game, but did not give up, rallied at fourth, and even forced overtime. This team has heart. But as a championship team, they are still far from it.

If they continue playing like this, even for now, they are far to be qualified as one of the championship squad/franchise, but sooner or later they will be. I like the aggressiveness and dedication of each player on the court. They are not giving up and they are trying their best to keep the gap close, and in this game they force SMB for an OT.

Though it's reflects that SMB still have deeper bench and manage to prevent a disappointing outcome,

but kudos to all the players of Blackwater, still in the top 4 and have a good chance to move forward till the next round.
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July 11, 2022, 09:03:03 AM
Have you seen the SMB vs Blackwater game?

That game was really entertaining and Blackwater really prove that they are a championship team.
SMB needed an OT to beat the Blackwater because of Fajardo's 2 missed FT when only 3 seconds left in the game.
Overall, it's a good game by Blackwater, they are a threat I believe.

Yeah, I watched that game. It is very uncharacteristic of June Mar to miss both free throws and at a very crucial part of the game too. Anyway, SMB still won that game and is still at #1 in the rankings. As for Blackwater, they were trailing most of the game, but did not give up, rallied at fourth, and even forced overtime. This team has heart. But as a championship team, they are still far from it.
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July 11, 2022, 05:39:34 AM
Game 2.  Ginebra vs TNT.

Mikey Williams has to bounce back here, he had a bad game against SMB, and looks like he is not having a good start in this game as well. He only scores 3 points and already in the 2nd quarter, their top scorer is Pogoy with 10 points. TNT might not win if Williams will struggle again, so I'm thinking of betting on Ginebra while they are still down.



He now has 17 points but the shooting percentage (6/16) is not good, but looks like TNT is still in control of the game, end of 3rd quarter already and they are still up by 13 points. Well, let's see if the NSD team will have a big run in the 4th quarter, they are good at this, so let's see.

He finished with 19 points, not bad, but it was really Pogoy who played better and he scored 30 points to lead the TNT in this big win against the Ginebra.

So now, here's what happened.

Ginebra beat SMB
SMB beat TNT.
TNT beat Ginebra.

These 3 are the best teams so far IMO.


Thanks for the picture of this big 3 teams, it's very unpredictable.

As of now, SMB is taking the solo lead in the standing, SMB is currently the number 1 with 8-1 record.
Fajardo seemed back already, I think they have a big chance to win the championship? it's either Ginebra or SMB, TNT? maybe.
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July 11, 2022, 01:36:38 AM
Game 2.  Ginebra vs TNT.

Mikey Williams has to bounce back here, he had a bad game against SMB, and looks like he is not having a good start in this game as well. He only scores 3 points and already in the 2nd quarter, their top scorer is Pogoy with 10 points. TNT might not win if Williams will struggle again, so I'm thinking of betting on Ginebra while they are still down.



He now has 17 points but the shooting percentage (6/16) is not good, but looks like TNT is still in control of the game, end of 3rd quarter already and they are still up by 13 points. Well, let's see if the NSD team will have a big run in the 4th quarter, they are good at this, so let's see.

He finished with 19 points, not bad, but it was really Pogoy who played better and he scored 30 points to lead the TNT in this big win against the Ginebra.

So now, here's what happened.

Ginebra beat SMB
SMB beat TNT.
TNT beat Ginebra.

These 3 are the best teams so far IMO.
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Game 2.  Ginebra vs TNT.

Mikey Williams has to bounce back here, he had a bad game against SMB, and looks like he is not having a good start in this game as well. He only scores 3 points and already in the 2nd quarter, their top scorer is Pogoy with 10 points. TNT might not win if Williams will struggle again, so I'm thinking of betting on Ginebra while they are still down.



He now has 17 points but the shooting percentage (6/16) is not good, but looks like TNT is still in control of the game, end of 3rd quarter already and they are still up by 13 points. Well, let's see if the NSD team will have a big run in the 4th quarter, they are good at this, so let's see.
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July 10, 2022, 07:04:44 AM
Game 2.  Ginebra vs TNT.

Mikey Williams has to bounce back here, he had a bad game against SMB, and looks like he is not having a good start in this game as well. He only scores 3 points and already in the 2nd quarter, their top scorer is Pogoy with 10 points. TNT might not win if Williams will struggle again, so I'm thinking of betting on Ginebra while they are still down.

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July 10, 2022, 06:53:45 AM
Have you seen the SMB vs Blackwater game?

That game was really entertaining and Blackwater really prove that they are a championship team.
SMB needed an OT to beat the Blackwater because of Fajardo's 2 missed FT when only 3 seconds left in the game.
Overall, it's a good game by Blackwater, they are a threat I believe.
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July 09, 2022, 05:36:55 PM
What do you think about this news? is it a good news, or a bad news?

Please share your thoughts about this one, because I read a lot of negative comments regarding this.

Since it's already there and nothing will change now, then we need to treat it as a Good News lol.

Actually, what I think Coach Chot is lacking is not his style or strategy but the hard pressure and impact he brings to a player. His fierce now gone. When Coach Tab is handling the young cores of Gilas, there's a full respect that they need to follow Coach Tab at all cost and we all know what's the result of it.

No choice but to accept it even the majority are not favor for Coach Chot. Let's hope for the best on our Gilas squad.
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July 09, 2022, 02:49:44 PM
Looks like we underdogs are all winning the games today.

Rain or Shine won the first game and Coverge are leading now against Northport in the 4th quarter, so they will likely win this game.
Easy money if bettors go into ML parlay of the two underdogs.


That's a huge win if by chance a bettor bets with handicap and parlay both underdogs, though it's not usual, but there are gamblers who can handle that kind of risk. ROS start the game with great outside shooting percentage, they've got an early 2-digit leads and maintain the momentum not to allow NLEX to go near even NLEX did try some run in third quarter but ROS continue doing usual defense and offense.

In the 2nd game, Converge managed to escape NP thanks to their early leads, making it harder for NP to snatch the game after trying to rally back in the 2nd half.
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July 09, 2022, 02:10:27 PM
Chot Reyes back as Gilas Pilipinas coach for 2022 Fiba Asia Cup

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Gilas Pilipinas coach Chot Reyes in the 31st SEA Games. SEA GAMES POOL

MANILA, Philippines — Chot Reyes will call the shots for Gilas Pilipinas in the 2022 Fiba Asia Cup from July 12 to 24 in Jakarta, Indonesia.

After missing the third window of the Fiba World Cup 2023 Asian Qualifiers, the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) announced on Friday evening that Reyes, who is also the program director, will be back to coach the young Philippine men’s basketball squad.

What do you think about this news? is it a good news, or a bad news?

Please share your thoughts about this one, because I read a lot of negative comments regarding this.

It's bad news, hehe.. Sorry, but seems like coach Chot is not right to lead the Gilas if they want to achieve a good result, we need to try a new coach that could build a system we can develop in the long run, his coaching style I think is already obsolete.

By the way, ROS finally broke their losing streak, and NLEX now is on a losing streak.

96-86, ROS won by 10 points.


Maybe I will agree with this chot reyes has already given and he is a coach of gillas pilipinas for quite time. But for now based on his performance handling gilas last conference then we should say that we need another coach, a coach that can make a way how to defend and also how to handle the game situation very well. By the way its a good win for rain or shine they got their 2nd victory and it's not over yet they can win if they will work harder.
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July 09, 2022, 11:46:55 AM
Looks like we underdogs are all winning the games today.

Rain or Shine won the first game and Coverge are leading now against Northport in the 4th quarter, so they will likely win this game.
Easy money if bettors go into ML parlay of the two underdogs.

Converge is the underdog against Northport in that game?

Maybe they are just based on the roster lineup but Converge has a better standing against Northport which is on 5 losing streak before that game (now 6 losing streak because Converge defeated them). NP becomes worst this conference.

I was about to ask where's Greg Slaughter not realizing he just signed recently to play in Japan B. League Division II for the team Rizing Zephyr Fukuoka.
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