Polls arent especially accurate but I wouldn't rely on the odds to tell you who wins either, both of them have the flaw of just saying who they think will win. A poll is supposed to be superior but its probably fair to rank them equally capable of being wrong.
The whole talk about popular vote is probably a large part why, that isnt how the election is run. Funny stat to state DEM almost always have the larger number of votes, but it still doesnt matter because its an election from across the united states not just purely people directly voting. It is confusing I guess but its part of why I thought Trump would not win, he had lost his vantage point of an appeal across the states.
Now he has that I took a bullet meme in his favor, a common enemy unites even when people weren't going to bother with him again even the REP voters would decline now he might capture those people for their party under fire, etc. There's a story to sell now, it always helps some to have some theme on multiple levels.
The whole Tik Tok meme they are dredging up for Kamila seems weak and a stretch to me, someone else will have to tell if that honestly is going to garner any votes in an otherwise 'boring' election for that youngest voting demographic.
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It is incredibly telling that the media is trying to push this narrative that Harris is beating Trump in the polls while gambling markets are overwhelming telling a different story. Maybe we need to start gambling on all the news events so we can actually get some truth instead of the media pushing their agenda.
Though, you are to be aware polls and the betting markets are two completely different ways to try to measure the possibilities a candidate has to win an election. Classical polls are mostly about what people say and what they think, while betting markets id about people putting money when their thoughts/opinions are.
It is very subjective on which market or poll is more reliable to predict the future, as it stands It depends on whether one gives more credit to what people say or one gives more credit on where people out their money on.
It is easier to assume betting markets are more reliable to forecast results, as one can way anything about a candidate, but it is different from having a stake on a candidate or not.
It is incredibly telling that the media is trying to push this narrative that Harris is beating Trump in the polls while gambling markets are overwhelming telling a different story. Maybe we need to start gambling on all the news events so we can actually get some truth instead of the media pushing their agenda.
I don't think Harris has a chance against Trump, the elections ara around the corner and the change from Biden to Harris was some days ago, so, she don't have time at all to do a proper campaign.
I would say trump is a secure bet on this one, and the, x1. 5 isn't bad at all, the only risk about betting from now is the fact that someone want him dead. The fact that they fail on the first atempt doesn't mean they will not try it again.
I would say trump is a secure bet on this one, and the, x1. 5 isn't bad at all, the only risk about betting from now is the fact that someone want him dead. The fact that they fail on the first atempt doesn't mean they will not try it again.
And then we have the US Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigning this her post because of the failed security on Trump during his speech. Just too bad that she is being grilled and all accountability pointed to here.
In any case, I still Trump is going to win even if Biden steps down and hand it over to Kamala Harris. And most likely, I'm seeing Trump maintaining the same lead with 2-3 points going into the election this November. It could be really huge if we will have a US President as pro-crypto.
I don't think Harris has a chance against Trump, the elections ara around the corner and the change from Biden to Harris was some days ago, so, she don't have time at all to do a proper campaign.
I would say trump is a secure bet on this one, and the, x1. 5 isn't bad at all, the only risk about betting from now is the fact that someone want him dead. The fact that they fail on the first atempt doesn't mean they will not try it again.
I would say trump is a secure bet on this one, and the, x1. 5 isn't bad at all, the only risk about betting from now is the fact that someone want him dead. The fact that they fail on the first atempt doesn't mean they will not try it again.
Now that Kamala Harris has been confirmed as the POTUS nominee from the Democrat Party, we have numerous opinion polls measuring her chances against that of Donald Trump. Morning Consult, CNN, Economist/YouGov, NPR/PBS/Marist and Yahoo News have released their poll result in recent days. And do you know what is common with all of them? Trump is leading Kamala by a big margin. And then we have the outlier poll from Reuters/Ipsos, which shows Kamala Harris ahead by 2 points.
Reports say that it didn't change a thing, Harris is like 2-3 points behind, same when Biden was still the candidate against Trump. Donald Trump has already put a good lead with the assassination attempt and then his supposedly pro-Bitcoin stance.
There are loyal people who will surely vote for Kamala Harris and they don't change their decision when the nominee switch from Biden to Harris. The difference only comes from swing voters who need to be convinced by both Trump and Harris. They will decide the winner between two nominee and choice from Harris for her VP, if she is elected, will be a person who can help her to convince Swing voters in only next several months.Quote
So for us and the bookies, Donald J. Trump is still the leading candidate to win the US election and it's going to be hard pressed for Kamala Harris to overtake Trump as this point. But then again, we really can't tell, lots of things can happen leading up to the election. But so far Trump will just have to protect the lead or even stretch it out.
With too short time left, Harris has burden of jobs to complete for her propaganda and with possible disadvantage from four years of the current term, she will struggle to convince swing voters. Trump in theory can be a favorite nominee with many people who want to see big changes in the country next four years.Not so much of a struggle based on these odds.
Trump, Donald 1.53
Harris, Kamala 2.60
https://stake.com/sports/outright/politics-entertainment/politics/us-presidential-election-2020/41683725-us-presidential-election-2020
Before Kamala, Trump was like 1.35 which means, he could be losing some of his followers after Biden gave the seat to Kamala. So this isn't just strategic to the Democrats but it could likely make them win if promoted well. They only need a huge mistake from Trump or they could manufacture it to stain Trump. Its politics, its always dirty.
Yeah, it could be strategic and for sure Biden knows that he has a slim chance against Trump. But the numbers don't like, Trump is still way ahead, as I have said, 2 points in already big in US presidential election.
So I'm not surprised by the numbers, even if there is a slight change, and I don't see that there will be swing votes to favor Harris. However, Kamala has still time left for him to convince some voters for her, it's a long shot and for sure she is willing to take that in the coming weeks and come up with a good agenda.
Well, they can't be this confident in winning since the people who donate to Biden are now going to support Harris. Harris gathered $60M in a few days of her candidacy.
And if the numbers are closer there will be doubts to people who supported Harris which the Jan 6 could really be real this time when the other party isn't going to concede.
And this is probably going to be the start of that Civil War they are trying to cook when the votes are just less than 50k votes of margin.
Is the Trump supporter just going to let Kamala take the auth?
Or will the Liberal supporters going to let allow Trump to rule? They've already been saying Trump is a threat to the democracy.
This election has to have a result of wide margin otherwise, things could escalate quickly.
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I don't think you are getting the point, no one is comparing candidates but maintained he should be gentle with Biden in his comment Besides, he never talked about his chosen candidacy, and perhaps he is even supporting the Democrats, so it wasn't the issue. Except that he believed Biden wasn't fit for the position which I agree with partially but also advised caution about the health and other rebukes.Talking about Biden's record, it can't be inappropriate to accord respect to this man as I demanded, and if I may ask, how many candidates have decades of US service in various capacities like him? I don't suppose you mean Trump while talking about serving the country, Biden had served way more, you can't compare. Regardless, this doesn't warrant disrespect to anyone, especially using their health.
It just that Biden is an old man who has really devoted most of his life to his country, I admit that and I quite applaud what Biden has done so far even though during his leadership there were several problems or conflicts related to his policies.
What is clear for sure is that of all the candidates who have previously shown that Biden and Trump are the two strongest figures who have truly given themselves lot to the US, no one has surpassed them in the ranks of candidates for this election, but unfortunately Biden had to resign.
I just saw it, the chances of everyone who will compete in the election later and Kamala Harris has taken Biden place quite superiorly, even though she can't match or surpass Trump chances, but at least she shows what good chance.
I think both will remain like this until election day arrives.
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
I view this as too harsh on Biden, especially on someone's health challenge. Biden is an honourable guy who has served his country excellently in many capacities, he deserves respect. Mind you, just because he can't express himself like before doesn't mean that everyone is suddenly better than him. Expression is a thing, and action is another, he can't suddenly forget all the vast experience he has gathered in the decades of service.Also, Harris is a good choice for the Democrats. I've not seen anyone who is as popular as her and being a woman of colour is an added advantage. I only hope the Yankees will vote for a woman to rule them.
Talking about Biden's record, it can't be inappropriate to accord respect to this man as I demanded, and if I may ask, how many candidates have decades of US service in various capacities like him? I don't suppose you mean Trump while talking about serving the country, Biden had served way more, you can't compare. Regardless, this doesn't warrant disrespect to anyone, especially using their health.
Reports say that it didn't change a thing, Harris is like 2-3 points behind, same when Biden was still the candidate against Trump. Donald Trump has already put a good lead with the assassination attempt and then his supposedly pro-Bitcoin stance.
There are loyal people who will surely vote for Kamala Harris and they don't change their decision when the nominee switch from Biden to Harris. The difference only comes from swing voters who need to be convinced by both Trump and Harris. They will decide the winner between two nominee and choice from Harris for her VP, if she is elected, will be a person who can help her to convince Swing voters in only next several months.Quote
So for us and the bookies, Donald J. Trump is still the leading candidate to win the US election and it's going to be hard pressed for Kamala Harris to overtake Trump as this point. But then again, we really can't tell, lots of things can happen leading up to the election. But so far Trump will just have to protect the lead or even stretch it out.
With too short time left, Harris has burden of jobs to complete for her propaganda and with possible disadvantage from four years of the current term, she will struggle to convince swing voters. Trump in theory can be a favorite nominee with many people who want to see big changes in the country next four years.Not so much of a struggle based on these odds.
Trump, Donald 1.53
Harris, Kamala 2.60
https://stake.com/sports/outright/politics-entertainment/politics/us-presidential-election-2020/41683725-us-presidential-election-2020
Before Kamala, Trump was like 1.35 which means, he could be losing some of his followers after Biden gave the seat to Kamala. So this isn't just strategic to the Democrats but it could likely make them win if promoted well. They only need a huge mistake from Trump or they could manufacture it to stain Trump. Its politics, its always dirty.
Yeah, it could be strategic and for sure Biden knows that he has a slim chance against Trump. But the numbers don't like, Trump is still way ahead, as I have said, 2 points in already big in US presidential election.
So I'm not surprised by the numbers, even if there is a slight change, and I don't see that there will be swing votes to favor Harris. However, Kamala has still time left for him to convince some voters for her, it's a long shot and for sure she is willing to take that in the coming weeks and come up with a good agenda.
Not so much of a struggle based on these odds.
Trump, Donald 1.53
Harris, Kamala 2.60
https://stake.com/sports/outright/politics-entertainment/politics/us-presidential-election-2020/41683725-us-presidential-election-2020
Before Kamala, Trump was like 1.35 which means, he could be losing some of his followers after Biden gave the seat to Kamala. So this isn't just strategic to the Democrats but it could likely make them win if promoted well. They only need a huge mistake from Trump or they could manufacture it to stain Trump. Its politics, its always dirty.
Trump, Donald 1.53
Harris, Kamala 2.60
https://stake.com/sports/outright/politics-entertainment/politics/us-presidential-election-2020/41683725-us-presidential-election-2020
Before Kamala, Trump was like 1.35 which means, he could be losing some of his followers after Biden gave the seat to Kamala. So this isn't just strategic to the Democrats but it could likely make them win if promoted well. They only need a huge mistake from Trump or they could manufacture it to stain Trump. Its politics, its always dirty.
I don't agree with these odds. As I have said before, all the gambling sites seems to be underestimating Trump. With less than 4 months to go, he is leading even in blue states such as New Mexico and Virginia. This election is going to be a landslide in favor of Trump. In Michigan, Trump is leading by a massive 7 points according to Detroit Free Press/EPIC-MRA. Can you believe this? And then we have odds of 1.53. I would rather say that the real odds are more like 1.20 or 1.25.
Reports say that it didn't change a thing, Harris is like 2-3 points behind, same when Biden was still the candidate against Trump. Donald Trump has already put a good lead with the assassination attempt and then his supposedly pro-Bitcoin stance.
There are loyal people who will surely vote for Kamala Harris and they don't change their decision when the nominee switch from Biden to Harris. The difference only comes from swing voters who need to be convinced by both Trump and Harris. They will decide the winner between two nominee and choice from Harris for her VP, if she is elected, will be a person who can help her to convince Swing voters in only next several months.Quote
So for us and the bookies, Donald J. Trump is still the leading candidate to win the US election and it's going to be hard pressed for Kamala Harris to overtake Trump as this point. But then again, we really can't tell, lots of things can happen leading up to the election. But so far Trump will just have to protect the lead or even stretch it out.
With too short time left, Harris has burden of jobs to complete for her propaganda and with possible disadvantage from four years of the current term, she will struggle to convince swing voters. Trump in theory can be a favorite nominee with many people who want to see big changes in the country next four years.Not so much of a struggle based on these odds.
Trump, Donald 1.53
Harris, Kamala 2.60
https://stake.com/sports/outright/politics-entertainment/politics/us-presidential-election-2020/41683725-us-presidential-election-2020
Before Kamala, Trump was like 1.35 which means, he could be losing some of his followers after Biden gave the seat to Kamala. So this isn't just strategic to the Democrats but it could likely make them win if promoted well. They only need a huge mistake from Trump or they could manufacture it to stain Trump. Its politics, its always dirty.
Reports say that it didn't change a thing, Harris is like 2-3 points behind, same when Biden was still the candidate against Trump. Donald Trump has already put a good lead with the assassination attempt and then his supposedly pro-Bitcoin stance.
There are loyal people who will surely vote for Kamala Harris and they don't change their decision when the nominee switch from Biden to Harris. The difference only comes from swing voters who need to be convinced by both Trump and Harris. They will decide the winner between two nominee and choice from Harris for her VP, if she is elected, will be a person who can help her to convince Swing voters in only next several months.Quote
So for us and the bookies, Donald J. Trump is still the leading candidate to win the US election and it's going to be hard pressed for Kamala Harris to overtake Trump as this point. But then again, we really can't tell, lots of things can happen leading up to the election. But so far Trump will just have to protect the lead or even stretch it out.
With too short time left, Harris has burden of jobs to complete for her propaganda and with possible disadvantage from four years of the current term, she will struggle to convince swing voters. Trump in theory can be a favorite nominee with many people who want to see big changes in the country next four years. Harris I think has enough to get the democratic bid. I don't know if that's the right choice and feel like it's a hail Mary from the democrats. They saw the writing on the wall and knew Joe couldn't beat Trump and last another 4 years in this position. I'm happy he is stepping down, he shoukd be able to enjoy the rest of his life in peace. In terms of betting what are the current odds on Trump winning the whole thing?
I thought the whole assassination attempt on Trump swang the pendulum in his favour and with the news of Biden finally stepping down am not sure if Kamala Harris can deliver the win over Donald's popularity... And without discrimination on who wins what, is the USA ready for a female POTUS 
IMHO I don't think so!! Biden stepping down could have just handed over a power change in Trumps favour but it would be nice to see what the bookies think.
Reports say that it didn't change a thing, Harris is like 2-3 points behind, same when Biden was still the candidate against Trump. Donald Trump has already put a good lead with the assassination attempt and then his supposedly pro-Bitcoin stance.
So for us and the bookies, Donald J. Trump is still the leading candidate to win the US election and it's going to be hard pressed for Kamala Harris to overtake Trump as this point. But then again, we really can't tell, lots of things can happen leading up to the election. But so far Trump will just have to protect the lead or even stretch it out.
In the last 35 years, only one republican president won the popular vote for once, which was Bush in 2004, which required the 9/11 attacks and Iraq war to make him president again, aside from that, last one was in 88, meaning it's been 35 years since then, and only once republicans won the popular vote.
That should tell you about how the electoral voting system is important in the USA, if it wasn't and if the popular vote won, then we would have democrat president for the past 35 years, instead, we had bush won one without popular, and trump won as well, aside from that it was Clinton, and Obama and now Biden as well. The movement of USA is going a bit more "left" while the parties move a little bit more to the right.
I do see that it is not the time of Ronald Reagan era, where republicans are clearly the winners, I can see that democrats are a lot more, and if this keeps going, we may actually see a democrat run nation forever, while I do like that party over republicans, I would say that is still dangerous for a nation. Maybe that is why republicans are getting more radical, they are not seeing results being a centrist, so they are trying to make sure that they can get everyone to vote by being radicalized.
That should tell you about how the electoral voting system is important in the USA, if it wasn't and if the popular vote won, then we would have democrat president for the past 35 years, instead, we had bush won one without popular, and trump won as well, aside from that it was Clinton, and Obama and now Biden as well. The movement of USA is going a bit more "left" while the parties move a little bit more to the right.
I do see that it is not the time of Ronald Reagan era, where republicans are clearly the winners, I can see that democrats are a lot more, and if this keeps going, we may actually see a democrat run nation forever, while I do like that party over republicans, I would say that is still dangerous for a nation. Maybe that is why republicans are getting more radical, they are not seeing results being a centrist, so they are trying to make sure that they can get everyone to vote by being radicalized.
Harris I think has enough to get the democratic bid. I don't know if that's the right choice and feel like it's a hail Mary from the democrats. They saw the writing on the wall and knew Joe couldn't beat Trump and last another 4 years in this position. I'm happy he is stepping down, he shoukd be able to enjoy the rest of his life in peace. In terms of betting what are the current odds on Trump winning the whole thing?
I thought the whole assassination attempt on Trump swang the pendulum in his favour and with the news of Biden finally stepping down am not sure if Kamala Harris can deliver the win over Donald's popularity... And without discrimination on who wins what, is the USA ready for a female POTUS IMHO I don't think so!! Biden stepping down could have just handed over a power change in Trumps favour but it would be nice to see what the bookies think.
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
Hillary was a woman and still didn't manage to get those votes, I have a feeling that when sending a female candidate you also need to send the exact type based on the the votes you didn't get previously, and with the US being so different, I have doubts how many of the non-voters she will be able to influence, especially in the states where the Dems are currently losing.
Biden was going to lose, the Democrats have got a second chance, but I have the impression they are wasting it!
Anyhow,
1.03 Kamala Harris, so it's almost settled!
As for VP:
2.4 Josh Shapiro
4.0 Roy Cooper
6.0 Mark Kelly
7.0 Andy Beshear
10.0 Pete Buttigieg
Probably aside from Buttigieg the rest are unknown for 99.9% of everyone outside the US.
Harris I think has enough to get the democratic bid. I don't know if that's the right choice and feel like it's a hail Mary from the democrats. They saw the writing on the wall and knew Joe couldn't beat Trump and last another 4 years in this position. I'm happy he is stepping down, he shoukd be able to enjoy the rest of his life in peace. In terms of betting what are the current odds on Trump winning the whole thing?
Also, why would you blame Hamas? Blame the reaction of the Biden administration. They are sending billions in Ukraine and Israel while the people in their country are going through financial hardships? This is very head shaking.
Good question. I was having a discussion on one of the platforms about this topic and thought it would be useful to share some thoughts here.
Regarding the American position on the war in Gaza and the rate of change after the presidential elections, it is noticeable that there is not much hope that Trump will contribute to salvaging the situation a little if he wins the elections, because we have not witnessed a change in the American policy that is absolutely supportive of Israel since its declaration as a state. But Trump can use this war as a pressure card in the elections to mobilize more voters, especially those who oppose the war, as Biden cannot deny his policy of supporting Israel.
Amid his electoral battle, Trump seemed contradictory in his statements. During an interview he gave to Fox News early last March, he expressed his support for the war launched by Israel on the Gaza Strip, only to return later, at the end of the same month, and say that Israel is losing international support and must end the war. But what is noteworthy is that Trump's few statements on this matter have sometimes been against the war, or rather against the Netanyahu government, while the White House was moving to persuade Israel to reach a solution to stop the war.
In fact, Trump has revealed little about his views on the Gaza war, from the possibility of a ceasefire to what might happen when the fighting stops. In his statements, Trump always links Israel's right to defend itself with his talk about peace in the region, but his campaign team does not yet see any reason for him to greatly address the war in Gaza, despite the decline in support among Democrats for Biden due to his strongly supportive position. to Israel and its failure to achieve a ceasefire.
This is not the kind of thought to first come to mind with his choice of a vice president who cares about war even in Asia. If Vance is leaning toward suppressing China as a rising empire then NATO is with him especially when NATO is trying to expand members from Asia.
This only makes the US not so united when its President is anti-war and his vice is pro-war. This is the kind of scenario in the 3rd world countries.
This confirms my position on what I see. There is a duality in Trump's speech that can only be explained within the framework of his electoral campaign to garner the largest possible number of votes. We know very well that the popular position does not completely agree with the position of the American administration, and there is popular pressure on the administration to stop supporting Israel and speed up finding a solution between the two parties to the conflict, and this is the point that Trump uses as if he supports the popular position until reaching power. Whether Trump or all members of his administration will not be against Israel or stop support, but they need double standards during the electoral stage. The same applies to crypto support.
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
Hillary was a woman and still didn't manage to get those votes, I have a feeling that when sending a female candidate you also need to send the exact type based on the the votes you didn't get previously, and with the US being so different, I have doubts how many of the non-voters she will be able to influence, especially in the states where the Dems are currently losing.
Biden was going to lose, the Democrats have got a second chance, but I have the impression they are wasting it!
Anyhow,
1.03 Kamala Harris, so it's almost settled!
As for VP:
2.4 Josh Shapiro
4.0 Roy Cooper
6.0 Mark Kelly
7.0 Andy Beshear
10.0 Pete Buttigieg
Probably aside from Buttigieg the rest are unknown for 99.9% of everyone outside the US.
Biden didn't have a choice but to endorse Harris. From my understanding, if he had chosen anyone but her, that would have caused a major uproar in the Black community and 100% lost the Dems the presidency. Endorsing Harris avoids the uprising and keeps them in the race although IMO I feel like Trump has this in the bag.
I had not seen it from that perspective, to be honest. He could still saved his endorsement by saying nothing and just move on or perhaps even endorsing a black person within the democratic party for the seat of the presidency, If I recall correctly there is a famous enough black person who represents the democrat party as a senate member. I just don't recall his name right now.
I also feel Trump has much advantage in this race, to be honest, and that is why I feel it would not be one hundred percent right for their party to nominate Harris. One thing is what Biden says and a completely different one is what the party says, if they somehow managed to nominate a young white man who happens to be liberal enough as well, then it would help much in terms of getting more votes. But that is just my opinion.
As time passes by, this election only gets more unprecedented...
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