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Quote from: mirakal on January 09, 2021, 06:21:44 PM

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Yes, tenure is the best in this kind of career. His age isn't that old to retire and it's not on his mind. I don't know why his main team is doing this to him.
He didn't realize what the man has contributed to them very well. It's sort of an insult to him after being with the team but that's how their career goes. But what would be his reaction if they'll back the offer and go favoring his terms and the likes of it.

Actually according to the news per source posted here, Alaska still offered him the same contract last season, but he doesn't like it anymore, he wants a longer team, not one year so he is looking for another team which can give him that.

Yes, that's why I wonder why his team gave him that kind of contract knowing that he's been part of the team for so long and also played as one of the main men for their roster.
I Will look up to him for more updates about him if he has taken a contract from another team with a longer stay.

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Quote from: blockman on January 09, 2021, 07:57:02 AM

Yes, tenure is the best in this kind of career. His age isn't that old to retire and it's not on his mind. I don't know why his main team is doing this to him.
He didn't realize what the man has contributed to them very well. It's sort of an insult to him after being with the team but that's how their career goes. But what would be his reaction if they'll back the offer and go favoring his terms and the likes of it.

Actually according to the news per source posted here, Alaska still offered him the same contract last season, but he doesn't like it anymore, he wants a longer team, not one year so he is looking for another team which can give him that.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 09, 2021, 05:46:05 AM

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That means he wants some security, one year contract does not look good for a main man, and he is not getting any younger, so I guess it's right to ask to be traded and to look for another team to play, I'm sure lots of teams need his support to succeed, so will see where he would land.

As we know in PBA, there's always politics and that's why he only wants to secure himself to a team that will give him a longer contract. He's right with the decision if ever there's another team that will give him a max contract of around 3-5 years or more, he'll get into that contract.
1 year is just a quick time and he can't determine his career with that term.

That's exactly Manuel's point why he is looking for another team to sign him, I think he would not mind the amount of contract, what he like is to extend the period of contract and I think if Alaska will not give his demand, he might be looking for another team to play.

Yes, tenure is the best in this kind of career. His age isn't that old to retire and it's not on his mind. I don't know why his main team is doing this to him.
He didn't realize what the man has contributed to them very well. It's sort of an insult to him after being with the team but that's how their career goes. But what would be his reaction if they'll back the offer and go favoring his terms and the likes of it.

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Phoenix, NLEX, San Miguel among teams on Vic Manuel's wish list

Which team do you think will sign him?

I hope SMB will not sign him, NLEX and Phoenix will need him for the team to improve, I like Phoenix though since they are close to getting into the finals in the bubble, adding Manuel might realize that.

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Quote from: blockman on January 09, 2021, 05:27:12 AM

Quote from: Maslate on January 08, 2021, 05:54:08 PM

That means he wants some security, one year contract does not look good for a main man, and he is not getting any younger, so I guess it's right to ask to be traded and to look for another team to play, I'm sure lots of teams need his support to succeed, so will see where he would land.

As we know in PBA, there's always politics and that's why he only wants to secure himself to a team that will give him a longer contract. He's right with the decision if ever there's another team that will give him a max contract of around 3-5 years or more, he'll get into that contract.
1 year is just a quick time and he can't determine his career with that term.

That's exactly Manuel's point why he is looking for another team to sign him, I think he would not mind the amount of contract, what he like is to extend the period of contract and I think if Alaska will not give his demand, he might be looking for another team to play.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 08, 2021, 05:54:08 PM

That means he wants some security, one year contract does not look good for a main man, and he is not getting any younger, so I guess it's right to ask to be traded and to look for another team to play, I'm sure lots of teams need his support to succeed, so will see where he would land.

As we know in PBA, there's always politics and that's why he only wants to secure himself to a team that will give him a longer contract. He's right with the decision if ever there's another team that will give him a max contract of around 3-5 years or more, he'll get into that contract.
1 year is just a quick time and he can't determine his career with that term.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 09, 2021, 01:03:45 AM

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Alaska will now be out of the competition if Vic Manuel will depart.

There are surely lots of teams that want Manuel's service considering his position is one of the demand position for any team in the league.

Alaska should do something here. Vic Manuel is willing to stay but there is bitterness which I found reasonable on his part. But if ever things do not go smoothly, he should be traded on non-SMC teams so talents are still spread within different companies.

I hope he will not stay anymore, this is a blessing for the other teams to have the talent of Manuel, maybe he can play again with Calvin Abueava, those old days in Alaska, they were really making the team successful, but of course there's a lot of team where he can fit, just hoping not in a shitty team.

I agree teaming up with Abueva, they've got a good chemistry it won't be hard for them to play together, considering the Fuel Master
if ever the team shows interest with him.

This under size big men knows how to adjust it won't be hard for him to fit with Abueva and the rest of the Fuel master's squad.

Let see what will be the move that Alaska will do with their mainman, unless they'll
give him a token of appreciations by providing a good contract that both ends will benefits.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 08, 2021, 08:14:12 PM

Alaska will now be out of the competition if Vic Manuel will depart.

There are surely lots of teams that want Manuel's service considering his position is one of the demand position for any team in the league.

Alaska should do something here. Vic Manuel is willing to stay but there is bitterness which I found reasonable on his part. But if ever things do not go smoothly, he should be traded on non-SMC teams so talents are still spread within different companies.

I hope he will not stay anymore, this is a blessing for the other teams to have the talent of Manuel, maybe he can play again with Calvin Abueava, those old days in Alaska, they were really making the team successful, but of course there's a lot of team where he can fit, just hoping not in a shitty team.

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Alaska will now be out of the competition if Vic Manuel will depart.

There are surely lots of teams that want Manuel's service considering his position is one of the demand position for any team in the league.

Alaska should do something here. Vic Manuel is willing to stay but there is bitterness which I found reasonable on his part. But if ever things do not go smoothly, he should be traded on non-SMC teams so talents are still spread within different companies.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 08, 2021, 06:14:00 PM

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I hope that this would be ironed out as coach Cariaso is meeting with the Muscle Man, just hate it to see a franchise caliber player go to SMC or MVP teams.

Manuel does not have good future with the Alaska if he is only offered 1 year contract, and then what? what if he is injured, then he won't get a chance to sign to other team, his camp is getting wiser now, I don't want him to play with SMC but I like him to play with MVP teams because whether we like it or not, it's still SMC and MVP teams will dominate the PBA, at least SMC teams now have a chance.

I'm thinking of Meralco and TNT, they need a big man who are aggressive in driving the ball, and I think Manuel will be in demand.

TNT already have a lot of players that are paid well, I think Meralco is the team that would fit for Manuel. They are a defensive team like the Alaska, so it would not be hard for him to adjust, imagine him playing along with the defensive starters of the Meralco Bolts, I think they would really improve.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 08, 2021, 06:05:07 PM

I hope that this would be ironed out as coach Cariaso is meeting with the Muscle Man, just hate it to see a franchise caliber player go to SMC or MVP teams.

Manuel does not have good future with the Alaska if he is only offered 1 year contract, and then what? what if he is injured, then he won't get a chance to sign to other team, his camp is getting wiser now, I don't want him to play with SMC but I like him to play with MVP teams because whether we like it or not, it's still SMC and MVP teams will dominate the PBA, at least SMC teams now have a chance.

I'm thinking of Meralco and TNT, they need a big man who are aggressive in driving the ball, and I think Manuel will be in demand.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 08, 2021, 05:54:08 PM

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Breaking news!
Vic Manuel wants out of Alaska

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VIC Manuel, a lateblooming forward from a small school who rose to become one of the premier big men in the PBA, feels his stay with Alaska is at an end.

On Friday, Manuel said he has asked his agent, Danny Espiritu, to explore all possible options after his contract with the Aces expired at the end of the year.

No more veterans left in Alaska, their main man is leaving and looking for an opportunity to play with other team. What team do you think will sign him, does he fit with the TNT or Magnolia?

This is his statement according to the link you shared

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The only call his camp received from Alaska, he added, was to Espiritu offering Manuel a one-year deal with the same terms as his last contract with the Aces.

"Kung ganon lang ang gagawin, aalis na lang ako sa kanila," the 33-year old forward told SPIN.ph, a tinge of bitterness in his high-pitch voice.

"Sana i-trade na lang ako," he added.

That means he wants some security, one year contract does not look good for a main man, and he is not getting any younger, so I guess it's right to ask to be traded and to look for another team to play, I'm sure lots of teams need his support to succeed, so will see where he would land.

Now, this is not good on Alaska. Vic Manuel is their main man at the moment and you are right, he is not getting younger so they should not taken him for granted and they should communicate to him from time to time on what's his plan on the future.

I hope that this would be ironed out as coach Cariaso is meeting with the Muscle Man, just hate it to see a franchise caliber player go to SMC or MVP teams.

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Breaking news!
Vic Manuel wants out of Alaska

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VIC Manuel, a lateblooming forward from a small school who rose to become one of the premier big men in the PBA, feels his stay with Alaska is at an end.

On Friday, Manuel said he has asked his agent, Danny Espiritu, to explore all possible options after his contract with the Aces expired at the end of the year.

No more veterans left in Alaska, their main man is leaving and looking for an opportunity to play with other team. What team do you think will sign him, does he fit with the TNT or Magnolia?

This is his statement according to the link you shared

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The only call his camp received from Alaska, he added, was to Espiritu offering Manuel a one-year deal with the same terms as his last contract with the Aces.

"Kung ganon lang ang gagawin, aalis na lang ako sa kanila," the 33-year old forward told SPIN.ph, a tinge of bitterness in his high-pitch voice.

"Sana i-trade na lang ako," he added.

That means he wants some security, one year contract does not look good for a main man, and he is not getting any younger, so I guess it's right to ask to be traded and to look for another team to play, I'm sure lots of teams need his support to succeed, so will see where he would land.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 07, 2021, 04:24:59 PM

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they don't pressure themselves a lot and they just have to play like they are having fun, also coach Yeng for sure learn a lot in the bubble.

I heard this in an interview, I think it was Jericho Cruz who said that when he was named as the best player of the game, and it really help them.

I remember this one also but i've got another interpretation on that one. When NLEX had a losing streak in the bubble (which is 3 or 4 games i think) coach Yeng told his boys to not pressure themselves as coach Yeng already knew that that they are already in the brink of elimination and he understand that because they only have a few days of practicing together due to the pandemic.

Coach Yeng loves hardworking guys and don't even care who you are and what is your name. As long as you bare the scolding and work hard, players will have future under his watch. He is making a "nobody" to somebody in the PBA, JR Quinahan, Lurdy Tugady, Cyrus Baguio to name a few.

We all remember it because we were consistently watching PBA games, yes, and that was really good of him telling his men to let loose so they can enjoy and suddenly they start winning. Maybe this is what they need, don't pressure themselves and contribute in any way, they should consider themselves as brother to each other as the recipe for success is always team work.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 07, 2021, 05:12:30 PM

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Coach Yeng loves hardworking guys and don't even care who you are and what is your name. As long as you bare the scolding and work hard, players will have future under his watch. He is making a "nobody" to somebody in the PBA, JR Quinahan, Lurdy Tugady, Cyrus Baguio to name a few.

Agree and he built his championship team from a scratch during his prime, Red Bull and Rain or Shine.

Talented players are nothing if they aren't intimidated and have respect for their coach.

Coach Yeng is so strict that even a top player received a bad word from him, no exception which is good. Lots of players become popular under Coach Yeng's name because of the way he handled those.

Rain or shine is a good team under his coaching, Paul Lee was the one leading the team and they were really successful. I don't how many years he is coaching the NLEX but this team IMO needs to improve more for them to become a championship contender.

Coach Yeng is not getting any younger anymore. he is already 61 years old, soon he will retire so it's a good accomplishment to bring his team to the Finals before he retires, and maybe they can snatch a win, who knows.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 07, 2021, 04:24:59 PM

Coach Yeng loves hardworking guys and don't even care who you are and what is your name. As long as you bare the scolding and work hard, players will have future under his watch. He is making a "nobody" to somebody in the PBA, JR Quinahan, Lurdy Tugady, Cyrus Baguio to name a few.

Agree and he built his championship team from a scratch during his prime, Red Bull and Rain or Shine.

Talented players are nothing if they aren't intimidated and have respect for their coach.

Coach Yeng is so strict that even a top player received a bad word from him, no exception which is good. Lots of players become popular under Coach Yeng's name because of the way he handled those.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 07, 2021, 07:45:54 AM

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they don't pressure themselves a lot and they just have to play like they are having fun, also coach Yeng for sure learn a lot in the bubble.

I heard this in an interview, I think it was Jericho Cruz who said that when he was named as the best player of the game, and it really help them.

I remember this one also but i've got another interpretation on that one. When NLEX had a losing streak in the bubble (which is 3 or 4 games i think) coach Yeng told his boys to not pressure themselves as coach Yeng already knew that that they are already in the brink of elimination and he understand that because they only have a few days of practicing together due to the pandemic.

Coach Yeng loves hardworking guys and don't even care who you are and what is your name. As long as you bare the scolding and work hard, players will have future under his watch. He is making a "nobody" to somebody in the PBA, JR Quinahan, Lurdy Tugady, Cyrus Baguio to name a few.

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Quote from: harizen on January 06, 2021, 06:05:20 PM

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AFAIK, it's just another conference that we used to watch and not a new season. With still the numbers of active cases, we would likely still to see them on a bubble but if ever they decide to play on courts like Araneta, they'll just have to close it down for the audience/fans.

Guys, you might have some confusion. This year is a "new season". A season lasted a year with 3 conferences but since Covid-19 halted the last year's season (45th season) for 6 months, only the All-Filipino Cup was done.

If this year isn't a new season then the Commissioners Cup should be followed which is not possible for now because of imports and it shouldn't take 3 months to rest after the last conference.

The league even has a Rookie Draft in March so this year will be a new season, the "46th PBA season". Commissioners and Governors Cup are still in question depends on what will be the status of the pandemic here in the country.

Thanks for that clarification. I was confused about that and I thought that it's just another conference since it's really another conference that we're seeing.
I've comprehended that the new season would be more conferences from where we are today.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 07, 2021, 05:54:02 AM

It actually takes time to build a team and to make it successful, in the bubble, this team surprised us, we thought they can easily be eliminated as they had a bad start but suddenly they played well, so I think they learn from that, they don't pressure themselves a lot and they just have to play like they are having fun, also coach Yeng for sure learn a lot in the bubble.

If I remembered it right before the last few games that they'll have inside the bubble,
not sure if it's coach Yeng or one of his player who said that they are just enjoying it so they'll start winning.

Though that winning streak is not enough to avail moving to the playoff but the experienced and the brotherhood has made, this incoming season will serve as another test for them.

Winning the title might be tough but it's always possible if the team are all determine in winning.
They'll not be in the league if they are not deserving, it's just the blending and the dedications that
needs to adjust from one another.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 07, 2021, 05:54:02 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on January 06, 2021, 06:16:32 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on January 06, 2021, 06:05:34 PM

We are still gonna see these games in NLEX.

NLEX signs big men Quinahan, Soyud, Miranda to new contracts

Coach yeng really love to play with guys who really work hard, especially with Soyud, he has really improve as far as I can see.
Congratulations to them, hopefully NLEX will improve next season, coach has not been in the semis or finals anymore, I love to see him bring his team again.

Those big men are worth to sign as they are relly helping the team inside, they are not that star caliber but really trying their best
to work it out and play their role.

Seems that the badboy coach needs to go back and remember his old tactics or he needs to mixed things up with his squad.

Looking forward for this team if they'll show something interesting this coming
new season, as the competition is reallu tough from each franchise who are
aiming to win the title.

It actually takes time to build a team and to make it successful, in the bubble, this team surprised us, we thought they can easily be eliminated as they had a bad start but suddenly they played well, so I think they learn from that,

Jericho Cruz is such a big factor for the success of the team, they can't just rely on Kiefer Ravena, though he is really good but he can't carry his team. What I admire about coach Yeng's coaching is even their big man are taught how to shot 3's and that's really effective.

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they don't pressure themselves a lot and they just have to play like they are having fun, also coach Yeng for sure learn a lot in the bubble.

I heard this in an interview, I think it was Jericho Cruz who said that when he was named as the best player of the game, and it really help them.

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