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A good performance is not useful for Messi, we already have those things at least 4 past World Cups.

Either he wins or it will simply be one of the biggest failures in the history of football, all the possible configurations were always put together around 10 and it has not been possible.

It is perhaps the World Cup where they give Messi the least chance, it is the end of the world championships for Messi (maybe), then he knows that good football want... even a Brazilian would be happy if he wins the world cup.  Cool
Surely no one want good performance from Messi now all looking for very strong performance from this team and with this a good effort for stopping UEFA's strong hold on this event which is ruling for last twenty years and now allowing South American teams for having their cup even they lost this at their own home against Germany's historical win against Brazil.

Now with most chances Messi is going to play his last world cup for his country and fans around the world can he do magic which is done many times at Barcelona and give his country a trophy after many decades or can Brazilian's can fight hard for having another success under their belt or France, Germany or Spain again dominate this all.
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But I'm sure Lionel Messi will put on an epic final performance to help Argentina win the 2022 world cup, still wide open. Argentina's current strength is quite maximal, with a record for three years Argentina has never suffered a defeat in either a test or an official match. Thanks to this brilliance, Argentina won the 2021 Copa America title and the 2022 Finalissima. Messi and other Argentinian players still have a great chance to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar. Argentina could repeat Brazil's success as well as undermine European dominance if they can win the world football championship.
Argentina's opportunity to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar is still there and wide open for him, as well as for other countries that have entered the 2022 world cup in Qatar.
But it will not be possible if the Argentine players do not have good cooperation between players and also a good strategy from the coach himself and besides Lionel Messi's current performance is no longer as epic as it used to be.
Nah, that's what im thinking about. The contribution by mess in the previous world cup was a lot. The performance of messi in PSG was not so good as when he was still in barcelona. This may affect the performance of messi in the world cup as well. I doubt that if he will be giving his best performance again for the club. Let's see how it goes.
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Right now, we can't underestimate any team specially with their performance in League of Nations because this is not certificate that they don't perform in this event, and now they have no better chance in World Cup even they can do much better because most of the teams were trying few strategies and new systems for preparing into world cup and just because of this all they have failures in this event now they are having much better things for this mega event just injuries or players personal issues can bring them down like we have in Paul Pogba case now he is out with injury and have no chance for coming back into game for nearly 3 months which is big setback for France.

So, any injury like this can happen to any player, or he can face long rest, which is going to have big trouble for his team in this world cup.

This subject of yours reminded me of the very short preparation time that many teams will have to prepare their players.
FIFA requires that all teams present themselves no later than 5 days before the start of the event and clubs need to release athletes just seven days before the start of the competition.
It's a race against time, especially for players outside Europe.
Anyway, I hope that the feared injuries don't push away good players, I want to see the maximum professionalism in this competition.
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I agree with the last part. A few weeks ago, I posted here that African countries would perform really good in the world cup, if players like Pogba, Lukaku and Boateng decide to represent the country of their origin instead of the UEFA teams. But as you posted, there is no guarantee that these teams would even qualify for the world cup. If Lukaku decides to represent Democratic Republic of Congo instead of Belgium, then there is a possibility that the former may fail to qualify and we may never see him in the world cup.

BTW, I don't have any personal enmity with these players. Lukaku was born in Belgium, and it is his choice to represent that country.
But as for the first part, we can remember how badly played (and not in one game, but in several at once) the teams of France and England in the League of Nations. And this does not prevent them from being the favorites for the upcoming World Cup. I think we can evaluate Germany in a similar way. In fact, it is not known which of these teams will be in what shape at the World Championships, plus how luck will turn out. I would not underestimate Germany.
Right now, we can't underestimate any team specially with their performance in League of Nations because this is not certificate that they don't perform in this event, and now they have no better chance in World Cup even they can do much better because most of the teams were trying few strategies and new systems for preparing into world cup and just because of this all they have failures in this event now they are having much better things for this mega event just injuries or players personal issues can bring them down like we have in Paul Pogba case now he is out with injury and have no chance for coming back into game for nearly 3 months which is big setback for France.

So, any injury like this can happen to any player, or he can face long rest, which is going to have big trouble for his team in this world cup.
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I agree with the last part. A few weeks ago, I posted here that African countries would perform really good in the world cup, if players like Pogba, Lukaku and Boateng decide to represent the country of their origin instead of the UEFA teams. But as you posted, there is no guarantee that these teams would even qualify for the world cup. If Lukaku decides to represent Democratic Republic of Congo instead of Belgium, then there is a possibility that the former may fail to qualify and we may never see him in the world cup.

BTW, I don't have any personal enmity with these players. Lukaku was born in Belgium, and it is his choice to represent that country.
But as for the first part, we can remember how badly played (and not in one game, but in several at once) the teams of France and England in the League of Nations. And this does not prevent them from being the favorites for the upcoming World Cup. I think we can evaluate Germany in a similar way. In fact, it is not known which of these teams will be in what shape at the World Championships, plus how luck will turn out. I would not underestimate Germany.
I do agree that big clubs played badly in nations league but that was only because they didn't care about that and it is only a glorified friendly and nothing more. Now? Now we are talking about that actually means something and that is why I agree that it is going to be something special.

I know for a fact that England would not play the same for example, because they wouldn't be changing the line up to see who is available, they will be actually putting all the best they could into this, and play the way they know, they barely lost the Euros just recently. So, I believe that we are in for a big ride, and that is going to definitely be awesome for all the viewers.
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Lionel Messi will give his best contribution to the game in his last season because it seems impossible if he does not contribute to the maximum, he wants to give a good final score at the end of his retirement. the players all have to give full support because if there is no support it will be increasingly difficult for Lionel Messi to give a good match.

A good performance is not useful for Messi, we already have those things at least 4 past World Cups.

Either he wins or it will simply be one of the biggest failures in the history of football, all the possible configurations were always put together around 10 and it has not been possible.

It is perhaps the World Cup where they give Messi the least chance, it is the end of the world championships for Messi (maybe), then he knows that good football want... even a Brazilian would be happy if he wins the world cup.  Cool
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But there will be no North Macedonia in Qatar, so Germany is safe  Grin
I agree about Pandev as well as about any other great players from the "small" football countries. Therefore, if we talk about individual achievements, I always rate the World Cup extremely low (even lower than the Europa League) - after all, a player, no matter how good he is, cannot go to a more ambitious national team and compete for it if he was born in a country where football is poorly developed.

I agree with the last part. A few weeks ago, I posted here that African countries would perform really good in the world cup, if players like Pogba, Lukaku and Boateng decide to represent the country of their origin instead of the UEFA teams. But as you posted, there is no guarantee that these teams would even qualify for the world cup. If Lukaku decides to represent Democratic Republic of Congo instead of Belgium, then there is a possibility that the former may fail to qualify and we may never see him in the world cup.

BTW, I don't have any personal enmity with these players. Lukaku was born in Belgium, and it is his choice to represent that country.

But as for the first part, we can remember how badly played (and not in one game, but in several at once) the teams of France and England in the League of Nations. And this does not prevent them from being the favorites for the upcoming World Cup. I think we can evaluate Germany in a similar way. In fact, it is not known which of these teams will be in what shape at the World Championships, plus how luck will turn out. I would not underestimate Germany.
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Argentina's opportunity to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar is still there and wide open for him, as well as for other countries that have entered the 2022 world cup in Qatar.
But it will not be possible if the Argentine players do not have good cooperation between players and also a good strategy from the coach himself and besides Lionel Messi's current performance is no longer as epic as it used to be.

Once a legend, always a legend. Form is just temporary. It is the class that matters. And we all know that this is going to be the last world cup for Messi. So we can expect him to perform at optimal level this time around. And I agree with the odds given by various sportsbooks. Brazil is the most favored team from the CONMEBOL region. Argentina has sent a very strong side this time, but at least on paper they are below Brazil. At this point, they are 3rd on the FIFA rankings. Brazil is on top, followed by Belgium. A couple of years ago, Argentina was outside top-10. And that shows how much improvement they have made.

By the way, it's very interesting why FIFA rate Belgium so highly, who never achieve high results in the World Cup or the European Championship, but always make them one of the favourites...
As for Messi, he's like Ronaldo, who also didn't have a World Cup winner's cup... You can write Portugal as champions by such criteria... Grin
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Argentina's opportunity to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar is still there and wide open for him, as well as for other countries that have entered the 2022 world cup in Qatar.
But it will not be possible if the Argentine players do not have good cooperation between players and also a good strategy from the coach himself and besides Lionel Messi's current performance is no longer as epic as it used to be.

Once a legend, always a legend. Form is just temporary. It is the class that matters. And we all know that this is going to be the last world cup for Messi. So we can expect him to perform at optimal level this time around. And I agree with the odds given by various sportsbooks. Brazil is the most favored team from the CONMEBOL region. Argentina has sent a very strong side this time, but at least on paper they are below Brazil. At this point, they are 3rd on the FIFA rankings. Brazil is on top, followed by Belgium. A couple of years ago, Argentina was outside top-10. And that shows how much improvement they have made.
I think is will be the last world cup of Renaldo too. Messi and Ronaldo will come up stronger in this game.
Since they will be playing their last world cup. What an amazing era of football they have give to the history.
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Argentina's opportunity to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar is still there and wide open for him, as well as for other countries that have entered the 2022 world cup in Qatar.
But it will not be possible if the Argentine players do not have good cooperation between players and also a good strategy from the coach himself and besides Lionel Messi's current performance is no longer as epic as it used to be.

Once a legend, always a legend. Form is just temporary. It is the class that matters. And we all know that this is going to be the last world cup for Messi. So we can expect him to perform at optimal level this time around. And I agree with the odds given by various sportsbooks. Brazil is the most favored team from the CONMEBOL region. Argentina has sent a very strong side this time, but at least on paper they are below Brazil. At this point, they are 3rd on the FIFA rankings. Brazil is on top, followed by Belgium. A couple of years ago, Argentina was outside top-10. And that shows how much improvement they have made.
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The final proof for the megastar does need to be awaited, but I'm not sure that Leonel Messi still has the ability to do that because to take the world cup trophy really requires good cooperation between players and coaches as you have said so that really needs to be highlighted It's a collaboration thing, not just for someone like Leonel Messi.
Lionel Messi will give his best contribution to the game in his last season because it seems impossible if he does not contribute to the maximum, he wants to give a good final score at the end of his retirement. the players all have to give full support because if there is no support it will be increasingly difficult for Lionel Messi to give a good match.
Every player will definitely give their best game, especially since there is a World Cup match that all players want to play here. But it's true, no player can play alone, they need support and good teamwork. Otherwise they will not get what they want to achieve. Argentina have a good squad, it's just a matter of how they take advantage of that advantage.
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It's just an assumption behind the reason for their unpreparedness to play for their country, but in fact Argentina have not been lucky to be in the previous world cup, so Leonel Messi is in the spotlight because of his personal qualities, both when he is at the club and playing for his country, football is also not a matter of luck, but how the players and coaches can work together collectively, this is what I don't think they have, so they can't beat the world cup stage, so the trophy is very difficult for them to win, for the future the last world cup for Leonel Messi, this will be the event the final proof for the megastar
The final proof for the megastar does need to be awaited, but I'm not sure that Leonel Messi still has the ability to do that because to take the world cup trophy really requires good cooperation between players and coaches as you have said so that really needs to be highlighted It's a collaboration thing, not just for someone like Leonel Messi.
With this is team event and just one or two players can't do anything to win because a strong team combination can give upper hand to any team right now Messi is desperate for this win because this is only trophy which is missing from his career and legendary name things are not easy for them right now but still they are doing good job recently and have good chance for going through in last teams which are strong enough for win this title.

As usual, we have two strong contenders from South America for this event and few quality teams from Europe which are usually doing good in last two decades now we have to watch for last result as these both teams can break strong hold of Europeans, or again they are going to win and having another event in their name and going to rule for another four years on soccer world.
Unfortunately for Messi soccer is a team sport and even if a single player can still have a massive impact he was unable to win the world cup when he was at the peak of his ability, and now that he is not as good as he was before he will need more help from his teammates in order to have a chance, and while I think Argentina has what it is needed to go far in the tournament I am not so sure they have what it is necessary to beat other strong teams like France and Brazil.
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But I'm sure Lionel Messi will put on an epic final performance to help Argentina win the 2022 world cup, still wide open. Argentina's current strength is quite maximal, with a record for three years Argentina has never suffered a defeat in either a test or an official match. Thanks to this brilliance, Argentina won the 2021 Copa America title and the 2022 Finalissima. Messi and other Argentinian players still have a great chance to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar. Argentina could repeat Brazil's success as well as undermine European dominance if they can win the world football championship.
Argentina's opportunity to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar is still there and wide open for him, as well as for other countries that have entered the 2022 world cup in Qatar.
But it will not be possible if the Argentine players do not have good cooperation between players and also a good strategy from the coach himself and besides Lionel Messi's current performance is no longer as epic as it used to be.
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With this is team event and just one or two players can't do anything to win because a strong team combination can give upper hand to any team right now Messi is desperate for this win because this is only trophy which is missing from his career and legendary name things are not easy for them right now but still they are doing good job recently and have good chance for going through in last teams which are strong enough for win this title.

As usual, we have two strong contenders from South America for this event and few quality teams from Europe which are usually doing good in last two decades now we have to watch for last result as these both teams can break strong hold of Europeans, or again they are going to win and having another event in their name and going to rule for another four years on soccer world.

Yeah, Argentina and Brazil are absolutely going to pass to the next stage in the world cup. I would even say that Uruguay will be  there as well.

Europe does have more countries that have won the cup earlier though, so there will be a lot of competition there.

It's really hard to know which team will end up winning, but my guess is that the final will be a country from Europe versus a country from South America.

Can't wait to see the world cup
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I like your words, football is also not a matter of luck.

the collectivity of players on a team is an important reference in football, as a team they must play hand in hand working together to create a win both in tournament competitions or in league matches.

regarding messi, i think messi has given his best game in every international match however, messi is very unlucky to be able to lift the world cup trophy.  
I remember in the 2014 Argentina vs Germany final, Messi's performance was so brilliant against Germany but luck was not on his side until Argentina lost 0-1 to Germany.

departing from the CONMEBOL champions yesterday I think messi and the argentina squad have the potential to win the Qatar 2022 world cup trophy and will be the last match for him in his world cup career.
Hopefully in this world cup match, Argentina has a chance to become champions. Even though we know it will be difficult, because football has developed so much, many countries have players collectively who are quite capable, besides Messi only has one more chance at the world cup, so that proof is very crucial to be at stakestake

The final proof for the megastar does need to be awaited, but I'm not sure that Leonel Messi still has the ability to do that because to take the world cup trophy really requires good cooperation between players and coaches as you have said so that really needs to be highlighted It's a collaboration thing, not just for someone like Leonel Messi.
Yes, that's right, so I mentioned that the collective of players must be truly united and able to play fully by all players, not because of one person Leonel Messi, if this burden is only given a big task to Messi, then I can assure you, they will not get there. semi-final, teamwork, coach and Messi are needed to get to the final

But I'm sure Lionel Messi will put on an epic final performance to help Argentina win the 2022 world cup, still wide open. Argentina's current strength is quite maximal, with a record for three years Argentina has never suffered a defeat in either a test or an official match. Thanks to this brilliance, Argentina won the 2021 Copa America title and the 2022 Finalissima. Messi and other Argentinian players still have a great chance to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar. Argentina could repeat Brazil's success as well as undermine European dominance if they can win the world football championship.
Hopefully what you say is true, Argentina's dominance in the group stage is still quite maximum, but we have to understand that the world cup is the highest in football, many countries, players and coaches will have high hopes here, but if cooperation can't be done perfectly, so getting to the final is quite a difficult job

With this is team event and just one or two players can't do anything to win because a strong team combination can give upper hand to any team right now Messi is desperate for this win because this is only trophy which is missing from his career and legendary name things are not easy for them right now but still they are doing good job recently and have good chance for going through in last teams which are strong enough for win this title.

As usual, we have two strong contenders from South America for this event and few quality teams from Europe which are usually doing good in last two decades now we have to watch for last result as these both teams can break strong hold of Europeans, or again they are going to win and having another event in their name and going to rule for another four years on soccer world.
The development of football is now so developed, so that the dominance of one or two countries is no longer so strong, many countries are so ready to be in the world cup, but also not many are able to reach the final.
That is why the need for collectivity in playing, because one star player is not enough to compete there, America has several strong countries in the world cup event not to mention Europe, so it is difficult to reach the final, if there is no teamwork and a great coach
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The final proof for the megastar does need to be awaited, but I'm not sure that Leonel Messi still has the ability to do that because to take the world cup trophy really requires good cooperation between players and coaches as you have said so that really needs to be highlighted It's a collaboration thing, not just for someone like Leonel Messi.
Lionel Messi will give his best contribution to the game in his last season because it seems impossible if he does not contribute to the maximum, he wants to give a good final score at the end of his retirement. the players all have to give full support because if there is no support it will be increasingly difficult for Lionel Messi to give a good match.
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But there will be no North Macedonia in Qatar, so Germany is safe  Grin
I agree about Pandev as well as about any other great players from the "small" football countries. Therefore, if we talk about individual achievements, I always rate the World Cup extremely low (even lower than the Europa League) - after all, a player, no matter how good he is, cannot go to a more ambitious national team and compete for it if he was born in a country where football is poorly developed.

I agree with the last part. A few weeks ago, I posted here that African countries would perform really good in the world cup, if players like Pogba, Lukaku and Boateng decide to represent the country of their origin instead of the UEFA teams. But as you posted, there is no guarantee that these teams would even qualify for the world cup. If Lukaku decides to represent Democratic Republic of Congo instead of Belgium, then there is a possibility that the former may fail to qualify and we may never see him in the world cup.

BTW, I don't have any personal enmity with these players. Lukaku was born in Belgium, and it is his choice to represent that country.
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It's just an assumption behind the reason for their unpreparedness to play for their country, but in fact Argentina have not been lucky to be in the previous world cup, so Leonel Messi is in the spotlight because of his personal qualities, both when he is at the club and playing for his country, football is also not a matter of luck, but how the players and coaches can work together collectively, this is what I don't think they have, so they can't beat the world cup stage, so the trophy is very difficult for them to win, for the future the last world cup for Leonel Messi, this will be the event the final proof for the megastar
The final proof for the megastar does need to be awaited, but I'm not sure that Leonel Messi still has the ability to do that because to take the world cup trophy really requires good cooperation between players and coaches as you have said so that really needs to be highlighted It's a collaboration thing, not just for someone like Leonel Messi.
With this is team event and just one or two players can't do anything to win because a strong team combination can give upper hand to any team right now Messi is desperate for this win because this is only trophy which is missing from his career and legendary name things are not easy for them right now but still they are doing good job recently and have good chance for going through in last teams which are strong enough for win this title.

As usual, we have two strong contenders from South America for this event and few quality teams from Europe which are usually doing good in last two decades now we have to watch for last result as these both teams can break strong hold of Europeans, or again they are going to win and having another event in their name and going to rule for another four years on soccer world.
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The simplest example that refutes all historical patterns is the Spanish national team, which literally in 4 years (2008-2012) turned from losers into kings. There is no reason to believe that one day England will not find its fortune. As for Germany, I would say that this is one of the most "team" teams imaginable, it's just that in recent years their level has fallen below the usual.

It is difficult to have any trust on Germany, after their pathetic loss to North Macedonia early during the UEFA qualifiers. It is not just the fact that they got defeated against a team that is ranked much below them. For much of the match, the Macedonians dominated them. Goran Pandev was in the Macedonian squad for that match. Feels bad about him, because he is one of the legends who never get a chance to play in the world cup. His case is similar to that of Gareth Bale. Bale will be participating in the world cup for the first time in 2022, but Pandev is already 39 years old and he will never get a chance.

But there will be no North Macedonia in Qatar, so Germany is safe  Grin
I agree about Pandev as well as about any other great players from the "small" football countries. Therefore, if we talk about individual achievements, I always rate the World Cup extremely low (even lower than the Europa League) - after all, a player, no matter how good he is, cannot go to a more ambitious national team and compete for it if he was born in a country where football is poorly developed.
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It's just an assumption behind the reason for their unpreparedness to play for their country, but in fact Argentina have not been lucky to be in the previous world cup, so Leonel Messi is in the spotlight because of his personal qualities, both when he is at the club and playing for his country, football is also not a matter of luck, but how the players and coaches can work together collectively, this is what I don't think they have, so they can't beat the world cup stage, so the trophy is very difficult for them to win, for the future the last world cup for Leonel Messi, this will be the event the final proof for the megastar
The final proof for the megastar does need to be awaited, but I'm not sure that Leonel Messi still has the ability to do that because to take the world cup trophy really requires good cooperation between players and coaches as you have said so that really needs to be highlighted It's a collaboration thing, not just for someone like Leonel Messi.

But I'm sure Lionel Messi will put on an epic final performance to help Argentina win the 2022 world cup, still wide open. Argentina's current strength is quite maximal, with a record for three years Argentina has never suffered a defeat in either a test or an official match. Thanks to this brilliance, Argentina won the 2021 Copa America title and the 2022 Finalissima. Messi and other Argentinian players still have a great chance to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar. Argentina could repeat Brazil's success as well as undermine European dominance if they can win the world football championship.
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