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Quote from: chaser15 on April 09, 2022, 04:25:35 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 09, 2022, 02:43:18 PM

The way most of Ginebra fans will take this handicap, place a bet and hope you are lucky enough to win the game, no more headaches and analysis just believe that Ginebra will repeat what they've don last game 2, otherwise, it will be Meralco that will win again and lead this series.

No choice since Ginebra's odds to win on Game 3 is just @1.6. Might be good for those who truly support the team but there's more money by betting at a handicap. Meralco fans are being rewarded with good odds as they will have @2 for Meralco to win the match. It's a bonus to those bettors who really like to bet on Meralco.

I hope Meralco will win on Games 3 and 4 so that Ginebra will finally taste an odds of above 2. Ginebra is turning into beast mode once they are in a pressured game which we called win-or-go or do-or-die games so they are likely to win Game 5 after that 2 losses.

Just a scenario I'm thinking of.

I would rather take the handicap as it provides a better return, if Ginebra wins, it should be at least 3+ points, hehe.. It's my personal prediction only because I'm getting biased since I'm also betting on the Ginebra Kings to win and cover the spread.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 09, 2022, 02:43:18 PM

The way most of Ginebra fans will take this handicap, place a bet and hope you are lucky enough to win the game, no more headaches and analysis just believe that Ginebra will repeat what they've don last game 2, otherwise, it will be Meralco that will win again and lead this series.

No choice since Ginebra's odds to win on Game 3 is just @1.6. Might be good for those who truly support the team but there's more money by betting at a handicap. Meralco fans are being rewarded with good odds as they will have @2 for Meralco to win the match. It's a bonus to those bettors who really like to bet on Meralco.

I hope Meralco will win on Games 3 and 4 so that Ginebra will finally taste an odds of above 2. Ginebra is turning into beast mode once they are in a pressured game which we called win-or-go or do-or-die games so they are likely to win Game 5 after that 2 losses.

Just a scenario I'm thinking of.

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Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2022, 06:34:36 PM

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Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2022, 05:26:24 PM

And they did won the game 2.
So there are 5 more games if ever this is going to reach up to game 7 but the chance is big for this series to reach there. It's always going to be a side by side standing and scoring for them.
And that's what I think I'm believing right now but if not then it's just going to be a game 5 if one of them manages to win 3 more straight wins.

With how close the game is, I think it will be a long series. We've all seen how the Boltz has a big run to trim the lead of the Ginebra to single digit only despite they are leading at least 20 points in the game, so this Meralco team is a real threat, it's just that Ginebra played well in game 2.

The edge here is on the import, Brownlee is still unstoppable, they can double him but he could still find a way to score.

Yes and that's the reason why I think that this is really going to be reaching the series up to game 7. Well, that's what probably most of us really want to happen.
The longer it is, the exciting for the fans. But for these teams, it's going to be more crucial and exhausting for them so it's not just going to be a physical match but also a mental game which is draining.

They are used to having a game 7, Ginebra is more experience because they have lots of veterans on their roster. Joe Devance is now activated to match up the size of Meralco and somehow he contributed. This is a chess game, every team will adjust every time they lose a game, and expect an adjustment coming from Meralco in game 3.

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Quote from: harizen on April 09, 2022, 11:49:03 AM

This Game 3, I don't want any headache doing some analysis. Place a bet then just hope it will win lol.

Saturday madness and I might again forget to place a bet because of a hangover lol.

I will consider adding some on Live Betting if I find attractive betting options tomorrow, only if I will be able to watch it Live obviously.

Handicap
Ginebra -2.5

Totals
Under 190.5

Whatever the odds, I will place a bet to Ginebra because I’m confident on their strategy and playing skills, they will surely take the lead and for me, its ok to have a small profit on betting with Ginebra at least I was able to have fun as well. Betting on a live game is also a good option, but since I will watch live this Sunday I might not be able to bet because I’m too focused with the game, its better to place a bet now.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 09, 2022, 08:54:51 AM

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Quote from: Johnyz on April 09, 2022, 08:10:45 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 09, 2022, 07:15:18 AM

Game 3 odds are up again, take Ginebra again while it's still early, I'm sure the odds will move again, the current odds is only -2.5..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/barangay-ginebra-vs-bolts-6251607edd7b3d8bf8e8b6af

over/under remains 190.5, I think it's going to be a very defensive game.

The odds is great, will surely take Ginebra for this one as well because I know the momentum is with them and they can really take the lead against Meralco.
The odds might change hours before the game, this is a good early catch up. Though of course we can't still underestimate Meralco, they are no longer the underdog here, both teams did a great game in the past 2 games and both of them can do more in the coming games.

Only a slight underdog and we can understand that since Ginebra is always a crowd favorite whoever they will face. They proved that they can beat the Meralco, so why not give them another chance, I won in game 2 and I believe I will win again tomorrow.

As if there was a significant change in the odds, the odds are just moving from -1.5 to -2.5 for Ginebra, so there's nothing new in the current odds, it's just that it is an opportunity for the Ginebra bettors as it's easy to cover that spread in case they'll win.

Yeah, bookies did not play a tricky game with the odds because they cannot.
Ginebra playing with Japeth gives us a good odds to choose well, and even without Japeth, we still believe that Ginebra would win the championship because they have JB who would do everything to win.

For sure, another double-double, 30+ points game of JB will be witnessed again.

Quote from: freedomgo on April 09, 2022, 08:54:51 AM

What worries me is Ginebra's defence, they let the Meralco come back from a high of 20 points advantage, their lucky Meralco was not able to complete the come back.

Yeah, I saw that, I was scared a little, but like I said, JB will take over and win the game.

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Quote from: harizen on April 09, 2022, 11:49:03 AM

This Game 3, I don't want any headache doing some analysis. Place a bet then just hope it will win lol.

Saturday madness and I might again forget to place a bet because of a hangover lol.

I will consider adding some on Live Betting if I find attractive betting options tomorrow, only if I will be able to watch it Live obviously.

Handicap
Ginebra -2.5

Totals
Under 190.5

The way most of Ginebra fans will take this handicap, place a bet and hope you are lucky enough to win the game, no more headaches and analysis just believe that Ginebra will repeat what they've don last game 2, otherwise, it will be Meralco that will win again and lead this series. We really don't know how both teams will play this coming game 3. If you have some doubt, then go and bet during the live game. Maybe you'll be able to pick side after watching how both teams are playing the game.

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This Game 3, I don't want any headache doing some analysis. Place a bet then just hope it will win lol.

Saturday madness and I might again forget to place a bet because of a hangover lol.

I will consider adding some on Live Betting if I find attractive betting options tomorrow, only if I will be able to watch it Live obviously.

Handicap
Ginebra -2.5

Totals
Under 190.5

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 09, 2022, 08:54:51 AM

What worries me is Ginebra's defence, they let the Meralco come back from a high of 20 points advantage, their lucky Meralco was not able to complete the come back.

That makes me think that betting in Live Bet is good. If Ginebra will repeat again the big lead they made last game, it's good to place a bet at Meralco +. I'm sure this team will again do some big rally once Ginebra was able to repeat that big lead. In most part of the elimination games, Ginebra is really not good at maintaining a big lead.

There's always a time they are allowing an average 10-0 run by their opponent while in a big lead making fans get a bit worried that they will eventually lose but it's not happening. Another one I'm thinking is, if ever Ginebra will be in a big lead on Game 3, they now learned their lesson on Game 2 and won't allow Meralco to do some rally and that leads me to bet on Ginebra -.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 09, 2022, 08:12:51 AM

Quote from: Johnyz on April 09, 2022, 08:10:45 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 09, 2022, 07:15:18 AM

Game 3 odds are up again, take Ginebra again while it's still early, I'm sure the odds will move again, the current odds is only -2.5..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/barangay-ginebra-vs-bolts-6251607edd7b3d8bf8e8b6af

over/under remains 190.5, I think it's going to be a very defensive game.

The odds is great, will surely take Ginebra for this one as well because I know the momentum is with them and they can really take the lead against Meralco.
The odds might change hours before the game, this is a good early catch up. Though of course we can't still underestimate Meralco, they are no longer the underdog here, both teams did a great game in the past 2 games and both of them can do more in the coming games.

Only a slight underdog and we can understand that since Ginebra is always a crowd favorite whoever they will face. They proved that they can beat the Meralco, so why not give them another chance, I won in game 2 and I believe I will win again tomorrow.

As if there was a significant change in the odds, the odds are just moving from -1.5 to -2.5 for Ginebra, so there's nothing new in the current odds, it's just that it is an opportunity for the Ginebra bettors as it's easy to cover that spread in case they'll win.

What worries me is Ginebra's defence, they let the Meralco come back from a high of 20 points advantage, their lucky Meralco was not able to complete the come back.

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Quote from: Johnyz on April 09, 2022, 08:10:45 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 09, 2022, 07:15:18 AM

Game 3 odds are up again, take Ginebra again while it's still early, I'm sure the odds will move again, the current odds is only -2.5..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/barangay-ginebra-vs-bolts-6251607edd7b3d8bf8e8b6af

over/under remains 190.5, I think it's going to be a very defensive game.

The odds is great, will surely take Ginebra for this one as well because I know the momentum is with them and they can really take the lead against Meralco.
The odds might change hours before the game, this is a good early catch up. Though of course we can't still underestimate Meralco, they are no longer the underdog here, both teams did a great game in the past 2 games and both of them can do more in the coming games.

Only a slight underdog and we can understand that since Ginebra is always a crowd favorite whoever they will face. They proved that they can beat the Meralco, so why not give them another chance, I won in game 2 and I believe I will win again tomorrow.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 09, 2022, 07:15:18 AM

Game 3 odds are up again, take Ginebra again while it's still early, I'm sure the odds will move again, the current odds is only -2.5..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/barangay-ginebra-vs-bolts-6251607edd7b3d8bf8e8b6af

over/under remains 190.5, I think it's going to be a very defensive game.

The odds is great, will surely take Ginebra for this one as well because I know the momentum is with them and they can really take the lead against Meralco.
The odds might change hours before the game, this is a good early catch up. Though of course we can't still underestimate Meralco, they are no longer the underdog here, both teams did a great game in the past 2 games and both of them can do more in the coming games.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 09, 2022, 07:15:18 AM

Game 3 odds are up again, take Ginebra again while it's still early, I'm sure the odds will move again, the current odds is only -2.5..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/barangay-ginebra-vs-bolts-6251607edd7b3d8bf8e8b6af

over/under remains 190.5, I think it's going to be a very defensive game.

Ginebra all the way, if this is a trap, then there's no problem with losing the game. I saw how JB carried the team in game 2, he would surely do the same in game 3 and I like the Ginebra now because they are using more players and the result is good because they are more effective. As long as Maliksi will be limited, there's a huge chance that Ginebra will win again.

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Game 3 odds are up again, take Ginebra again while it's still early, I'm sure the odds will move again, the current odds is only -2.5..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/barangay-ginebra-vs-bolts-6251607edd7b3d8bf8e8b6af

over/under remains 190.5, I think it's going to be a very defensive game.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 08, 2022, 06:51:39 PM

I was happy that Ginebra won but not impressed with how they gave up that big lead. They began again comfortable when they are in a big lead and seems not under pressure to win. Meralco slowly regained its momentum and successfully managed to cut the lead in the long run. It just showed us that Meralco won't easily give up even if the game is on Ginebra's momentum.

If that happened again, Ginebra might be in trouble. Meralco seems to be more inspired to take the championship at this conference. They are all a threat and their plays become more improved, far better when they upset the no.1 seed Magnolia during the semis.

If only Brownlee didn't snatch the ball from Banchero, they might get that victory as well.
Its only a 3 point lead with the Meralco with the momentum with only less than a minute I think but Brownlee snatched the ball from Banchero and a ferocious dunk. From a one possession that can be tied to a 2 possession ball game and that dunk from Brownlee is the dagger to the Bolts thus, Ginebra got the victory.

On the other hand though, I agree that there was a time where Ginebra got overconfident and let their huge lead go away. We know how good Meralco is at defense and even Magnolia is having a hard time getting their shots because of their defense. Meralco really is more inspired now. We know how many times Ginebra defeated them in a Finals match-up. Meralco is more determined now to get the revenge and the championship as well against Ginebra but I know that Ginebra will not give up (Never Say Die).

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 08, 2022, 11:21:14 PM

I see this game the other way. We know that PBA is also a big business in terms of gambling. There are many available odds where gamblers can bet during the live events,

I disagree with your suspicion mate since it's already common not just in PBA to have live betting options that something like, for let's say Ginebra -10 or Meralco +12 during the time the Bolts were behind a big lead. There's no business involved there as it's usual to see a distribution of odds like that during a dominance of one team over another.

At some point in my gambling experience, I always live bet not just in PBA but for other small leagues on international as well that's why it's just common to see big handicaps for the dominating team once they are in the big lead. In my observation, once the lead maintained at least 15+ points, the handicap is around -12 for the dominant team, especially during the last minutes of the regulation. Or can you share other scenarios that you think are suspicious on a live bet aside from what I have stated? Maybe what I shared isn't the one you are referring to.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 08, 2022, 06:51:39 PM

I was happy that Ginebra won but not impressed with how they gave up that big lead. They began again comfortable when they are in a big lead and seems not under pressure to win. Meralco slowly regained its momentum and successfully managed to cut the lead in the long run. It just showed us that Meralco won't easily give up even if the game is on Ginebra's momentum.

If that happened again, Ginebra might be in trouble. Meralco seems to be more inspired to take the championship at this conference. They are all a threat and their plays become more improved, far better when they upset the no.1 seed Magnolia during the semis.

I see this game the other way. We know that PBA is also a big business in terms of gambling. There are many available odds where

gamblers can bet during the live events, hahaha Wink

but kidding aside, it's true that Meralco is really eager to win this season. If Ginebra

will continue playing this way, the chance that Meralco will snatch this series from them. They need not to let Meralco to make such

rally. Still lots of actions to witness between these two teams. Best to pick sides and hope for the best outcome.

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Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2022, 06:34:36 PM

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Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2022, 05:26:24 PM

And they did won the game 2.
So there are 5 more games if ever this is going to reach up to game 7 but the chance is big for this series to reach there. It's always going to be a side by side standing and scoring for them.
And that's what I think I'm believing right now but if not then it's just going to be a game 5 if one of them manages to win 3 more straight wins.

With how close the game is, I think it will be a long series. We've all seen how the Boltz has a big run to trim the lead of the Ginebra to single digit only despite they are leading at least 20 points in the game, so this Meralco team is a real threat, it's just that Ginebra played well in game 2.

The edge here is on the import, Brownlee is still unstoppable, they can double him but he could still find a way to score.

Yes and that's the reason why I think that this is really going to be reaching the series up to game 7. Well, that's what probably most of us really want to happen.
The longer it is, the exciting for the fans. But for these teams, it's going to be more crucial and exhausting for them so it's not just going to be a physical match but also a mental game which is draining.

When Meralco was behind around 20+ points, many fans now conclude that Game 1 is just a luck game for Meralco, and Game 2 will be an easy win for the Kings. And the rally was made by Meralco on 3Q cutting the lead down to only single-digit and that's the start of the intense close game until the end.

We can't really conclude that this series is just about Ginebra. Meralco is really doing its best to keep up with Ginebra. They are also playing against the crowd and that's why I'm amazed that Meralco can still be in the momentum with a purpose to get from that big behind.

Game 3 is crucial and Meralco might bounce back. They still have players who did not perform well and if those wake up, Ginebra will be up on another difficult challenge to win that game.

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I was happy that Ginebra won but not impressed with how they gave up that big lead. They began again comfortable when they are in a big lead and seems not under pressure to win. Meralco slowly regained its momentum and successfully managed to cut the lead in the long run. It just showed us that Meralco won't easily give up even if the game is on Ginebra's momentum.

If that happened again, Ginebra might be in trouble. Meralco seems to be more inspired to take the championship at this conference. They are all a threat and their plays become more improved, far better when they upset the no.1 seed Magnolia during the semis.

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If the game will reach Game 7, I doubt it's because of wrong officiating. Meralco is a threat and their strength is equal to Ginebra.

What the Ginebra fans should be concerned about is the status of Brownlee. If Brownlee will be in his worst game, Ginebra won't have an answer to the dominance of Meralco. They should also learn to protect their big lead. They almost lose that game 2 and they just become serious when the lead is being cut by Meralco.

The Game 2 result gives me a headache on who's to bet on the next game.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 08, 2022, 05:35:06 PM

Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2022, 05:26:24 PM

And they did won the game 2.
So there are 5 more games if ever this is going to reach up to game 7 but the chance is big for this series to reach there. It's always going to be a side by side standing and scoring for them.
And that's what I think I'm believing right now but if not then it's just going to be a game 5 if one of them manages to win 3 more straight wins.

With how close the game is, I think it will be a long series. We've all seen how the Boltz has a big run to trim the lead of the Ginebra to single digit only despite they are leading at least 20 points in the game, so this Meralco team is a real threat, it's just that Ginebra played well in game 2.

The edge here is on the import, Brownlee is still unstoppable, they can double him but he could still find a way to score.

Yes and that's the reason why I think that this is really going to be reaching the series up to game 7. Well, that's what probably most of us really want to happen.
The longer it is, the exciting for the fans. But for these teams, it's going to be more crucial and exhausting for them so it's not just going to be a physical match but also a mental game which is draining.

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