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April 08, 2022, 01:43:16 AM

I still need lots of analysis before placing a bet although I already have some considerations.

Seems to me that Ginebra will take Game 2 but the handicap for Meralco is also eye-catchy. But more on, I will take Ginebra ML.

As usual, game-time decision before placing my bet. Hoping also for odds adjustment in favor of Ginebra to at least an additional @1 for their ML odds.

The odds seem nothing suspicious to me. IIRC, in game 1, Ginebra is -2.5, they lose by 11 points so -1.5 being them as the favorite is alright. I took the spread already last night thinking it might go up and I might miss the opportunity.

Yes, that a decent handicap even Meralco beats them in game 1 Ginebra's chance of taking game 2 is pretty possible, if there's no manipulation or in our terms "hulugan" Ginebra can easily cover that handicap and on my own analysis they can bounce and win with double digit lead. Though everything will be witness later when these two teams meet again and start playing their own respective system.

Adjustments from both teams are really anticipated, Ginebra will avoid losing 2 games streak from this series while Meralco will
try everything that they've got to take that comfortable lead.

There's a change now, from -1.5 the line goes up to -2.5 for the Ginebra. I have a feeling that it's a close game and I think Ginebra will even the series. For those who have not put their bet yet, I think -2.5 is still good to go, just trust the NSD team.
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April 08, 2022, 12:59:24 AM

I still need lots of analysis before placing a bet although I already have some considerations.

Seems to me that Ginebra will take Game 2 but the handicap for Meralco is also eye-catchy. But more on, I will take Ginebra ML.

As usual, game-time decision before placing my bet. Hoping also for odds adjustment in favor of Ginebra to at least an additional @1 for their ML odds.

The odds seem nothing suspicious to me. IIRC, in game 1, Ginebra is -2.5, they lose by 11 points so -1.5 being them as the favorite is alright. I took the spread already last night thinking it might go up and I might miss the opportunity.

Yes, that a decent handicap even Meralco beats them in game 1 Ginebra's chance of taking game 2 is pretty possible, if there's no manipulation or in our terms "hulugan" Ginebra can easily cover that handicap and on my own analysis they can bounce and win with double digit lead. Though everything will be witness later when these two teams meet again and start playing their own respective system.

Adjustments from both teams are really anticipated, Ginebra will avoid losing 2 games streak from this series while Meralco will
try everything that they've got to take that comfortable lead.
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April 08, 2022, 12:33:33 AM

I still need lots of analysis before placing a bet although I already have some considerations.

Seems to me that Ginebra will take Game 2 but the handicap for Meralco is also eye-catchy. But more on, I will take Ginebra ML.

As usual, game-time decision before placing my bet. Hoping also for odds adjustment in favor of Ginebra to at least an additional @1 for their ML odds.

The odds seem nothing suspicious to me. IIRC, in game 1, Ginebra is -2.5, they lose by 11 points so -1.5 being them as the favorite is alright. I took the spread already last night thinking it might go up and I might miss the opportunity.
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April 07, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I still need lots of analysis before placing a bet although I already have some considerations.

Seems to me that Ginebra will take Game 2 but the handicap for Meralco is also eye-catchy. But more on, I will take Ginebra ML.

As usual, game-time decision before placing my bet. Hoping also for odds adjustment in favor of Ginebra to at least an additional @1 for their ML odds.
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April 07, 2022, 06:54:00 PM
Ginebra is composed of great players, many expect too much from them and the pressure is huge as well, they are capable to win the championship but they should not be complacent because Meralco is also a great team. -1.5 with Ginebra is still fine for a good team while many still see Meralco as a common team here, well let’s just see the upcoming games and see if Ginebra can execute their plays or Meralco will stay compose and get closer to the title. Today is a big day, let’s watch the game!

And because Ginebra is composed of great players, some people think that the game is rigged just because they lose.

They don't give credit to what Meralco did and all their efforts to win on Game 1 are seen as being helped by officiating which is not. These people should stop treating Game 1 as a game that Meralco didn't really win. The Meralco gang put their effort to win that game.

They just need to move on and trust Ginebra for a bounce-back if they really believed in the Never Say Die quote of this team.
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April 07, 2022, 06:26:28 PM
They have a good reason to bounce back, and they are capable to do this. I also want to go with Ginebra for that odds, its fair enough for me. Ginebra wont be affected by the result of Game 1, they will surely get their rhythm in Game 2 and take it. Brownlee should detonate his explosive performance, just like in the semis and I’m looking forward for this.
I also think that the game 2 will be Ginebra's. Well, I'm starting to think about the classic finals that we always use to see before. Like it will be reaching a game 7 for this series because that's how it goes and I'm sure that many have noticed it.
Brownlee would really show the monster of him on this match later and the game will be theirs.

You have a point. Ginebra will likely get Game 2 as it used to be like in any Finals series. They are being waked up after that Game 1 loss.

But Meralco seems to be more inspired. Coach Norman's goal was to beat Coach Tim Cone as he always loses to this Hall of Famer Coach in any playoffs or Final series. Is this the series he will beat Coach Tim Cone? It's just 1-0 and there are lots of remaining games in action.

If no rigging in game 2, I think Ginebra has a big chance of winning.

Don't post non-sense speculations here. How did you end up that games will be rigged? Do you mean Game 1 is rigged?

Can you explain? Is Meralco not allowed to win, only Ginebra should win so PBA is rigging it?
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April 07, 2022, 05:56:11 PM
They have a good reason to bounce back, and they are capable to do this. I also want to go with Ginebra for that odds, its fair enough for me. Ginebra wont be affected by the result of Game 1, they will surely get their rhythm in Game 2 and take it. Brownlee should detonate his explosive performance, just like in the semis and I’m looking forward for this.
I also think that the game 2 will be Ginebra's. Well, I'm starting to think about the classic finals that we always use to see before. Like it will be reaching a game 7 for this series because that's how it goes and I'm sure that many have noticed it.
Brownlee would really show the monster of him on this match later and the game will be theirs.
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April 07, 2022, 05:30:18 PM

I'm with you, risking some spare for Ginebra to add some fun while watching the game.

I guess I'm also riding with you guys, the spread hasn't changed yet, Ginebra is still -1.5 in this game, a big difference when Magnolia faces Meralco as Meralco is always an underdog of +4.5. If no rigging in game 2, I think Ginebra has a big chance of winning.
They have a good reason to bounce back, and they are capable to do this. I also want to go with Ginebra for that odds, its fair enough for me. Ginebra wont be affected by the result of Game 1, they will surely get their rhythm in Game 2 and take it. Brownlee should detonate his explosive performance, just like in the semis and I’m looking forward for this.
Ginebra is composed of great players, many expect too much from them and the pressure is huge as well, they are capable to win the championship but they should not be complacent because Meralco is also a great team. -1.5 with Ginebra is still fine for a good team while many still see Meralco as a common team here, well let’s just see the upcoming games and see if Ginebra can execute their plays or Meralco will stay compose and get closer to the title. Today is a big day, let’s watch the game!
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April 07, 2022, 04:58:22 PM

I'm with you, risking some spare for Ginebra to add some fun while watching the game.

I guess I'm also riding with you guys, the spread hasn't changed yet, Ginebra is still -1.5 in this game, a big difference when Magnolia faces Meralco as Meralco is always an underdog of +4.5. If no rigging in game 2, I think Ginebra has a big chance of winning.
They have a good reason to bounce back, and they are capable to do this. I also want to go with Ginebra for that odds, its fair enough for me. Ginebra wont be affected by the result of Game 1, they will surely get their rhythm in Game 2 and take it. Brownlee should detonate his explosive performance, just like in the semis and I’m looking forward for this.
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April 07, 2022, 04:38:05 PM

Meralco seemed to be getting the call.  Smiley

They really are such a great 3 point shooting team, I think Ginebra really has to improve their game by game 2, and I would make sure I will bet on them as they will surely even the series, or maybe double if they still lose since I don't see a 3-0 will happen. Maybe there some kind of rig show happening, but that's what PBA is, it's just like NBA that amazing things could happen, if you know what I mean.

Ginebra will adjust. We know how great Tim Cone was. He won't let Meralco continue the momentum, he will find the best way to stop the possible 2-0 and will try harder to even the series. I'm on the side that Ginebra will focus on their outside defense, that good 3 points percentage of Meralco needs to evaluate and make sure to have a much tighter defense.

And also, Ginebra needs to start strong game 1 is not a good sign for the finals, they need to create good and working plays
to convert their offense.

I'm with you, risking some spare for Ginebra to add some fun while watching the game.

Brownlee will again take over the game, if you see game 1, it's the local of Meralco that really gave problems to the Ginebra so the locals of the Kings should also have to step up as they cannot win with one man only. Hodge who is not known to be an offensive player is getting a lot of open shots and he really did capitalize on the bad defense of the Kings.
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April 07, 2022, 03:51:21 PM

I'm with you, risking some spare for Ginebra to add some fun while watching the game.

I guess I'm also riding with you guys, the spread hasn't changed yet, Ginebra is still -1.5 in this game, a big difference when Magnolia faces Meralco as Meralco is always an underdog of +4.5. If no rigging in game 2, I think Ginebra has a big chance of winning.
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April 07, 2022, 01:56:30 PM

Meralco seemed to be getting the call.  Smiley

They really are such a great 3 point shooting team, I think Ginebra really has to improve their game by game 2, and I would make sure I will bet on them as they will surely even the series, or maybe double if they still lose since I don't see a 3-0 will happen. Maybe there some kind of rig show happening, but that's what PBA is, it's just like NBA that amazing things could happen, if you know what I mean.

Ginebra will adjust. We know how great Tim Cone was. He won't let Meralco continue the momentum, he will find the best way to stop the possible 2-0 and will try harder to even the series. I'm on the side that Ginebra will focus on their outside defense, that good 3 points percentage of Meralco needs to evaluate and make sure to have a much tighter defense.

And also, Ginebra needs to start strong game 1 is not a good sign for the finals, they need to create good and working plays
to convert their offense.

I'm with you, risking some spare for Ginebra to add some fun while watching the game.
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April 07, 2022, 07:54:39 AM
If you guys are waiting for game 2 odds, you can now check the betting sites because it's already up now.

In my bookie, the odds are as follows.

Ginebra ML > 1.75
Ginebra spread > -1.5

Grab this one early.
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April 07, 2022, 06:25:26 AM
Too much of the controversies guys. Others just fall into the trap and don't anticipate that Meralco win takes Game 1. Too much confidence that they can't stand against Ginebra even for 1 game. Bookies have no way to be part of that rigged or manipulation.

If Game 1 is manipulated, I admire their acting skills. That was hard to act in front of a live audience. Cheesy

Let's just move on especially BGSM fans and be wise in analyzing your next bet.

If you are a fan of Ginebra, you will bet on them every game, and since they lose in game 1, it's wise if we will bet on them in game 2. That was a tough game for them, but I have a feeling that they will bounce back and take game 2, so never doubt the Gin Kings, they are good at coming back.
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April 06, 2022, 06:50:41 PM
Too much of the controversies guys. Others just fall into the trap and don't anticipate that Meralco win takes Game 1. Too much confidence that they can't stand against Ginebra even for 1 game. Bookies have no way to be part of that rigged or manipulation.

If Game 1 is manipulated, I admire their acting skills. That was hard to act in front of a live audience. Cheesy

Let's just move on especially BGSM fans and be wise in analyzing your next bet.
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April 06, 2022, 06:15:46 PM
Same question here? hahaha Grin not sure if something has been cook behind there are post in social media that a tension happen after the game when both teams are going to their locker room, some of my friends who bet form Ginebra are very disappointed and calling it "hulog" as always when bettors can't accept the outcome they will find ways to release that disappointment.
Saw a video circulating online about a tension between Arvin Tolentino and Raymar Jose going into their locker room, looks like trash talking goes beyond the limit. Meralco did a great job on every fields, they won convincingly and there’s no doubt about this. On the other side we know how Ginebra plays the game, I’m pretty sure they will bounce back in Game two they just need to help Bronwlee in scoring and have a greater defense next game.

That's a very good play and win by Mercalco  104 to 91 again the hard work and teamwork from the meralco team is enough to beat the crowd choice ginebra. Alein maliksi and hudge doing great in their game 1 their outside shoot is very good. This conference will bring the crowd a good game not a scripted one. But we can not predict that meralco will be the champion cause we all know that the ginebra is the king of comeback.
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April 06, 2022, 05:06:28 PM
Same question here? hahaha Grin not sure if something has been cook behind there are post in social media that a tension happen after the game when both teams are going to their locker room, some of my friends who bet form Ginebra are very disappointed and calling it "hulog" as always when bettors can't accept the outcome they will find ways to release that disappointment.
Saw a video circulating online about a tension between Arvin Tolentino and Raymar Jose going into their locker room, looks like trash talking goes beyond the limit. Meralco did a great job on every fields, they won convincingly and there’s no doubt about this. On the other side we know how Ginebra plays the game, I’m pretty sure they will bounce back in Game two they just need to help Bronwlee in scoring and have a greater defense next game.

The game 1 line itself is very doubtful for me, I mean Meralco only +2.5? Of course, Ginebra fans will take the spread thinking their team will easily win, but things didn't happen as it seemed, Meralco did not only win but they also beat them by a huge number, in short, Ginebra was not so competitive that game. Let's take them in game 2.
Ginebra fans are still the same, they always think they are the only teams who should always win, well Meralco proves them wrong again and takes the game 1 of the finals. The incident going into the locker room are also normal, though I don't take it seriously maybe the game are just intense and that's why players are very emotional. Game 2 will be a big thing for both teams, Ginebra wont let Meralco to take the lead again, this can be more exciting going into the next game.
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April 06, 2022, 05:05:55 PM
I guess not just Romeo but other notable players as well was part of this trade including Lassiter. Northport will not just select few small names in this trade I guess they need to upgrade their roster this time and if that happens, Romeo will find himself a home again at Northport. I mean it's not bad, as you said it will be on agreements and if the deal is seal then that's it.
They'll take whoever they can and it's been said that Northport is just a farm team for the SMB so, who knows will they be taking? Congrats though to the first match of Meralco and Ginebra, well, 2nd game for Ginebra?  Tongue
Anyway, I've seen a news that Vic Manuel's contract has expired and that post said that he has signed on B League, any other more reliable thoughts and source from that?
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April 06, 2022, 04:37:31 PM
Same question here? hahaha Grin not sure if something has been cook behind there are post in social media that a tension happen after the game when both teams are going to their locker room, some of my friends who bet form Ginebra are very disappointed and calling it "hulog" as always when bettors can't accept the outcome they will find ways to release that disappointment.
Saw a video circulating online about a tension between Arvin Tolentino and Raymar Jose going into their locker room, looks like trash talking goes beyond the limit. Meralco did a great job on every fields, they won convincingly and there’s no doubt about this. On the other side we know how Ginebra plays the game, I’m pretty sure they will bounce back in Game two they just need to help Bronwlee in scoring and have a greater defense next game.

The game 1 line itself is very doubtful for me, I mean Meralco only +2.5? Of course, Ginebra fans will take the spread thinking their team will easily win, but things didn't happen as it seemed, Meralco did not only win but they also beat them by a huge number, in short, Ginebra was not so competitive that game. Let's take them in game 2.
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April 06, 2022, 04:19:03 PM
Meralco drew first blood with a score of 104 -91. What an effort by the role players of Meralco especially Aaron Black who scored 12 points with most of it in the third quarter when Ginebra was making a run to close the gap.

Also, the three-point shooting of the Bolts was amazing, making 11 out of 21 attempts, pretty high for a team not known for making a living in the rainbow area.

Who's the lucky guy who bet for the Bolts today?




Same question here? hahaha Grin not sure if something has been cook behind there are post in social media that a tension happen after the game when both teams are going to their locker room, some of my friends who bet form Ginebra are very disappointed and calling it "hulog" as always when bettors can't accept the outcome they will find ways to release that disappointment.

But it's true, that 3 points conversions of Meralco help them to survive this game.

Better luck next time, more money for sure to flows for Ginebra fans and gamblers will expect them to bounce back.

Meralco seemed to be getting the call.  Smiley

They really are such a great 3 point shooting team, I think Ginebra really has to improve their game by game 2, and I would make sure I will bet on them as they will surely even the series, or maybe double if they still lose since I don't see a 3-0 will happen. Maybe there some kind of rig show happening, but that's what PBA is, it's just like NBA that amazing things could happen, if you know what I mean.
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