2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 69.

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Messi will be playing his best for this world cup as it's probably going to his last opportunity to grab this cup for Argentina.
A similar story appears with Cristiano Ronaldo, for Portugal.
Both are excellent players but both have failed to win the world cup for their country. This is their chance.
A Portugal Argentina final would be incredible.

We need to remember is that this is going to be a different world cup. I believe that there is a huge probability that Argentina will win the 2022 World Cup. The Euro 2022 proved that the team that will come together can do amazing things. The tournament is just one month and everything has to be perfect for one month but you need to start the tournament with the right foot. This team has the talent, and have shown the grit and strength that will take off some of the burden off of Messi. This team isn’t Messi dependent. They have arguably the best goalie that Argentina have had in Martinez. A solid midfield who will also fight to get the ball back. And an above average defense that has a mixture of youth and experience. They might not be the best team right now but they have the structure, togetherness, are tactically powerful and experienced.

There are a lot of teams that are better than Argentina lining up for this world cup. Personally, I find it very difficult to believe Argentina will win the Euro 2022 World Cup. But this team right now is obviously a lot better than the last world cup. They have a few weaknesses in the defensive lineup but overall they are quite balanced I will say. Argentina is going to have big problems in the defense because the last time we all knew what happened was when Argentina was playing against France. It feels like they had no match for the pace of mbappe. And I have to say since then the defense of Argentina hasn't improved. Christian Romero and Lisandro Martinez should be the backbone of Argentina's defense, but I don't think the other defenders are dependable.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on July 18, 2022, 05:52:32 AM

I agree with this.
France and England were not very convincing in the last competition of the League of Nations this year and achieved worse results, but that does not mean anything.
There is still a lot of time until the world football championship in Qatar, and the players will take this competition much more seriously and prepare much better.
Considering the difficult weather conditions and the large number of quality teams, and the fact that the competition will be very hard for all players, the team that is physically and mentally the most prepared will win.
A very exciting and uncertain competition awaits us, and I give a small advantage to France and Brazil for the title.

I agree that France is currently underperforming in the last few matches especially in the European Cup, I think this time it will be different from the performance in the last few matches. After all, France has a lot of talented players and a winning mentality. I'm sure France can enter the semi-finals and maybe qualify as champions. We agree for the English team, but at least England has the potential to qualify for the big 8 round.

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Argentina is also to me the best team at the moment having the best players compared to most other teams,France have good ones but they are not at the same level as Messi and company which I think are eager to win this trophy which is missing to them since the distant year of 1986 and having lost the final in 1990,the last one for Maradona playing as a star player.

Sure other teams like Brazil and many others have also very talented players and this make this World Cup really great to watch and I can understand why fans are not that patient until this event starts in this upcoming November.

What we cannot forget is that the analysis we make of the teams at the moment is based on last season.
But, the Worlds will take place in the middle of the next season, where other players can emerge in better shape and start to look different.
And Argentina has a lot of players playing for the best European clubs, so everything could be different from what we saw last season.

Argentina has never had a shortage of star-branded players, but sadly they could never speak more at this biggest football festival. Their problem is in the defense if you look at the previous years. But now their condition is better, they can even make achievements lately. This will be a good capital for them to fight in the Qatar World Cup.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on July 18, 2022, 05:52:32 AM

I agree with this.
France and England were not very convincing in the last competition of the League of Nations this year and achieved worse results, but that does not mean anything.
There is still a lot of time until the world football championship in Qatar, and the players will take this competition much more seriously and prepare much better.
Considering the difficult weather conditions and the large number of quality teams, and the fact that the competition will be very hard for all players, the team that is physically and mentally the most prepared will win.
A very exciting and uncertain competition awaits us, and I give a small advantage to France and Brazil for the title.

Added to the fact that it will be the first time that a World Cup will not take place at the end of the season in Europe. In other words, it will be a totally new analysis, because the World Cup will take place at a very important stage for the European clubs of the season.

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Argentina is also to me the best team at the moment having the best players compared to most other teams,France have good ones but they are not at the same level as Messi and company which I think are eager to win this trophy which is missing to them since the distant year of 1986 and having lost the final in 1990,the last one for Maradona playing as a star player.

Sure other teams like Brazil and many others have also very talented players and this make this World Cup really great to watch and I can understand why fans are not that patient until this event starts in this upcoming November.

What we cannot forget is that the analysis we make of the teams at the moment is based on last season.
But, the Worlds will take place in the middle of the next season, where other players can emerge in better shape and start to look different.
And Argentina has a lot of players playing for the best European clubs, so everything could be different from what we saw last season.

I agree with this.
France and England were not very convincing in the last competition of the League of Nations this year and achieved worse results, but that does not mean anything.
There is still a lot of time until the world football championship in Qatar, and the players will take this competition much more seriously and prepare much better.
Considering the difficult weather conditions and the large number of quality teams, and the fact that the competition will be very hard for all players, the team that is physically and mentally the most prepared will win.
A very exciting and uncertain competition awaits us, and I give a small advantage to France and Brazil for the title.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 18, 2022, 02:40:56 AM

Argentina is also to me the best team at the moment having the best players compared to most other teams,France have good ones but they are not at the same level as Messi and company which I think are eager to win this trophy which is missing to them since the distant year of 1986 and having lost the final in 1990,the last one for Maradona playing as a star player.

Sure other teams like Brazil and many others have also very talented players and this make this World Cup really great to watch and I can understand why fans are not that patient until this event starts in this upcoming November.

What we cannot forget is that the analysis we make of the teams at the moment is based on last season.
But, the Worlds will take place in the middle of the next season, where other players can emerge in better shape and start to look different.
And Argentina has a lot of players playing for the best European clubs, so everything could be different from what we saw last season.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on July 17, 2022, 04:12:14 PM

Argentina at the moment have been in fine form since making an appearance in the Copa America and were able to win the trophy, they have lots of talented players and they look more ambitious this time. France to me are the favourites to win this World Cup because of the kind of squad they have, players like William Saliba, Karim Benzema, Dembele, etc with very good squad but their form has being pretty poor. Anyways, they could still come back stronger with time. The same with the Brazilian team with good squad and talented players, they also stand as contenders for the world cup this year.

Argentina is also to me the best team at the moment having the best players compared to most other teams,France have good ones but they are not at the same level as Messi and company which I think are eager to win this trophy which is missing to them since the distant year of 1986 and having lost the final in 1990,the last one for Maradona playing as a star player.

Sure other teams like Brazil and many others have also very talented players and this make this World Cup really great to watch and I can understand why fans are not that patient until this event starts in this upcoming November.

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Argentina always has a chance to become world champions. They don't just have Messi, of course. He is the most important player, but besides Messi there are also other great players in the team. In 2014 they were close when they lost the final to Germany. But also for Argentina it has been a long time since they became world champions. The last time was in 1986 in Mexico with Maradona. If Messi wants to become world champion again, it will really have to happen this year, but that also applies to Belgium.

As count down is heading for World Cup debate is also heated up about who is going to win this World Cup with now Brazil last time won in 2002 and Argentina won in 1986 mean this is the biggest gape for Brazil in two World Cup wins with this we can feel their quality is also going down, and they are not producing players those can do this for them.

Argentina is not having history like them but still they won in 1978 and 1986 which is their best achievements so with this all we can't take any solid point for who is going to win but with team ability we can talk right now both teams are in good shape and having good chance for going through into last four after this they could be faced some of the toughest challenge and this is surely from France, Germany Portugal and England.

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Argentina at the moment have been in fine form since making an appearance in the Copa America and were able to win the trophy, they have lots of talented players and they look more ambitious this time. France to me are the favourites to win this World Cup because of the kind of squad they have, players like William Saliba, Karim Benzema, Dembele, etc with very good squad but their form has being pretty poor. Anyways, they could still come back stronger with time. The same with the Brazilian team with good squad and talented players, they also stand as contenders for the world cup this year.

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Argentina always has a chance to become world champions. They don't just have Messi, of course. He is the most important player, but besides Messi there are also other great players in the team. In 2014 they were close when they lost the final to Germany. But also for Argentina it has been a long time since they became world champions. The last time was in 1986 in Mexico with Maradona. If Messi wants to become world champion again, it will really have to happen this year, but that also applies to Belgium.

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I don't know if they do not rely on Messi or not. Do you think Martinez or Dybala would be enough to actually make them win the title? Messi is still the most important piece of the puzzle and in ANY game he plays badly, they have a high chance of getting eliminated. Martinez could have a bad game, but we all know Messi could turn it around himself, but if Messi plays badly, Martinez turning it around would be unlikely situation.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't be expecting Argentina to win, this isn't a league, it's a tournament and there bound to be at least one game where Messi will play bad, and that's when they will end up losing and getting eliminated.

It will be difficult for Argentina to be eliminate from this tournament because their players are well organized to demonstrate well to eliminate many teams from this competition to win the title. Messi is among the potential players Argentina managements don't joke with if it comes to FIFA world cup competition which is a competition many players come to demonstrate who they are in their team which Messi is fully ready to help their team to achieve something good from this competition.

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I don't know if they do not rely on Messi or not. Do you think Martinez or Dybala would be enough to actually make them win the title? Messi is still the most important piece of the puzzle and in ANY game he plays badly, they have a high chance of getting eliminated. Martinez could have a bad game, but we all know Messi could turn it around himself, but if Messi plays badly, Martinez turning it around would be unlikely situation.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't be expecting Argentina to win, this isn't a league, it's a tournament and there bound to be at least one game where Messi will play bad, and that's when they will end up losing and getting eliminated.

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Quote from: Despairo on July 17, 2022, 05:21:34 AM

Actually Argentina is rounded club and not really depend on Messi, Messi isn't the same player when he was young. I'd say he's now a good assist rather than a scorer, but it seems Messi will play as center forward in the World Cup.
France? Really? it's not a rounded club and only focus both of Benzema and Mbappe as the strikers. I'd say France is overrated, Benzema and Mbappe in one team aren't a good choice. They need to have a winger who will support the center forward either Benzema or Mbappe.
I tend to agree Brazil is rounded club, don't forget about Spain too.

Currently, if we cut out from these teams for hot favorite surely no doubt Argentina is one of the best team in current shape, and they can do much better than we are having on papers about them most of the players are having good experience of playing in UEFA and as unit they are also in good shape with now they are not relaying on Messi for goals he just can assist them for having their chances which is good recently they won Copa América which is also good.

After Argentina, we have second favorite team is also from South America mean Brazil which is also having few very talented players and all in good touch with having good experience of playing with each other recently their performance is also not bad at all with this all most chances these two teams are at top of their game with having challenge from France, Germany and Portugal.

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Quote from: Despairo on July 17, 2022, 05:21:34 AM

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Portugal fans could say the same about their national team, that this is Ronaldo's last chance to become a world champion Grin

Argentina is a good team, but are they really good enough to become world champions?
Still that team is too dependent on one player, Messi and that is not good for them.
Messi achieved his greatest football successes in Barcelona, a top team that had a lot of outstanding football players.
In the national team, Messi doesn't have such good teammates and it is much more difficult for him to play, because everything depends on him and the pressure is much higher.
I give Brazil and France a much better chance for the world championship title because they are much better balanced teams with a lot of quality football players.

Actually Argentina is rounded club and not really depend on Messi, Messi isn't the same player when he was young. I'd say he's now a good assist rather than a scorer, but it seems Messi will play as center forward in the World Cup.
France? Really? it's not a rounded club and only focus both of Benzema and Mbappe as the strikers. I'd say France is overrated, Benzema and Mbappe in one team aren't a good choice. They need to have a winger who will support the center forward either Benzema or Mbappe.
I tend to agree Brazil is rounded club, don't forget about Spain too.

The Argentina team now has several talented players. So Argentina will now not only rely on Messi to score goals. Moreover, Argentina's defense is now more stable and strong than in the past. If they can maintain consistency, Argentina can reach the semi-final or the final.

France has plenty of star players. But their overall performance is poor. The main reason for this is that their match strategy is not good. At the same time, France faced problems scoring goals due to the lack of understabding between Benzema and Mbappe.

There are plenty of talented players in the Brazil squad. However, their performance is unpredictable. Brazil is a very strong team with Neymar in the squad. But his fitness is not good.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on July 17, 2022, 02:41:24 AM

Portugal fans could say the same about their national team, that this is Ronaldo's last chance to become a world champion Grin

Argentina is a good team, but are they really good enough to become world champions?
Still that team is too dependent on one player, Messi and that is not good for them.
Messi achieved his greatest football successes in Barcelona, a top team that had a lot of outstanding football players.
In the national team, Messi doesn't have such good teammates and it is much more difficult for him to play, because everything depends on him and the pressure is much higher.
I give Brazil and France a much better chance for the world championship title because they are much better balanced teams with a lot of quality football players.

Actually Argentina is rounded club and not really depend on Messi, Messi isn't the same player when he was young. I'd say he's now a good assist rather than a scorer, but it seems Messi will play as center forward in the World Cup.
France? Really? it's not a rounded club and only focus both of Benzema and Mbappe as the strikers. I'd say France is overrated, Benzema and Mbappe in one team aren't a good choice. They need to have a winger who will support the center forward either Benzema or Mbappe.
I tend to agree Brazil is rounded club, don't forget about Spain too.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on July 16, 2022, 03:08:23 PM

I don't even remember when Argentina last became champions at the World Cup.

the last world champion in 1986.

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They have a lot of good players in the team, but for some reason they are not able to show great achievements. Apparently, there is a problem of interaction between the players in the national team, because individually in their clubs they are the legends of world football. But Argentina has not reached the quarter-finals, semi-finals for a long time, and this eventually affects the players and the team. I like Argentina, but I'm not sure that they can go far in the playoffs, let alone become champions.

it seems you forgot i was going to tell you in 2014 argentina entered the final with germany.
Argentina to become Copa America 2021 champions.
You can see the changes that have occurred. thus argentina is in its best form. one important note in my opinion, the argentina squad almost all play in the european league, and messi will give his best game because this is his last international competition.

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need to be underlined I'm not saying idols in the past will be the same as the style of modern football players as it is today.
I said, I idolized some Argentinian stars from time to time. i agree that argentina doesn't have many stars but you have to remember there are a lot of argentina players who play in the european league, the european continent has much greater potential it can be justified seeing the development of european football is more complex than latin america, but we will find out after the world cup begins.
predictions stay predictions.

Argentina is not an absolutely bad team right now. They are also not one of the best, I can say that they are a good team. But I am I'm not sure about the defensive lineup of Argentina right now. I know that they can attack well but in the defense, I don't think they are very reliable. There are a lot of better teams in this world cup playing compared to Argentina. But I would really like to say Argentina gets the world cup this time because it is going to be the last World Cup for Lionel Messi. I also hope for a good performance from Dybala.

Portugal fans could say the same about their national team, that this is Ronaldo's last chance to become a world champion Grin

Argentina is a good team, but are they really good enough to become world champions?
Still that team is too dependent on one player, Messi and that is not good for them.
Messi achieved his greatest football successes in Barcelona, a top team that had a lot of outstanding football players.
In the national team, Messi doesn't have such good teammates and it is much more difficult for him to play, because everything depends on him and the pressure is much higher.
I give Brazil and France a much better chance for the world championship title because they are much better balanced teams with a lot of quality football players.

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Last world cup for both Messi and Ronaldo. Both of their respective teams would give 100% in to it. But then, the European teams (England, France, Germany, Spain, Netherlands.etc) can be tough opponents. I don't think that Ronaldo winning the cup for Portugal is a possible scenario. But still have hopes for Argentina. No guarantee here, but at least I can say that the current Argentine team is the best they had sent to the world cup in the last three decades. I can't say the same about any of the teams that I mentioned in this post.

I include England. They have a much better team than they've had in recent years. I even believe they will surprise a lot. I'm not saying they'll win, but at least they'll go far.

The England team has been pretty solid this year. there will be many surprises in the world cup Qatar. I still support Brazil. a lot of star players on the team, and I hope they can play better than in the qualifiers.
not to mention the dark horse team from Asia. this year it looks like quite a lot of Asian representatives. and it can provide a lot of surprises for the big favorites.

Brazil and Argentina are undoubtedly the two strongest candidates from South America to reach the championship. It will be a pleasure for us to watch Messi and Ronaldo in this tournament. A world cup wouldn't be fun without the two of them. One of my favorite things is the colorful versions of the fans. Brazilian fans are so hot. They give a lot of support for their country. A country that has always won my sympathy. I hope they will be the winner.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on July 15, 2022, 04:40:00 PM

Russia is definitely better than a number of other countries in the world championship. On the other hand, they obviously don't have any significant role when it comes to the championship. And they can't beat the top 10 countries either. Russia would be good to maybe survive the group, but after that it would be the end of the story. The same goes for Ukraine, by the way. Of course it sucks for the Russian nation and the Russian football players, some of them have never been allowed to participate in a World Cup. The next opportunity will be the European Championship in 2 years. France and Brazil have real world players in both teams. But Brazil in particular has been very disappointed in the last 20 years and has not won 1 title. Bizarre.

From next world cup onwards, AFC will be allotted 8 slots in the world cup. I have already posted this one. Russia should try to move from UEFA to AFC, as the former has become too politically charged. Irrespective of whatever benefits they get by remaining in UEFA (in terms of funds and exposure), I am sure that they will be in a more comfortable position and will be treated fairly if they move to the AFC. Culturally they are close to Europe, but then they have strong ties with the Asian continent as well.

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Quote from: redsun114 on July 12, 2022, 02:32:24 AM

There are many governmental stuff when we go towards lower level nations as well. I have seen it in my own nation, and I have seen it in some other nations as well. When it goes and becomes a huge nation that plays to win, that gets lower of course but still not zero, there are still some team politics and real life politics impact as well. In the end, I believe big teams are big for a reason and we probably already know the winner.

It is between 3-4 teams and maybe 1-2 other teams could have a smaller say in it, that's about it. Whatever else happens with other teams doesn't matter, they will lose anyway, I never seen an unexpected team win world cup before, doubt we will ever see it.

A lot of people always try to keep politics out of sports but we all know that it does not happen. Sports are often mixed with politics. and that does not generally bring good results for any sports. If you just look at the players we will be able to understand how each team can play in the world cup. I remember in the last World Cup that I said France has a really good squad and they will be able to win the World Cup in my opinion. and that did end up happening. this time also France looks to be the best team.

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