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It is every player's dream the attain that height in their career,  winning the world cup and for these two legends in the sport have not achieved that. They would do their best to win the world cup this year as it could be their last opportunity with their national team but thinking about it, Messi has had the upper hand and in the best team to win the world cup this past years with Argentina but couldn't, their team is much stronger than the Portugal team and has more stars than the Portugal team but has failed to do so. Maybe they could surprise the world this time in Qatar.

Yeah, absolutely agree with that.

I think Argentina would win against Portugal in a final. It would also be an incredible final to watch, but yes, I agree that as a team, Argentina is better than Portugal, even though both are excellent teams
Argentina and Portugal both have the world's best players in their squads, the ability of Messi and Ronaldo so far we certainly can't doubt but compared to Portugal, Argentina has a more complex squad depth both in defense and attack at the moment, In addition, the ability factor Argentina in winning the Copa America trophy and also the Finalissima made me even more convinced that Argentina would win if they met Portugal later.
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I would say France has the most star players in this World Cup. But in Euro, we have not seen a better performance than France. Moreover, the performance of France in the last few matches was weak. On the other hand, Spain has a lot of talented players, but they are not experienced enough. And so to me, the squads of Brazil and Argentina seem the most stable and strong. Because there is continuity in the performances of these two teams, which I do not see in the performances of France or Spain.

Surprised that you have mentioned Argentina. I have checked their recent record, and honestly, I couldn't find any consistency. One good thing with Argentina is that whatever issues they had with team bonding seems to have got resolved. There was always an argument that Lionel Messi performs better with Barcelona (and now with Paris Saint-Germain), when compared to the Argentine national team. With Brazil, I have never heard about any such issues. Their team bonding seems to be perfect.

I still think that Argentina has a lot of problems and that those problems are getting slowly resolved. On next world cup i dont thimk they can give their 100%. They have an amazing attack but they suck at defence and i think the entire team just wont go well togheter
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Argentine players do not have enough stars to now, they rely more on Messi to play, while soccer games have developed enough for now, Europe has a much greater potential for the future World Cup, if you see the players they have, placement that is obsessed with Idol in the past, no longer a guarantee for the current soccer style, because the progress of football is far more developed for now, almost all countries have potential stars
The Argentine team still have many star players, they have always relied on Lionel Messi in the past and even now just the way Portugal are relying on Ronaldo to lead them to victory all the time. Argentina has kept a very good form recently and look to be one of my favourites to get to the final of the world cup and it will be really trilling to have a final with Argentina playing against Portugal.
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It is every player's dream the attain that height in their career,  winning the world cup and for these two legends in the sport have not achieved that. They would do their best to win the world cup this year as it could be their last opportunity with their national team but thinking about it, Messi has had the upper hand and in the best team to win the world cup this past years with Argentina but couldn't, their team is much stronger than the Portugal team and has more stars than the Portugal team but has failed to do so. Maybe they could surprise the world this time in Qatar.

Yeah, absolutely agree with that.

I think Argentina would win against Portugal in a final. It would also be an incredible final to watch, but yes, I agree that as a team, Argentina is better than Portugal, even though both are excellent teams
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Messi will be playing his best for this world cup as it's probably going to his last opportunity to grab this cup for Argentina.

A similar story appears with Cristiano Ronaldo, for Portugal.

Both are excellent players but both have failed to win the world cup for their country. This is their chance.

A Portugal Argentina final would be incredible.
It is every player's dream the attain that height in their career,  winning the world cup and for these two legends in the sport have not achieved that. They would do their best to win the world cup this year as it could be their last opportunity with their national team but thinking about it, Messi has had the upper hand and in the best team to win the world cup this past years with Argentina but couldn't, their team is much stronger than the Portugal team and has more stars than the Portugal team but has failed to do so. Maybe they could surprise the world this time in Qatar.
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You can’t find a continuation of Argentina’s team performance! But they are unbeaten in more than 30 matches. Isn't this a continuum? They have done great in Copa America. They defeated the strong Brazil team. And they have also been able to beat Euro champions Italy. At the same time, their gameplay and the bonding between the players are excellent. I am very surprised that you do not think Argentina is the favourite for the World Cup despite all these achievements.

In that case, I stand corrected. I am a big fan of Argentina. But a lot of times, I was frustrated with their poor form in the world cup. But this time, they do have a realistic chance, since the team bonding is really good and Messi is in great form. What bothers me is the fact that they last won the world cup more than 3 decades ago (in 1986, when they defeated FRG by a margin of 3-2. Jorge Burruchaga scored the winning goal). And back then they had legendary players such as Diego Maradona and Sergio Batista in the squad.
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For me, it would not have been a realistic final if I had heard that Iceland and Northern Macedonia would play. And Argentina and Portugal are the top teams considered by many to be favourites, so it can't be ruled out that they will make the final. Although I agree that there are many other contenders as well.

Although I think that Portugal has the capacity to reach the final. Will you make it? I liked...  Roll Eyes But honestly, I have a hard time believing it gets there.

Now, I believe we will have excellent games, and it will be perhaps one of the most competitive World Cups in recent years.
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Messi will be playing his best for this world cup as it's probably going to his last opportunity to grab this cup for Argentina.
A similar story appears with Cristiano Ronaldo, for Portugal.
Both are excellent players but both have failed to win the world cup for their country. This is their chance.
A Portugal Argentina final would be incredible.
There is no doubt both legendary players are capable of doing challenging things for their countries but for me still both are not going to win this world cup because we need a perfect team unit to win this mega event and both are having serious flaws in their teams which are not going to help them for having any better chance.
I never thought final could be happened between these two teams because of me most chances Portugal is not going to reach into last four and Argentina can reach but with most chances for few European teams because they are having much better squads and depth in their teams, so they can do much better than them as well.

We all know that a Portugal versus Argentina final is not going to happen. There are many better teams like France, Croatia, Germany, England, and a few others that seem to be very successful. So among all these teams, a final between Argentina and Portugal seems to be really not realistic. But it would be awesome to see a final like that.
For me, it would not have been a realistic final if I had heard that Iceland and Northern Macedonia would play. And Argentina and Portugal are the top teams considered by many to be favourites, so it can't be ruled out that they will make the final. Although I agree that there are many other contenders as well.
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I would say France has the most star players in this World Cup. But in Euro, we have not seen a better performance than France. Moreover, the performance of France in the last few matches was weak. On the other hand, Spain has a lot of talented players, but they are not experienced enough. And so to me, the squads of Brazil and Argentina seem the most stable and strong. Because there is continuity in the performances of these two teams, which I do not see in the performances of France or Spain.
Surprised that you have mentioned Argentina. I have checked their recent record, and honestly, I couldn't find any consistency. One good thing with Argentina is that whatever issues they had with team bonding seems to have got resolved. There was always an argument that Lionel Messi performs better with Barcelona (and now with Paris Saint-Germain), when compared to the Argentine national team. With Brazil, I have never heard about any such issues. Their team bonding seems to be perfect.

You can’t find a continuation of Argentina’s team performance! But they are unbeaten in more than 30 matches. Isn't this a continuum? They have done great in Copa America. They defeated the strong Brazil team. And they have also been able to beat Euro champions Italy. At the same time, their gameplay and the bonding between the players are excellent. I am very surprised that you do not think Argentina is the favourite for the World Cup despite all these achievements.
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I agree that Messi is a complete player and he is very lucky to have such an extraordinary talent, although Messi's performances were not very good playing at PSG last season. I believe Messi will present the best spectacle for fans at the Qatar World Cup, the quality of Dimaria and Dybala cannot be underestimated. They have talents that are not much different from the many stars who will compete in the Qatar World Cup, I am sure Argentina and their squad will perform the best game.

Yes, Messi is a great player and I believe he didn't perform well in PSG last season because of the presence of Neymar and Mbappe who also wants their names to be seen as the best player in the world and the club also. I think going to the World Cup in Qatar, Messi will have a great opportunity for him to prove to the World that he is still the best player despite his age and the club that he is currently playing for at the moment, and he will all be hoping to end his world cup appearance with his country Argentina with the world cup medal that he has not won before. With the presence of Dybala and Dimaria in the Argentine squad, the team is going to go as far as winning the world cup in Qatar.
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Messi will be playing his best for this world cup as it's probably going to his last opportunity to grab this cup for Argentina.

A similar story appears with Cristiano Ronaldo, for Portugal.

Both are excellent players but both have failed to win the world cup for their country. This is their chance.

A Portugal Argentina final would be incredible.

We need to remember is that this is going to be a different world cup. I believe that there is a huge probability that Argentina will win the 2022 World Cup. The Euro 2022 proved that the team that will come together can do amazing things. The tournament is just one month and everything has to be perfect for one month but you need to start the tournament with the right foot. This team has the talent, and have shown the grit and strength that will take off some of the burden off of Messi. This team isn’t Messi dependent. They have arguably the best goalie that Argentina have had in Martinez. A solid midfield who will also fight to get the ball back. And an above average defense that has a mixture of youth and experience. They might not be the best team right now but they have the structure, togetherness, are tactically powerful and experienced.
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Yes, you're right, but Argentina still has Messi and I think that a player as complete as he is is very lucky, at least he has the DiMaria and Dybala noodles who, when they serve separately, are stars who are in very good shape, the others players only have to complement them, but in terms of stars I don't see it as bad. And if they get a good coach where they can mesh each skill of these players well, they could easily reach a cup final and win it, in fact this is the last chance Messi has to do it.


I agree that Messi is a complete player and he is very lucky to have such an extraordinary talent, although Messi's performances were not very good playing at PSG last season. I believe Messi will present the best spectacle for fans at the Qatar World Cup, the quality of Dimaria and Dybala cannot be underestimated. They have talents that are not much different from the many stars who will compete in the Qatar World Cup, I am sure Argentina and their squad will perform the best game.
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England will have to play a lot better to become world champions. It may not say everything, but they lost 0-4 at home to Hungary last in the Nations League? I don't see countries like Brazil and France doing that anytime soon. And then also at home. I think England made a bad and strange choice with the appointment of Southgate as coach. Little experience and no big club trained. England is not just a country to coach. They should have asked someone else. Would Ferguson not be interested? I think this World Cup is going to be a huge disappointment for England.

I think, England coach has a lot of work to do to bring the team back  again by increasing their performance in this world cup. England fans was not happy about the poor performance they experienced during the nation league, that is causing their country fear if they will be able to perform well in the world cup competition. I believe England will definitely improve higher in world cup competition, because their coach is well prepared to introduce more tactics that will help the team to achieve victory through out the tournament.
Well, England is a team that can look bad on some occasions, I think that every team goes through moments like these, but looking at it from another point of view, in the World Cup all the teams grow, there is no place to falter, the technical director can look very bad with a scoreboard at that time, but I'm sure there will be better ways to face a World Cup, the English players they have are very good, they need to engage all that talent and look for the best strategy, by now they should be By studying each team, at least the one in your group, you could get an idea of what and how they can face them.

I also don’t know why everyone is so obsessed with Argentina and Brazil. There are other teams in South America. But I do have high hopes from both Argentina and Brazil in this World Cup. You know that this was the last World Cup for both Messi and Neymar. So, I am hoping to see something special from both of these teams.

I think the placement of the word obsessed is not right but rather is a fan.  
There are many football legends from Argentina and I am one of those who idolized Argentina from the era of Maradona, Ortega, Batistuta, Pablo Aimar, Tevez, Aguero until the Messi era. would be complete if messi can bring the world cup trophy with the end of his career in international matches.  However, the European continent also has many excellent teams that have the potential to win the title of world champion. I think Germany, France is a superior team that has the potential to enter the semi-finals.
Argentine players do not have enough stars to now, they rely more on Messi to play, while soccer games have developed enough for now, Europe has a much greater potential for the future World Cup, if you see the players they have, placement that is obsessed with Idol in the past, no longer a guarantee for the current soccer style, because the progress of football is far more developed for now, almost all countries have potential stars

Yes, you're right, but Argentina still has Messi and I think that a player as complete as he is is very lucky, at least he has the DiMaria and Dybala noodles who, when they serve separately, are stars who are in very good shape, the others players only have to complement them, but in terms of stars I don't see it as bad. And if they get a good coach where they can mesh each skill of these players well, they could easily reach a cup final and win it, in fact this is the last chance Messi has to do it.
Messi has also been included in the category of old players, even though he is still fit enough to play at any level, but talking age football can also affect the quality of a player, so many European players take pesiun steps at that age, of course Dybala and Dimaria are figures important in the Argentina squad, but believe their age is no longer so productive, and the opportunity to become champions I think it's hard for Argentina
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Messi will be playing his best for this world cup as it's probably going to his last opportunity to grab this cup for Argentina.
A similar story appears with Cristiano Ronaldo, for Portugal.
Both are excellent players but both have failed to win the world cup for their country. This is their chance.
A Portugal Argentina final would be incredible.
There is no doubt both legendary players are capable of doing challenging things for their countries but for me still both are not going to win this world cup because we need a perfect team unit to win this mega event and both are having serious flaws in their teams which are not going to help them for having any better chance.
I never thought final could be happened between these two teams because of me most chances Portugal is not going to reach into last four and Argentina can reach but with most chances for few European teams because they are having much better squads and depth in their teams, so they can do much better than them as well.

We all know that a Portugal versus Argentina final is not going to happen. There are many better teams like France, Croatia, Germany, England, and a few others that seem to be very successful. So among all these teams, a final between Argentina and Portugal seems to be really not realistic. But it would be awesome to see a final like that.
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Messi will be playing his best for this world cup as it's probably going to his last opportunity to grab this cup for Argentina.

A similar story appears with Cristiano Ronaldo, for Portugal.

Both are excellent players but both have failed to win the world cup for their country. This is their chance.

A Portugal Argentina final would be incredible.
There is no doubt both legendary players are capable of doing challenging things for their countries but for me still both are not going to win this world cup because we need a perfect team unit to win this mega event and both are having serious flaws in their teams which are not going to help them for having any better chance.

I never thought final could be happened between these two teams because of me most chances Portugal is not going to reach into last four and Argentina can reach but with most chances for few European teams because they are having much better squads and depth in their teams, so they can do much better than them as well.
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I would say France has the most star players in this World Cup. But in Euro, we have not seen a better performance than France. Moreover, the performance of France in the last few matches was weak. On the other hand, Spain has a lot of talented players, but they are not experienced enough. And so to me, the squads of Brazil and Argentina seem the most stable and strong. Because there is continuity in the performances of these two teams, which I do not see in the performances of France or Spain.

Surprised that you have mentioned Argentina. I have checked their recent record, and honestly, I couldn't find any consistency. One good thing with Argentina is that whatever issues they had with team bonding seems to have got resolved. There was always an argument that Lionel Messi performs better with Barcelona (and now with Paris Saint-Germain), when compared to the Argentine national team. With Brazil, I have never heard about any such issues. Their team bonding seems to be perfect.
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Argentine players do not have enough stars to now, they rely more on Messi to play, while soccer games have developed enough for now, Europe has a much greater potential for the future World Cup, if you see the players they have, placement that is obsessed with Idol in the past, no longer a guarantee for the current soccer style, because the progress of football is far more developed for now, almost all countries have potential stars
What happens is that soccer like any sport is always evolving, when Argentina won the world cup in 1986 they depended almost exclusively on Maradona to accomplish that goal, of course they also had some other good players but they were nowhere near the level of Maradona, and now we are seeing they have been using the same formula and they have tried to win it all with Messi, however soccer has evolved and unless you can field a very good team around a star then the chances of winning the world cup are not very high, especially now that Messi is not as good as he once was.
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Messi will be playing his best for this world cup as it's probably going to his last opportunity to grab this cup for Argentina.

A similar story appears with Cristiano Ronaldo, for Portugal.

Both are excellent players but both have failed to win the world cup for their country. This is their chance.

A Portugal Argentina final would be incredible.
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England will have to play a lot better to become world champions. It may not say everything, but they lost 0-4 at home to Hungary last in the Nations League? I don't see countries like Brazil and France doing that anytime soon. And then also at home. I think England made a bad and strange choice with the appointment of Southgate as coach. Little experience and no big club trained. England is not just a country to coach. They should have asked someone else. Would Ferguson not be interested? I think this World Cup is going to be a huge disappointment for England.

I think, England coach has a lot of work to do to bring the team back  again by increasing their performance in this world cup. England fans was not happy about the poor performance they experienced during the nation league, that is causing their country fear if they will be able to perform well in the world cup competition. I believe England will definitely improve higher in world cup competition, because their coach is well prepared to introduce more tactics that will help the team to achieve victory through out the tournament.
Well, England is a team that can look bad on some occasions, I think that every team goes through moments like these, but looking at it from another point of view, in the World Cup all the teams grow, there is no place to falter, the technical director can look very bad with a scoreboard at that time, but I'm sure there will be better ways to face a World Cup, the English players they have are very good, they need to engage all that talent and look for the best strategy, by now they should be By studying each team, at least the one in your group, you could get an idea of what and how they can face them.

I also don’t know why everyone is so obsessed with Argentina and Brazil. There are other teams in South America. But I do have high hopes from both Argentina and Brazil in this World Cup. You know that this was the last World Cup for both Messi and Neymar. So, I am hoping to see something special from both of these teams.

I think the placement of the word obsessed is not right but rather is a fan.  
There are many football legends from Argentina and I am one of those who idolized Argentina from the era of Maradona, Ortega, Batistuta, Pablo Aimar, Tevez, Aguero until the Messi era. would be complete if messi can bring the world cup trophy with the end of his career in international matches.  However, the European continent also has many excellent teams that have the potential to win the title of world champion. I think Germany, France is a superior team that has the potential to enter the semi-finals.
Argentine players do not have enough stars to now, they rely more on Messi to play, while soccer games have developed enough for now, Europe has a much greater potential for the future World Cup, if you see the players they have, placement that is obsessed with Idol in the past, no longer a guarantee for the current soccer style, because the progress of football is far more developed for now, almost all countries have potential stars

Yes, you're right, but Argentina still has Messi and I think that a player as complete as he is is very lucky, at least he has the DiMaria and Dybala noodles who, when they serve separately, are stars who are in very good shape, the others players only have to complement them, but in terms of stars I don't see it as bad. And if they get a good coach where they can mesh each skill of these players well, they could easily reach a cup final and win it, in fact this is the last chance Messi has to do it.
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need to be underlined I'm not saying idols in the past will be the same as the style of modern football players as it is today. 

I said, I idolized some Argentinian stars from time to time. i agree that argentina doesn't have many stars but you have to remember there are a lot of argentina players who play in the european league, the european continent has much greater potential it can be justified seeing the development of european football is more complex than latin america, but we will find out after the world cup begins. 
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