2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 75.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 06, 2022, 01:04:47 AM

I definitely don't agree with you when you claim that the opponents Brazil and Argentina face within their confederation may not be as strong as the ones Netherlands and Germany face within theirs. Who is the weakest team in CONMEBOL? Maybe Bolivia or Venezuela? Even these teams are capable of defeating Germany or France on their day. On the other hand, who are the weakest teams in UEFA? That honor may go to small teams such as Gibraltar and Andorra. Can these teams defeat Brazil or Argentina? Such a scenario is not possible even in the wildest dreams.

I think I'm making a slightly unbalanced comparison.
You cannot compare Andorra/Gibraltar to Venezuela. Only the number of players available to play for Andorra/Gibraltar is insignificant compared to Venezuela.

Of course, Brazil had more difficult games than Germany. But it wasn't because there are weaker teams in Europe. Germany was lucky enough to be in a very accessible qualifying group.

We have an Italy that doesn't go to the World Cup, and we had a Portugal that had to play in the playoffs.

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Brazil has an excellent team and the best players in the world play there. There is not a single player who has a slightly less level. Neymar will want to live up to expectations one day. Although the golden opportunity seemed in 2014 but then they got a beating from Germany in the semi final I can remember. Brazil will go far, but whether they become world champions depends on the form of the players. They lost to Belgium 4 years ago, but that team has not been able to live up to the high expectations in recent years. The big absentee is of course Italy at the World Cup. Although they still hope to be admitted.

Yeah, I think Brazil will end up in the final in this world cup. It's just such a good team. As you said, every player has a high level, there's no one that plays bad in there. Even on the bench, all players are top class.

In my mind Brazil will at a bare minimum will get to the semi finals, along with Argentina, Germany, and Spain.

No matter who says what, I still think that their midfield is not as amazing as people think. Yes, they have two amazing out of this world level goalkeepers, and yes their defense is not bad, and yes their offensive line is world class, all these are fine and it would be great if they had a great midfield.

But, I believe that their midfield is not good enough and they would have to work towards playing from the wings constantly, and teams could put emphasis on the wings and could stop them and ignore the midfield a bit. This is why I believe it's easy to build a strategy that would stop them, and that is why I do not think that they would play that well.

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Quote from: W Jr. on July 05, 2022, 10:23:06 PM

Among the European teams, the Netherlands is at a very high level in my opinion. It plays well in France and Spain. I know that Argentina and Brazil are the best teams in Latin America, but the teams they face may not be as strong as the European teams. That's why Brazil and Argentina are strong but very favourites. So they can experience the same thing again.

I definitely don't agree with you when you claim that the opponents Brazil and Argentina face within their confederation may not be as strong as the ones Netherlands and Germany face within theirs. Who is the weakest team in CONMEBOL? Maybe Bolivia or Venezuela? Even these teams are capable of defeating Germany or France on their day. On the other hand, who are the weakest teams in UEFA? That honor may go to small teams such as Gibraltar and Andorra. Can these teams defeat Brazil or Argentina? Such a scenario is not possible even in the wildest dreams.

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Brazil has an excellent team and the best players in the world play there. There is not a single player who has a slightly less level. Neymar will want to live up to expectations one day. Although the golden opportunity seemed in 2014 but then they got a beating from Germany in the semi final I can remember. Brazil will go far, but whether they become world champions depends on the form of the players. They lost to Belgium 4 years ago, but that team has not been able to live up to the high expectations in recent years. The big absentee is of course Italy at the World Cup. Although they still hope to be admitted.

I think, Brazil will not allow what happened in 2014 to repeat itself again in this season because Germany defeated them in semi final that made them not to achieve 2014 world cup title. Brazil players are very ready to defeat all the strong teams in this competition because they have promised their coach to achieve victory from all the remaining matches in this tournament. I believe, Brazil coach has learned from their passed mistakes never to bench the players that know how to achieve early goals from any competition.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 05, 2022, 09:55:19 PM

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Yeah, I think Brazil will end up in the final in this world cup. It's just such a good team. As you said, every player has a high level, there's no one that plays bad in there. Even on the bench, all players are top class.

In my mind Brazil will at a bare minimum will get to the semi finals, along with Argentina, Germany, and Spain.

Last time, Brazil couldn't qualify for the semi-finals. They got defeated by Belgium during the Quarter-finals. But I am sure that this time they will be able to perform in a better way. The European teams are not looking in good shape at this point, and their own Latin American rivals (Argentina) doesn't seems to be in peak form. At present, Brazil has one of the most balanced teams and as usual they have good team bonding. The climate of Qatar should also suit Brazil, unlike the case they had in 2018 (Russia).

Among the European teams, the Netherlands is at a very high level in my opinion. It plays well in France and Spain. I know that Argentina and Brazil are the best teams in Latin America, but the teams they face may not be as strong as the European teams. That's why Brazil and Argentina are strong but very favourites. So they can experience the same thing again.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 05, 2022, 09:55:19 PM

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Last time, Brazil couldn't qualify for the semi-finals. They got defeated by Belgium during the Quarter-finals. But I am sure that this time they will be able to perform in a better way. The European teams are not looking in good shape at this point, and their own Latin American rivals (Argentina) doesn't seems to be in peak form. At present, Brazil has one of the most balanced teams and as usual they have good team bonding. The climate of Qatar should also suit Brazil, unlike the case they had in 2018 (Russia).

You're right.

I haven't thought about the weather, but you're right. Brazilian players will be a bit more comfortable in that kind of weather.

But on the other hand, the cultural aspects of Qatar are very different to Brazil, so not sure how the players will be in their minds outside of the field. Although in theory they should just be professional about it and it shouldn't matter.

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Quote from: nullama on July 05, 2022, 07:13:43 PM

Yeah, I think Brazil will end up in the final in this world cup. It's just such a good team. As you said, every player has a high level, there's no one that plays bad in there. Even on the bench, all players are top class.

In my mind Brazil will at a bare minimum will get to the semi finals, along with Argentina, Germany, and Spain.

Last time, Brazil couldn't qualify for the semi-finals. They got defeated by Belgium during the Quarter-finals. But I am sure that this time they will be able to perform in a better way. The European teams are not looking in good shape at this point, and their own Latin American rivals (Argentina) doesn't seems to be in peak form. At present, Brazil has one of the most balanced teams and as usual they have good team bonding. The climate of Qatar should also suit Brazil, unlike the case they had in 2018 (Russia).

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Brazil has an excellent team and the best players in the world play there. There is not a single player who has a slightly less level. Neymar will want to live up to expectations one day. Although the golden opportunity seemed in 2014 but then they got a beating from Germany in the semi final I can remember. Brazil will go far, but whether they become world champions depends on the form of the players. They lost to Belgium 4 years ago, but that team has not been able to live up to the high expectations in recent years. The big absentee is of course Italy at the World Cup. Although they still hope to be admitted.

Yeah, I think Brazil will end up in the final in this world cup. It's just such a good team. As you said, every player has a high level, there's no one that plays bad in there. Even on the bench, all players are top class.

In my mind Brazil will at a bare minimum will get to the semi finals, along with Argentina, Germany, and Spain.

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Brazil has an excellent team and the best players in the world play there. There is not a single player who has a slightly less level. Neymar will want to live up to expectations one day. Although the golden opportunity seemed in 2014 but then they got a beating from Germany in the semi final I can remember. Brazil will go far, but whether they become world champions depends on the form of the players. They lost to Belgium 4 years ago, but that team has not been able to live up to the high expectations in recent years. The big absentee is of course Italy at the World Cup. Although they still hope to be admitted.

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I don't think Brasil is the biggest favorite for this tournament but they are always in the discussion. They used to have more powerful squad but now they are mid team at best. Neymar is not the ideal leader, they are far away from real Ronaldo and then Ronaldinho era.
England never had an achievement for years, they always say maybe this time but it never happens. I'll probably stick with Argentina this time as I want Messi to finally lift the trophy before he retires.

Wishful thinking Wink

For all his shortcomings, Neymar is clearly a better leader than Messi, and Brazil is clearly a stronger team than Argentina. I do not think that Brazil will become champions (one of the European teams should become). As for England, I would say that they are in the position of Spain before they made the treble (two European Championships + World Cup in a row), I don’t know if they will be lucky this time, but the possibility of this cannot be ruled out.

I am not agreed with you about this here Neymar is never been better than Messi because he is mostly having issues which injuries and never give his best for Brazil he is far from Ronaldo and his other top ranked leaders with this all I am still positive about them in this world cup, but I am feeling Argentina is also having fair chance for this event because they are also in the best shape and their few players are capable to give their best in this event.

After having these two I am going with two European teams which are Germany and France because these two also performing consistently and having few quality players which are able to perform in this mega event no other team is near them, but upsets can happen which already have in past many times.

I don’t agree that Neymar is a better leader compared to Messi. But yes, I have to agree that Brazil is obviously stronger than Argentina.

If we are talking about winning the World Cup I don’t think Brazil or Argentina any of them are going to win the World Cup. The best chance of winning the World Cup is with France in my opinion. They have a squad that was absolutely stacked in the last World Cup as well and this time they have a similar type of squad if not better. So, I still think that Francis is the team that is going to take the World Cup home.

The Brazilian national team has kept a good form from their last competitive outing, same as Argentina. These teams are my favourites to win this world cup. England has a very good team but I don't see them winning the world cup this year, they don't posess a winning mentality and that chemistry when they play as a team. They always tend to loose focus along the way and it has always cost them the trophy.

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Quote from: 3meek on July 05, 2022, 01:27:15 PM

Recently remembered the 2014 World Cup, which was in Brazil... At that time, many people also assumed that the hosts would be the champions... But they were seriously disappointed when Germany humiliated Brazil with a dreadful score of 7-1 and became world champions... You can't rule out something like that this year...

World cup win by host country is now not easy because most of the time host country has double pressure, so they mostly can't perform as they need to do as we already watch in last world cup where Germany ruined Brazil.

But, now here situation is completely different with Qatar is neutral country, and we have few tough teams from South America and Europe with this all both continents have equal chance with recently we watch world cup events dominant by Europeans because now they are improving quality and having some better technique which is helping them and on other side South Americans having trouble their natural talented players are unable to perform, and they are losing ground very badly hopefully in this world cup we will have some better results from them.

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Quote from: harapan on July 05, 2022, 04:12:49 PM

The Brazilians always have the best chance when they come to the world Cup.
But since when did they win the World Cup. They had a very embarrassing performance during that year Germany won the World Cup, as they trashed Brazil a total of many more goal.
Vini Junior is the latest hot boy in town also Antony, these young players have a whole lotta talent to show. So yes Brazil wins the World Cup.

Brazil has to give its best performance to win the world cup. Football is changing now. When it was a technical sport, Brazil's championship was guaranteed, but now discipline, team play, physical strength and intelligence are required at a high level along with technique in football. That's why I can say that every team has an equal chance.

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Recently remembered the 2014 World Cup, which was in Brazil... At that time, many people also assumed that the hosts would be the champions... But they were seriously disappointed when Germany humiliated Brazil with a dreadful score of 7-1 and became world champions... You can't rule out something like that this year...

Football lovers will never forget the humiliation that Brazil suffered in the hands of Germany that faithful day. Everyone expected Brazil to win the game because they were playing in front of their fans and being the host country, a lot of people believed that they will have an advantage over their opponent Germany. This year we are expecting to see another beautiful experience and football lovers have been predicting the country that will be crowned the winner already.

I believe the time is not far again and we will see the country that will do the unimaginable despite not being rated as the favorite to win the world cup. So many people are predicting Brazil, Germany, and England as the favorite in the tournament but let's see what will happend at the end.

Of course I still remember the humilation and I try to see myself in the positions of the Brazilian fans and want to feel what they felt that faithful day because I remember vividly the shock and disappointment on their faces. That will be trauma for the next victim in this world cup. In my opinion France, portugal, Brazil and Argentina are favourites to win the world cup.

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Quote from: 3meek on July 05, 2022, 06:33:48 AM

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Yeah, I agree.

That's insane, I would always put Brazil as the winner against England. There's just no way England can win against them.

I also still remember the "Hand of God" of Maradona in England vs Argentina.

I just think England doesn't get good results against South American teams.

The World Cup hasn't even started yet... I'm sure the favourites may change after the group stage... There is no doubt that Brazil is a really good contender... But instead of England, it could easily be France, Belgium or Germany... No one can understand why the bookies are favouring England when they are not playing any better than the other top teams...

We must remember that the odds are not set just by the casinos themselves, odds are also affected by the decisions of the gamblers themselves, and we know that in England gambling is very popular especially when it comes to soccer, so I would not be surprised to discover that what it is happening is that England fans are betting a lot of money on their national team to win the world cup, and as such casinos had to adjust the odds of England winning in order to balance their books.

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It may seem strange that England gets such odds from the bookmakers, but that story has 2 sides. On the one hand, England have achieved absolutely nothing in the last 30 years while having the best competition in the world. And all/most top players play in the English league anyway. Just look at teams like City and Liverpool, and also United and Chelsea. Still, the chemistry isn't there when they play as a team. Last year they were almost European champions, but they have not shown more in recent years.

It is hard to compare the level of a national league with the quality of its national team. EPL is the best league in the world but many top players are foreigners.
City have them 2x more than English players. Same goes for Liverpool and Chelsea... with brilliant players being foreigners.
Besides, you can have many top players but you cannot make them play coherently as a solid team which will turn to be a total failure.

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The Brazilians always have the best chance when they come to the world Cup.
But since when did they win the World Cup. They had a very embarrassing performance during that year Germany won the World Cup, as they trashed Brazil a total of many more goal.
Vini Junior is the latest hot boy in town also Antony, these young players have a whole lotta talent to show. So yes Brazil wins the World Cup.

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Recently remembered the 2014 World Cup, which was in Brazil... At that time, many people also assumed that the hosts would be the champions... But they were seriously disappointed when Germany humiliated Brazil with a dreadful score of 7-1 and became world champions... You can't rule out something like that this year...

Many teams are fully prepared for this tournament because every teams want to make their country happy by achieving the world cup title from this season. Brazil will not joke with this season competition because their coach will not miss it this season than to select the potential players that can handle their position very well to see they achieve victory from all the matches to embrace the title.

Although Brazil's squad quality is very good, they will also have very strong rivals such as Argentina, France and Germany. One of these teams or another team with no favorites can win this cup, it depends entirely on the action in that tournament. Maybe the teams that are shown as the favorite can not even pass the group, maybe they will take part in the final. We do not know these. I just know that we are very lucky to have such good teams in the world cup.

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Recently remembered the 2014 World Cup, which was in Brazil... At that time, many people also assumed that the hosts would be the champions... But they were seriously disappointed when Germany humiliated Brazil with a dreadful score of 7-1 and became world champions... You can't rule out something like that this year...

Many teams are fully prepared for this tournament because every teams want to make their country happy by achieving the world cup title from this season. Brazil will not joke with this season competition because their coach will not miss it this season than to select the potential players that can handle their position very well to see they achieve victory from all the matches to embrace the title.

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Quote from: 3meek on July 05, 2022, 06:33:48 AM

The World Cup hasn't even started yet... I'm sure the favourites may change after the group stage... There is no doubt that Brazil is a really good contender... But instead of England, it could easily be France, Belgium or Germany... No one can understand why the bookies are favouring England when they are not playing any better than the other top teams...

They may look at it from one side to the other, especially now that English players can also be said to be quality players and their talent is quite young, which makes them a little underdog.
Moreover, their league is also competitive and English players play a lot there which makes bookies quite like them although I still feel this is actually still very risky.

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Quote from: 3meek on July 05, 2022, 01:27:15 PM

Recently remembered the 2014 World Cup, which was in Brazil... At that time, many people also assumed that the hosts would be the champions... But they were seriously disappointed when Germany humiliated Brazil with a dreadful score of 7-1 and became world champions... You can't rule out something like that this year...

Football lovers will never forget the humiliation that Brazil suffered in the hands of Germany that faithful day. Everyone expected Brazil to win the game because they were playing in front of their fans and being the host country, a lot of people believed that they will have an advantage over their opponent Germany. This year we are expecting to see another beautiful experience and football lovers have been predicting the country that will be crowned the winner already.

I believe the time is not far again and we will see the country that will do the unimaginable despite not being rated as the favorite to win the world cup. So many people are predicting Brazil, Germany, and England as the favorite in the tournament but let's see what will happend at the end.

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