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Quote from: Fredomago on November 26, 2023, 06:09:53 AM

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Quote from: mirakal on November 26, 2023, 05:37:40 AM

Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

Checking the score almost at the end of the 1st half and Blackwater still leading by 9 points, it can be a good timing for Gin kings backer taking that handicap might give them some decent win if by chance they will rally back during the 2nd half and win this game, though we all know that PBA can also ends up with a dissapointing outcome, "Silatan" not sure if Gin kings fans will buy that possibilities.

Well good luck mga kabayan if ever you will place a bet while waiting for the 2nd half!

Ginebra managed to secure a win, but unfortunately, my bet was lost as they only won by 3 points. If the game had gone to overtime, there might have been a good chance, but the last sequence seemed like a bad play, with Ortiz throwing the ball early despite the difficulty of the shot. I believe the pregame spread didn't cover, and the live betting didn't fare well either. However, one of the members here posted a -2.5 spread, so anyone who took it is lucky, as it turned out to be a winning bet.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 26, 2023, 06:14:21 AM

Alternatively, for those seeking more action, considering Ginebra -6.5 in the 3rd quarter alone could be an interesting option.

Do you think this paid off, right?

Ginebra won the 3rd quarter with a score of 30-19, so the -6.5 spread bet was successful. Congratulations to the bettors who had the confidence to take it, despite it being a high spread.

Now, we are in the 4th quarter. Let's see if Ginebra can sustain their momentum. Covering the -2.5 shouldn't be difficult now, unless they get tired due to their significant run in the 3rd.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 26, 2023, 06:14:21 AM

Alternatively, for those seeking more action, considering Ginebra -6.5 in the 3rd quarter alone could be an interesting option.

The spread doesn't seem enticing to me. If Ginebra is to win this game, -2.5 is more likely to be covered than -6.5 within just one quarter. If we really believe they'll dominate in the 3rd, then -6.5 might be a reasonable choice, but personally, I find it to be a substantial risk. The third quarter is about to start, so it's advisable to place a bet now or risk missing the opportunity. Currently, the local players aren't contributing as usual, but let's observe how they perform in the second half.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 26, 2023, 06:09:53 AM

Quote from: Viscore on November 26, 2023, 05:55:34 AM

Quote from: mirakal on November 26, 2023, 05:37:40 AM

Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

Checking the score almost at the end of the 1st half and Blackwater still leading by 9 points, it can be a good timing for Gin kings backer taking that handicap might give them some decent win if by chance they will rally back during the 2nd half and win this game, though we all know that PBA can also ends up with a dissapointing outcome, "Silatan" not sure if Gin kings fans will buy that possibilities.

Well good luck mga kabayan if ever you will place a bet while waiting for the 2nd half!

Ginebra outscored Blackwater by 8 points in the 2nd quarter, reducing Blackwater's lead to only 9 points. With two quarters remaining, if we believe in Ginebra's potential to win, the current spread of -2.5 in live betting seems quite tempting. Alternatively, for those seeking more action, considering Ginebra -6.5 in the 3rd quarter alone could be an interesting option.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 26, 2023, 05:55:34 AM

Quote from: mirakal on November 26, 2023, 05:37:40 AM

Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

Checking the score almost at the end of the 1st half and Blackwater still leading by 9 points, it can be a good timing for Gin kings backer taking that handicap might give them some decent win if by chance they will rally back during the 2nd half and win this game, though we all know that PBA can also ends up with a dissapointing outcome, "Silatan" not sure if Gin kings fans will buy that possibilities.

Well good luck mga kabayan if ever you will place a bet while waiting for the 2nd half!

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Quote from: mirakal on November 26, 2023, 05:37:40 AM

Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

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Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 24, 2023, 06:59:10 AM

Game will start in a minute, so good luck with your bets. Me, I think I'm gonna wait for the live betting as I felt like Ginebra is not gonna have a strong start, the first half will be given to the desperate team and Ginebra will take over the 2nd half.

It turns out you are correct, but not until the end of the first half. At one point, Rain or Shine enjoyed a 12-point lead, but Ginebra made a strong run to take the lead back. The score at the end of the first half is 44-49, with Ginebra holding a 5-point lead. Currently, Ginebra is already -9.5, and the spread hasn't changed much even though they are leading now.

We can already see Ginebra showcasing their strength, which is their ability to come back whenever they are behind. This is something that Rain or Shine doesn't have, and they are at risk of losing now because they were not able to protect their lead against a team that excels in the second half.

Ginebra win the game but handicap for those gamblers who pick -9.5 during the live event did not win their bet, RoS did try to stay close
and did try rallying back but Ginebra managed to keep that distance and win this game, and as for my opinion, RoS don't have that reliable player/s to help even how hard they are trying its still a big advantage for Ginebra having players who can really dependable and can manage to takeover or help to takeover the game.

The Gin Kings manage to win by 5 points only, so unfortunately, the Ginebra spread backers didn't cash in on the win.

ROS is still on a losing streak, but if you stick with them, you might start racking up wins, considering their efforts to turn things around. Bookies could keep labeling them as underdogs, creating ample opportunities for us bettors. Personally, I'm a bit disappointed with Ginebra's performance. I didn't witness the consistency I was anticipating, even though their import has been meeting expectations. I feel like his overall impact falls short compared to Brownlee's.

Almost shaken those who backed up the gin kings ML, hahah but not for them I guess quite close, if I remember it right they've got the chance to tie the game but that last 3 point attempt did not went through which might bring the game to OT, not sure but I think it's the rotation that is not giving them the right blend, though just my personal observation and I'm sure coach Tim will adjust and will keep on adjusting to make sure that they will work it out and start making good plays.

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Quote from: Distinctin on November 25, 2023, 03:38:23 AM

Please take another look at the schedule; you might have overlooked it.

On Nov. 25, we have only one game today, which is Converge vs. SMB, and we also have one game tomorrow featuring TNT and Bolts.

The one and only game today will start at 6:15 PM, so get yourself ready and place your bet, as there will be no more games to watch for today afterward. I checked the betting lines; SMB is -7.5 against a winless Converge, so I think we will see a similar scenario as the game yesterday between ROS and Ginebra, with the latter won the game but failed covering the spread. I'm also betting on my prediction that this game will go over 205.5, as SMB is just too strong in terms of offense. If they dictate the tempo of the game, the chance of it ending over is significant.

Watched the game live and with the looks of it, that -7.5 is very coverable since the Beermen is now leading by 13 points at the end of the first half. Interesting to note that Converge's import has not scored yet on this ballgame with him missing his free throws also so this might be not a good sign for those who bet for Converge.

Odds at the moment is SMB -15.5 @2.08 which i think not a good bet since the Beermen will relax in the fourth in they are still leading by more than ten so i would rather go to Converge +15.5 @1.66.

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With seven minutes going into the fourth quarter, Converge have managed to trim the lead by just 3 points, the good thing is that i have bet for them with that high spread of 16.5.

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 24, 2023, 11:22:00 PM

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 10:59:52 PM

ROS is still on a losing streak, but if you stick with them, you might start racking up wins, considering their efforts to turn things around. Bookies could keep labeling them as underdogs, creating ample opportunities for us bettors. Personally, I'm a bit disappointed with Ginebra's performance. I didn't witness the consistency I was anticipating, even though their import has been meeting expectations. I feel like his overall impact falls short compared to Brownlee's.

Good suggestion, though, but only if they are up against a strong team. Sure bettors will be betting on one side only, at least most of them, I believe.

Anyway, we have two games today that I think would be worth watching, especially the first game between TNT and Bolts. I don't understand why they are in the first game; I mean, they should be in the last, since the last game, as per schedule, is SMB vs Converge. I don't find it an entertaining game, unless this Converge team plays like ROS, who are desperate to win, making it a close game. By the way, Converge is also winless as of this writing with 0-3, if I recall correctly.

Please take another look at the schedule; you might have overlooked it.

On Nov. 25, we have only one game today, which is Converge vs. SMB, and we also have one game tomorrow featuring TNT and Bolts.

The one and only game today will start at 6:15 PM, so get yourself ready and place your bet, as there will be no more games to watch for today afterward. I checked the betting lines; SMB is -7.5 against a winless Converge, so I think we will see a similar scenario as the game yesterday between ROS and Ginebra, with the latter won the game but failed covering the spread. I'm also betting on my prediction that this game will go over 205.5, as SMB is just too strong in terms of offense. If they dictate the tempo of the game, the chance of it ending over is significant.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 10:59:52 PM

ROS is still on a losing streak, but if you stick with them, you might start racking up wins, considering their efforts to turn things around. Bookies could keep labeling them as underdogs, creating ample opportunities for us bettors. Personally, I'm a bit disappointed with Ginebra's performance. I didn't witness the consistency I was anticipating, even though their import has been meeting expectations. I feel like his overall impact falls short compared to Brownlee's.

Good suggestion, though, but only if they are up against a strong team. Sure bettors will be betting on one side only, at least most of them, I believe.

Anyway, we have two games today that I think would be worth watching, especially the first game between TNT and Bolts. I don't understand why they are in the first game; I mean, they should be in the last, since the last game, as per schedule, is SMB vs Converge. I don't find it an entertaining game, unless this Converge team plays like ROS, who are desperate to win, making it a close game. By the way, Converge is also winless as of this writing with 0-3, if I recall correctly.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 24, 2023, 06:55:41 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on November 24, 2023, 08:05:18 AM

Quote from: Botnake on November 24, 2023, 06:59:10 AM

Game will start in a minute, so good luck with your bets. Me, I think I'm gonna wait for the live betting as I felt like Ginebra is not gonna have a strong start, the first half will be given to the desperate team and Ginebra will take over the 2nd half.

It turns out you are correct, but not until the end of the first half. At one point, Rain or Shine enjoyed a 12-point lead, but Ginebra made a strong run to take the lead back. The score at the end of the first half is 44-49, with Ginebra holding a 5-point lead. Currently, Ginebra is already -9.5, and the spread hasn't changed much even though they are leading now.

We can already see Ginebra showcasing their strength, which is their ability to come back whenever they are behind. This is something that Rain or Shine doesn't have, and they are at risk of losing now because they were not able to protect their lead against a team that excels in the second half.

Ginebra win the game but handicap for those gamblers who pick -9.5 during the live event did not win their bet, RoS did try to stay close
and did try rallying back but Ginebra managed to keep that distance and win this game, and as for my opinion, RoS don't have that reliable player/s to help even how hard they are trying its still a big advantage for Ginebra having players who can really dependable and can manage to takeover or help to takeover the game.

The Gin Kings manage to win by 5 points only, so unfortunately, the Ginebra spread backers didn't cash in on the win.

ROS is still on a losing streak, but if you stick with them, you might start racking up wins, considering their efforts to turn things around. Bookies could keep labeling them as underdogs, creating ample opportunities for us bettors. Personally, I'm a bit disappointed with Ginebra's performance. I didn't witness the consistency I was anticipating, even though their import has been meeting expectations. I feel like his overall impact falls short compared to Brownlee's.

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Quote from: Distinctin on November 24, 2023, 08:05:18 AM

Quote from: Botnake on November 24, 2023, 06:59:10 AM

Game will start in a minute, so good luck with your bets. Me, I think I'm gonna wait for the live betting as I felt like Ginebra is not gonna have a strong start, the first half will be given to the desperate team and Ginebra will take over the 2nd half.

It turns out you are correct, but not until the end of the first half. At one point, Rain or Shine enjoyed a 12-point lead, but Ginebra made a strong run to take the lead back. The score at the end of the first half is 44-49, with Ginebra holding a 5-point lead. Currently, Ginebra is already -9.5, and the spread hasn't changed much even though they are leading now.

We can already see Ginebra showcasing their strength, which is their ability to come back whenever they are behind. This is something that Rain or Shine doesn't have, and they are at risk of losing now because they were not able to protect their lead against a team that excels in the second half.

Ginebra win the game but handicap for those gamblers who pick -9.5 during the live event did not win their bet, RoS did try to stay close
and did try rallying back but Ginebra managed to keep that distance and win this game, and as for my opinion, RoS don't have that reliable player/s to help even how hard they are trying its still a big advantage for Ginebra having players who can really dependable and can manage to takeover or help to takeover the game.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 23, 2023, 10:47:21 PM

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GINEBRA BISHOP GAGAWIN RESIDENT IMPORT | PBA BLOCKBUSTER TRADE MIKEY SMC BOLICK SA MVP

just saw this video on youtube, and I'm quite curious if Bolick and Williams would be able to play in the PBA. The uploader was talking about trade, I thought Williams contract with the TNT has already expired and Bolick is not anymore in contract with any teams in the PBA. So I'm a bit confuse about it?

Can somebody shed some light on this matter?

Bolick is still eligible to comeback anytime in the PBA because his contracts with his B-League team has been granted to be terminated by the team itself as per his request. That's the rumor why he asked for that because he's offered to comeback to PBA with a certain team, I don't know if the video says the actual team that does that or let's just keep it as a rumor after all. Usually, don't get too affected with these content creators and videos as most of them are bare opinions to say and sometimes many of them don't fact check. I'm not sure if Bolick is still binded with NorthPorth since he was able to go Japan for the B League. Because if he's still binded with NorthPort then he won't be allowed to go to Japan. So it means for now that he's a free agent. That's what I know he is right now and based on the situation. But him going to TNT sounds good and there's no need for any trade IMO as this content creator just making it look like that he's going to swap the left position by Mikey Williams.
Well, this article says that his contract from NorthPort already expired prior to his B League signing up. (https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/overseas-options-as-robert-bolick-northport-contract-expires-a2244-20230501)

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Quote from: Botnake on November 24, 2023, 06:59:10 AM

Game will start in a minute, so good luck with your bets. Me, I think I'm gonna wait for the live betting as I felt like Ginebra is not gonna have a strong start, the first half will be given to the desperate team and Ginebra will take over the 2nd half.

It turns out you are correct, but not until the end of the first half. At one point, Rain or Shine enjoyed a 12-point lead, but Ginebra made a strong run to take the lead back. The score at the end of the first half is 44-49, with Ginebra holding a 5-point lead. Currently, Ginebra is already -9.5, and the spread hasn't changed much even though they are leading now.

We can already see Ginebra showcasing their strength, which is their ability to come back whenever they are behind. This is something that Rain or Shine doesn't have, and they are at risk of losing now because they were not able to protect their lead against a team that excels in the second half.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 24, 2023, 05:49:34 AM

With Bishop and Cstand leading the Kings, i think the spread is manageable to cover. The trend since last Wednesday is that the favorite always win and cover the spread so breaking or going against the trend is a bad idea. ROS is performing bad and their import is due for replacement so his morale will not be so high in this game.

Ginebra -8.5 @1.86 vs ROS

My first game bet won so i would not break the trend Grin

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An impressive victory! I'm also delighted that the game turned out to be high-scoring; my bet was on over 195, and it easily hit in this match. Looking ahead to the final game, Barangay Ginebra is currently at -9. It seems people are heavily favoring Ginebra to win, so I intend to align with that sentiment. If we lose, so be it. One certainty is that Ginebra will approach this game seriously; they won't allow this opportunity to slip away. Hopefully, not only will they secure a win, but they'll also cover the spread.

Game will start in a minute, so good luck with your bets. Me, I think I'm gonna wait for the live betting as I felt like Ginebra is not gonna have a strong start, the first half will be given to the desperate team and Ginebra will take over the 2nd half.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 24, 2023, 05:49:34 AM

With Bishop and Cstand leading the Kings, i think the spread is manageable to cover. The trend since last Wednesday is that the favorite always win and cover the spread so breaking or going against the trend is a bad idea. ROS is performing bad and their import is due for replacement so his morale will not be so high in this game.

Ginebra -8.5 @1.86 vs ROS

My first game bet won so i would not break the trend Grin

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An impressive victory! I'm also delighted that the game turned out to be high-scoring; my bet was on over 195, and it easily hit in this match. Looking ahead to the final game, Barangay Ginebra is currently at -9. It seems people are heavily favoring Ginebra to win, so I intend to align with that sentiment. If we lose, so be it. One certainty is that Ginebra will approach this game seriously; they won't allow this opportunity to slip away. Hopefully, not only will they secure a win, but they'll also cover the spread.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 23, 2023, 10:05:17 PM

Quote from: Natalim on November 23, 2023, 06:46:28 AM

I'm rolling with Phoenix in the opening game and putting my money on Ginebra for the second one. I just can't picture ROS coming out on top against a fired-up Ginebra squad hungry for redemption after taking an L in their previous matchup.

Seems like everyone's banking on Ginebra for the win, expecting some redemption, and chances are, they'll clinch it with a big lead. No offense to ROS, but let's be real, they can't ride solely on their rep because, let's face it, they've been seriously struggling. Looking at the current standings, ROS is 0-3, so until they start bagging consistent wins, it's not smart to put our money on them.

I just checked the spread, it's -7.5. I reckon that's manageable.

https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/home/basketball

With Bishop and Cstand leading the Kings, i think the spread is manageable to cover. The trend since last Wednesday is that the favorite always win and cover the spread so breaking or going against the trend is a bad idea. ROS is performing bad and their import is due for replacement so his morale will not be so high in this game.

Ginebra -8.5 @1.86 vs ROS

My first game bet won so i would not break the trend Grin

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GINEBRA BISHOP GAGAWIN RESIDENT IMPORT | PBA BLOCKBUSTER TRADE MIKEY SMC BOLICK SA MVP

just saw this video on youtube, and I'm quite curious if Bolick and Williams would be able to play in the PBA. The uploader was talking about trade, I thought Williams contract with the TNT has already expired and Bolick is not anymore in contract with any teams in the PBA. So I'm a bit confuse about it?

Can somebody shed some light on this matter?

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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 23, 2023, 10:05:17 PM

Quote from: Natalim on November 23, 2023, 06:46:28 AM

I'm rolling with Phoenix in the opening game and putting my money on Ginebra for the second one. I just can't picture ROS coming out on top against a fired-up Ginebra squad hungry for redemption after taking an L in their previous matchup.

Seems like everyone's banking on Ginebra for the win, expecting some redemption, and chances are, they'll clinch it with a big lead. No offense to ROS, but let's be real, they can't ride solely on their rep because, let's face it, they've been seriously struggling. Looking at the current standings, ROS is 0-3, so until they start bagging consistent wins, it's not smart to put our money on them.

I just checked the spread, it's -7.5. I reckon that's manageable.

https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/home/basketball

No doubt, putting your money on Rain or Shine seems like a risky move given their current struggles. Ginebra tends to come back strong after a loss, and Coach Tim definitely won't be pleased with a defeat in a game they were supposed to win. Expect him to make a statement with this victory.

Thinking about some specials, like Ginebra winning by 26+ points, might be worth considering. However, the problem with the duel is they tend to put limits on PBA bets, unlike the NBA where you can go big even on high odds, like the specials I mentioned.

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