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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 07, 2023, 12:56:53 AM

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Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

Yes, and it seems like Converge are enjoying their losing streak.

Those who bet on Converge hoping they'll win still has a chance to win back the losses or at least end the night with a win. As for the coming game, I have the Blackwater +11.5, the odds is 2.09, I took an extra 9%.. also hoping that Magnolia will slow down a bit, and give this game to Blackwater, or least let them cover.

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

The first three quarters do look good; Blackwater is still competing as they are only down by 5 points going into the 4th quarter. However, once they are in the 4th quarter, the offense of Blackwater disappeared as they were bothered by the pressure defense of Magnolia. This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

Not yet time for the Magnolia Hotshots to lose a game. Blackwater couldn't keep up the pace of the Hotshots in the final quarter as they only scored 19 points while Magnolia has 35 in the quarter alone. Once again, their import, Tyler Bey has a monstrous game, tallying 26 points while grabbing 22 rebounds. Though too early to discuss as of now but i think Tyler Bey is the frontrunner as the best import in this conference for sure with the way how he lead his team to victories. RHJ might be a contender but with his team struggling as they are undermanned at the moment, that might keep him at bay on the second place.

Too early, but yes, his impact is great, and we can't deny that he might be the frontrunner as early as now, with the way the whole squad makes their plays and how everyone is helping with executing the system. It's a team effort that really gives them a clean records, though still far to conclude, but I hope they will not choke their way when advancing to the next round.

Gin kings and SMB are also doing great, though there are some struggles from the Brgy, but they still manage to win games.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 07, 2023, 12:56:53 AM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 06, 2023, 05:15:07 AM

Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

Yes, and it seems like Converge are enjoying their losing streak.

Those who bet on Converge hoping they'll win still has a chance to win back the losses or at least end the night with a win. As for the coming game, I have the Blackwater +11.5, the odds is 2.09, I took an extra 9%.. also hoping that Magnolia will slow down a bit, and give this game to Blackwater, or least let them cover.

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

The first three quarters do look good; Blackwater is still competing as they are only down by 5 points going into the 4th quarter. However, once they are in the 4th quarter, the offense of Blackwater disappeared as they were bothered by the pressure defense of Magnolia. This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

Not yet time for the Magnolia Hotshots to lose a game. Blackwater couldn't keep up the pace of the Hotshots in the final quarter as they only scored 19 points while Magnolia has 35 in the quarter alone. Once again, their import, Tyler Bey has a monstrous game, tallying 26 points while grabbing 22 rebounds. Though too early to discuss as of now but i think Tyler Bey is the frontrunner as the best import in this conference for sure with the way how he lead his team to victories. RHJ might be a contender but with his team struggling as they are undermanned at the moment, that might keep him at bay on the second place.

That is an awesome performance for magnolia as they defend themselves for the current number 1 ranking in this season and yes they showed a great play but it's to early to say that they will be a champ cause one thing for sure in the quarter finals the true competition will come to them cause other team will build a good play for thier upcoming game so for now let's stay tuned and place our bet to the team we know that they can win. Anyways next game of magnolia is on Friday hope they still win.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 06, 2023, 09:12:39 AM

Quote from: Natalim on December 06, 2023, 06:21:37 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 06, 2023, 05:15:07 AM

Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

Yes, and it seems like Converge are enjoying their losing streak.

Those who bet on Converge hoping they'll win still has a chance to win back the losses or at least end the night with a win. As for the coming game, I have the Blackwater +11.5, the odds is 2.09, I took an extra 9%.. also hoping that Magnolia will slow down a bit, and give this game to Blackwater, or least let them cover.

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

The first three quarters do look good; Blackwater is still competing as they are only down by 5 points going into the 4th quarter. However, once they are in the 4th quarter, the offense of Blackwater disappeared as they were bothered by the pressure defense of Magnolia. This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

Not yet time for the Magnolia Hotshots to lose a game. Blackwater couldn't keep up the pace of the Hotshots in the final quarter as they only scored 19 points while Magnolia has 35 in the quarter alone. Once again, their import, Tyler Bey has a monstrous game, tallying 26 points while grabbing 22 rebounds. Though too early to discuss as of now but i think Tyler Bey is the frontrunner as the best import in this conference for sure with the way how he lead his team to victories. RHJ might be a contender but with his team struggling as they are undermanned at the moment, that might keep him at bay on the second place.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 06, 2023, 09:12:39 AM

This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

The same thing they did on NLEX, they beat them on the 2nd half, this sone is worst as it only takes one quarter for them to route the Blackwater. It seems like Blackwater doesn't have the right characted to become a championship team, but the Magnolia is strong enough with their confidence that they can beat a team even down in the prior quarters and just win the last quarter.

I can say that they are the team to beat because in terms of consistentcy, they have all of it.

Magnolia could ===>> SMB, TNT, GINENBRA

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Quote from: Natalim on December 06, 2023, 06:21:37 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 06, 2023, 05:15:07 AM

Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

Yes, and it seems like Converge are enjoying their losing streak.

Those who bet on Converge hoping they'll win still has a chance to win back the losses or at least end the night with a win. As for the coming game, I have the Blackwater +11.5, the odds is 2.09, I took an extra 9%.. also hoping that Magnolia will slow down a bit, and give this game to Blackwater, or least let them cover.

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

The first three quarters do look good; Blackwater is still competing as they are only down by 5 points going into the 4th quarter. However, once they are in the 4th quarter, the offense of Blackwater disappeared as they were bothered by the pressure defense of Magnolia. This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 06, 2023, 07:21:41 AM

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I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

I'm watching this; I like your confidence, mate. This looks like a losing bet already on paper, but we never know. Magnolia is currently on a win streak, and losing against a weaker team isn't expected. So let's see how they'll play out this game tonight. Hopefully, refs would favor Blackwater so those who are brave enough to take this kind of bet would be happy, like you.

Close in this early first half, not sure if Blackwater will sustain that energy or they will be left behind after this, Magnolia is really a team to beat in this season, though we already seen them like this and after that they will miss the finals, hopefully they will continue their dominance and they will manage to win another title, still too early for that I guess let's go back to this current live event, good luck to whoever that takes that big risk choosing Blackwater's ML.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 06, 2023, 06:21:37 AM

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

I'm watching this; I like your confidence, mate. This looks like a losing bet already on paper, but we never know. Magnolia is currently on a win streak, and losing against a weaker team isn't expected. So let's see how they'll play out this game tonight. Hopefully, refs would favor Blackwater so those who are brave enough to take this kind of bet would be happy, like you.

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Because PBA management doesn't want this two big companies to pull out in their league since if that gonna happen then for sure this will be the end of PBA. That's why the trade will always go in favor with their teams and any other opposing team like those independent one cannot do anything since they are more dominant than them.

I also got bored watching PBA at the moment especially when watching those independent teams playing since we don't feel any excitement with them anymore. And I'm sure to many people also got bored because they already know which team will go to finals, that's why we see a huge decline for their viewership especially on live games. If they don't change on how they manage the league for sure people will lose interest more with them.

It is what it is, I mean, PBA would not change soon because those who control the league have a deep pocket that they get whatever they want, and also money is the reason why this PBA still exists as they can afford to pay high caliber players on how much they want. I don't with the other but personally i'm not bored watching the PBA as i'm more interested on the betting side of it hehe.

Yeah can't expect anything with them since PBA is monopolized by these big businesses that's why its expected that even PBA head officials cannot do anything since the words given by big bosses is much stronger than anyone else. So I guess nothing will happen hear since other players also don't want to play on small market team since they know the team can't pay them on what they demand.

That's the reason if I want to bet I only watch those recap given by vloggers posting some good contents about what happen on particular games. I lose interest to watch them on regular season since its boring. Only watching them when playoffs time or even in finals.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 06, 2023, 12:41:26 AM

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It's time for betting today.

Not many exciting games but we have a good first game as Converge will try their luck again to break their 5 losing streak. They're up against the Northport which I think not really a big threat since this team is just an average team, so I would personally bet on Converge as I'm also trying my luck.

As for the betting odds, Converge is +2.5, and it's 211.5 for the total. My pick this game would be ML for Converge and going under on 211.5

Maybe I'll also bet on the next game if Converge would win.

For me that's a good bet kabayan and would do the same as Converge will do its best to at least win one before Christmas. BTW, they will be bringing in a new import replacing Vonanovich so this will be a 50-50 game as NorthPort has not yet fully scouted this import, don't know yet his strenghts and weaknesses.

Converge ML @2.06 vs NorthPort

It turns out it was a bad bet, kabayan. No regrets anyway; that's part of the game. You lose some, and you win some. Let's turn to the next page of the game, hehe. The bad team versus the good team is the next game. It's hard to choose, to be honest. I would easily go with the Magnolia spread here, as they are good at covering spreads. However, I guess I'm going with the total tonight, and it's under 193.5.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 06, 2023, 05:15:07 AM

Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

Yes, and it seems like Converge are enjoying their losing streak.

Those who bet on Converge hoping they'll win still has a chance to win back the losses or at least end the night with a win. As for the coming game, I have the Blackwater +11.5, the odds is 2.09, I took an extra 9%.. also hoping that Magnolia will slow down a bit, and give this game to Blackwater, or least let them cover.

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

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Quote from: arwin100 on December 06, 2023, 04:51:13 AM

Because PBA management doesn't want this two big companies to pull out in their league since if that gonna happen then for sure this will be the end of PBA. That's why the trade will always go in favor with their teams and any other opposing team like those independent one cannot do anything since they are more dominant than them.

I also got bored watching PBA at the moment especially when watching those independent teams playing since we don't feel any excitement with them anymore. And I'm sure to many people also got bored because they already know which team will go to finals, that's why we see a huge decline for their viewership especially on live games. If they don't change on how they manage the league for sure people will lose interest more with them.

It is what it is, I mean, PBA would not change soon because those who control the league have a deep pocket that they get whatever they want, and also money is the reason why this PBA still exists as they can afford to pay high caliber players on how much they want. I don't with the other but personally i'm not bored watching the PBA as i'm more interested on the betting side of it hehe.

Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

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Yup, it's like a new day in the league when someone touches the mighty coaches or commissioners that have power to degrade and deport you as an import. That is the reason why the local players don't want to mess them around when they are still in contract and they don't want to name names or call out. You see the other retired PBA players, they're all free to name names now as if they're able to escape from a cage that's stopping them to voice out their authentic opinions about coaches and the league itself.

That's PBA, it's full of politics, but you can tell that his league is slowly dying.

If you would notice on the recent games, their were only few auidence watching the game, so the question is, where are they gonna get the money to sustain the operation. The answer is, it's the big companies like SMB and TNT who are sponsoring this, and that's the rason why these team owners have much incfluence in the PBA. As to punishing players, it's the decision of the commissioner, maybe it' looks bias but they have the power so there's nothing we can do.

Well, it's not just the recent games but this has been happening since several years ago. The craze of fans is no longer there but if it's there, it's only with Ginebra or SMB games. That's how the fans are with the PBA these days because they do understand that it's no longer an exciting league and goodness that there are other leagues that have been rising from the bottom like MPBL, Pilipinas Super League and the other local leagues that are being followed due to the scattered former PBA players joining one and another. The PBA looks not worried at all as long as they've got these big franchises but we're seeing that the leagues like MPBL is gaining more popularity and gaining more audience each basketball game that they have. The oldest league in the Asia is no longer patronized by most of the basketball fans and I think due also to the livestreaming feature, it's better to just watch on TV or online rather than go and hassle with the traffic going to the venues.

As long as they still have the big franchise owners then they are still good to go, and with how we see things happening inside the league where control is broadly favoring these two big companies, though Pacquiao's own league is also rising but it's more on money matter, I like to point it out that fans still supporting the Brgy and other franchise but the numbers are no longer the same as how it was before.

Fans who still watching live can't sustain it but the money from big franchise is enough to continue the league without any problem.

That doesn't give any good turnouts for independent team since if the number of attendee still not good when they are playing for sure they can't get enough revenue and might lose a lot for this that's why if PBA really want to help other team or to make the league exist for more longer years they should eliminate those unfair trades also try to balance each roster of the team so that people might get an interest to watch them again. If to much monopoly happened on PBA and they can't get much revenue on each match for sure we can see the oldest league on Asia to fall down so at early as now they should do something and forget about being greedy for theirselves to win a championship.

PBA is not the same as before that's why many people doesn't like to watch it anymore.

And that's also the reason why PBA still surviving, giving all those favors to these two giant companies and allow them to proceed with unfair trades, I don't want to be an hater but it's the reality that we can't hide, Whatever SMC or MVP requests will always happen or there's always a way to give them the favor, it always been that way and look at them this league still moving forward even the numbers of viewers and fans are far from what they got before, money speak louder and actions from the governors are mostly on the direction where MVP and SMC wanted it to be.

Because PBA management doesn't want this two big companies to pull out in their league since if that gonna happen then for sure this will be the end of PBA. That's why the trade will always go in favor with their teams and any other opposing team like those independent one cannot do anything since they are more dominant than them.

I also got bored watching PBA at the moment especially when watching those independent teams playing since we don't feel any excitement with them anymore. And I'm sure to many people also got bored because they already know which team will go to finals, that's why we see a huge decline for their viewership especially on live games. If they don't change on how they manage the league for sure people will lose interest more with them.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 06, 2023, 12:07:04 AM

It's time for betting today.

Not many exciting games but we have a good first game as Converge will try their luck again to break their 5 losing streak. They're up against the Northport which I think not really a big threat since this team is just an average team, so I would personally bet on Converge as I'm also trying my luck.

As for the betting odds, Converge is +2.5, and it's 211.5 for the total. My pick this game would be ML for Converge and going under on 211.5

Maybe I'll also bet on the next game if Converge would win.

For me that's a good bet kabayan and would do the same as Converge will do its best to at least win one before Christmas. BTW, they will be bringing in a new import replacing Vonanovich so this will be a 50-50 game as NorthPort has not yet fully scouted this import, don't know yet his strenghts and weaknesses.

Converge ML @2.06 vs NorthPort

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It's time for betting today.

Not many exciting games but we have a good first game as Converge will try their luck again to break their 5 losing streak. They're up against the Northport which I think not really a big threat since this team is just an average team, so I would personally bet on Converge as I'm also trying my luck.

As for the betting odds, Converge is +2.5, and it's 211.5 for the total. My pick this game would be ML for Converge and going under on 211.5

Maybe I'll also bet on the next game if Converge would win.

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Quote from: ultrloa on December 05, 2023, 07:51:37 AM

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Yup, it's like a new day in the league when someone touches the mighty coaches or commissioners that have power to degrade and deport you as an import. That is the reason why the local players don't want to mess them around when they are still in contract and they don't want to name names or call out. You see the other retired PBA players, they're all free to name names now as if they're able to escape from a cage that's stopping them to voice out their authentic opinions about coaches and the league itself.

That's PBA, it's full of politics, but you can tell that his league is slowly dying.

If you would notice on the recent games, their were only few auidence watching the game, so the question is, where are they gonna get the money to sustain the operation. The answer is, it's the big companies like SMB and TNT who are sponsoring this, and that's the rason why these team owners have much incfluence in the PBA. As to punishing players, it's the decision of the commissioner, maybe it' looks bias but they have the power so there's nothing we can do.

Well, it's not just the recent games but this has been happening since several years ago. The craze of fans is no longer there but if it's there, it's only with Ginebra or SMB games. That's how the fans are with the PBA these days because they do understand that it's no longer an exciting league and goodness that there are other leagues that have been rising from the bottom like MPBL, Pilipinas Super League and the other local leagues that are being followed due to the scattered former PBA players joining one and another. The PBA looks not worried at all as long as they've got these big franchises but we're seeing that the leagues like MPBL is gaining more popularity and gaining more audience each basketball game that they have. The oldest league in the Asia is no longer patronized by most of the basketball fans and I think due also to the livestreaming feature, it's better to just watch on TV or online rather than go and hassle with the traffic going to the venues.

As long as they still have the big franchise owners then they are still good to go, and with how we see things happening inside the league where control is broadly favoring these two big companies, though Pacquiao's own league is also rising but it's more on money matter, I like to point it out that fans still supporting the Brgy and other franchise but the numbers are no longer the same as how it was before.

Fans who still watching live can't sustain it but the money from big franchise is enough to continue the league without any problem.

That doesn't give any good turnouts for independent team since if the number of attendee still not good when they are playing for sure they can't get enough revenue and might lose a lot for this that's why if PBA really want to help other team or to make the league exist for more longer years they should eliminate those unfair trades also try to balance each roster of the team so that people might get an interest to watch them again. If to much monopoly happened on PBA and they can't get much revenue on each match for sure we can see the oldest league on Asia to fall down so at early as now they should do something and forget about being greedy for theirselves to win a championship.

PBA is not the same as before that's why many people doesn't like to watch it anymore.

And that's also the reason why PBA still surviving, giving all those favors to these two giant companies and allow them to proceed with unfair trades, I don't want to be an hater but it's the reality that we can't hide, Whatever SMC or MVP requests will always happen or there's always a way to give them the favor, it always been that way and look at them this league still moving forward even the numbers of viewers and fans are far from what they got before, money speak louder and actions from the governors are mostly on the direction where MVP and SMC wanted it to be.

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Yup, it's like a new day in the league when someone touches the mighty coaches or commissioners that have power to degrade and deport you as an import. That is the reason why the local players don't want to mess them around when they are still in contract and they don't want to name names or call out. You see the other retired PBA players, they're all free to name names now as if they're able to escape from a cage that's stopping them to voice out their authentic opinions about coaches and the league itself.

That's PBA, it's full of politics, but you can tell that his league is slowly dying.

If you would notice on the recent games, their were only few auidence watching the game, so the question is, where are they gonna get the money to sustain the operation. The answer is, it's the big companies like SMB and TNT who are sponsoring this, and that's the rason why these team owners have much incfluence in the PBA. As to punishing players, it's the decision of the commissioner, maybe it' looks bias but they have the power so there's nothing we can do.

Well, it's not just the recent games but this has been happening since several years ago. The craze of fans is no longer there but if it's there, it's only with Ginebra or SMB games. That's how the fans are with the PBA these days because they do understand that it's no longer an exciting league and goodness that there are other leagues that have been rising from the bottom like MPBL, Pilipinas Super League and the other local leagues that are being followed due to the scattered former PBA players joining one and another. The PBA looks not worried at all as long as they've got these big franchises but we're seeing that the leagues like MPBL is gaining more popularity and gaining more audience each basketball game that they have. The oldest league in the Asia is no longer patronized by most of the basketball fans and I think due also to the livestreaming feature, it's better to just watch on TV or online rather than go and hassle with the traffic going to the venues.

As long as they still have the big franchise owners then they are still good to go, and with how we see things happening inside the league where control is broadly favoring these two big companies, though Pacquiao's own league is also rising but it's more on money matter, I like to point it out that fans still supporting the Brgy and other franchise but the numbers are no longer the same as how it was before.

Fans who still watching live can't sustain it but the money from big franchise is enough to continue the league without any problem.

That doesn't give any good turnouts for independent team since if the number of attendee still not good when they are playing for sure they can't get enough revenue and might lose a lot for this that's why if PBA really want to help other team or to make the league exist for more longer years they should eliminate those unfair trades also try to balance each roster of the team so that people might get an interest to watch them again. If to much monopoly happened on PBA and they can't get much revenue on each match for sure we can see the oldest league on Asia to fall down so at early as now they should do something and forget about being greedy for theirselves to win a championship.

PBA is not the same as before that's why many people doesn't like to watch it anymore.

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Quote from: blockman on December 05, 2023, 05:40:58 AM

Quote from: mirakal on December 04, 2023, 08:04:58 AM

Quote from: blockman on December 03, 2023, 04:06:20 PM

Yup, it's like a new day in the league when someone touches the mighty coaches or commissioners that have power to degrade and deport you as an import. That is the reason why the local players don't want to mess them around when they are still in contract and they don't want to name names or call out. You see the other retired PBA players, they're all free to name names now as if they're able to escape from a cage that's stopping them to voice out their authentic opinions about coaches and the league itself.

That's PBA, it's full of politics, but you can tell that his league is slowly dying.

If you would notice on the recent games, their were only few auidence watching the game, so the question is, where are they gonna get the money to sustain the operation. The answer is, it's the big companies like SMB and TNT who are sponsoring this, and that's the rason why these team owners have much incfluence in the PBA. As to punishing players, it's the decision of the commissioner, maybe it' looks bias but they have the power so there's nothing we can do.

Well, it's not just the recent games but this has been happening since several years ago. The craze of fans is no longer there but if it's there, it's only with Ginebra or SMB games. That's how the fans are with the PBA these days because they do understand that it's no longer an exciting league and goodness that there are other leagues that have been rising from the bottom like MPBL, Pilipinas Super League and the other local leagues that are being followed due to the scattered former PBA players joining one and another. The PBA looks not worried at all as long as they've got these big franchises but we're seeing that the leagues like MPBL is gaining more popularity and gaining more audience each basketball game that they have. The oldest league in the Asia is no longer patronized by most of the basketball fans and I think due also to the livestreaming feature, it's better to just watch on TV or online rather than go and hassle with the traffic going to the venues.

As long as they still have the big franchise owners then they are still good to go, and with how we see things happening inside the league where control is broadly favoring these two big companies, though Pacquiao's own league is also rising but it's more on money matter, I like to point it out that fans still supporting the Brgy and other franchise but the numbers are no longer the same as how it was before.

Fans who still watching live can't sustain it but the money from big franchise is enough to continue the league without any problem.

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Quote from: Questat on December 05, 2023, 06:17:01 AM

They aren't worried because behind this league are big companies, they're earning a lot of money but as to sustainability, that could be a problem in the long run, so it's still better if they'll make an improvement by eliminating farm terms, company is limited to owning one team only, and adding more teams to participate.

yeah, it looks like they are privatizing it that all they want to happen will happen, those who are holding a high position like a commissioner may only serve as a puppet of the real personalities that are running the business. PBA has been here for awhile, even before we got created in this world but they aren't going into a direction that a strong league is going.

MPBL will probably replace PBA in popularity in the future.

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Quote from: blockman on December 05, 2023, 05:40:58 AM

Well, it's not just the recent games but this has been happening since several years ago. The craze of fans is no longer there but if it's there, it's only with Ginebra or SMB games. That's how the fans are with the PBA these days because they do understand that it's no longer an exciting league and goodness that there are other leagues that have been rising from the bottom like MPBL, Pilipinas Super League and the other local leagues that are being followed due to the scattered former PBA players joining one and another.

They haven't made an improvement to the oldest league in the Philippines. By letting the big company took over indirectly, this looks like a private league and could easily be viewed that it can easily be rigged.

Quote from: blockman on December 05, 2023, 05:40:58 AM

The PBA looks not worried at all as long as they've got these big franchises but we're seeing that the leagues like MPBL is gaining more popularity and gaining more audience each basketball game that they have. The oldest league in the Asia is no longer patronized by most of the basketball fans and I think due also to the livestreaming feature, it's better to just watch on TV or online rather than go and hassle with the traffic going to the venues.

They aren't worried because behind this league are big companies, they're earning a lot of money but as to sustainability, that could be a problem in the long run, so it's still better if they'll make an improvement by eliminating farm terms, company is limited to owning one team only, and adding more teams to participate.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 04, 2023, 08:04:58 AM

Quote from: blockman on December 03, 2023, 04:06:20 PM

Yup, it's like a new day in the league when someone touches the mighty coaches or commissioners that have power to degrade and deport you as an import. That is the reason why the local players don't want to mess them around when they are still in contract and they don't want to name names or call out. You see the other retired PBA players, they're all free to name names now as if they're able to escape from a cage that's stopping them to voice out their authentic opinions about coaches and the league itself.

That's PBA, it's full of politics, but you can tell that his league is slowly dying.

If you would notice on the recent games, their were only few auidence watching the game, so the question is, where are they gonna get the money to sustain the operation. The answer is, it's the big companies like SMB and TNT who are sponsoring this, and that's the rason why these team owners have much incfluence in the PBA. As to punishing players, it's the decision of the commissioner, maybe it' looks bias but they have the power so there's nothing we can do.

Well, it's not just the recent games but this has been happening since several years ago. The craze of fans is no longer there but if it's there, it's only with Ginebra or SMB games. That's how the fans are with the PBA these days because they do understand that it's no longer an exciting league and goodness that there are other leagues that have been rising from the bottom like MPBL, Pilipinas Super League and the other local leagues that are being followed due to the scattered former PBA players joining one and another. The PBA looks not worried at all as long as they've got these big franchises but we're seeing that the leagues like MPBL is gaining more popularity and gaining more audience each basketball game that they have. The oldest league in the Asia is no longer patronized by most of the basketball fans and I think due also to the livestreaming feature, it's better to just watch on TV or online rather than go and hassle with the traffic going to the venues.

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