Topic: 2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets! - page 11. (Read 2461 times)

It's quite interesting what this does to American politics, the fact that they want to see Trump in a bad light because these things can give him bad propaganda, but if this doesn't work for the opposing political party, why do they do it? ?because they fall into the same mistakes that politicians always make, a political contender should not fear what the other Candidate does, if he is Very sure of his political campaign he should not spend money, energy and so on, in that case it is what they What they should do is manage their campaigns well, without playing dirty or taking advantage of the fact that they exercise power. If Trump wins later, the first thing he will do is take revenge when he becomes president, then that will be a war between politicians and that is actually the Worst thing that the United States becomes politicized.

Well. Then according to your expectations, Trump is going to inevitably win the presidential election this year. Since, if I recall correctly, the Supreme court of the USA has already ruled Trump cannot be disqualified from running in States which choose to exclude him because of his alledged participation in an insurrection some years ago.
I assume you are pretty much aware how indictments do not seem to affect his popularity among the voting base, so I agree it is likely any of his legal problems will be politically costly in the short term.
Actually, support for him continued to accumulated as he continued to be indicted both federally within state levels.

Also, I believe some candidate like Nikki Haley would still try to address the problem in the southern border of the USA, it is a policy of the Republican party and she is that of that party.
Unless you are a believer if the theory of the Uniparty.

^^^It is quite clear that the only chance to prevent Trump from becoming the next President of the United States is to disqualify him from running for that post. Democrat establishment hopes that they can get someone like Nikki Haley or Lisa Murkowski as the Republican nominee, who will offer an easier competition to Joe Biden. Also, they can also hope that even if the GOP candidate wins the election, he/she will be less hawkish on issues such as immigration and support for Ukraine in Russo-Ukrainian war.

Last night I have learnt the State of Arizona has formally indicted important members of Donald Trump inner circle when he worked as President of the United States. Bit only that, it seems the State of Arizona has also chosen to indict around a dozen of people who posed as fake electors, in a scheme which was alledgely keep as a plan to overturn the presidential election of USA, back in 2020.
Trump himself seems to be listed in the indictment as an unindicted co-conspirator, do he won't be prosecuted for now. My guess is procesutors  plan to flip all alledged conspirators against Trump before indict him directly in the State of Arizona.

Regardless on this lastest development, it is very unlikely this will affect Trump odds and his popularity among the average Republican voter, it has been already proven they do not care about those indictments.
Though, we must keep in mind this is an state level criminal trial, which means Trump would not be able to pardon himself in the case of winning the president this year.

It is a fact that if Trump fails to win he will look for a Way to Silence tik tok, or something he should do, however he is a person who is always Looking for something to do to Be able to establish what he wants, or what he says, if Trump He comes out well free of all this that they are accusing him of and if he becomes president, I would like to imagine the persecution that I will see them do to the judges and all these types of things that bother him. , because he is practically one of the people who have been bothering him the most, many politicians will have to look for Another country to leave, because everything they have done to him it is impossible for him not to want to seek revenge, they are waking up a possible sleeping Lion, if it comes it comes to power , the first thing he will do is take revenge, without a Doubt I still see it from that Point of view.

I guess that this is because casinos have to win some money too, but in these cases it is a little bit too obvious that the odds are on their side

In occasions like this one many people will bet irrationally for their favorite candidates, even if they are not the only two ones who have real chances of winning, so why would they waste the opportunity?

Over here in my country, alot of people are rooting for Trump to win, and to be honest, if actually I was or decided to bet on the USA presidential election, I think I will have to bet on Trump.
But then, another thing is, the odds on Trump winning doesn't look so attractive for me to want to bet on him, and also, several cases in court concerning Trump may as well trample his chances of becoming the next president of the United States of America, so, based on this, I likely may decide to bet on Biden rather.

Let me just be plain and be honest as well, I will be totally confused 😕 if I was to decide to bet on one of this candidates, it's really tough to decide or choose which one to bet on, as I personally believe that both Trump and Biden have good chances of winning, every other candidate on that list are possibly just catching cruz, the battle is between Trump and Biden.

I feel like them man who supports and back Joe Biden are fauckin twats, because how do you support a recalcitrant and stiff-necked president who cares and put other countries before his nation, how? They'd say Trump is traitor and lies too much but I don't know the details. Honestly, I don't really care about them and their politics.

They preach and talk about democracy and shii but never supports it. Everyday I wonder who made them the police of this world because I don't like how they have handled matters especially if it doesn't benefits them.

Why would Joe Biden keep on funding Ukraine, Taiwan and also Isreal, when all these fund should be used to boost the falling economy? Why has he been so stubborn? The world needs peace amd not war. Like I said, I no longer care  or gives double fvcks, I wish them all the best with their various affairs. They was quick to call Putin a war criminal but hasn't done shit with the President of Isreal? Killing kids? It's laughable.

To which most politicians are not so different after all. Whether a Dem or Rep, they are all still part of the same group that has the same enemy.  Trump is a businessman though and he has to balance not upsetting his donors that's why it may be his idea to offer to buy Tiktok first or else ban it.

Whoever wins the election still has no real freedom to do things really because of the donors who have control over the politicians.

Oh, I am sure Trump is aware on the political favors and the alliances which are necessary for him to climb onto power again.
For example, lately there is a lot of drama going on in the United States because of how it is expected Tik Tok will be banned from the USA soon, if their other company does not seem the social media to other company based in the country.

In previous years, Trump himself has been very critic on the way the social media is being handled from China and how it could represent a national threat, as it collects information of the American people and stores it in China. Recently, Trump has changed his heart and political position on TikTok being banned, and there are two main reasons for it: he recognizes the generation Z likes Tik tok and if Biden bans Tik tok, it will be beneficial for him. It was also uncovered there is a donor of Trump who seems to have a major stake on Tik tok, so he changed his opinion to please those who had keep his campaign running with donations.

That is what most of American politics is about, donators and big corporations manipulating law and the will of the people, who does not have billions in assets.

There is something that must Always be fulfilled, I have always said something , When a President stays in power for a long time, all things fall apart and that is something that should not be allowed , because a person in power is no good for him to stay so long , and for now Trump has had many problems , he has had to face trials and Many things with judges, he has seemed tired because he cannot run for president, and apparently that is the only thing that has kept him bored, I am not an American , but in political terms, I think that a Country of that caliber must have a Really Strong President , Biden has done well, he has had his mistakes , but that is normal for any human being , but if the USA needs a change or course in another direction.

Trump has been a great contender and although I don't know what will be the outcome of the election but I just needed to see someone there that would take the country to a better atmosphere. One can try luck and win the bet if what they predicted actually becomes the outcome. Sometimes it is good we try and bet on this kind of game so that we can try to make money from it but this is not going to be easy. Biden is already old and I think he needed to rest nit trying to rule the country one more time since he has been in the presidential seat as vice for so long. It is time we expect a surprising result because this is going to be difficult to predict.

Yes, it is very true, although since Trump has now gotten more involved in politics, what I imagine is that now he wants to win over his party much more, in addition to pleasing his opponents, of course politics is like that, you have to do deals and things that are not very good just to receive support and then have to pay political favors, that is something that changes the face of everything, I just intuit it, I don't know if it really happens, I'm just speculating, what happens is that in the country in which one lives, politicians risk all this to have what they want most, and once they are in power, things are done to please those who helped them and so on. The president has more support within Congress and I believe that the people take a second or perhaps a third place.

Maybe we are watching a different speeches and tweets /  but intelligence isn't the word that comes to mind. It's confidence combined with incompetence. But what i give him credit for is his conman skills. He is extremely good example of confidence trickster, like an embodiment of dunning–kruger-efekt. And he takes it to such ridiculous levels, he formed a cult. And there's nothing he has ever said that would help me believe that he was involved with the creation of the book kiyosaki wrote, except lending his name for publicity.

What makes him favorite presideltal candinate in betting, is the fact no matter what he says, his supporters believe him, and that's where he is on his best. He can talk about anything and just say that he is very best at it, and for some reason deliver it with such a confidence that people believe in him. And if someone calls him out, he just belittles them and invents insulting nicknames. Like a bully in a schoolyard, people rather stay on his good side not to get trump treatment. So in short: people believe him and people who are betting for him know this.

I respect your opinion and I would certainly agree with you about the potential Trump has to positively impact the United States, if he was a normal politician and if he was running using mainstream ideas and a mainstream campaign for it to reach the white house again.
That is what I do not like about Trump, how he has negatively transformed the Republican party into an organization which does not look like anything from the previous days of the party, then they used to debate about taxation, fiscal politics, debt , then most of the politicians in the Republican party were aware Vladimir Putin was/is a dictator and autocrat. The Republican party does not seem to be as patriotic as used to be (I am not saying the Democrat party is much better though).

I would have preferred to Nikki Haley to win the nomination of the party or even Mike Pence, even though he almost spineless when comes to facing and criticizing Trump. He has only done so lately, because he is aware his political career is likely over after drooping out the race.

Im not sure the businessman look is working to so well when they are prosecuting him for various tax and fraud charges.  Or at least that is what the courts are attempting to do.   Normally I think they would just ignore or fail to proceed with charges as prosecutors dont like to lose cases not easy to prove.   Obviously its in lieu of full charges for his supporters actions vs the senate in the democratic process, many take that disaster as the most serious thing that cannot be ignored.

I'd agree on the Trump as alternate to Biden as 50/50 if it weren't already impaired from his 2016 run where every factor came into play to make that election run work.   Apart from being an ex president he hasnt improved his chances by his record or standing with the broad breadth of the population.  His own supporters no doubt will redouble their vigorous campaign but I believe it does require more votes from the middle ground and those are eroded by all the news headlines.

Not everyone watches Fox news or any Tv news especially.  They may read the newspaper perhaps not even a national one, my point is not all share the same perspective hence the cross-section of votes varies greatly in their stance but overall I dont see an improvement or increase in depth of support except within Republican party, the middle ground will decide 2024 elections & those who dont even like either candidate.

@luckmcfly you have made credible points to the elevation of Thrump against Biden which to me are very much true even though am not an American but thanks to books I read. IMO, a key aspect that will sharply influence the choice of the American citizens looking at the position of the United States of America in the world politics, with what is going on in the different parts of the world, the Ukraine-Russia war and the recent Isreal-Iran conflict which America has shown some weakness in intervening audaciously all through this period of Biden's administration unlike in Thrump's administration  and more other previous administrations. So it's unlikely that Biden might have a second chance in this election.

I also see Donald Trump with potential, it should be noted that there is something that I admire a lot about him and that is his determination, apart from his financial education, when I read the book he wrote with Kiyosaki, they really did something masterful, some advice from people who really know Trump is very intelligent, that is what I admire most about him, apart from all this, another thing I admire is that unlike many presidents, he is not trained as a politician, he was trained to being a great manager, businessman, doing business and having a good vision of the generation, and that is something that defends him a lot, I think that the Biden era must now come to an end, many things have happened in the world, possible wars, and I know that the United States can somehow come in and Avoid certain conflicts, and this is something we all know, so I am inclined to see him win too.

With the current popularity and the noise under the Trump's name, that could be a big help for his candidacy.
Actually, it's hard to weigh in as of the moment because this two has a strong number of supporter.

Seriously, I'm thinking for a possibilities about Biden being more greedy to stay in power like taking this opportunity to declare war so he can stay in power for another term or until the war last. I don't know but I hope for a more clean election and hope that people of America will vote for who is the best in terms of their work since both candidate already served their terms and deliver a good one.

I don't have any doubt of the popularity of Donald Trump, of course. Actually, he used to be very popular even before getting involved within politics, once he got into the world of American politics his popularity increased dramatically. The degree of his popularity is such that even the legal problems he has had have little or no effect on the view people have about him.
Though, you should take a look at some polls and surveys which try to compile information about how the people of the United States views the trials Trump is going through. Because of it, I am expecting to see an inflection point in the popularity of Donald Trump if he happened to be found guilty of a felony.
If he is found to be guilty, I will probably bet against him and in favor of Joe Biden.

There is still people within the United States, who are Republican but also believe in the due process of their state and federal courts.