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January 29, 2021, 02:23:02 AM

Hmmm... I was surprised by the Breaking News. No one sees this coming.

Terrafirma sends CJ Perez to San Miguel in blockbuster deal

What's the blockbuster deal here? What Terrafirma is thinking? They claimed it's hard to CJ Perez as he was the ace of the team but looked at those players they get in return. Hard to think that there's an under the table discussion here. SMB now added again another great talent.

Lower-tier teams now become more of a farming team but that would change if Terrafirma will able to pick some of the best draftees in the upcoming draft. Lots of rumored good prospects there.

The trade however is still subject to PBA approval but likely close to be approved as Terrafirma themselves claims it's a fair trade.
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January 28, 2021, 06:03:50 PM
Nice information guys, I never expect that it's happened in the PBA before, that was a huge amount compared to the contract the players are getting this season or in the past few season. I'm still not a big fan of PBA that time but I know some popular players like Kenneth Duremdes of course, that guy deserved a huge contract.
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January 28, 2021, 05:09:53 PM
I think the max year is only 3 years, I dig a little and see this news, it's Fajardo signed a 3 year deal with the SMB, but this news was in 2015 and I think Fajardo is still already the best player in the PBA that time.

https://www.philstar.com/the-freeman/cebu-sports/2015/09/04/1496251/fajardo-set-sign-3-year-multi-million-deal-smb

Also, speaking of salary, we can check their monthly salary thru this page.

https://web.facebook.com/992159490867171/posts/top-1-5-highest-paid-pba-players-this-2019-pba-seasontop-1-june-mar-fajardoteam-/2182007908548984/?_rdc=1&_rdr
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Top 1-5 Highest paid PBA players this 2019 PBA season

Top 1 - June Mar Fajardo
Team: San Miguel Beermen
Salary: P465,000 per month

Top 2 - Greg Slaughter
Team: Brgy. Ginebra
Salary: P450,000 per month

Top 3 - Calvin Abueva
Team: Phoenix Pulse
Salary: P440,000 per month

Top 4 - Asi Taulava
Team: NLEX Road Warriors
Salary: P435,000 per month

Top 5 - Arwind Santos
Team: San Miguel Beermen
Salary: P425,000 per month

Update as of Feb 2019

- Kubrador

No one gets 500k per month, that's how low the salary in the PBA compared to international basketball league.
Yeah, that's also what I think about the max contract should be in 3 years. I've mentioned Kenneth Duremdes having the most contract because I've read an article that said that he got a max contract of 8 years but that was a very long time ago. I thought with the recent years, it was Arwind Santos that has the highest paid in a contract.

I think this is what you are talking about.

This still stands as the richest PBA player contract - at least on record



That's 80 million pesos, that's probably the biggest as that is equivalent to 10 million per year or php833,000 per month.



Meanwhile, we have the latest update on Manuel's status.

NorthPort admits Alaska star Vic Manuel offered in trade negotiations
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January 28, 2021, 04:47:23 PM
I think the max year is only 3 years, I dig a little and see this news, it's Fajardo signed a 3 year deal with the SMB, but this news was in 2015 and I think Fajardo is still already the best player in the PBA that time.

https://www.philstar.com/the-freeman/cebu-sports/2015/09/04/1496251/fajardo-set-sign-3-year-multi-million-deal-smb

Also, speaking of salary, we can check their monthly salary thru this page.

https://web.facebook.com/992159490867171/posts/top-1-5-highest-paid-pba-players-this-2019-pba-seasontop-1-june-mar-fajardoteam-/2182007908548984/?_rdc=1&_rdr
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Top 1-5 Highest paid PBA players this 2019 PBA season

Top 1 - June Mar Fajardo
Team: San Miguel Beermen
Salary: P465,000 per month

Top 2 - Greg Slaughter
Team: Brgy. Ginebra
Salary: P450,000 per month

Top 3 - Calvin Abueva
Team: Phoenix Pulse
Salary: P440,000 per month

Top 4 - Asi Taulava
Team: NLEX Road Warriors
Salary: P435,000 per month

Top 5 - Arwind Santos
Team: San Miguel Beermen
Salary: P425,000 per month

Update as of Feb 2019

- Kubrador

No one gets 500k per month, that's how low the salary in the PBA compared to international basketball league.
Yeah, that's also what I think about the max contract should be in 3 years. I've mentioned Kenneth Duremdes having the most contract because I've read an article that said that he got a max contract of 8 years but that was a very long time ago. I thought with the recent years, it was Arwind Santos that has the highest paid in a contract.
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January 28, 2021, 06:32:14 AM
I think Alaska realized it too late and they're trying to offer him 2 years contract then. But that wouldn't change his mind I guess.
Why 2 years of contract? Why make it 3?
I don't know what the max year contract for a PBA player but I see some players getting signed for 3 yeas, probably that's the max, so why can't the Alaska give that to Manuel?
I don't know what's with them. They seem to be reliable with a 2-year contract to Manuel and don't think he should get on board for a longer contract.
About the longest or max contract in history, I think that's Duremdes and with our current time. I haven't seen someone max more than 3 years too.

I think the max year is only 3 years, I dig a little and see this news, it's Fajardo signed a 3 year deal with the SMB, but this news was in 2015 and I think Fajardo is still already the best player in the PBA that time.

https://www.philstar.com/the-freeman/cebu-sports/2015/09/04/1496251/fajardo-set-sign-3-year-multi-million-deal-smb

Also, speaking of salary, we can check their monthly salary thru this page.

https://web.facebook.com/992159490867171/posts/top-1-5-highest-paid-pba-players-this-2019-pba-seasontop-1-june-mar-fajardoteam-/2182007908548984/?_rdc=1&_rdr
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Top 1-5 Highest paid PBA players this 2019 PBA season

Top 1 - June Mar Fajardo
Team: San Miguel Beermen
Salary: P465,000 per month

Top 2 - Greg Slaughter
Team: Brgy. Ginebra
Salary: P450,000 per month

Top 3 - Calvin Abueva
Team: Phoenix Pulse
Salary: P440,000 per month

Top 4 - Asi Taulava
Team: NLEX Road Warriors
Salary: P435,000 per month

Top 5 - Arwind Santos
Team: San Miguel Beermen
Salary: P425,000 per month

Update as of Feb 2019

- Kubrador

No one gets 500k per month, that's how low the salary in the PBA compared to international basketball league.
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January 28, 2021, 06:14:59 AM
I think Alaska realized it too late and they're trying to offer him 2 years contract then. But that wouldn't change his mind I guess.
Why 2 years of contract? Why make it 3?
I don't know what the max year contract for a PBA player but I see some players getting signed for 3 yeas, probably that's the max, so why can't the Alaska give that to Manuel?
I don't know what's with them. They seem to be reliable with a 2-year contract to Manuel and don't think he should get on board for a longer contract.
About the longest or max contract in history, I think that's Duremdes and with our current time. I haven't seen someone max more than 3 years too.
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January 28, 2021, 05:57:43 AM
I don't think that Alaska will trade him to the teams he want to play, they will retain him as a punishment for what he did (hope i'm wrong).

For me, it's best if Manuel doesn't name his preferred teams so that other teams will make some offers too. In NBA for example, if a player asks for a trade, they will not publicly name their preferred teams and let the negotiation happens privately as what matters here is, they want to get out on that team asap.

The boundary now becomes limited as Manuel's preferred teams might not even interested in acquiring him as it will cost them destroying their current lineup although there's a talk happening but not a priority.

Teams are busy now on the PBA draft and seeing the current status of PBA, most are focused on rebuilding so yes, thru young cores. Manuel is now on his post-prime status so he should be careful on his next move. Alaska is now eyeing a big man on the PBA draft. Let's see if there's progress about his after the PBA draft.

He did not name one team only, I think he does discourage the weak teams to sign him as he wants to only play in a championship contender team. SMB has capability of spending for him but I think they will not sign him, we don't know yet which team he will land but the scary part is we still don't have any update regarding his status about asking to be traded to other team.
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January 27, 2021, 05:53:39 PM
I don't think that Alaska will trade him to the teams he want to play, they will retain him as a punishment for what he did (hope i'm wrong).

For me, it's best if Manuel doesn't name his preferred teams so that other teams will make some offers too. In NBA for example, if a player asks for a trade, they will not publicly name their preferred teams and let the negotiation happens privately as what matters here is, they want to get out on that team asap.

The boundary now becomes limited as Manuel's preferred teams might not even interested in acquiring him as it will cost them destroying their current lineup although there's a talk happening but not a priority.

Teams are busy now on the PBA draft and seeing the current status of PBA, most are focused on rebuilding so yes, thru young cores. Manuel is now on his post-prime status so he should be careful on his next move. Alaska is now eyeing a big man on the PBA draft. Let's see if there's progress about his after the PBA draft.
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January 27, 2021, 05:49:00 PM
Manuel has a high value in the market, why would he stay in a team that does not value him based on his market value.
Giving 1 year contract only while other teams are giving years of contract on a player or players that helps to contribute for the success of the team.

The problem for Manuel is, he brings that issue in public making it much worst. If only, there's a negotiation made before crying to the public then there will be no problem. I'm not siding with Alaska here but if I'm the team owner or who else is responsible for handling this type of negotiation, I also want a good trade with Manuel.
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January 27, 2021, 05:29:26 PM
I think Alaska realized it too late and they're trying to offer him 2 years contract then. But that wouldn't change his mind I guess.
Why 2 years of contract? Why make it 3?
I don't know what the max year contract for a PBA player but I see some players getting signed for 3 yeas, probably that's the max, so why can't the Alaska give that to Manuel?
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January 27, 2021, 07:28:03 AM
Looks like there's a tension happening between the management and Manuel, I hope they will just let him go, or find some player to trade for him. Manuel is like James Harden, he is not anymore happy playing with his current team.
That's his first statement but it could change whenever he finally decides to truly get out or still give the team a chance and grab the contract that they're offering to him.
Manuel has a high value in the market, why would he stay in a team that does not value him based on his market value.
Giving 1 year contract only while other teams are giving years of contract on a player or players that helps to contribute for the success of the team.
I think Alaska realized it too late and they're trying to offer him 2 years contract then. But that wouldn't change his mind I guess.

That is possible. It's a franchise to franchise talk and they won't accept him as punishment. But we'll still see what will happen to him, hoping the best for him.

I don't wanna see that and it's not possible that Alaska will only sit him, fans will protest, lol.. that's really unfair, they are using their power to give a player with no choice, a capital punishment IMO.
We know how the association works. They did to some players and disallow them to play but suddenly they allow it but it took for too long.
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January 27, 2021, 06:22:32 AM
Looks like there's a tension happening between the management and Manuel, I hope they will just let him go, or find some player to trade for him. Manuel is like James Harden, he is not anymore happy playing with his current team.
That's his first statement but it could change whenever he finally decides to truly get out or still give the team a chance and grab the contract that they're offering to him.
Manuel has a high value in the market, why would he stay in a team that does not value him based on his market value.
Giving 1 year contract only while other teams are giving years of contract on a player or players that helps to contribute for the success of the team.

Announcing publicly that he did not want to play for Alaska anymore, backfired on him and he may suffer the consequences on doing that.

I don't think that Alaska will trade him to the teams he want to play, they will retain him as a punishment for what he did (hope i'm wrong).

He may sit out, Alaska can afford as they are not title contender anymore.

Slaughter and Manuel are victim of this old rules of the PBA regarding free agents. Good thing they are scrapping that rules next year.
That is possible. It's a franchise to franchise talk and they won't accept him as punishment. But we'll still see what will happen to him, hoping the best for him.

I don't wanna see that and it's not possible that Alaska will only sit him, fans will protest, lol.. that's really unfair, they are using their power to give a player with no choice, a capital punishment IMO.
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January 26, 2021, 09:02:43 AM
Looks like there's a tension happening between the management and Manuel, I hope they will just let him go, or find some player to trade for him. Manuel is like James Harden, he is not anymore happy playing with his current team.
That's his first statement but it could change whenever he finally decides to truly get out or still give the team a chance and grab the contract that they're offering to him.

Announcing publicly that he did not want to play for Alaska anymore, backfired on him and he may suffer the consequences on doing that.

I don't think that Alaska will trade him to the teams he want to play, they will retain him as a punishment for what he did (hope i'm wrong).

He may sit out, Alaska can afford as they are not title contender anymore.

Slaughter and Manuel are victim of this old rules of the PBA regarding free agents. Good thing they are scrapping that rules next year.
That is possible. It's a franchise to franchise talk and they won't accept him as punishment. But we'll still see what will happen to him, hoping the best for him.
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January 26, 2021, 06:48:20 AM
Alaska Aces still aiming to get Vic Manuel on their side. Now the story goes on that Alaska and Manuel are summarized in this article.
(https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/30774737/aces-talks-manuel-reiterate-desire-re-sign-him)

Alaska is not aiming to get Vic. They just want a fair trade which is reasonable as Manuel already voiced his concern to the media. Since they still own the rights of Vic Manuel, it's reasonable to get a good deal out of this. If no teams will offer a good trade, Manuel has no choice but to either still play on Alaska or just sit out. Manuel is still lucky that for let's say no deal was done with other teams, he can still play and sign a 2 year with Alaska.

The message of Alaska was strong;
"If there's none (equal value), then he has to decide, come to talk to us again or just sit it out. The organization will move without him. It's no problem."

Announcing publicly that he did not want to play for Alaska anymore, backfired on him and he may suffer the consequences on doing that.

I don't think that Alaska will trade him to the teams he want to play, they will retain him as a punishment for what he did (hope i'm wrong).

He may sit out, Alaska can afford as they are not title contender anymore.

Slaughter and Manuel are victim of this old rules of the PBA regarding free agents. Good thing they are scrapping that rules next year.
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January 26, 2021, 06:47:08 AM
Alaska Aces still aiming to get Vic Manuel on their side. Now the story goes on that Alaska and Manuel are summarized in this article.
(https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/30774737/aces-talks-manuel-reiterate-desire-re-sign-him)

Alaska is not aiming to get Vic. They just want a fair trade which is reasonable as Manuel already voiced his concern to the media. Since they still own the rights of Vic Manuel, it's reasonable to get a good deal out of this. If no teams will offer a good trade, Manuel has no choice but to either still play on Alaska or just sit out. Manuel is still lucky that for let's say no deal was done with other teams, he can still play and sign a 2 year with Alaska.

The message of Alaska was strong;
"If there's none (equal value), then he has to decide, come to talk to us again or just sit it out. The organization will move without him. It's no problem."
We'll wait for the final statement of Vic Manuel and his manager. I guess there's still a chance for him to play with Alaska if there's a possibility that he'll change his mind.
It's still his words and the decision has the final say.
Looks like there's a tension happening between the management and Manuel, I hope they will just let him go, or find some player to trade for him. Manuel is like James Harden, he is not anymore happy playing with his current team.
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January 26, 2021, 05:31:27 AM
Alaska Aces still aiming to get Vic Manuel on their side. Now the story goes on that Alaska and Manuel are summarized in this article.
(https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/30774737/aces-talks-manuel-reiterate-desire-re-sign-him)

Alaska is not aiming to get Vic. They just want a fair trade which is reasonable as Manuel already voiced his concern to the media. Since they still own the rights of Vic Manuel, it's reasonable to get a good deal out of this. If no teams will offer a good trade, Manuel has no choice but to either still play on Alaska or just sit out. Manuel is still lucky that for let's say no deal was done with other teams, he can still play and sign a 2 year with Alaska.

The message of Alaska was strong;
"If there's none (equal value), then he has to decide, come to talk to us again or just sit it out. The organization will move without him. It's no problem."
We'll wait for the final statement of Vic Manuel and his manager. I guess there's still a chance for him to play with Alaska if there's a possibility that he'll change his mind.
It's still his words and the decision has the final say.
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January 25, 2021, 06:44:07 PM
Alaska Aces still aiming to get Vic Manuel on their side. Now the story goes on that Alaska and Manuel are summarized in this article.
(https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/30774737/aces-talks-manuel-reiterate-desire-re-sign-him)

Alaska is not aiming to get Vic. They just want a fair trade which is reasonable as Manuel already voiced his concern to the media. Since they still own the rights of Vic Manuel, it's reasonable to get a good deal out of this. If no teams will offer a good trade, Manuel has no choice but to either still play on Alaska or just sit out. Manuel is still lucky that for let's say no deal was done with other teams, he can still play and sign a 2 year with Alaska.

The message of Alaska was strong;
"If there's none (equal value), then he has to decide, come to talk to us again or just sit it out. The organization will move without him. It's no problem."
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January 25, 2021, 06:11:39 PM
Alaska Aces still aiming to get Vic Manuel on their side. Now the story goes on that Alaska and Manuel are summarized in this article.
(https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/30774737/aces-talks-manuel-reiterate-desire-re-sign-him)
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January 25, 2021, 06:06:04 PM
Deduction of salary to other players, it does not happen, Romeo was acquired through trade.

Here's the story, https://www.rappler.com/sports/pba/terrence-romeo-traded-to-san-miguel

Under the table is obviously not for public announcement. What's on that article you have shared is the "formal" way.

Try to analyze the salary of Romeo from GB to SMB, salary cap per team, salaries of all SMB roster, and you can make a picture out of it. Anyway, I won't push further at this discussion as I don't have any source or link. It's just that, it's impossible for me that there's no under the table there. Cheesy

Same with my claim as I don't have any source just an assumptions on why he transfered from good team as TnT to SMB now,
It's hard to believe that hes just went there to win a title and an MVP finals for his career. Though incentives just like what had
been shared above is very convincing perks.

But  again, I'm still believing that there are things that needed not to be shared,
additional payment that a player like him can't resist to accept.
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January 25, 2021, 05:18:39 PM
Cyrus Baguio finally retires after impressive 17-year PBA career

Veterans are leaving, it will open an opportunity for the young ones, Baguio though I have not seen his prime in the PBA, but I heard was really really good during his prime.

He is giving time already to young ones before this retirement. He's one of the Yeng Guiao's fierce players during their Red Bull days.

Baguio is a high flyer. I was able to watch the Live Coverage of the PBA Slam Dunk Contest where he's one of the participants and become a Slam Dunk Champion. Unfortunately, no good quality video of it was uploaded to Youtube even just highlights. Search for it several months ago so I'm not sure if there's an available video now.
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