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Quote from: STT on September 17, 2024, 05:56:49 PM

Yesterday Trump was live for his first interview post the arrest of a hostile with a gun near his golf game. I wont call it an actual attempt as the potential shooter never got close from the details Ive heard.
In any case Trump went live with a crypto interview and promotion which is also controversial for a candidate to do I think. To what extent was this a personally connected promotion Im not sure because as a candidate surely he should not be promoting any business for sponsorship in that way but maybe the rules allow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDhoIKUg_4

What I think is that a celebrity or a political figure will never take Bitcoin to the heights it is until they truly understand what Bitcoin is all about. He may be doing these things by focusing on the crypto community through his son. If that happens, we may see some positives for the time being, but in the long run we will see more losses than gains. Already @Don Pedro Dinero mention about musk condition. Musk is a businessman who briefly showed interest in Bitcoin as well as plans for his Dogecoin, but that is no more. I think it's better to keep crypto independent. After the election process, a clearer idea will be obtained from these issues.

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Looking at the polls and the social media, not a lot of republicans care about this second "attempt", one of the main reasons is that it was nowhere near Trump, it was "shooting around where he was" so he wasn't even directly shot at, no bullets were even vicinity of where trump was, so it wasn't really an "attempt" as it was a scare tactic at the very best case.

On the other hand, democrats are literally saying it was something Trump himself organized after realizing that he is losing places as republican as even north Carolina, the polls are showing that there is a possibility of 320+ EC votes for Kamala if all goes to her as polls show, there is a possibility, and even if she doesn't get all, she is leading more than margin of error right now, so Trump organized this to make sure he gets some votes back and gets some republicans rallied behind him.

Obviously it's something we can expect him to do, not saying he did it, but those horrible corrupt people around him could have arranged something like this and wouldn't surprise me.

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Quote from: Wonder Work on September 17, 2024, 02:45:14 AM

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That's it, the election would be keenly contested and I think this will be an eye-opener to bigots who think Bitcoin will determine the next US president, how foolish is that? I wonder how many times they mentioned Bitcoin in the debate.

Currently, they are putting too much emphasis on Bitcoin, giving them an irrational view of the political future. Bitcoin cannot directly determine election results. I find intense competition and political maneuvering in elections much more difficult.

I know many factors play into election results, such as economic conditions, social issues, and the candidates' power and political standing. Bitcoin may have an effect but will not act as the sole cause.

The way they talked about Bitcoin in the Bitcoin 2024 debate is shocking. Their contention suggests that Bitcoin is a higher priority in their campaign. There won't be any hype about Bitcoin, it will stop after the election.

I must applaud your wisdom here, you are another person who sees the situation rightly, there are too many pressing issues than to emphasize Bitcoin in the US election. It amazes me how some people (mostly here) think/talk like a child, and at times, it got me thinking whether they want people to read what they want them to believe of them about Bitcoin or they are just so senseless because of their disposition about Bitcoin and the US election because it's just gross believing Bitcoin is the decider of the US election, what a heck!!!

The US is the most followed election in the world and its place/responsibility is beyond the US itself but the entire world. Now tell me, when Bitcoin is nothing to a lesser country, how much will it determine the election of a big country like the US which the Yankees and the world at large watch out for for security, stability etc? If the US fails today, many things will fail in the world, are they telling me that Bitcoin will now determine its next president? Bitcoin is not even 0.01% of the determining factor, no wonder Harris beat Trump in the debate, that's someone who didn't put the crypto mantra on her head.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 17, 2024, 11:28:09 PM

Quote from: STT on September 16, 2024, 05:42:20 PM

Putin wouldnt have answered the question in any sensible way, he would take it as a joke and answered as such. USA and Russia are as hostile as they've been since the era of the bay of pigs etc. It was a stupid question and returned with a stupid answer. Trump says he'll alter the Ukraine war & since Putin has had nothing but pain from that mistake its obvious he would like a change in policy. I dont doubt he will wait for the outcome of the election to decide the war in some way, its that pivotal most likely. There is no gain but he wishes to reduce losses surely and loss of face.

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I thought the security agents would get paranoid and significantly increase the former president's security

For the money they cant cover every angle. This time they did their job and stopped it well in advance, he didnt get a shot off. I wonder if he can even be charged with any attempt but it should not matter as I think filing the serial off a gun is a sentence of more then a decade perhaps, they have enough anyway.

There are speculations that Putin started the war against Ukraine because the western allies are very much close on convincing Ukraine to join NATO. This expansion by NATO is implied as a threat by Putin and Russian generals.

I reckon if Trump becomes the president of America, he might issue an order to stop this expansion and use diplomacy for Russia to stop this war. Putin has mentioned already that there is a possibility that Russia will use nuclear weapons of Ukraine joins NATO during this war. In any case, it appears that Trump will lose the election and this war will certainly continue and increase under the administration of Harris.

Yeah NATO expansion has been one of the Kremlins talking points from the start. Then when Sweden and Finland (both share borders with Russia) joined in response to the invasion, Putin acted like no big deal...

And Putting Ukraine, our ally, in the worst possible position by cutting of weapons and then trying to negotiate a plea deal might seem diplomatic, but Ukraine is not the first country Putin attacked for political control, and if he gets Ukraine it won't be the last.
And Trump was already contemplating leaving NATO during his second term until he lost the election (which he is still confused about somehow). He respects American enemies and disrespects American allies - something about their style of leadership and the way they act like super strong manly men. I'm sure you've heard his rants about NATO members not paying their bills (which makes only a little bit of sense), it's because he knows they think he's a clown.

Putin and Xi think he's a clown also I would bet....but a very useful clown. He seems to be embracing it from his truth social profile picture. Or maybe he was just getting board with the orange, who knows.

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Quote from: STT on September 16, 2024, 05:42:20 PM

Putin wouldnt have answered the question in any sensible way, he would take it as a joke and answered as such. USA and Russia are as hostile as they've been since the era of the bay of pigs etc. It was a stupid question and returned with a stupid answer. Trump says he'll alter the Ukraine war & since Putin has had nothing but pain from that mistake its obvious he would like a change in policy. I dont doubt he will wait for the outcome of the election to decide the war in some way, its that pivotal most likely. There is no gain but he wishes to reduce losses surely and loss of face.

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I thought the security agents would get paranoid and significantly increase the former president's security

For the money they cant cover every angle. This time they did their job and stopped it well in advance, he didnt get a shot off. I wonder if he can even be charged with any attempt but it should not matter as I think filing the serial off a gun is a sentence of more then a decade perhaps, they have enough anyway.

There are speculations that Putin started the war against Ukraine because the western allies are very much close on convincing Ukraine to join NATO. This expansion by NATO is implied as a threat by Putin and Russian generals.

I reckon if Trump becomes the president of America, he might issue an order to stop this expansion and use diplomacy for Russia to stop this war. Putin has mentioned already that there is a possibility that Russia will use nuclear weapons of Ukraine joins NATO during this war. In any case, it appears that Trump will lose the election and this war will certainly continue and increase under the administration of Harris.

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Quote from: STT on September 17, 2024, 05:56:49 PM

In any case Trump went live with a crypto interview and promotion which is also controversial for a candidate to do I think. To what extent was this a personally connected promotion Im not sure because as a candidate surely he should not be promoting any business for sponsorship in that way but maybe the rules allow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDhoIKUg_4

According to what I read some time ago, he has a son who is involved in these issues, but if Trump's backing of bitcoin is going to end up pushing a shitcoin, it seems to me that it is going to be more harm than good for us. It reminds me of Musk buying bitcoin and then the price going down when he sold and started pushing Dogecoin.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on September 17, 2024, 08:02:35 PM

Quote from: EluguHcman on September 17, 2024, 06:22:26 PM

It has indeed been obvious that the Democrats has now been gained fit against the republicans since Biden stepped down for Kamala to face Trump against the US up coming election.

I think the reveal of that strategy was the only one that has shaped the republicans that great rival.

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I no longer believe in media with what's happened recent months. Media are very censored and full of manipulation, fake news and I don't say all opposites to what's mentioning on media are true, but most of them are, in my opinion.

When belief gone, it's hard to have it again and it's what's going on with media in the USA. With this disbelief, I am very doubtful on what's spreading on media with advantage of the Democratic Party after their nominee switched from Joe Biden to Kamala Harris. It's can be true or can be untrue but I don't believe what they're trying to inform us.

I was hoping crying about the media had become out of fashion, but now that Trump isn't leading in all the polls, gotta find someone to blame I guess.

You're prob just paying too much attention to right wing media, headlines that make you angry click and then read about how dishonest "the media is".

Also, you responded to a screenshot from a crypto gambling site.

Also, I'm probably waisting my time responding to a signature spammer. Fuck me.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on September 17, 2024, 06:22:26 PM

It has indeed been obvious that the Democrats has now been gained fit against the republicans since Biden stepped down for Kamala to face Trump against the US up coming election.

I think the reveal of that strategy was the only one that has shaped the republicans that great rival.

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I no longer believe in media with what's happened recent months. Media are very censored and full of manipulation, fake news and I don't say all opposites to what's mentioning on media are true, but most of them are, in my opinion.

When belief gone, it's hard to have it again and it's what's going on with media in the USA. With this disbelief, I am very doubtful on what's spreading on media with advantage of the Democratic Party after their nominee switched from Joe Biden to Kamala Harris. It's can be true or can be untrue but I don't believe what they're trying to inform us.

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It has indeed been obvious that the Democrats has now been gained fit against the republicans since Biden stepped down for Kamala to face Trump against the US up coming election.

I think the reveal of that strategy was the only one that has shaped the republicans that great rival.

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Wait a second, who else has this thought that for the casinos to adopt listing this election in their sites there could be possibilities to earlier determine who would win this future election based on the betting pool?

Or is there some sort of strategies driving this pool to be false? Just having this thought.

But anyways since we assuming betting for phone and also election not being a do or die political activities, I will still bet on Trump to win because that man's political strategies at this how returns can not be undermined. 😄

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Its not that wacky when you consider all the guns available both legal and illegal. I find it far more disturbing there is a constant stream of attempts to assassinate children in schools and somehow this becomes a norm in this modern era; that this can ever make any sense even in the most fevered demented mind is far worse.

Why also with all this shooting are the gun regulations not more of a policy up for debate. I know its old ground but its clearly relevant to all parts of society. The only change I've noticed recently is they hold people accountable for the supply of the gun to some extent not just use and thats new maybe.

Yesterday Trump was live for his first interview post the arrest of a hostile with a gun near his golf game. I wont call it an actual attempt as the potential shooter never got close from the details Ive heard.
In any case Trump went live with a crypto interview and promotion which is also controversial for a candidate to do I think. To what extent was this a personally connected promotion Im not sure because as a candidate surely he should not be promoting any business for sponsorship in that way but maybe the rules allow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDhoIKUg_4

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 17, 2024, 03:41:41 PM

Why is there so much effort to kill him? What danger does this guy pose to so many assassination attempts? The world is getting crazier and crazier, especially when it comes to political issues.

Hate + Violent History + Opportunity:

He's very good at convincing the people that support him to hate the people that don't support him with lies, same goes for the most marginalized groups in society (immigrants, lgbtq, etc....easy targets)

He has a long history of violent rhetoric followed by violent attacks or constant harassment for whoever his target is.

It's no secret that he golfs all the time on the same golf course that has his name on the sign.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 17, 2024, 01:35:31 PM

Quote from: Hispo on September 13, 2024, 11:38:23 AM

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I think moderators did not do so bad for Trump to complain about them, actually, it would seem to me he is upset because those moderators fack-checked the thing he was claiming to be true on live TV. In the previous debate, when he faced Joe Biden, he was able to lie with confidence and unchallenged neither by Biden or the moderators themselves. That was the main difference, in this debate he was challenged and it was pointed out when he was lying to the public.
Also, I have seen many people from the Republican party to claim Kamala Harris is a deranged communist or socialist, which it is difficult for me to believe, considering people within the democrat party itself do not believe Kamala is leftist enough for the majority of the voting base, there have been arguments she is closer to the center of the political spectrum instead of all the way to the left.

To each their own, but unlike you, I am waiting for the last moment before placing my bets on the books. You should take a look on the internet about the American phenomenon called "October surprise", it could easily turn this election around..

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 17, 2024, 03:41:41 PM

Never in history have there been two assassination attempts against a candidate (who we all know was once president of the world's largest economy, the USA), Donald Trump. Why is there so much effort to kill him? What danger does this guy pose to so many assassination attempts? The world is getting crazier and crazier, especially when it comes to political issues.

Will this become a trend for the next election campaigns, especially attacks against right-wing, centrist, etc. candidates?

After the first assassination attempt, it was already clear this was not going to be a normal presidential race, but having almost a second assassination attempt against Trump is ridiculous... It shows fast the political weather of a country can devolve and become something which was never supposed to be. The United States is the last country where one is supposed to be afraid of getting killed because one's position as candidate, at this point, I am surprised there are have not been markets on bookies about either Trump will be victims of a third assassination attempt or not.
It is just a disgrace this is happening in the United States.

Also, Trump won't get much sympathy from all of this, the first attempt was more graphic and explicit than this one, in which the suspect did not have the chance to shoot a bullet at Trump.

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Never in history have there been two assassination attempts against a candidate (who we all know was once president of the world's largest economy, the USA), Donald Trump. Why is there so much effort to kill him? What danger does this guy pose to so many assassination attempts? The world is getting crazier and crazier, especially when it comes to political issues.

Will this become a trend for the next election campaigns, especially attacks against right-wing, centrist, etc. candidates?

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I have a couple of questions for that matter:
A USA citizen could bet on the winner?
Did you know a place where I can find odds comparator between bookmakers?
For what I have seen on a crypto site, odds have just little if no changes from some weeks... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Wonder Work on September 17, 2024, 02:45:14 AM

Currently, they are putting too much emphasis on Bitcoin, giving them an irrational view of the political future. Bitcoin cannot directly determine election results. I find intense competition and political maneuvering in elections much more difficult.

I know many factors play into election results, such as economic conditions, social issues, and the candidates' power and political standing. Bitcoin may have an effect but will not act as the sole cause.

The way they talked about Bitcoin in the Bitcoin 2024 debate is shocking. Their contention suggests that Bitcoin is a higher priority in their campaign. There won't be any hype about Bitcoin, it will stop after the election.

What are you even talking about? They didn't even mention bitcoin, crypto or blockchain during the debate.

And "they are putting too much emphasis on" it? Trump is the only one speaking about cryptos, and when i say "speaking" about them, i mean he is just mumbling a word salad that doesn't mean anything, that includes some crypto related buzz words. It's painfully obvious to everyone, that he don't understand anything about it. Which isn't really surprising as even most crypto users don't understand them. He just understands less.

Yet it seems that his Minions are planning to sell a new token for him called World Liberty Financial. I guess World Trump Financial had acronym would be too accurate acronym.
But it all makes sense when you look at it from a scammers point of view. Obviously it's going to pump and dump hard, if it even pumps. It will fall like DJT stock after trump dumps both of them. Because given his track record of scams, he likes to use people, and i guess there are people paying for it, like they paid for trump university.

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Quote from: Hispo on September 13, 2024, 11:38:23 AM

I am not from the United States, but I have some friends over there. The understanding I have on this topic is debates generally dominate over poll numbers, polls numbers are a reflection on what the general public is supposed to be thinking (in theory) and that perception can be changed more or less depending on what the candidate has to say during a debate.
Also, if I was you I would not give much credit to poll numbers whatsoever, remember back several months ago, when polls showed there was supposed to be a red wave in those elections and it turns out it did not happen, republicans did not take over the house of representative and the Senate as polls pointed it was going to happen.
So, to me polls numbers are mostly meaningless in this unprecedented period on time in the United States.

Even as polls seems to have turn in favor of Kamala, in the same manner betting markets have, we should not consider those signals to be definitive.
I am expecting the very last week before placing my bet and see whether will have an October surprise this year, as people in the USA call it.

Well, you're right about that, the polls are no longer reliable. I didn't actually watch the debate. That day, they were showing the soccer games in the South American qualifiers, but from what I saw, they said that Kamala Harris had won. But other news reports say that both the ABC News interviewer and Kamala agreed to attack Trump and that Trump was interrupted every time he spoke. If things are like that, then it wasn't fair. I think that in a competition, debate or something similar, things should be done on equal terms.

I am aware that many do not like Trump, but I have seen many things that accuse Kamala of having characteristics similar to those of being a Socialist/Communist, and as I said, that would be the end for this prosperous nation, I hope it is not like that, I am already decided that Trump will become president, win or lose, it is my bet, and according to many predictions they say that Kamala will win the presidency, even in the Simpsons they also predict it.

I have always been in disagreement with the world elites, they do not go with me, it seems to me that this is what is rotten in the world, and if a representation of them is going to win, well I hope it is not like that.

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I thought that it was Trump who is asking for a second debate as they know that they have been defeated on the first one? So if the consensus is that Kamala did better, then why ask for a rematch when she won already?

The flow of their debate organization is as follows:

Trump asked for debates. Kamala refused or ignored many times.
Trump asked for debates with first on Kamala-supported media like ACB news, then two more debates with one in a Republic-supporrted news.

At the end, at least so far, Kamala agreed to do only one debate which was hosted by ABCnews and we saw how ABCnews did their severe election interference days ago.

So after refusing to do two other debates, why shortly after a first debate, Kamala wanted more?

Think about it, analyze the flow, something can be retrieved.

Kamala just agreed to the same debate that was originally scheduled between Biden and Trump, same time, same network, same rules. I think the only thing she tried to change was to keep Trumps mic on the whole time. And the debate happened less than two months after her campaign even existed....so wherever you're getting all your 'flow of their debate organization' from....don't get stuff from there anymore.

Again, I'm not a US citizen so I'm just confused on why after she supposedly winning the first debate, she will go and ask for a second one.

With that, I don't know or how will analyzed the "flow" of it. I'm just trying to dissect it as clearly as I can or just used the obvious reasoning that once you win already, there's no need to have a rematch, unless you are didn't win the first one, in my opinion.

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Quote from: sompitonov on September 17, 2024, 04:54:38 AM

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There is still enough time for everything to change, there have already been many things that have changed opinions for one candidate or another. From assassination attempts to public debates, I think that this is not all that will happen that will radically change opinions, because there is still a lot of time, a whole month and a half. Nevertheless, I just now went in and looked at the probabilities of victory, and they are almost equal. Of course, it may be that with such probabilities the voting will begin and in that case I think every vote will be decisive, perhaps we will witness the thinnest margin between candidates in the history of elections in the USA.

Absolutely.

I think people already had forgotten about the initial shooting against Trump, and he just got a second scare.

There will definitely be more ups and downs to this story.

It's far from over, even after the votes are counted I am sure there will be more things happening.

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There was another "assassination attempt" against Trump in Florida. I'm not sure that this attempt is even real. It seems to me that the Republicans are just desperate at this point and they try to boost Trump's popularity by making him look like a victim of the "deep state".
I am 90% sure that Kamala Harris will win the election, unless she makes some stupid mistake until November. Vladimir Putin said that he supports Harris, because she is predictable(and maybe because he wants the USA to have a weak president). Maybe Putin will get what he wants. Grin

I don't support anyone of the candidates and I'm not a US citizen, but the future of the world is going to suck. Sad

The previous assassination attempt increased Trump’s popularity by a significant percentage. I believe a second assassination attempt will double the previous numbers. People who are not interested in the US elections are asking questions about why Trump is always getting shot at. And why is no one trying to shoot at Kamala Harris. The second assassination attempt is taking the attention from the debate and Trump is on everyone’s lips again. Whoever is trying to kill the man is doing him a favour by failing.

He provably get the sympathy of people when that incident happen, but people decision change that incident has been forgotten already and to many things happen especially the take over of Kamala Harris in the poll. Provably they create something unique that's right now its like Trump is losing with Harris. If he want to stay in the game and want to fight on polls maybe he should do more better job since right now Harris is dominating and provably this situations changes the mind of political bettors and they would go to Harris if until near election date she still get the lead against Trump.

Harris still winning on poll as latest survey says https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/09/15/trump-vs-harris-2024-polls-harris-leads-by-2-points-in-latest-survey/

She also seen as winner on last debate against Trump https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris-debate-winner-maintaining-slight-lead-trump-poll/story?id=113673862

There is still enough time for everything to change, there have already been many things that have changed opinions for one candidate or another. From assassination attempts to public debates, I think that this is not all that will happen that will radically change opinions, because there is still a lot of time, a whole month and a half. Nevertheless, I just now went in and looked at the probabilities of victory, and they are almost equal. Of course, it may be that with such probabilities the voting will begin and in that case I think every vote will be decisive, perhaps we will witness the thinnest margin between candidates in the history of elections in the USA.

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