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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 27, 2024, 06:55:27 PM

Lol...you guys will not kill me with laughter Grin

...I can't believe you labelled Bitcoin as the decisive factor for the US election, you must be joking. The US election is not a child's play and many factors will determine it, of which Bitcoin will be the least of the factors. I guess you did not do the math well before even saying that. For the record, it's only about 21% of Americans dealing with cryptocurrency, of which many of them will not be eligible voters. This means that a drastically reduced percentage who are dealing with it are also eligible for voting. I can equally assure you that more than half of these people will not influence their votes simply because of Bitcoin. There are various alternatives to invest and make transactions for the Yankees, as such, they do not take Bitcoin to the extreme as you think, except a few.

It's hard to argue with that, but it's logical that such opinions arise on a forum dedicated to Bitcoin (and other cryptocurrencies). I'm sure that on the forums of believers/gun lovers/anti-abortion/supporters or opponents of migration, everyone is also sure that their question is the main one and the outcome of the vote will depend on it.
I am a big crypto enthusiast, but I think that the attitude towards cryptocurrencies is the last thing that the voter will look at - there are many more pressing issues that attract attention.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 27, 2024, 06:55:27 PM

Lol...you guys will not kill me with laughter Grin

...I can't believe you labelled Bitcoin as the decisive factor for the US election, you must be joking. The US election is not a child's play and many factors will determine it, of which Bitcoin will be the least of the factors. I guess you did not do the math well before even saying that. For the record, it's only about 21% of Americans dealing with cryptocurrency, of which many of them will not be eligible voters. This means that a drastically reduced percentage who are dealing with it are also eligible for voting. I can equally assure you that more than half of these people will not influence their votes simply because of Bitcoin. There are various alternatives to invest and make transactions for the Yankees, as they do not take Bitcoin to the extreme as you think, except a few.

Agreed 100%. The vast majority of the Bitcoin users in US are smalltime investors, who make one time investment of $100 and $200. Bitcoin is just one of the many type of non-priority investments in their portfolio. The number of active Bitcoiners (who deal with Bitcoin at least once a week) maybe as low as 100,000, with the majority spread out in states such as New York, Texas, California and Florida. In swing states, you may have 1k or 2k of these people, who are not a decisive factor by any means.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 27, 2024, 06:41:10 PM

Quote from: Distraction on July 27, 2024, 09:55:25 AM

The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

I think those odds are more realistic than you’re seeing from the media with their poll numbers. They’d have you believe that Kamala is in the lead for some reason. Vegas never lies though. It’s looking very much like a Trump victory is in the cards for November and from hearing him talk today, I’m ecstatic about it.

The only outlet I've seen pushing this narrative pretty hard has been CNBC (granted I'm not SUPER dialed in, but I read the "news") I mean she's only been the candidate for what, a week (not even sure if she is officially tbh)? I think it's insane to really post poll findings already as if they are really sound , prediction wise. Old man Joe certainly wasn't leading any polls I know of, and we all know (us muricans) he had a slim chance period. I think Kamala has a CHANCE, albeit just slightly better than that of Joe. I do not support trump (though I wish the republicans would pick a somewhat centered candidate as I would LOVE to vote Red) and I didn't support Biden and so I had planned to vote off ballot like I did with Trump/Clinton, but now..I MIGHT vote Kamala, as much as I dislike her and feel she's absolutely not fit to run this country either. I can't be alone here, but not sure those that fit in this category such as myself make up much % wise (realistically even 1-2% would prob be max I'd have to guess..not likely changing the outcome).

what kinda odd's are you seeing on your casino for donny now? ( I need to check mine). Even with good odds in presidential elections I feel like you just never know in this crazy country of ours.

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Both parties have candidates trying to target the younger voters, something in that demographic they have decided could change the vote for them from a loss to win. Harris has some strange story about being a brat, some kind of tik tok meme that she qualifies as trendy with the youngest newest voters. Trump as per his more capitalist slant has his people determing he should be on the side of Bitcoin for votes in order to qualify as valid with the youngest voters.

Both sides are spouting nonsense and I dont think even if they convince new voters to go for them, probably the actual vote wont arrive as people are easily distracted. I remember my first qualified vote I had finished working a 13hr shift and I just wanted to go home, not extend my day by a few more hours just to go place a probably useless vote to a lost cause for people who didnt care about me anyway just themselves.

Mostly true reflection of the situation even now while slightly cynical, if its easy then I can see people voting but its the oldest voters who tend to make sure they get at least something in exchange for all that tax they have paid.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 27, 2024, 06:41:10 PM

Quote from: Distraction on July 27, 2024, 09:55:25 AM

The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

I think those odds are more realistic than you’re seeing from the media with their poll numbers. They’d have you believe that Kamala is in the lead for some reason. Vegas never lies though. It’s looking very much like a Trump victory is in the cards for November and from hearing him talk today, I’m ecstatic about it.

Just out of curiosity, have you already placed you bet on Trump or are you waiting for the last minute before getting your money on the table? I was quite undecided on whether to put my money on, so I am waiting for October surprise before placing anything.
Though, if things continue to go this way, it is pretty much likely you are right and Trump is going to get his second term. I don't believe the United States is ready to elect a woman as the president of the country, and Kamala has some important flaws, which could play against her campaign, the political right and their media will relentlessly point out anything they can pick up on.
If there is no October surprise, I guess I will place a moderate bet on Trump

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You never know what's going on behind the scenes. In any case, there are less than 24 hours left until Trump speaks at the Bitcoin Conference in Nashville and I think he can win a lot of votes from people in the cryptocurrency space, from simple holders of modest amounts to big miners.

How many active Bitcoin users and investors are there in the United States? 100k? or 1 million? The number is too small to be electorally significant. And I believe that the vast majority of the Bitcoin users already support Trump. He has made many pro-Bitcoin comments during his campaign, and even promised amnesty for Ross Ulbricht in case he is elected as the POTUS. Around 3 months remain for the elections, and if the current trend continues, then we will have Donald Trump as the 48th president of the United States.

If Trump speaks in favor of bitcoin today at the bitcoin conference, it will be the decisive factor in the American elections... after all, what will decide are the hodlers and the people who buy cryptocurrencies.

Lol...you guys will not kill me with laughter Grin

...I can't believe you labelled Bitcoin as the decisive factor for the US election, you must be joking. The US election is not a child's play and many factors will determine it, of which Bitcoin will be the least of the factors. I guess you did not do the math well before even saying that. For the record, it's only about 21% of Americans dealing with cryptocurrency, of which many of them will not be eligible voters. This means that a drastically reduced percentage who are dealing with it are also eligible for voting. I can equally assure you that more than half of these people will not influence their votes simply because of Bitcoin. There are various alternatives to invest and make transactions for the Yankees, as such, they do not take Bitcoin to the extreme as you think, except a few.

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Quote from: Distraction on July 27, 2024, 09:55:25 AM

The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

I think those odds are more realistic than you’re seeing from the media with their poll numbers. They’d have you believe that Kamala is in the lead for some reason. Vegas never lies though. It’s looking very much like a Trump victory is in the cards for November and from hearing him talk today, I’m ecstatic about it.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 26, 2024, 10:33:15 AM

Just 101 days remain for the Presidential elections:
https://days.to/until/election-day-in-us

It will be almost impossible for Kamala to overtake Trump, given the fact that polls always underestimate Trump's strength. If the current trend stays, then there will be a red landslide on November 2024. As they get more and more desperate, the Marxist-Leninist wing of the Democrat party (which consists of individuals such as Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama) may resort to more desperate measures. And this will have unintended consequences for the American economy.

I think the same, for me Trump has already secured his term as president, because the things he has happened are impressive, now I wonder something, if Trump wins, what will happen to those judges who made his life so impossible? If Trump discovers that everything was a scam and dismantles a large number of corrupt people, wow, that will be impressive, plus the secret service has many flaws, all this is exciting at the same time, we will see how it turns out, but I think they will not surpass Trump, it really is very difficult.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on July 27, 2024, 04:37:31 PM

Quote from: Distraction on July 27, 2024, 09:55:25 AM

The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

Do you think Kamala Harris has a realistic chance to win this election? I see some media sources trying to push Kamala Harris with some fake news also. I'm not saying Trump is a good candidate either of course. Grin

But in my opinion, Trump has gained a huge advantage after that assassination attempt. He is absolutely going to use that for increasing his chance. By the way, Elon Musk is favouring him too you know and I guess I don't need to say how much influence he has over people.

Wow! Trump now is having another strong opponent? Is it Biden’s supporters now switching to this Kamala Harris just so Trump doesn’t win the presidential election? After all what happened and the popularity, love, support that Trump gained these last days especially after the assassination attempt against him, showing the great image of him, not running but still raising his hand for victory.

I smell something off this time, why many websites in internet are comparing this new candidate and some of the news are also saying Harris will win? I thought Biden had more support than anyone else besides Trump? Like this we understand that these elections are between Trump and anyone else who’s willing to compete against Trump.

Strong opponent ? why would you consider Kamala a strong opponent for Trump ? She literally found herself over night in this position and it's very hard for her to actually inspire confidence to her voters. No wonder why Trump is considered favorite by far on bets and I'm sure he will be the next president of USA. Regarding news , it depends what newspapers are you reading as some of them are with Kamala and others support Trump so each side are trying to consider their favorite to be victorious.

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Quote from: Distraction on July 27, 2024, 09:55:25 AM

The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

Do you think Kamala Harris has a realistic chance to win this election? I see some media sources trying to push Kamala Harris with some fake news also. I'm not saying Trump is a good candidate either of course. Grin

But in my opinion, Trump has gained a huge advantage after that assassination attempt. He is absolutely going to use that for increasing his chance. By the way, Elon Musk is favouring him too you know and I guess I don't need to say how much influence he has over people.

Wow! Trump now is having another strong opponent? Is it Biden’s supporters now switching to this Kamala Harris just so Trump doesn’t win the presidential election? After all what happened and the popularity, love, support that Trump gained these last days especially after the assassination attempt against him, showing the great image of him, not running but still raising his hand for victory.

I smell something off this time, why many websites in internet are comparing this new candidate and some of the news are also saying Harris will win? I thought Biden had more support than anyone else besides Trump? Like this we understand that these elections are between Trump and anyone else who’s willing to compete against Trump.

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Quote from: cabron on July 27, 2024, 11:35:50 AM

Quote from: Distraction on July 27, 2024, 09:55:25 AM

The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

Do you think Kamala Harris has a realistic chance to win this election? I see some media sources trying to push Kamala Harris with some fake news also. I'm not saying Trump is a good candidate either of course. Grin

But in my opinion, Trump has gained a huge advantage after that assassination attempt. He is absolutely going to use that for increasing his chance. By the way, Elon Musk is favouring him too you know and I guess I don't need to say how much influence he has over people.

The assassination attempt already elevated Trump like a modern-day hero and people even assume God gave him this 2nd life to save America. It really enhances his chances, we can already see more influencers acknowledge how he handled that situation. She showed bravery to lead the country even Mark Zuckerberg, not just Elon acknowledges Trump already.

And Trump using Bitcoin to get votes from the millions of crypto users, it cemented his path. Kamala is also trying her way to crypto but I doubt it will work for her. Kamala however got better odds than Biden so there must be votes going to her, probably the loyal liberals and the ones who hated Trump to the core.

That's true and whoever his PR is doing a good job. The Trump assassination on the other hand really boosted his chance to win this presidential election and I've seen neighbors talking about it. It may be a bad thing to say but it actually helped a lot for the Trump supporters and new ones to support him more.
I am seeing a lot of fake news on social media saying Trump is backing out because he thinks he has no chance of winning this election. He just didn't agree with the debate yet against Kamal Harris and they used that to fuel something that is not true. I am not a Trump supporter but I think we should be aware of the news that is coming out because some will use them to spread wrong things and cut the statements to make it look negative.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 25, 2024, 07:51:51 AM

Next, and only debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris will take place on 10th September, and will be hosted by the ABC Network. The debate will be moderated by David Muir (anchor of ABC World News Tonight) and Linsey Davis (anchor of ABC News Live Prime). But there is some uncertainty as well. Trump supporters have cast doubt regarding the neutrality of the anchors, as well as that of the anchors. They want the debate to be hosted by Fox Network (which is unacceptable for the Democrat nominee).

There is no doubt that USA is as divided as it gets and people could see any type of moderator would be with one of the candidates. If they go wit hone channel, it would be kamala, if they go with another, it would be trump. We can't say that there is a truly natural moderator, nobody in the USA is like that, not anymore at least. So either Trump has to agree to a Kamala supporter moderator or Kamala has to agree to one that is a Trump supporter, there is no other way around it.

And considering Kamala has never been the president, and just recently got appointed, then I would say that it is likely that it's only fair to do it this way, or Trump could just pull out (not something he is good at) and not do it at all, but in that case Kamala will talk about how he ran away from her scared of her.

That is why he will do it, and because he has been a president before, and because he has been on the campaign trail for months already, I can say that he doesn't need fox, he already is in the lead, or at least he should be, and that means Kamala could get a "moderator likes me" kind of advantage, not something huge to be fair, not enough to change the outcome of the elections, so let that be. If trump loses, it wouldn't be because of this.

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Quote from: Distraction on July 27, 2024, 09:55:25 AM

The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

Do you think Kamala Harris has a realistic chance to win this election? I see some media sources trying to push Kamala Harris with some fake news also. I'm not saying Trump is a good candidate either of course. Grin

But in my opinion, Trump has gained a huge advantage after that assassination attempt. He is absolutely going to use that for increasing his chance. By the way, Elon Musk is favouring him too you know and I guess I don't need to say how much influence he has over people.

The assassination attempt already elevated Trump like a modern-day hero and people even assume God gave him this 2nd life to save America. It really enhances his chances, we can already see more influencers acknowledge how he handled that situation. She showed bravery to lead the country even Mark Zuckerberg, not just Elon acknowledges Trump already.

And Trump using Bitcoin to get votes from the millions of crypto users, it cemented his path. Kamala is also trying her way to crypto but I doubt it will work for her. Kamala however got better odds than Biden so there must be votes going to her, probably the loyal liberals and the ones who hated Trump to the core.

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Quote from: mindrust on July 25, 2024, 02:43:11 PM

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It is incredibly telling that the media is trying to push this narrative that Harris is beating Trump in the polls while gambling markets are overwhelming telling a different story. Maybe we need to start gambling on all the news events so we can actually get some truth instead of the media pushing their agenda.

They are trying to justify whatever evil shit they have in their mind for the election.

"Look, she won and it is not a surprise because the polls were already saying it!"

Many demrat voters cheered for the Trump shooter, expect the worst.

Yep. This is the algorithm they are going to use to steal the election again. In recent days, I have been watching the media try to distort/cancel the facts they themselves voiced about Harris and I have the impression that we are living in Orwell's novel "1984".
All these lying "fact checks" and expert opinions... I don't understand how you can lie so stupidly when everyone has the Internet and can check everything yourself. Apparently this propaganda is aimed at really stupid people (interesting choice of target audience haha).

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The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

Do you think Kamala Harris has a realistic chance to win this election? I see some media sources trying to push Kamala Harris with some fake news also. I'm not saying Trump is a good candidate either of course. Grin

But in my opinion, Trump has gained a huge advantage after that assassination attempt. He is absolutely going to use that for increasing his chance. By the way, Elon Musk is favouring him too you know and I guess I don't need to say how much influence he has over people.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 27, 2024, 12:30:17 AM

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You never know what's going on behind the scenes. In any case, there are less than 24 hours left until Trump speaks at the Bitcoin Conference in Nashville and I think he can win a lot of votes from people in the cryptocurrency space, from simple holders of modest amounts to big miners.

How many active Bitcoin users and investors are there in the United States? 100k? or 1 million? The number is too small to be electorally significant. And I believe that the vast majority of the Bitcoin users already support Trump. He has made many pro-Bitcoin comments during his campaign, and even promised amnesty for Ross Ulbricht in case he is elected as the POTUS. Around 3 months remain for the elections, and if the current trend continues, then we will have Donald Trump as the 48th president of the United States.

If Trump speaks in favor of bitcoin today at the bitcoin conference, it will be the decisive factor in the American elections... after all, what will decide are the hodlers and the people who buy cryptocurrencies... And I believe he will do exactly that: a speech in favor of freedom, the total abandonment of a CBDC and support for bitcoin, all for the votes, of course.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 10:58:13 PM

You never know what's going on behind the scenes. In any case, there are less than 24 hours left until Trump speaks at the Bitcoin Conference in Nashville and I think he can win a lot of votes from people in the cryptocurrency space, from simple holders of modest amounts to big miners.

How many active Bitcoin users and investors are there in the United States? 100k? or 1 million? The number is too small to be electorally significant. And I believe that the vast majority of the Bitcoin users already support Trump. He has made many pro-Bitcoin comments during his campaign, and even promised amnesty for Ross Ulbricht in case he is elected as the POTUS. Around 3 months remain for the elections, and if the current trend continues, then we will have Donald Trump as the 48th president of the United States.

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Quote from: uneng on July 26, 2024, 10:00:01 PM

Polls always indicate a technical tie between the candidates. It's actually a phenomenon visible in the whole american continent to say the true. But the tendency is that polls always boost the left wing candidate, as recent history shows us. So I agree with you that Trump is most likely to win, considering this. I think the hype around Kamala is part of a strategical movement from Democrats to give the impression the fact they had to replace Biden by her wasn't a defeat at all.

Polls or surveys can not be trusted. A survey design is very important and can affect its result a lot. If design is bad, a survey sample is bad to represent the population in target and result will be inaccurate by many bias factors. Survey results can be considered as references but many things can be changed in reality, it's a first big problem, and as said surveys can have many bias factors and inaccurate results that are not represent the population.

Not yet to say, media in the USA. under the current Presidency has been skewed towards Democrats, with many faked and cooked news.

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However, if Kamala were so popular and strong like the media is encouraging people to believe, why wasn't she the first choice of the party as the main candidate for this election? Why would the party have to expose an elder with cognitive decline as first candidate alternative?

There is other new sources that say Kamala Harris is one of worst women politicians, not belong to best women politicians in the nation. Some people said about Kamala like this and I am not impressed with here, honestly. She luckily inherited foundations from President Joe Biden but I believe it won't be enough for her to impress citizens and win the coming President Election.

Her amazing speech and message
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1816974609637417112

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Quote from: uneng on July 26, 2024, 10:00:01 PM

However, if Kamala were so popular and strong like the media is encouraging people to believe, why wasn't she the first choice of the party as the main candidate for this election? Why would the party have to expose an elder with cognitive decline as first candidate alternative?

You never know what's going on behind the scenes. In any case, there are less than 24 hours left until Trump speaks at the Bitcoin Conference in Nashville and I think he can win a lot of votes from people in the cryptocurrency space, from simple holders of modest amounts to big miners.

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Quote from: STT on July 26, 2024, 07:59:43 PM

Present polls are saying a tie between Harris and Trump, this measure of the voters across USA would mean in an electoral college result that Trump most likely wins.

Polls always indicate a technical tie between the candidates. It's actually a phenomenon visible in the whole american continent to say the true. But the tendency is that polls always boost the left wing candidate, as recent history shows us. So I agree with you that Trump is most likely to win, considering this. I think the hype around Kamala is part of a strategical movement from Democrats to give the impression the fact they had to replace Biden by her wasn't a defeat at all.

However, if Kamala were so popular and strong like the media is encouraging people to believe, why wasn't she the first choice of the party as the main candidate for this election? Why would the party have to expose an elder with cognitive decline as first candidate alternative?

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