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Quote from: Vaculin on December 24, 2020, 07:42:49 AM

Quote from: harizen on December 24, 2020, 01:38:06 AM

Anyways, too early to discuss that possibility as the younger Paras didn't show any signs or even a small interest to join the biggest basketball league in the country. Andre Paras on the other hand, not that versatile compare to his brother but as soon as he progress, he will soon catch up with the PBA environment.

We already feel the influence of the media, when Paras is in the news, everyone reacts, so we are hyping them once again and for sure that would help them to be drafted in the PBA. Seeing brothers playing in one team, I think that's not good to witness, I'd rathe see them playing in different teams.

Imagine the publicity can bring with Andre for sure he's a good addition in terms of marketing in PBA if the older Paras will be added in the league. But we can't deny that he's good and there's a lot of room for development so hopefully he will get a best team which can help him develop more, imagine the last 23 rebounds he contribute for his last team in D-league? for sure if he will play something like that in PBA he will get a good future in the league.

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Quote from: harizen on December 24, 2020, 01:38:06 AM

Anyways, too early to discuss that possibility as the younger Paras didn't show any signs or even a small interest to join the biggest basketball league in the country. Andre Paras on the other hand, not that versatile compare to his brother but as soon as he progress, he will soon catch up with the PBA environment.

We already feel the influence of the media, when Paras is in the news, everyone reacts, so we are hyping them once again and for sure that would help them to be drafted in the PBA. Seeing brothers playing in one team, I think that's not good to witness, I'd rathe see them playing in different teams.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 23, 2020, 05:57:00 PM

Even Coach Yeng believe that Dwight Ramos is PBA ready and i seldom noticed this coach praising a player, that's why i think that this kid is one of the future face in Philippine basketball as he can compete with other players on the backcourt internationally.

Never heard of Dwight but sort of familiar if I've heard his surname in some leagues before. But if it's coming from Coach Yeng and telling some good points about this kid, he might do something to pull this kid in PBA. At least by this time, we have some other youngsters that could potentially be the new breed of PBA professionals soon.

Quote from: harizen on December 24, 2020, 01:38:06 AM

I'm not also expecting for this Paras brother to change a lower seed team if they will teamed-up "on their first season."

As also stated above, maybe 3 to 4 season as surely progress will be made. But for that to happen, that lower team should not just rely on Paras brothers but rather improve their lineup. Remember that Kobe Paras is having a problem in a Center or Power Forward position where he was assigned by the Gilas Head Coach as his expertise is in Small Forward Position. Looking at those lower seed teams in the PBA, the Paras brothers might probably end up in PF position due to their height.

Anyways, too early to discuss that possibility as the younger Paras didn't show any signs or even a small interest to join the biggest basketball league in the country. Andre Paras on the other hand, not that versatile compare to his brother but as soon as he progress, he will soon catch up with the PBA environment.

There will be a long adjustment for a team that will take the brothers. They have the name but we're unsure if they'll be performing well together. I only remember the Yap brothers to perform well in one team.

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I'm not also expecting for this Paras brother to change a lower seed team if they will teamed-up "on their first season."

As also stated above, maybe 3 to 4 season as surely progress will be made. But for that to happen, that lower team should not just rely on Paras brothers but rather improve their lineup. Remember that Kobe Paras is having a problem in a Center or Power Forward position where he was assigned by the Gilas Head Coach as his expertise is in Small Forward Position. Looking at those lower seed teams in the PBA, the Paras brothers might probably end up in PF position due to their height.

Anyways, too early to discuss that possibility as the younger Paras didn't show any signs or even a small interest to join the biggest basketball league in the country. Andre Paras on the other hand, not that versatile compare to his brother but as soon as he progress, he will soon catch up with the PBA environment.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 23, 2020, 09:19:01 PM

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 22, 2020, 05:22:03 PM

Do you really think Kobe+Andre can lift a lower-tier team in the PBA? Kobe Paras will be eaten alive in the PBA.

Paras brothers can't lift up a team by themselves. Even you put them on Terrafirma DYIP with CJ Perez, they will surely can't even pass in the quarterfinals.

We can't put a period on that statement dude unless proven. First of all, I will disregard Andre here because I really doubt his basketball ability, we all knew that he is more of an actor than a player (sorry my bad).

Okay, if Kobe teamed up with Perez I think it could work as long as they will not share in the same position because an imbalance might happen. But that's the problem actually Grin

! They both play on the Small Forward position so what now? Hmm, for me the best thing they can do is to make an adjustment on Kobe's part since he is the taller one. I'm not saying that they can't be both aggressive, they can but much better if Perez will stand as a leader.

Before, that's my thinking. But after watching Kobe's performance since then, even after he trained for "several years" in the US to pursue his NBA career or professional career at any foreign league, the way he played, again, he will look like a normal player coming from a college draft when he enters the PBA.

He didn't even shine or become dominant in his UAAP days against "college players".

Anyway, my statement is because someone says that when Kobe+Andre joins a certain team, a lower-tier team in the PBA, the percentage of reaching the Finals do have a high chance which is highly I disagree. Too much hype just because they are Paras or because others just rely on the highlights. Maybe I will agree after 3-4 seasons on their PBA career.

Probably just hype, lower seed team has no chance to be in the Finals, unless they are own by a big company like the Cojuangco ang Pangilinan. Let's be honest here, PBA is being manipulated by the big businessman, they want their teams to be in the top, have you guys notice that teams enter in the Finals or even in the playoffs are teams acquired by these two.

I think it's time for the PBA to change the league, only one team for an owner would make the league more exciting and transparent.

Let other competitors enter in the league.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on December 23, 2020, 07:12:36 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on December 22, 2020, 05:22:03 PM

Do you really think Kobe+Andre can lift a lower-tier team in the PBA? Kobe Paras will be eaten alive in the PBA.

Paras brothers can't lift up a team by themselves. Even you put them on Terrafirma DYIP with CJ Perez, they will surely can't even pass in the quarterfinals.

We can't put a period on that statement dude unless proven. First of all, I will disregard Andre here because I really doubt his basketball ability, we all knew that he is more of an actor than a player (sorry my bad).

Okay, if Kobe teamed up with Perez I think it could work as long as they will not share in the same position because an imbalance might happen. But that's the problem actually Grin

! They both play on the Small Forward position so what now? Hmm, for me the best thing they can do is to make an adjustment on Kobe's part since he is the taller one. I'm not saying that they can't be both aggressive, they can but much better if Perez will stand as a leader.

Before, that's my thinking. But after watching Kobe's performance since then, even after he trained for "several years" in the US to pursue his NBA career or professional career at any foreign league, the way he played, again, he will look like a normal player coming from a college draft when he enters the PBA.

He didn't even shine or become dominant in his UAAP days against "college players".

Anyway, my statement is because someone says that when Kobe+Andre joins a certain team, a lower-tier team in the PBA, the percentage of reaching the Finals do have a high chance which is highly I disagree. Too much hype just because they are Paras or because others just rely on the highlights. Maybe I will agree after 3-4 seasons on their PBA career.

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Your thought on this guys?

honestly I don't know about this kind but I'm watching in one of his highlights now.

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he seems playing like a legit PBA player, I love to see this guy in the NBA, he has the height so I hope he can fit in the PBA.
At 6'5", that height would really dominate an opponent if he has the skills.

My first time to hear his name since I'm not actively following outside the PBA league.

There's no buzz around him as he is not coming from a showbiz family Grin

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I don't think that this kid is NBA bound as there are a lot of competition on his size and height in the NBA but in the PBA he is a rare breed.

Even Coach Yeng believe that Dwight Ramos is PBA ready and i seldom noticed this coach praising a player, that's why i think that this kid is one of the future face in Philippine basketball as he can compete with other players on the backcourt internationally.

Coming from Yeng, this kid must be special.

I just hope he will not fall in any SMB teams, if only SMB and the Pangilinan Group will dominate, I would rather see him playing with the Magnolia Hotshots.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 23, 2020, 05:42:54 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 23, 2020, 05:36:03 PM

Your thought on this guys?

honestly I don't know about this kind but I'm watching in one of his highlights now.

100% from the Field! Dwight Ramos (Philippines) - Player of the Game | FIBA Asia Cup 2021 Qualifiers

he seems playing like a legit PBA player, I love to see this guy in the NBA, he has the height so I hope he can fit in the PBA.
At 6'5", that height would really dominate an opponent if he has the skills.

My first time to hear his name since I'm not actively following outside the PBA league.

There's no buzz around him as he is not coming from a showbiz family Grin

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I don't think that this kid is NBA bound as there are a lot of competition on his size and height in the NBA but in the PBA he is a rare breed.

Even Coach Yeng believe that Dwight Ramos is PBA ready and i seldom noticed this coach praising a player, that's why i think that this kid is one of the future face in Philippine basketball as he can compete with other players on the backcourt internationally.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 23, 2020, 05:36:03 PM

Your thought on this guys?

honestly I don't know about this kind but I'm watching in one of his highlights now.

100% from the Field! Dwight Ramos (Philippines) - Player of the Game | FIBA Asia Cup 2021 Qualifiers

he seems playing like a legit PBA player, I love to see this guy in the NBA, he has the height so I hope he can fit in the PBA.
At 6'5", that height would really dominate an opponent if he has the skills.

My first time to hear his name since I'm not actively following outside the PBA league.

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Let me float the name Dwight Ramos in this thread as i think personally that he will soon become one of the face of the PBA. Though he did not file his draft application as of now but many PBA teams are interested in this kid. Standing at 6 foot 5, he is a 1 and 2 guard combo that we have not seen for a long time in the PBA.

Your thought on this guys?

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 23, 2020, 06:32:43 AM

Quote from: blockman on December 23, 2020, 02:47:56 AM

I feel regret that Kobe didn't pursue his career in the NBA. Sad

He tried but failed.

Japeth Aguilar and Ray Parks tried their luck in the NBA but they both failed, during that time, there are also a hype for them to be successful but it failed.
The competition is just really high in the US, so it's hard for a Filipino to enter in the NBA, but we don't loss hope, we will always support our very own.

Yes, and Kai is the one that we're waiting for it. A very big chance and hoping that he'd be the one that will be successful getting in this generation. He's height is ideal and very young blood which is in favor of those teams that are looking for the young bloods to join their team and be trained.
He just needed to be trained more and get more experience and joining Gilas will give him that exposure and experience. It's a very quick time, just a few years ago he's in the talks of possibly going to NBA and bigger leagues and he's about to be there soon.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on December 23, 2020, 07:12:36 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on December 22, 2020, 05:22:03 PM

Do you really think Kobe+Andre can lift a lower-tier team in the PBA? Kobe Paras will be eaten alive in the PBA.

Paras brothers can't lift up a team by themselves. Even you put them on Terrafirma DYIP with CJ Perez, they will surely can't even pass in the quarterfinals.

We can't put a period on that statement dude unless proven. First of all, I will disregard Andre here because I really doubt his basketball ability, we all knew that he is more of an actor than a player (sorry my bad).

Okay, if Kobe teamed up with Perez I think it could work as long as they will not share in the same position because an imbalance might happen. But that's the problem actually Grin

! They both play on the Small Forward position so what now? Hmm, for me the best thing they can do is to make an adjustment on Kobe's part since he is the taller one. I'm not saying that they can't be both aggressive, they can but much better if Perez will stand as a leader.

Before we praise Kobe, now we doubted him. Come on guys, let's give him a chance, we haven't seen him played in the PBA yet, let's believe that he will improve on whatever team he will play. Honestly, I have some players that I doubt before but now they have really improve a lot, so I don't want to underestimate a player.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 22, 2020, 05:22:03 PM

Do you really think Kobe+Andre can lift a lower-tier team in the PBA? Kobe Paras will be eaten alive in the PBA.

Paras brothers can't lift up a team by themselves. Even you put them on Terrafirma DYIP with CJ Perez, they will surely can't even pass in the quarterfinals.

We can't put a period on that statement dude unless proven. First of all, I will disregard Andre here because I really doubt his basketball ability, we all knew that he is more of an actor than a player (sorry my bad).

Okay, if Kobe teamed up with Perez I think it could work as long as they will not share in the same position because an imbalance might happen. But that's the problem actually Grin

! They both play on the Small Forward position so what now? Hmm, for me the best thing they can do is to make an adjustment on Kobe's part since he is the taller one. I'm not saying that they can't be both aggressive, they can but much better if Perez will stand as a leader.

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Quote from: blockman on December 23, 2020, 02:47:56 AM

I feel regret that Kobe didn't pursue his career in the NBA. Sad

He tried but failed.

Japeth Aguilar and Ray Parks tried their luck in the NBA but they both failed, during that time, there are also a hype for them to be successful but it failed.
The competition is just really high in the US, so it's hard for a Filipino to enter in the NBA, but we don't loss hope, we will always support our very own.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 20, 2020, 06:05:05 PM

With a lot of articles online especially those that are written by our fellowmen, you can certainly read information about how good he is, so I'm not surprise with that as we Filipinos love to support our "kababayan" and imagine what kind of pride it will bring to our country as there's no pure Filipino that has played in the NBA yet.

I think that I've read wasn't made by our fellowmen. He is our hope this time to get into NBA, he's at the perfect age and timing.

Quote from: goinmerry on December 22, 2020, 05:22:03 PM

Do you really think Kobe+Andre can lift a lower-tier team in the PBA? Kobe Paras will be eaten alive in the PBA.

Paras brothers can't lift up a team by themselves. Even you put them on Terrafirma DYIP with CJ Perez, they will surely can't even pass in the quarterfinals.

I've read the news about Andre, there will be a sure that will take him. He has a history due to his father and also has the height. But I agree to you that they're not yet as good as the veterans that the PBA teams have. I feel regret that Kobe didn't pursue his career in the NBA. Sad

I thought that he's near to it but things have change and situation has made it not possible anymore.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 22, 2020, 05:22:03 PM

Quote from: Lorence.xD on December 22, 2020, 02:47:35 AM

..and I do not think that he will go on and apply as a draft pick for PBA, he is happy as is in his show business life.

You are outdated mate. The reason Andre Paras was in the discussion here because he applies for the PBA draft.

I didn't check when I was replying to these but then I got curious after my last post. It seems that show business at this time of the pandemic is not a profitable endeavor, or that he really wants to do other things. Anyway, I think that if in anyway, I think he will enter at least at the top 10 because of the name and the height.

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Quote from: yazher on December 21, 2020, 09:56:37 PM

And if they are together in the same team with their current skills, they are competitive teams that have a higher percentage to go to the finals. I hope that they will go to teams that have some fewer star players so that they can fully use their strength and improve their plays. They can manage to acquire some new traits like improving their leadership skills in they landed on the same team together.

Do you guys just only watch highlights of the Paras brothers? Or not aware of the PBA competition especially against SMC and MVP companies?

Do you really think Kobe+Andre can lift a lower-tier team in the PBA? Kobe Paras will be eaten alive in the PBA.

Paras brothers can't lift up a team by themselves. Even you put them on Terrafirma DYIP with CJ Perez, they will surely can't even pass in the quarterfinals.

Quote from: Lorence.xD on December 22, 2020, 02:47:35 AM

..and I do not think that he will go on and apply as a draft pick for PBA, he is happy as is in his show business life.

You are outdated mate. The reason Andre Paras was in the discussion here because he applies for the PBA draft.

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I doubt this because the level of talent that Andre Paras have is not that high and he might not land on the top ten in the draft pick and i also got a feeling that he might be drafted because he is a Paras but might not see action in the PBA as the PBA team that drafted him might not offer him a contract.

I think you are talking about the other Paras which is Kobe as he is the one on the Gilas squad at the moment.

Andre Paras is more on the show business side of his father, he is not as good as his brother and I do not think that he will go on and apply as a draft pick for PBA, he is happy as is in his show business life. Kobe on the other hand is a hope for the new generation of Basketball scene in the Philippines.

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Quote from: panganib999 on December 21, 2020, 08:56:45 PM

I think one of the most wanted see player in player is Andre Paras. He is likely to have a good career in PBA. I remembered while I watch how he plays and watch those mini highlights for him, I realize that Paras might be the one who the Philippines need in the Gilas in the future. For now, I think he needs to improve his offense nd defense and use of his height advantage. But Paras will definitely a global competetive just like Kai Sotto in NBA Draft Camp. Paras might be the son of legendary basketball player but I think he is on the other way around making a name for himself and just like others wanted to have a different career path from his father. I am looking forward to see him in the next games of PBA and as well as in Gilas in the future.

I doubt this because the level of talent that Andre Paras have is not that high and he might not land on the top ten in the draft pick and i also got a feeling that he might be drafted because he is a Paras but might not see action in the PBA as the PBA team that drafted him might not offer him a contract.

I think you are talking about the other Paras which is Kobe as he is the one on the Gilas squad at the moment.

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 21, 2020, 06:52:58 PM

True, if Andre Paras will successfully be signed by a team, and Kobe will soon enter in the PBA, I think we can compare them to the Ball Brothers in the NBA. Lavar Ball is the Benjie Paras.

And if they are together in the same team with their current skills, they are competitive teams that have a higher percentage to go to the finals. I hope that they will go to teams that have some fewer star players so that they can fully use their strength and improve their plays. They can manage to acquire some new traits like improving their leadership skills in they landed on the same team together.

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