Topic: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 64. (Read 35015 times)

I think this is a wrong analogy, actually the difference between playing club and international is not because they are unprofessional or because the club pays them a very large salary, nor as you say, age and end of career factors are irrelevant in this assessment.
the club pays them a consistent salary, the state is a nationalist feeling in every individual who wants to present the title.
so this is a matter of cohesiveness in a squad both within the club and at the country level, those who play at the club level have more time together so they have a strong relationship bond that they build and will affect match performance in 40 full weeks of playing football.

different from the country level, one of which is their limited time and lack of adaptation, the lack of training sessions, the lack of bonding between players, affects the performance of each international level match.

Mistakes are inevitable, even in courts where experts are involved and proceedings continue for years, they happen regularly. Another thing is that there are rules that confuse everyone, for example, in the case of offside, this is the condition that if the defender tried to play the ball and touched it but the ball still reached the attacker (who was in the offside position), then this touch cancels the offside position and the pass is legal. This is an absurd rule in my opinion.

I have noticed this as well, since the clubs are the ones paying them the players have the tendency to not do as well in their national teams, especially when we add they do not have too much time to train with other players and their styles may not match, however when it comes to the world cup things change, even if a team does not have any chance to be the winner of the world cup they still play with everything they have, as not only they are representing themselves but their nation and they want to leave the best impression they can to the fans of their country.

Argentina is in Group C, while Portugal is placed in Group H. If both the teams top their respective groups, then the chance is that they will meet each other only in the final match. And chances are that both these teams will top their respective group in the first phase. Unless Uruguay manages to upset Portugal, or Argentina goes down against Mexico (lol). Therefore chances are very low for a Argentina vs Portugal match. But in case if it happens, then it will be a treat for all the football fans around the world.

In this season's World Cup Argentina has a very high chance of winning, it can be seen from the presence of Lionel Messi and ngel Di María who are in Argentina to provide very full support to become champions, Ronaldo is currently in the Portuguese club as well as a game. his last for the world cup and I'm sure Messi and Ronaldo will compete to the maximum because both will retire after this, I can say this is a very interesting match.

I don't think this is the right reason because other national teams are also the same, especially with players who have important roles in clubs and have busy schedules.
I think this is just an excuse that feels contrived.

They weren't very lucky when they were in the world cup stage so they couldn't do much there.

In Barcelona he played for quite a long time, this squad has raised his name to the peak of his career, the combination and mix of football at Barcelona belongs to a category that is quite perfect for a Messi, so many titles have been won there together with the team, but speaking for the country, Messi there are still very few achievements given, so this year's world cup is the last chance to prove it

At the club they train and play so often, so that the combination of one player with another is more pronounced, compared to playing for the country, the professionalism of a player is not an excuse that a little time for the country is an excuse, but I think it will affect the final result of every game played in the country

Argentina have great players who are able to play collectively together with Messi, but because the mix in the squad is not achieved, so Messi seems to be fighting for himself for his country, this is due to the time together, not enough training and coupled with the coach's strategy which may not suit his style. every player

The quality of players is also influenced by the collective collective of players, where the games they play relate to each other, no doubt their heyday at Barcelona is also the main player at PSG at this time, but collectively it is not only the individual players who move to PSG , Barcelona's peak moment of glory also had the right time, so there were many reasons that influenced the club to experience its heyday

I have noticed this pattern. During the younger years, players tend to give more importance to their club side. But during the later years, they give more preference to national duty. Messi for his part have never been a part of the world cup winning team and that is why he want Argentina to lift the trophy this time. The same can be said about Ronaldo as well. And this is going to be the last chance for both these players. No matter how many competitions they win for their club side, none of that can match the world cup win.

Have different quality between La Liga and Ligue 1 why make Lionel Messi have under performance last one season, I think with Barcelona and playing on La Liga most competitive league because have Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid, Sevilla, Sociedad and many club with good level. Different atmosphere when Lionel Messi playing for PSG on Ligue 1, there are not any team with the same financial with PSG and almost all participant on Ligue 1 have lower budget for financial and active on window transfer, I think Ligue 1 not any competitive team for PSG because Marseille or AS Monaco under level from PSG.

Things could be more flexible in near future because currently we are in early stages of this technology and human combination they need some more soft rules and better policies for this all which create better results even this all is still not easy, but surely we will have better development which could be more helpful for all players and organizers because they all need middle way for this, and it's very important without this all we will be not good and have controversies as well which could be created mess up.

Now in next world cup as we are having some better use of technology and better rules about offside, hopefully this all could be brought to good direction which will be give new paths to soccer leagues as well.

I agree, the results are usually getting more and more legit thanks to VAR and if we add more tech to it then we are going to do even better. Of course, it doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with zero mistakes, there will be a few in the end but that doesn't mean that it is a lot lesser these days.

So all in all we are in a better situation than we used to be and that is why I am all for the newer and better technology, it would allow people to see games that is more fair. We all know bribery in football as well, refs used to get money from clubs and win games as well, this really happened like until 10 years ago or so, and now with new higher tech, it is much harder.

Also you should look into the fact that at Barca, he was in his prime and was the main man while in PSG, there are other superstars that have plays designed for them as well. Naymar and M'bappe can create their own goals or facilitate others with their brilliance and the team just doesnt rely as much as Barca would with Messi. He doesn't have to play his peak in a league that PSG were dominating anyways, with or without him. That being said, for Argentina, he is definitely required to perform or the team collapses in attack. Even though they have good attacking talent in Argentina but you need a player like Messi to unlock opponents defense.

He was even determined when it came to his country.
But the problem in this case will be a bit difficult because he still seems to be playing alone later considering sometimes with things like being focused like this apart from being unsure of his partner it also becomes quite bad because he seems to be fighting alone.

Their country never loses good players and has big names there but things like this will not be suitable if all eyes are only on Messi.

But unfortunately, even with the new football technologies, we still see mistakes that shouldn't happen.
This happens, not because of the technology, but because the rules of the games remain very subjective, lacking interpretation. And while the rules are not clearer, and less linked to the interpretation of the referees, we will see fairer football for everyone. Of course, in the midst of this, we still have to count on the sporting ideology, where we have leagues that respect the rules better than others.

In football, this appeared quite recently, and then with great resistance from UEFA/FIFA officials. It's just that at a certain point, the degenerative backwardness of football from tennis (where the touch of the ball to the court is recorded with millimeter accuracy) became so obvious that they had to go for it and now they (presumably) have one less lever to influence the outcome of the game.

Maybe you are right and have solid view, but I am also having too many examples from history when we have wrong decisions from referees/empires but still teams won and have trophies in their wallet even it's less than which lost due to wrong decision from referees but still exist.

Because, as we all know luck all time have good faith with brave man still this can happen because I personally watch too many events which were going with wrong decisions but still won by top class teams without any big trouble in many games like Soccer, Cricket and Field Hockey.

Right now, technology is going into positive way even going to take long time but could be good for game and sports persons.

There is definitely a difference when it comes to playing for club and country. Not that they are unprofessional but if they are at the end of their careers surely they are more willing to do more for their country. Moreover, this is likely to be the last World Cup for several star players, one of which is Messi.
Apart from all that, we will watch the game of the players who are now old. It's very sad.

It is true that when Messi was at Barcelona, he had better quality in his game, compared to what he has done at PSG. On the other hand, he in the Argentina national team has been doing much better than he was before. It's clear that he has been much more focused on playing for his country, and determined to do his best. So I believe that in this Worlds he will try to be in the best possible shape.

This also applies to the squad of any country that will compete later, no one can guarantee to win the world cup tournament in Qatar.

messi, he does not guarantee that he and his team will win the title this time. at least he still wants to try as much as possible to present the world cup title one last time in transition to retirement for his country.
regardless that they can achieve it or fail halfway.

I am optimistic that Messi and the Argentina squad will work very hard and give their best. even though messi is not playing in his best performance at psg but in the world of football everything can happen unexpectedly as well as other squads that will compete later in the world cup qatar all have hopes and opportunities.
only a few months away we will know later after the match is held.

To see the quality of a Messi in Barcelona, ​​because at PSG he hasn't done anything, that's why I took a few examples when he was still playing in Barcelona, ​​then the World Cup also had not yet taken place so it was more appropriate to compare Messi while still playing there, for the future Age and Club PSG no longer guarantee Messi can do much in the World Cup