2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 563.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 21, 2021, 03:19:26 PM

What platforms allow betting on the PBA?

There are no games yet for PBA games. The next season starts on April 9, 2021. I've seen some bets before on sportsbet.io and cloudbet but in stake, I haven't but maybe someone who did bet through stake can testify if there's one if it comes back.

Quote from: OgNasty on January 21, 2021, 03:19:26 PM

Is there an online outlet that will stream these games for free?

Yes, usually you can just search it on Facebook search box during a scheduled match. In YT, I don't think I've seen one but if there will be, I think it's just another guy who wants to stream it for free.

Quote from: OgNasty on January 21, 2021, 03:19:26 PM

I've never heard of this league, but would be very curious to see how different it is from the NBA.

It's like the NBA of the Philippines. There are conferences that allow imports and a conference for all Filipino players.

Quote from: OgNasty on January 21, 2021, 03:19:26 PM

Have any of the Philippine Basketball Association players ever made it to the NBA or the G-league?

The recent one on G League is Kai Sotto, a very young and tall kid. But in NBA, there should be one before, I think more than a decade or two and it should be Johnny Abarrientos but I can't remember what happened on why it didn't pursue.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 21, 2021, 03:19:26 PM

What platforms allow betting on the PBA?

Online crypto bookies like Sportsbet, Nitrogen offer betting odds in the PBA.

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Is there an online outlet that will stream these games for free?

AFAIR, they broadcast their games free on Facebook and we, locals watch it free on local television.

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I've never heard of this league, but would be very curious to see how different it is from the NBA.

It's the oldest league in Asia and the style of plays Filipino players adapt is not that much different from the Americans as they are the ones who introduced this game to us (someone correct me if i'm wrong on this). Basketball in the Philippines is like a religion and almost every kid know how to play it but unfortunately we are not too gifted with physical aspect needed in this sport

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 21, 2021, 03:19:26 PM

Have any of the Philippine Basketball Association players ever made it to the NBA or the G-league?

So far no pure Filipino blood make it to the NBA but there are prospects like the name Kai Sotto, he is now playing on the G-league.

Jordan Clarkson and Jalen Green have Filipino roots in them and the former have played for the Gilas squad in Asian Games while the latter have yet to see action with the Philippine squad.

Nice to see you inquiring on our favorite league OG and mind you, we played and bet for this game online or offline, sort of a past time.

Hope other users will add inputs to your questions.

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If i may add, the PBA bubble just concluded last December and the opening of the next season will be on April 2021.

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What platforms allow betting on the PBA? Is there an online outlet that will stream these games for free? I've never heard of this league, but would be very curious to see how different it is from the NBA. Have any of the Philippine Basketball Association players ever made it to the NBA or the G-league?

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 21, 2021, 07:53:04 AM

While we are seeing some players are signing a new contract, we did not noticed that Sol still has no contract in the PBA.

Do you think it's the end of this career?

Here's the story.

Still without a team, Sol Mercado hopes to revive PBA career

With new younger generations of stars, the competitions inside the league is really tough. It's interesting if which team will sign him up kowing that he already past from his prime.

Though he's still aiming to play it's tough decision for each team as there are fresh legs who can play the same position as him with a very high chance developing their skills. PBA's old timers will be lucky if there's still coach who wanted their service to play alongside with thier team.

Best of luck for Sol, hope to see him this coming season,.

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While we are seeing some players are signing a new contract, we did not noticed that Sol still has no contract in the PBA.

Do you think it's the end of this career?

Here's the story.

Still without a team, Sol Mercado hopes to revive PBA career

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Quote from: mirakal on January 21, 2021, 02:33:21 AM

Roger Pogoy downplays PBA Awards snub: ‘Champion ang gusto ko’

Good mindset of him, we know that Pogoy is not a type of player that loves to shine only in the team, he is very humble and wants to help his team to win, and that's the reason why I believe Pogoy will soon be a champion. TNT should give him a max contract, I don't know his current salary now but if he will get signed again, I wish TNT will value his contribution like Castro.

His day of going to the podium will come. RR Pogoy is one of PBA's no-nonsense guy, all hardwork when he is on the court, for sure he will be rewarded with an award for that.

The good thing about Pogoy is he is a two way kind of player, plays offense and defense and seldom he will be benched for an off night.

AFAIK, his salary is not yet on the maximum but who knows someday he will get that.

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Roger Pogoy downplays PBA Awards snub: ‘Champion ang gusto ko’

Good mindset of him, we know that Pogoy is not a type of player that loves to shine only in the team, he is very humble and wants to help his team to win, and that's the reason why I believe Pogoy will soon be a champion. TNT should give him a max contract, I don't know his current salary now but if he will get signed again, I wish TNT will value his contribution like Castro.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 20, 2021, 05:47:43 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on January 19, 2021, 06:58:39 AM

How about Parks, do we see here the new Calvin Abueva? Grin

He can win on the statistics but hard for him to win the other criteria.

I get that point, yes it's possible because Ray Parks loves to score but he does not have a lot of fans compared to the most humble guy in the PBA which is JMF and the beast Calvin. Maybe because he is still new and he hasn't won a championship yet in this career, it needs a championship win for a superstar to get respect.

Quote from: Russlenat on January 20, 2021, 05:47:43 AM

Fajardo almost dominate in most criteria I believe, and that's the reason he easily win the award and no one really complain why he won consecutive BPC.

I hope he will come back healthy soon with the same contribution in the floor so these complains would not exist anymore.

About Calvin, maybe we will see a better Calvin next season.

Calvin Abueva vows to do even better after 'bitin' comeback season

JMF always does, if he struggles, he can still get a double double, at least 10 rebounds and 10 points, and if he is having a good game, he can make 15-20 rebound and 30-40 points, that's how dominant he is.

For Calvin Abueva, he doesn't need to say that because we already know he will do better, we did not even expect that he will have a good performance in the bubble after years of break.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 19, 2021, 06:58:39 AM

How about Parks, do we see here the new Calvin Abueva? Grin

He can win on the statistics but hard for him to win the other criteria.
Fajardo almost dominate in most criteria I believe, and that's the reason he easily win the award and no one really complain why he won consecutive BPC.

I hope he will come back healthy soon with the same contribution in the floor so these complains would not exist anymore.

About Calvin, maybe we will see a better Calvin next season.

Calvin Abueva vows to do even better after 'bitin' comeback season

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surely people will not agree with the decision, I'm also shocked by the announcement of the winner but, I guess we can't complain since it's their decision, they can say who they want to announce as a winner, but for the fans, they know who the real winner is, I think the 30% press and media votes give way for pringle since as we know how popular gins, but I don't know, anyway congrats to the BPC pringle.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 19, 2021, 06:07:32 AM

Actually it's true that you can't please everyone, we have our favorite players and we are expecting that they will win an award because we believe they are contributing to the team as expected. However, the winners are chosen in different criteria, it's not an public election where they will explain, it's their league, they should not be question.

As a fans I understand how some felt but this too shall pass.

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40% average statistical points.
30% press and media votes.
25% players' votes.
5% Commissioner's Office.

Made a little research on the criteria for selecting the BPC and above is what i found.

Even if you are the SP's frontrunner and you are not friendly with the media and with your co-players, i think you would not made it.

The above criteria explains why Abueva have not gotten even a single BPC award and this is also the reason why Fajardo, a talented and very humble, friendly to the media got 8 BPCs and 6 MVPs.

How about Parks, do we see here the new Calvin Abueva? Grin

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 18, 2021, 08:01:25 PM

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Quote from: Japinat on January 18, 2021, 11:44:22 AM

How about you guys, do you agree with the results?

I agree with the results of BPC. No complaints. What fans are complaining about is the other awards and especially how's the Top 5 have been chosen. Statistically based, we are expecting that all Top 5 prior to the awards night will be the finalist but other players got in due to the percentage of voting.

I'm expecting Ray Parks to be the number 2, even higher than my expectation to Abueva.

If PBA were able to explain this, then good so that there will be no accusation of "politics" involved here. But for those people that will complain that Stanley Pringle isn't deserving, then I think it's not appropriate.

PBA fans needs to understand how this vote was being count. The people deserve to question on how the league organizers selected those awardees. This needed having a clean explanation knowing that rumors will always flow around in terms of manipulations and politics inside the league.

Though I also agree with you, with Pringle's being pick as the BPC he deserve it and we seen him in action as the most productive and consistent player to help his team to win the tittle.

Actually it's true that you can't please everyone, we have our favorite players and we are expecting that they will win an award because we believe they are contributing to the team as expected. However, the winners are chosen in different criteria, it's not an public election where they will explain, it's their league, they should not be question.

As a fans I understand how some felt but this too shall pass.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 18, 2021, 11:44:22 AM

How about you guys, do you agree with the results?

I agree with the results of BPC. No complaints. What fans are complaining about is the other awards and especially how's the Top 5 have been chosen. Statistically based, we are expecting that all Top 5 prior to the awards night will be the finalist but other players got in due to the percentage of voting.

I'm expecting Ray Parks to be the number 2, even higher than my expectation to Abueva.

If PBA were able to explain this, then good so that there will be no accusation of "politics" involved here. But for those people that will complain that Stanley Pringle isn't deserving, then I think it's not appropriate.

PBA fans needs to understand how this vote was being count. The people deserve to question on how the league organizers selected those awardees. This needed having a clean explanation knowing that rumors will always flow around in terms of manipulations and politics inside the league.

Though I also agree with you, with Pringle's being pick as the BPC he deserve it and we seen him in action as the most productive and consistent player to help his team to win the tittle.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 18, 2021, 04:03:03 PM

Quote from: Japinat on January 18, 2021, 11:44:22 AM

How about you guys, do you agree with the results?

I agree with the results of BPC. No complaints. What fans are complaining about is the other awards and especially how's the Top 5 have been chosen. Statistically based, we are expecting that all Top 5 prior to the awards night will be the finalist but other players got in due to the percentage of voting.

I'm expecting Ray Parks to be the number 2, even higher than my expectation to Abueva.

If PBA were able to explain this, then good so that there will be no accusation of "politics" involved here. But for those people that will complain that Stanley Pringle isn't deserving, then I think it's not appropriate.

I also agree with the results thus, can we change them? no. The fandom has too much disappointment because they haven't seen their idols won the awards of they didn't see this coming. But if the PBA management has to explain all the necessary details how they'd picked those awardees, then that will make those complainants or not satisfied fans to be satisfied if they will consider the explanation. But if it doesn't still stop them complaining, there's nothing much that can be done for them.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 18, 2021, 11:44:22 AM

How about you guys, do you agree with the results?

I agree with the results of BPC. No complaints. What fans are complaining about is the other awards and especially how's the Top 5 have been chosen. Statistically based, we are expecting that all Top 5 prior to the awards night will be the finalist but other players got in due to the percentage of voting.

I'm expecting Ray Parks to be the number 2, even higher than my expectation to Abueva.

If PBA were able to explain this, then good so that there will be no accusation of "politics" involved here. But for those people that will complain that Stanley Pringle isn't deserving, then I think it's not appropriate.

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Looks like there are some complaints from the fans on the awards that was previous given to the winners.

Fans' corner: PBA needs to explain questionable criteria for awards

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One of the most questioned parts is the computation for the Best Player of the Conference. Statistical points make up the majority of the criteria at 40 percent. PBA Press Corps votes are set at 30 percent followed by 25 percent coming from the players and five percent from the league office. However, many fans are at loss on how the 500 votes from the PBA comprises only of the five percent of the criteria when in the totality of points, it is much higher than the total points from the players' votes of 180 votes which should be at 25%.

How about you guys, do you agree with the results?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 18, 2021, 05:45:48 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on January 17, 2021, 04:50:29 PM

Stanley Pringle deserves the BPC award.

He's the most consistent player in Ginebra in the bubble up to the Finals. We all see that. Others even consider him as the Finals MVP.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/ginebra-s-stanley-pringle-named-pba-best-player-of-the-conference-a795-20210117

I agree on this one mate. We all saw who put water whenever the TNT is on fire in the finals.

The only thing i wonder is why Ray Parks who is the leader in SP didn't even make into the "Elite 5".

I guess it's based on the impact of the team? Instead of him, they get Poy Erram.. I'm really not sure of this one too.
Do they give the criteria of judging on this award?

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 17, 2021, 04:57:16 AM

I'm hoping Calvin will win here?

He did not won the BPC award but at least he is on the Elite 5, his only award aside from ROY if i'm not mistaken.

Calvin will eventually get an MVP award, I'm betting on him next season.. Hard because Fajardo will be coming back, but if Calvin will continue to play the kind of basketball he showed in the bubble, he has a big shot.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 17, 2021, 04:50:29 PM

Stanley Pringle deserves the BPC award.

He's the most consistent player in Ginebra in the bubble up to the Finals. We all see that. Others even consider him as the Finals MVP.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/ginebra-s-stanley-pringle-named-pba-best-player-of-the-conference-a795-20210117

I agree on this one mate. We all saw who put water whenever the TNT is on fire in the finals.

The only thing i wonder is why Ray Parks who is the leader in SP didn't even make into the "Elite 5".

Quote from: Russlenat on January 17, 2021, 04:57:16 AM

I'm hoping Calvin will win here?

He did not won the BPC award but at least he is on the Elite 5, his only award aside from ROY if i'm not mistaken.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 17, 2021, 04:50:29 PM

Stanley Pringle deserves the BPC award.

He's the most consistent player in Ginebra in the bubble up to the Finals. We all see that. Others even consider him as the Finals MVP.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/ginebra-s-stanley-pringle-named-pba-best-player-of-the-conference-a795-20210117

I agree, well deserved, they won the championship and he did a great contribution to that.

Also, we have to talk about other awards, written from same article.

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Thompson was awarded the Samboy Lim Sportsmanship Award while Caperal was named the bubble season's Most Improved Player.

I didn't expect Caperal would win, such an underrated player but we all saw his contribution to the team.

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Stanley Pringle deserves the BPC award.

He's the most consistent player in Ginebra in the bubble up to the Finals. We all see that. Others even consider him as the Finals MVP.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/ginebra-s-stanley-pringle-named-pba-best-player-of-the-conference-a795-20210117

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