Everyone was sure that Biden would lose the elections, so they made the right decision and put Harris in the race. For the Democrats, at least, hopes have risen for now.
I think Trump will win this election because he has a very good hand.
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Biden didn't have a choice but to endorse Harris. From my understanding, if he had chosen anyone but her, that would have caused a major uproar in the Black community and 100% lost the Dems the presidency. Endorsing Harris avoids the uprising and keeps them in the race although IMO I feel like Trump has this in the bag.
It wasn’t exactly a bad decision and I think it’s one of the best thing he did for himself, having to look above any selfish desires or need to hold power. Picking Harris to contest with Trump ensures another type of sentiment to be considered by citizens although, I don’t seem to find Harris as a worthy competition for Trump? Don’t you think…
Trump might as well have less turbulence to a victorious poll from the way I see it. What would be the odds now, really low I imagine and that be for Trump to emerge victorious.
He left due to pressure from the political party and his government partners, it wasn't of his own free will... these guys are addicted to being in power, it's like something that doesn't involve money anymore but influences people... I would like to know how the trump vs biden bets will be... will they be transferred to the new candidate?
Biden didn't have a choice but to endorse Harris. From my understanding, if he had chosen anyone but her, that would have caused a major uproar in the Black community and 100% lost the Dems the presidency. Endorsing Harris avoids the uprising and keeps them in the race although IMO I feel like Trump has this in the bag.
Well most of the indicators are pointing to the fact that trump now have got a whole lot of chances to win but every measures should still be taken to maintain that chance because you cannot just undermine the black community that will be supporting Harris, they have got a significant community especially in the fact that they also got a stance in the decider states so its not over until it is and so trump if he must win, he cant afford to do any less at this point in time. Biden didn't have a choice but to endorse Harris. From my understanding, if he had chosen anyone but her, that would have caused a major uproar in the Black community and 100% lost the Dems the presidency. Endorsing Harris avoids the uprising and keeps them in the race although IMO I feel like Trump has this in the bag.
It wasn’t exactly a bad decision and I think it’s one of the best thing he did for himself, having to look above any selfish desires or need to hold power. Picking Harris to contest with Trump ensures another type of sentiment to be considered by citizens although, I don’t seem to find Harris as a worthy competition for Trump? Don’t you think…
Trump might as well have less turbulence to a victorious poll from the way I see it. What would be the odds now, really low I imagine and that be for Trump to emerge victorious.
Of course, the fact that Joe Biden refused to participate in the elections is the right decision for Biden himself and for his family and for the Democratic Party in general and especially for the United States. Still, the Democrats realized that with such a president they were rapidly losing popularity. A person with elements of dementia should not serve as President of the United States. And I think Kamalla Harris is the Democrats' best choice. If a black woman occupies the presidency of the United States for the first time, it will be a very politically correct thing. No one will be able to speak so convincingly about discrimination against women and African Americans in the United States. Besides, I think Trump is greatly underestimating his opponent. However, I would like to wish them both good luck. Let the voter make his choice.
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Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harrihttp://s can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
I view this as too harsh on Biden, especially on someone's health challenge. Biden is an honourable guy who has served his country excellently in many capacities, he deserves respect. Mind you, just because he can't express himself like before doesn't mean that everyone is suddenly better than him. Expression is a thing, and action is another, he can't suddenly forget all the vast experience he has gathered in the decades of service.Also, Harris is a good choice for the Democrats. I've not seen anyone who is as popular as her and being a woman of colour is an added advantage. I only hope the Yankees will vote for a woman to rule them.
It feels good to note that, Democrats now have a vibrant, intelligent, and brave woman to go heads on with Trump on the election debate. Americans would then decide whose candidate has a better plan for the country, that is worth their voting for, as the American president in the November election
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
Democrats made the right decision to force Joe Biden to step aside because he would have lost the election. Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton and now he has to face another female. I don't know how she would be able to convince voters that she is strong enough to handle what many consider a man's job. She would get block votes from the minorities who see Trump as anti-immigration and a racist but she has more work to do. She would have to recover the grounds Biden has lost in many major battlegrounds. I believe Trump has the upper hand since he has strong backing from the white majority and the core evangelicals. I would have bet on Trump if Biden was the democratic candidate, but I have it observe the campaigns and polls because Kamala Harris is a better candidate. 
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
I view this as too harsh on Biden, especially on someone's health challenge. Biden is an honourable guy who has served his country excellently in many capacities, he deserves respect. Mind you, just because he can't express himself like before doesn't mean that everyone is suddenly better than him. Expression is a thing, and action is another, he can't suddenly forget all the vast experience he has gathered in the decades of service.Also, Harris is a good choice for the Democrats. I've not seen anyone who is as popular as her and being a woman of colour is an added advantage. I only hope the Yankees will vote for a woman to rule them.
Biden is 81 years old and this is not a fit age to be able to lead the country in the future if he wins the election, moreover we all know that what Biden does with all his decisions is done with the aim of the interests of the country and his party.
After Biden decision and which caused lot of discussion, there is indeed support for Kamala Harris to be the candidate that will be put forward by the Democratic Party in the 2024 elections, but that is not guarantee.
I sure the members of the Democratic National Committee will hold special meetings to determine who they really deserve to be able to choose, but of all the people who could potentially run for office, it still seems like Kamala Harris is the best.
If there was ever a path for Rep win, full redemption arc from Trump conviction to shaking it off this is it. In my mind all they did to Biden in 2024 was a repeat of the trick they pulled on him in 2016 and funnily enough its going to result in the same way with a Trump win.
In 2016 they refused to back the most logical choice, the VP and Biden would have won in 2016 imo and would just this year be finishing his 2nd term. Though I will concede it could mean the 2020 election was lost because of the recession etc. But yep to me its a repeat.
Biden and his administration cause a lot of disappointment and maybe angry in the nation so citizens do see that they need a big change. Now Biden steps aside, that is a big twist for the President Election but is it too late for Kamala Harris to do her own propaganda and get votes.In 2016 they refused to back the most logical choice, the VP and Biden would have won in 2016 imo and would just this year be finishing his 2nd term. Though I will concede it could mean the 2020 election was lost because of the recession etc. But yep to me its a repeat.
She did not have an impressive Vice Presidency in the last four years and her role now does not benefit her position in the election after taking over the nominee role from Biden.
I agree with you that Trump and Rep Party are nearly set to win this election. It is early to say they will be winners certainly but I see very small chances for Kamala Harris and Democrats Party to beat Trump next four months.
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
I view this as too harsh on Biden, especially on someone's health challenge. Biden is an honourable guy who has served his country excellently in many capacities, he deserves respect. Mind you, just because he can't express himself like before doesn't mean that everyone is suddenly better than him. Expression is a thing, and action is another, he can't suddenly forget all the vast experience he has gathered in the decades of service.Also, Harris is a good choice for the Democrats. I've not seen anyone who is as popular as her and being a woman of colour is an added advantage. I only hope the Yankees will vote for a woman to rule them.
I may not agree to the excellent word for running their country since I guess he's past performance make Americans to decide that they need to have a new President. If he did strong remarks on his term then provably that there are still lots of Biden supporter and we maybe can see his ratings still going up even if Trump is there. But guess he messed up and didn't meet the expectation of people that's why Trump take advantage with that and now he's gaining a lot of support.
But still he deserve a respect since he's still honorable guy which once lead their country. Also he's still a great politician despite of whatever happen on his term. Harris indeed a good choice by Democrats but for now its not a good timing for him to insert since Trump dominate the current race.
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
I view this as too harsh on Biden, especially on someone's health challenge. Biden is an honourable guy who has served his country excellently in many capacities, he deserves respect. Mind you, just because he can't express himself like before doesn't mean that everyone is suddenly better than him. Expression is a thing, and action is another, he can't suddenly forget all the vast experience he has gathered in the decades of service.Also, Harris is a good choice for the Democrats. I've not seen anyone who is as popular as her and being a woman of colour is an added advantage. I only hope the Yankees will vote for a woman to rule them.
If there was ever a path for Rep win, full redemption arc from Trump conviction to shaking it off this is it. In my mind all they did to Biden in 2024 was a repeat of the trick they pulled on him in 2016 and funnily enough its going to result in the same way with a Trump win.
In 2016 they refused to back the most logical choice, the VP and Biden would have won in 2016 imo and would just this year be finishing his 2nd term. Though I will concede it could mean the 2020 election was lost because of the recession etc. But yep to me its a repeat.
In 2016 they refused to back the most logical choice, the VP and Biden would have won in 2016 imo and would just this year be finishing his 2nd term. Though I will concede it could mean the 2020 election was lost because of the recession etc. But yep to me its a repeat.
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia.
With his long political career and his very high age now, it's time for him to retire as a President and as politician. It is not good for himself to try to engage with one of most stressful positions on this planet. He should retire as many elderly do and don't try to bind himself with a powerful position and thinking like he must continue it to save the country.Other people can do it better than Biden if he steps down, which he announced to do hours ago. Kamala Harris can bring more energy and smoothness for the President Election this year and she might fail but she is a better representative for the Democratic Party in this competition against Trump and Republican Party.
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I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote.
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I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
It's a year for Trump as I see very few signals that can make him fails in this Election. 
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
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To be fair, endorsing Kamala Harris is the second most democratic thing Joe Biden could had done when dropping out the race, to be honest. I say it because (to some extent) people actually voter for both him and Kamala to be the head of the party in these incoming elections, so it is not like Biden went off the rails and endorsed someone who was not already on the ticket and people voted for. The first most democratic thing Biden could had done was calling for a convention or an open inner election/primaries within the democrat party, so the people could choose their candidate.
I don't want to be a killjoy for those who like Harris as a candidate, but I believe the United States is not ready at all yet to choose a brown woman as their president. If Kamala ends up being the selected candidate, then Trump is still very likely to win this race with a good margin...
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To be fair, endorsing Kamala Harris is the second most democratic thing Joe Biden could had done when dropping out the race, to be honest. I say it because (to some extent) people actually voter for both him and Kamala to be the head of the party in these incoming elections, so it is not like Biden went off the rails and endorsed someone who was not already on the ticket and people voted for. The first most democratic thing Biden could had done was calling for a convention or an open inner election/primaries within the democrat party, so the people could choose their candidate.
I don't want to be a killjoy for those who like Harris as a candidate, but I believe the United States is not ready at all yet to choose a brown woman as their president. If Kamala ends up being the selected candidate, then Trump is still very likely to win this race with a good margin...
That's because democracy and elections are all about populism. Trump is hugely popular among people and it is because he knows how to attract people's attention. Not just Trump, every politician promises prosperity, wealth, higher wages, better social security, better education, better security... That has been the game since the Roman Republic...
Sometimes, a mishap could turn out to be a blessing in ten folds for anyone at all.... Trump was shot few days ago and that has increased his popularity and the whole US-based attention is focused on him. I don't think it was the case prior to the incident; for the fact that they plotted a coup to eliminate him and it was unsuccessful should teach everyone a lesson and prove to them that there's a high chance of having him taking over the position again..And there it is biden us out. Wonder how the books deal with this. Do the bets on Joe get returned since he is official a "dnp"? Dems know they are weak right now I can't see trump not winning now. There is only a couple months to go, no clue how they get momentum in swing states.
Joe isn't gonna return and that's it... Why does it feel like he's pulling out because he doesn't wanna be labeled an allegation over the uninvestigated crime? Why?.. I mean, am I just being too paranoid or something?? 
They return money on a Biden bet ? really, I figured a withdrawal, poor health, death any reason is a lost bet. Or maybe specific terms is going to protect people because it happened early not after the official nomination like Trump just got.
I honestly favor Rep to win this election at this point, I dont think they should have forced Biden out despite appearances. My other thought is Biden has covid and is seriously in bad health hence he changed his mind on continuing. The recent iterations of covid are not as serious as 2020 but I presume due to old age its a possible scenario.
Im not against Kamala btw, Im not for or against any of the candidates especially thats not how bets are won. My very blunt judgement goes with just how well known they are, years in the job, momentum. Something as 'simple' as writing a book probably puts Vance ahead for example as we saw in '08 with Obama
I honestly favor Rep to win this election at this point, I dont think they should have forced Biden out despite appearances. My other thought is Biden has covid and is seriously in bad health hence he changed his mind on continuing. The recent iterations of covid are not as serious as 2020 but I presume due to old age its a possible scenario.
Im not against Kamala btw, Im not for or against any of the candidates especially thats not how bets are won. My very blunt judgement goes with just how well known they are, years in the job, momentum. Something as 'simple' as writing a book probably puts Vance ahead for example as we saw in '08 with Obama
Though he contracted Covid, but I don't think that's the strong reason why he is getting out of this presidential race. It is more on his competency to hold the office. And it is how he will perform as a high-ranking official in the eyes of public. Just like how he did in the Presidential debate. Time to retire and enjoy the remaining days of his life. No need to stress himself with this big responsibility.
He already announced his withdrawal from this campaign, so the bookies should really return the money on Biden's bet.
Source: How Joe Biden's Family Reacted to Him Dropping Out
They return money on a Biden bet ? really, I figured a withdrawal, poor health, death any reason is a lost bet. Or maybe specific terms is going to protect people because it happened early not after the official nomination like Trump just got.
I honestly favor Rep to win this election at this point, I dont think they should have forced Biden out despite appearances. My other thought is Biden has covid and is seriously in bad health hence he changed his mind on continuing. The recent iterations of covid are not as serious as 2020 but I presume due to old age its a possible scenario.
Im not against Kamala btw, Im not for or against any of the candidates especially thats not how bets are won. My very blunt judgement goes with just how well known they are, years in the job, momentum. Something as 'simple' as writing a book probably puts Vance ahead for example as we saw in '08 with Obama
I honestly favor Rep to win this election at this point, I dont think they should have forced Biden out despite appearances. My other thought is Biden has covid and is seriously in bad health hence he changed his mind on continuing. The recent iterations of covid are not as serious as 2020 but I presume due to old age its a possible scenario.
Im not against Kamala btw, Im not for or against any of the candidates especially thats not how bets are won. My very blunt judgement goes with just how well known they are, years in the job, momentum. Something as 'simple' as writing a book probably puts Vance ahead for example as we saw in '08 with Obama
Trump had the wind at his back after the recent events and was ahead in the polls. But in my opinion, there was a shocking development and Biden announced that he is withdrawing from the presidential race and will support Kamala Harris. I don't think Harris has a chance in the Trump - Harris contest. America has real problems and none of them matter to Harris. If America wants to achieve the MAGA ideal, it will elect Trump. Even if the odds change, I think Trump is still far ahead in this race.
This change will definitely increase the votes of the democrats. After all, wasn't this what that group wanted? The change of the presidential candidate was and it was expected. I think it would make a small difference, but it doesn't seem like Harris will win. The majority support Trump in the USA, as it is known that the deteriorating economy is one of the biggest reasons. If there are no surprises, Trump will be president. What I wonder is what Trump will be able to do and what he will not be able to do when he becomes president.
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