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Quote from: LeGaulois on December 04, 2023, 11:54:49 AM

With the change that has been announced, I'm going to have to give up the topic I guess.

As long as the new rules relating to Mixers are not yet clearly defined, I would wait and see how this thread is then to be organised.
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Quote from: JohnBitCo on November 09, 2023, 07:34:17 PM

Does this only 0.4% fee makes the Tumblers, the most cheapest and yet most effective mixer that can be used by an average person ?
As i see the reviews in the review campaign were satisfactory.

The cheapest - no, one of the most effective - yes. I've seen cheaper mixers in terms of fees, but they don't have as much functionality as [banned mixer].

The cheapest commissions are from https://anonymix.io/:

Tried anonymix,io with small amount, not sure what min mixing amount is? Did not get any BTC, neither a letter of guarantee. Is it a scam?

Btw, no tumblers that accept BTC lightning payments? Or does that reverse the benefits.

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(Sinbad removed from the list)

With the change that has been announced, I'm going to have to give up the topic I guess.
If it's OK to discuss mixers generally speaking, if we can't give links, directories, or "google 1234mixer.com", I don't see the purpose or how it can be done differently.

Unless the admin makes this difference (see his post)
- You don't directly post their URLs.

I will have to remove : clearnet/onion links and threads
Better than nothing.

If I post: ⭐Name: abcdef.io, people just have to open a new tab and type the name in the search bar.
If they're interested to get the onion link, then it's always displayed on the clearnet website.

It's similar to this case pointed to him

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How about Scams Bitcoin Mixers List and Services closed:

Since that doesn't have any real links to mixers, it may be OK. Probably we'll leave it alone at the start and see how it looks after a few months.

It doesn't have any real links to mixers

"Probably we'll leave it alone at the start and see how it looks after a few months."

I don't notice how it can look differently after a few months

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Quote from: LeGaulois on December 01, 2023, 01:49:52 PM

Quote from: NotATether on November 30, 2023, 11:25:26 PM

@LeGaulois
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Thanks, I didn't know the guy is banned. I was just aware yesterday the clearnet has been seized.
I will remove it from the list, but I see my original post has been edited somehow with
"🔹Tor link: [directing people to darknet sites is not allowed].onion"

and it doesn't come from me
Last edit: 18 november by LeGaulois
I couldn't guess the seizure

That's because the onion link was filtered out by forum software since yesterday.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 30, 2023, 11:25:26 PM

@LeGaulois
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Thanks, I didn't know the guy is banned. I was just aware yesterday the clearnet has been seized.
I will remove it from the list, but I see my original post has been edited somehow with
"🔹Tor link: [directing people to darknet sites is not allowed].onion"

and it doesn't come from me
Last edit: 18 november by LeGaulois
I couldn't guess the seizure

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Sinbad.io is seized by authorities and also is banned from Bitcointalk, using it now will get you in big trouble with the feds, so you should remove it from the list for users' own safety.

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LeGaulois, you can update the first post, sadly two of the cheaper mixers have decided to raise the fees for their services.
Sinbad.io and [banned mixer] have changes in the fixed fee per address. From the previous +0.0002 BTC, now it is +0.0003 BTC.

Quote from: LeGaulois on January 26, 2018, 07:22:20 AM

⭐Name: Sinbad.io
🔹Clearnet link: https://sinbad.io/en
🔹Tor link: [directing people to darknet sites is not allowed].onion
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Fees: 0.5-2.5% + 0.0005 BTC
🔹Minimum amount: 0.0015 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

Quote from: LeGaulois on January 26, 2018, 07:22:20 AM

⭐Name: [banned mixer]
🔹Clearnet link: https://[banned mixer]
🔹Tor link: [banned mixer]
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Fees: from 0.4% to 5% + 0.0002 BTC (Discount on fees from 10% to 50% for returning customers)
🔹Minimum amount: 0.001
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on November 09, 2023, 07:34:17 PM

Does this only 0.4% fee makes the Tumblers, the most cheapest and yet most effective mixer that can be used by an average person ?

As i see the reviews in the review campaign were satisfactory.

From the OP, the transaction fees are easily comparable, go there and compare the listed mixers.

I was one of the people that first review the site before some corrections were made, it is a good mixer. If you use the mixer ones, you will also get fee discount if you use your tumbler code the next time you want to make use of the mixer.

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LeGaulois, where did you get such data on the [banned mixer] mixer?

Quote from: LeGaulois on January 26, 2018, 07:22:20 AM

⭐Name: [banned mixer]
🔹Fees: from 0.2% to 0.4% + 0.0002 BTC

There, the service commission ranges from 0.4% to 5%:

0.2% can only go to those who were given a tumbler-code with a 50% discount, that is, the winners of various competitions that were held on this forum. For all, the minimum level is 0.4%.

Does this only 0.4% fee makes the Tumblers, the most cheapest and yet most effective mixer that can be used by an average person ?

As i see the reviews in the review campaign were satisfactory.

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LeGaulois, where did you get such data on the [banned mixer] mixer?

From my PM
But I have apparently misunderstood something

Since it's still possible to get a discount on the 0.4%, perhaps editing with:
🔹Fees: from 0.4% to 5% + 0.0002 BTC (Discount from 10% to 50% for returning customers)

is a more accurate description

Quote from: Charles-Tim on October 25, 2023, 03:14:29 AM

Going to update it now
TYVM

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Quote from: examplens on October 25, 2023, 04:48:27 AM

But there is still a possibility to get a discount on the basic 0.4%, so this information is correct.
Maybe LeGaulois can add some kind of footnote for such cases. Just enough for users to be informed that it is necessary to fulfil certain criteria for the lowest fee.

If edited and replaced with something like 'first time fee' and below it, 'discount fee' will be good. It will be good because if someone uses the mixer for the first time, the person would be given tumbler code which he can use next time for mixing in a way he would be charged just the discount fee.

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For 99.999% of mixer users, these commissions are not available, since such transactions are rare.

But there is still a possibility to get a discount on the basic 0.4%, so this information is correct.
Maybe LeGaulois can add some kind of footnote for such cases. Just enough for users to be informed that it is necessary to fulfil certain criteria for the lowest fee.

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This reminds me of the ads on TV that show prices and then find out that in order to get that value, the buyer has to meet a lot of conditions.

I totally agree with you on this, I'm not a fan of "up to" offers.

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0.2% can only go to those who were given a tumbler-code with a 50% discount, that is, the winners of various competitions that were held on this forum. For all, the minimum level is 0.4%.

Low fees, i.e. discounts up to 50%, not exclusively as a reward for forum users it is available to everyone under certain conditions. Additional discounts can be obtained depending on the total amount you mix through the service.

Here are the tables https://[banned mixer]/fee

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Quote from: LeGaulois on January 26, 2018, 07:22:20 AM

⭐Name: [banned mixer]
Fees: from 0.2 to 2.4% + 0.0005 BTC + the network fees

The current Mixero fee which I have been seen since I joined their campaign is different.

The fee is 0.7% to 4.7% + 0.0003 BTC + the network fees

For advanced (monero bridge): 1.9%

I believe people that are using a mixer will be able to know that going for the lowest fee and delaying time is the best for privacy. Although not to be too delayed.

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Quote from: DepingCD on September 27, 2023, 07:53:31 AM

Which mixer is the most reliable and trusted now? If I had to mix large amount what would be the best choice?

Decentralized options are safest option especially for larger amount of coins, something like original Coinjoin is good, or even better option is Joinmarket, but it's a bit more complicated to use.
You need to run your own bitcoin node, there is no central coordinator, no central point of failure, and everything is free.
Maybe you should start by researching jamapp.org website for modern Joinmarket interface.

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Quote from: examplens on September 27, 2023, 08:28:42 AM

When I was choosing the signature campaign, after checking most of the mixers, I chose Sinbad as the most reliable. I am still of that opinion, although certainly, the others currently active deserve respect for now.

Why choosing Sinbad as the most reliable that other do not have? Although, I do recommend Sinbad as well.

I will choose coinjoin mixers on noncustodial wallet as the most reliable. I mean those like Whirlpool on Sparrow and Samourai wallet or the Jointmarket if running your own node. I choose them because they are decentralized.

Although, if using the centralized mixer onion link on Tor browser, they are good too. One of the mixers that I have reviewed before even before I join their signature campaign is mixero. Mixero even has conversion from bitcoin to monero and back to bitcoin, or receiving bitcoin and sending mixed coin, depending on how the person that want to mix wants it.

But other mixers on LeGaulois (OP) posts are good. But the best advice is for anyone that wants to mix huge amount of bitcoin is not to send it at ones, but mix it one after the other. There is nothing bad to also use the process of using different mixers to explore which one will be the best for him that he will use next time.

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Quote from: DepingCD on September 27, 2023, 07:53:31 AM

Which mixer is the most reliable and trusted now? If I had to mix large amount what would be the best choice?

If you ever decide to mix a larger amount, no matter which mixer you choose, I suggest you do it in several transactions. I am absolutely a supporter of not putting all your eggs in one basket.

Quote from: LeGaulois on September 27, 2023, 08:15:02 AM

The one advertised on my profile Tongue

To give an answer, difficult to choose who's the best, it depends on your needs too. All I can say is [banned mixer], [banned mixer], [banned mixer], Coinnomize.biz are the oldest mixers around with tracking records. Of course, to be a new mixer doesn't mean to be a bad one. After all, every business starts from zero, every business deserves a chance.

When I was choosing the signature campaign, after checking most of the mixers, I chose Sinbad as the most reliable. I am still of that opinion, although certainly, the others currently active deserve respect for now.

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Quote from: DepingCD on September 27, 2023, 07:53:31 AM

Which mixer is the most reliable and trusted now? If I had to mix large amount what would be the best choice?

The one advertised on my profile Tongue

To give an answer, difficult to choose who's the best, it depends on your needs too. All I can say is [banned mixer], [banned mixer], [banned mixer], Coinnomize.biz are the oldest mixers around with tracking records. Of course, to be a new mixer doesn't mean to be a bad one. After all, every business starts from zero, every business deserves a chance.

For a large amount, I would probably use more than one mixer, but for sure I wouldn't send a large amount in 1 shot.

(note: you can get a free trial with [banned mixer] @ https://[banned mixer]/?mix=free)
(note: Don't trust blogs reviews, YT videos and so on)

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Quote from: DepingCD on September 27, 2023, 07:53:31 AM

Which mixer is the most reliable and trusted now? If I had to mix large amount what would be the best choice?

Go to the OP and choose the one that is (or the ones) that are best for you. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2023-list-bitcoin-mixers-bitcoin-tumblers-websites-2827109

Advice:
You do not necessarily have to use a single mixer for mixing all your coins. You can divide the coin and use different mixers for it. Or divide it and use the same mixer to mix it one after the other.

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