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I understand why the support of the fans goes to the import. We all know what kind of personality Pido has. He has been involve with lots of altercation in the past among his players, more popular was on Romeo, and i think that was the reason why Romeo got traded to TNT before he finally landed with SMB. Maybe even with Pringle also, as he also followed Romeo though he landed in different team but is owned by the same company.

NLEX has a quite good start this season, thanks to their import, so now it will be a tough job for them to replace an import that could equal the skills of Robinson or better than him. This actually a good news but probably people hve shifted their interest on the Kath-niel break up news! LOL>.. Grin

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Energetic import of NLEX has been fired, he was a good one but the team decided to let him go.

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NLEX lets go of Thomas Robinson just days after Pido spat

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NLEX appeared to have had enough of Thomas Robinson.

The Road Warriors decided to part ways with the explosive but eccentric import almost a week after he figured in a shouting match with Northport team manager Pido Jarencio.

What's funny is that this recent news draws more attention to the crowd and it seems like they are favorite the import of NLEX. I think they are already tired with all this drama, and there was also a comment about rigging of games, that accusation never gets old. Grin

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 29, 2023, 08:23:13 AM

So aside from the PBA season, there is also the East Asia Super League in which some PBA teams likely participate. I'm not sure how many, but I managed to bet on the Meralco Bolts today with a handicap of +10.5 (during live betting) against Jeremy Lin's team.

I was surprised that Meralco was able to control the first three quarters before struggling in the fourth. Usually, PBA teams are easily blown out in international competition, but here they were competitive, falling just short in the end.

What matters is that I won my +10.5 bet, as the Bolts only lost by 5 points.

Congratulations with your win, personally I'm not following the EASL but I'm happy that the SBP keep supporting our players to send abroad to participate in this league, just imagine the expenses they'll have to burn just to participate.

Anyhow, back to the PBA.. have you seen the ROS vs SMB, I thought ROS would be able to break there cold streak but they just fall short in the end. Lots of bad decision in the end turning the opportunity to the SMB, it was a close game, SMB won buy ROS covered (as usual).... Grin

GRATS kabayan here.

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So aside from the PBA season, there is also the East Asia Super League in which some PBA teams likely participate. I'm not sure how many, but I managed to bet on the Meralco Bolts today with a handicap of +10.5 (during live betting) against Jeremy Lin's team.

I was surprised that Meralco was able to control the first three quarters before struggling in the fourth. Usually, PBA teams are easily blown out in international competition, but here they were competitive, falling just short in the end.

What matters is that I won my +10.5 bet, as the Bolts only lost by 5 points.

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waiting for ROS vs SMB odds.....

As for this game, the odds are now out and SMB is the heavy favorite with -9, I think ROS will try to steal a win here, or if that would not happen, at least they'll play better making sure they'll cover the handicap.

You only need to hope that ROS will hold on in the 2nd half as they have already survive the first half.

They are tied at 53 a piece after the first half, and as per live betting odds, ROS is +7, seems like it has only change a bit despite what they've showed in the first half. Bookies still aren't convince though, maybe it's time to take a high risk, currently, ROS ML odds is 3.30. Who likes to take it?

Handicap might work for them if they can hold it like what they've done during the first half, but if you are a risky gambler, taking that ML will do as the reward is decent enough if ROS manages to snatch this game against the Beermen, PBA will always have that surprise who knows luck will permit and ROS will trigger that heavy upset.

Your money your call, depends on how you take your position but -7.5 is quite decent for SMB..

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 29, 2023, 06:18:37 AM

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waiting for ROS vs SMB odds.....

As for this game, the odds are now out and SMB is the heavy favorite with -9, I think ROS will try to steal a win here, or if that would not happen, at least they'll play better making sure they'll cover the handicap.

You only need to hope that ROS will hold on in the 2nd half as they have already survive the first half.

They are tied at 53 a piece after the first half, and as per live betting odds, ROS is +7, seems like it has only change a bit despite what they've showed in the first half. Bookies still aren't convince though, maybe it's time to take a high risk, currently, ROS ML odds is 3.30. Who likes to take it?

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Quote from: Natalim on November 27, 2023, 06:19:39 AM

Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

Nothing to argue about JB's capabilities as we all witness that not only with his PBA team but also with the Nationals, he play the game in an all-around position and the rest is history, let's give him that rest he deserves and just focus with how the team performs, though it seems that for those fans who also involves with gambling, it's really tough to predict but if you are good with ML just put your stake and wait for the outcome, chances of winning is better than covering or taking the handicap.. Just for my own take!

You need to have the courage to bet on ML as Ginebra is actually winning; they just have some problems with closing out games. I think the most consistent team currently is the Magnolia Hotshots. They are good at covering the spread, especially against a team that is at the bottom in terms of standing. As we all know, it was Magnolia that gave Ginebra their first and only loss in the season, but that was a controversial one due to an obvious non-call foul.

Not easy to forget kabayan that's a huge double digit lead from start up to the 3rd quarter then Gin kings lose that big lead and allow magolia to snatch the game from them, though it's controversial but the problem in keeping their big leads is something that not usual for them especially it's coach Tim who's mentoring them, not sure what's the problem but in my personal opinion it's more on the chemistry which still adjustable and still easy to make certain adjustments,.

Agree that they are still winning and that for sure is important, once they find that blends again it will be easier for them to continue that winning attitude.

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Quote from: Questat on November 29, 2023, 12:46:43 AM

Bettors come alive now as the odds are already available and I'm sharing my picks also in case you want to follow (or fade???) Grin

Phoenix 1.41 and over 216.5

Congrats on the Phoenix win but sorry for the over as it went under. You should have bet on the Phoenix spread as they have won the game by a good margin, more than enough to cover the spread.

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Quote from: Questat on November 29, 2023, 12:46:43 AM

waiting for ROS vs SMB odds.....

As for this game, the odds are now out and SMB is the heavy favorite with -9, I think ROS will try to steal a win here, or if that would not happen, at least they'll play better making sure they'll cover the handicap.

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Let's get ready for the games today.

First game will start at 4:00 PM
DYIP vs Phoenix,

2nd game at 8:00 PM
SMB vs Rain or Shine.

Bettors come alive now as the odds are already available and I'm sharing my picks also in case you want to follow (or fade???) Grin

Phoenix 1.41 and over 216.5

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waiting for ROS vs SMB odds.....

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Quote from: mirakal on November 27, 2023, 08:22:25 AM

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Quote from: Natalim on November 27, 2023, 06:19:39 AM

Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

Nothing to argue about JB's capabilities as we all witness that not only with his PBA team but also with the Nationals, he play the game in an all-around position and the rest is history, let's give him that rest he deserves and just focus with how the team performs, though it seems that for those fans who also involves with gambling, it's really tough to predict but if you are good with ML just put your stake and wait for the outcome, chances of winning is better than covering or taking the handicap.. Just for my own take!

You need to have the courage to bet on ML as Ginebra is actually winning; they just have some problems with closing out games. I think the most consistent team currently is the Magnolia Hotshots. They are good at covering the spread, especially against a team that is at the bottom in terms of standing. As we all know, it was Magnolia that gave Ginebra their first and only loss in the season, but that was a controversial one due to an obvious non-call foul.

Yes you are right that mate ginebra it has only 1 loss and that loss came from the current number and leading team which is magnolia. But anyways still the performance of the barangay teams is very good as of now and what we saw from thier play against blackwater which is in the early quarter blackwater is leading but in the second half until the fourth quarter ginebra give their best to win the match. Without Justin brownlee has a huge impact for the team but our local do thier Best Tobe the best in this session.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 27, 2023, 07:03:54 AM

Quote from: mirakal on November 27, 2023, 06:33:06 AM

Quote from: Natalim on November 27, 2023, 06:19:39 AM

Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

Nothing to argue about JB's capabilities as we all witness that not only with his PBA team but also with the Nationals, he play the game in an all-around position and the rest is history, let's give him that rest he deserves and just focus with how the team performs, though it seems that for those fans who also involves with gambling, it's really tough to predict but if you are good with ML just put your stake and wait for the outcome, chances of winning is better than covering or taking the handicap.. Just for my own take!

You need to have the courage to bet on ML as Ginebra is actually winning; they just have some problems with closing out games. I think the most consistent team currently is the Magnolia Hotshots. They are good at covering the spread, especially against a team that is at the bottom in terms of standing. As we all know, it was Magnolia that gave Ginebra their first and only loss in the season, but that was a controversial one due to an obvious non-call foul.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 27, 2023, 06:33:06 AM

Quote from: Natalim on November 27, 2023, 06:19:39 AM

Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

Nothing to argue about JB's capabilities as we all witness that not only with his PBA team but also with the Nationals, he play the game in an all-around position and the rest is history, let's give him that rest he deserves and just focus with how the team performs, though it seems that for those fans who also involves with gambling, it's really tough to predict but if you are good with ML just put your stake and wait for the outcome, chances of winning is better than covering or taking the handicap.. Just for my own take!

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Quote from: Natalim on November 27, 2023, 06:19:39 AM

Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

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I find it hard to trust the Gin Kings to cover the spread, given their consistent status as heavy favorites in most of their games. Their reputation and the immense fan support make them a popular choice for many bettors, leading to blind bets on Ginebra without proper consideration of statistics against the spread (ATS). This trend makes it quite easy for bookies to set up lines that trap the public into betting on them.

This is the second time that they did not cover the spread as they lost on their first game and with that i could say that in the next Ginebra game, we better bet on the opponent with that high spread as bookies normally give that to us.

Bishop is unpredictable/inconsistent on his game unlike Brownlee when he's got an off-night, he will facilitate so his teammates will do the job.

Ginebra's next game will be on December 3, a Sunday against DYIP, so we expect high spread again as DYIP is a lowly opponent and might be a trap for all of us bettors

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Cool early heads-up! Yeah, the spread's probably gonna be pretty wide since DYIP is kinda like the farm team for Blackwater. I'm thinking Ginebra might be at least -7.5, giving us some wiggle room to tweak our handicap for juicier odds, maybe +6.5 or +5.5. Checking out Bishop's stats, it's clear he's a solid import, but what's lacking is the impact on the team. Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 26, 2023, 11:50:03 PM

I find it hard to trust the Gin Kings to cover the spread, given their consistent status as heavy favorites in most of their games. Their reputation and the immense fan support make them a popular choice for many bettors, leading to blind bets on Ginebra without proper consideration of statistics against the spread (ATS). This trend makes it quite easy for bookies to set up lines that trap the public into betting on them.

This is the second time that they did not cover the spread as they lost on their first game and with that i could say that in the next Ginebra game, we better bet on the opponent with that high spread as bookies normally give that to us.

Bishop is unpredictable/inconsistent on his game unlike Brownlee when he's got an off-night, he will facilitate so his teammates will do the job.

Ginebra's next game will be on December 3, a Sunday against DYIP, so we expect high spread again as DYIP is a lowly opponent and might be a trap for all of us bettors

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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 26, 2023, 11:50:03 PM

I find it hard to trust the Gin Kings to cover the spread, given their consistent status as heavy favorites in most of their games. Their reputation and the immense fan support make them a popular choice for many bettors, leading to blind bets on Ginebra without proper consideration of statistics against the spread (ATS). This trend makes it quite easy for bookies to set up lines that trap the public into betting on them.

Depending on the betting spread, it's possible. For instance, if the spread is around -3.5 (the highest), I think they're likely to cover it. The problem arises at times when they face a weaker team; they don't play with the same intensity they exhibit against tougher opponents. I'm not sure about the reasons behind it, but it's just my observation. That's why when a popular team is favored to win with the spread, I believe most bettors will automatically side with the popular team and take its spread without hesitation.

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covering that -2.5 everything went smoothly and really gave fans an entertainment that bettors may enjoy while watching what's happening during the live game.

I'm sure many bettors are disappointed with the result, as they expected Ginebra to win by more than 3 points. The wise bettors who saw the opportunity might be content, but Ginebra barely covered the spread. It's hard to believe the way they are playing now; they are so unpredictable. I can't help but miss the old Ginebra Kings who could easily dominate their opponents. It seems like their current import doesn't bring the same energy that Brownlee brought to the team.

Same here, just can't imagine how Bossing managed to keep that distance knowing Gin kings dominance, though they outscored Bossing during the 3rd quarter I think those who bet early think that it will possibly cover the handicap but surprisingly see the Gin Kings stop that rally and just maintain whatever the lead to secure the win.

Personally, I also think that Bossing will let it go and will lose with huge margins, but we will see what just happened and nothing can be done about it but to move forward and try to check the next games to bet on.

I find it hard to trust the Gin Kings to cover the spread, given their consistent status as heavy favorites in most of their games. Their reputation and the immense fan support make them a popular choice for many bettors, leading to blind bets on Ginebra without proper consideration of statistics against the spread (ATS). This trend makes it quite easy for bookies to set up lines that trap the public into betting on them.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 26, 2023, 10:08:21 PM

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covering that -2.5 everything went smoothly and really gave fans an entertainment that bettors may enjoy while watching what's happening during the live game.

I'm sure many bettors are disappointed with the result, as they expected Ginebra to win by more than 3 points. The wise bettors who saw the opportunity might be content, but Ginebra barely covered the spread. It's hard to believe the way they are playing now; they are so unpredictable. I can't help but miss the old Ginebra Kings who could easily dominate their opponents. It seems like their current import doesn't bring the same energy that Brownlee brought to the team.

Same here, just can't imagine how Bossing managed to keep that distance knowing Gin kings dominance, though they outscored Bossing during the 3rd quarter I think those who bet early think that it will possibly cover the handicap but surprisingly see the Gin Kings stop that rally and just maintain whatever the lead to secure the win.

Personally, I also think that Bossing will let it go and will lose with huge margins, but we will see what just happened and nothing can be done about it but to move forward and try to check the next games to bet on.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 26, 2023, 08:24:31 AM

covering that -2.5 everything went smoothly and really gave fans an entertainment that bettors may enjoy while watching what's happening during the live game.

I'm sure many bettors are disappointed with the result, as they expected Ginebra to win by more than 3 points. The wise bettors who saw the opportunity might be content, but Ginebra barely covered the spread. It's hard to believe the way they are playing now; they are so unpredictable. I can't help but miss the old Ginebra Kings who could easily dominate their opponents. It seems like their current import doesn't bring the same energy that Brownlee brought to the team.

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Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

Checking the score almost at the end of the 1st half and Blackwater still leading by 9 points, it can be a good timing for Gin kings backer taking that handicap might give them some decent win if by chance they will rally back during the 2nd half and win this game, though we all know that PBA can also ends up with a dissapointing outcome, "Silatan" not sure if Gin kings fans will buy that possibilities.

Well good luck mga kabayan if ever you will place a bet while waiting for the 2nd half!

Ginebra outscored Blackwater by 8 points in the 2nd quarter, reducing Blackwater's lead to only 9 points. With two quarters remaining, if we believe in Ginebra's potential to win, the current spread of -2.5 in live betting seems quite tempting. Alternatively, for those seeking more action, considering Ginebra -6.5 in the 3rd quarter alone could be an interesting option.

If you take both bets for sure you've got a nice TGIS! Hahaha, the Gin Kings outscored Blackwater during the 3rd quarter and won the game, covering that -2.5 everything went smoothly and really gave fans an entertainment that bettors may enjoy while watching what's happening during the live game.

More on covering the handicap for live bettors, but those who pick things earlier a single point miss they lose their money.

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