I can only speculate, but if your shares in the look back window dropped in half in 4 hours and you mine constantly, then I'm guessing it'd only take 8 hours for your score to go to zero. Meaning the full N shares only take 8 hours for the pool to mine. It's only your shares within the last N shares that count for payment.
actually, the PPLNS value dwindled down over time but the outage itself was about 4 hrs. Perhaps the fact that the history is so limited had a significant impact (only started on HHTT about 5-31) 
Topic: [500 GH/s]HHTT -Selected Diff/Stratum/PPLNS/Paid Stales/High Availability/Tor - page 8. (Read 56345 times)
June 04, 2013, 10:29:26 AM
June 04, 2013, 09:45:40 AM
I can only speculate, but if your shares in the look back window dropped in half in 4 hours and you mine constantly, then I'm guessing it'd only take 8 hours for your score to go to zero. Meaning the full N shares only take 8 hours for the pool to mine. It's only your shares within the last N shares that count for payment.
June 04, 2013, 09:34:38 AM
I'd like to know why the PPLNS credit on these asic miners last so long.
My credits were gone in less than a day, yet the top miner still has more than 60% of theirs after the same amount of idle time.
yeah, its pretty bad...lost internet access for 4 hrs was knocked down to .96, from 1.84; as a result lost more than half of what I should have rec'd My credits were gone in less than a day, yet the top miner still has more than 60% of theirs after the same amount of idle time.
June 04, 2013, 09:18:15 AM
I'd like to know why the PPLNS credit on these asic miners last so long.
My credits were gone in less than a day, yet the top miner still has more than 60% of theirs after the same amount of idle time.
My credits were gone in less than a day, yet the top miner still has more than 60% of theirs after the same amount of idle time.
June 04, 2013, 08:21:27 AM
Pool stabilized (as if I did something... 
) and two blocks found as of now for today.
spiccioli
ps. so, stop wondering and point your hashing machines here!
Sorry spiccioli, but that's too simple. ) and two blocks found as of now for today.spiccioli
ps. so, stop wondering and point your hashing machines here!
I want to know how a pool handles its shares and payout and for this pool it's not clear to me, the information on the website is outdated and fireduck is missing in action.
June 04, 2013, 07:30:21 AM
Pool stabilized (as if I did something... ) and two blocks found as of now for today.
spiccioli
ps. so, stop wondering and point your hashing machines here!
) and two blocks found as of now for today.spiccioli
ps. so, stop wondering and point your hashing machines here!
June 03, 2013, 12:58:06 PM
Well, we have lost someone with 8 to 10 Avalons, but given that 2nd batch is made up of 600 units... we should reach around 36 TH/s in the coming weeks 
spiccioli
spiccioli
June 03, 2013, 12:14:34 PM
1 TH/s lost in half a day...
spiccioli
June 03, 2013, 07:32:04 AM
Thanks for your answer spiccioli,
So how this pool calculates what we earn is not written out on the webpage...
I have looked at a few miner pages, on all pages earned equals paid.
This sounds wrong to me, after finding a share, earned should increase.
Too bad fireduck is 800 BTC in the negative. And of course no PPS 'sucker' felt the need to partly refund.
Too bad two big miners decided to leave today, hashing power of 5 Avalons. Or they had a problem, looks like they're back.
I will stay on this pool for a few more days.
I would like to get some more info though.
So how this pool calculates what we earn is not written out on the webpage...
I have looked at a few miner pages, on all pages earned equals paid.
This sounds wrong to me, after finding a share, earned should increase.
Too bad fireduck is 800 BTC in the negative. And of course no PPS 'sucker' felt the need to partly refund.
Too bad two big miners decided to leave today, hashing power of 5 Avalons. Or they had a problem, looks like they're back.
I will stay on this pool for a few more days.
I would like to get some more info though.
BenTuras,
please read here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1812740 and some previous/next messages to see the switch to PPLNS and fireduck own words.
I think that miner pages show a share value as it was with PPS, but now with PPLNS the only value that matters is the one inside "PPLNS Share"'s column and this value reflects the miner's share of a block and depends on miner's hashing power.
spiccioli.
ps. if fireduck could confirm/clarify and/or show where I'm wrong it would be a good thing
June 03, 2013, 05:21:28 AM
Thanks for your answer spiccioli,
So how this pool calculates what we earn is not written out on the webpage...
I have looked at a few miner pages, on all pages earned equals paid.
This sounds wrong to me, after finding a share, earned should increase.
Too bad fireduck is 800 BTC in the negative. And of course no PPS 'sucker' felt the need to partly refund.
Too bad two big miners decided to leave today, hashing power of 5 Avalons. Or they had a problem, looks like they're back.
I will stay on this pool for a few more days.
I would like to get some more info though.
So how this pool calculates what we earn is not written out on the webpage...
I have looked at a few miner pages, on all pages earned equals paid.
This sounds wrong to me, after finding a share, earned should increase.
Too bad fireduck is 800 BTC in the negative. And of course no PPS 'sucker' felt the need to partly refund.
Too bad two big miners decided to leave today, hashing power of 5 Avalons. Or they had a problem, looks like they're back.
I will stay on this pool for a few more days.
I would like to get some more info though.
June 03, 2013, 04:50:59 AM
I am trying to understand the payout of this pool.
Mining Rewards
This pool does Pay-Per-Last-N-Shares (PPLNS) at:
BLOCK_REWARD * (1.0 - FEE) * (1 / difficulty)
The fee is calculated as 0.0025 + (0.0475/pow(share_difficulty,0.6))
The look back for the PPLNS is 2 * network_difficulty
If I chose 128 difficulty, FEE is 0.51%
This is 2x what is shown for a share, so it must be the last sentence that specifies the needed divide by 2 to get the right answer. Can someone explain this look back to me ?
Then the monies on the miner page:
The earned and paid stays the same value, no matter how many shares are found. They only change after a payout. I would expect earned to increase for every new share. Is this intentional or not completely implemented yet ?
Then the pool funds:
Looks like the pool is 800BTC in the negative, is this correct ?
Has someone managed to get hhtt-payout or hhtt-block working via Amazon Services ?
Edit: I will answer the last question myself: It seems that there are no messages send from HHTT to Amazon(NumberOfMessagesPublished=0 on Amazon SNS), hence Amazon can't send out messages...
Mining Rewards
This pool does Pay-Per-Last-N-Shares (PPLNS) at:
BLOCK_REWARD * (1.0 - FEE) * (1 / difficulty)
The fee is calculated as 0.0025 + (0.0475/pow(share_difficulty,0.6))
The look back for the PPLNS is 2 * network_difficulty
If I chose 128 difficulty, FEE is 0.51%
Code:
BLOCK_REWARD 25
FEE 0.51%
difficulty 12153412
PPS 0.0000020466 ฿ x 128 = 0.00026196 ฿
Then the monies on the miner page:
The earned and paid stays the same value, no matter how many shares are found. They only change after a payout. I would expect earned to increase for every new share. Is this intentional or not completely implemented yet ?
Then the pool funds:
Looks like the pool is 800BTC in the negative, is this correct ?
Has someone managed to get hhtt-payout or hhtt-block working via Amazon Services ?
Edit: I will answer the last question myself: It seems that there are no messages send from HHTT to Amazon(NumberOfMessagesPublished=0 on Amazon SNS), hence Amazon can't send out messages...
BenTuras,
this pool went from PPS to PPLNS shortly after the first batch of Avalons went out since PPS was causing it to go bankrupt, in fact the pool, or better, fireduck is in red by 800 BTCs he paid to users (suckers) when this pool was PPS.
I think part of the payout description was never changed.
In the monies table:
Earned: what you earned given found blocks
Paid: how much of your Earned income has already been paid
Owed: how much the pool still owes you
PPLNS Share: your share (how much you're going to earn) of the next block the pool will find.
spiccioli
June 02, 2013, 04:14:14 PM
I am trying to understand the payout of this pool.
Mining Rewards
This pool does Pay-Per-Last-N-Shares (PPLNS) at:
BLOCK_REWARD * (1.0 - FEE) * (1 / difficulty)
The fee is calculated as 0.0025 + (0.0475/pow(share_difficulty,0.6))
The look back for the PPLNS is 2 * network_difficulty
If I chose 128 difficulty, FEE is 0.51%
This is 2x what is shown for a share, so it must be the last sentence that specifies the needed divide by 2 to get the right answer. Can someone explain this look back to me ?
Then the monies on the miner page:
The earned and paid stays the same value, no matter how many shares are found. They only change after a payout. I would expect earned to increase for every new share. Is this intentional or not completely implemented yet ?
Then the pool funds:
Looks like the pool is 800BTC in the negative, is this correct ?
Has someone managed to get hhtt-payout or hhtt-block working via Amazon Services ?
Edit: I will answer the last question myself: It seems that there are no messages send from HHTT to Amazon(NumberOfMessagesPublished=0 on Amazon SNS), hence Amazon can't send out messages...
Mining Rewards
This pool does Pay-Per-Last-N-Shares (PPLNS) at:
BLOCK_REWARD * (1.0 - FEE) * (1 / difficulty)
The fee is calculated as 0.0025 + (0.0475/pow(share_difficulty,0.6))
The look back for the PPLNS is 2 * network_difficulty
If I chose 128 difficulty, FEE is 0.51%
Code:
BLOCK_REWARD 25
FEE 0.51%
difficulty 12153412
PPS 0.0000020466 ฿ x 128 = 0.00026196 ฿
Then the monies on the miner page:
The earned and paid stays the same value, no matter how many shares are found. They only change after a payout. I would expect earned to increase for every new share. Is this intentional or not completely implemented yet ?
Then the pool funds:
Looks like the pool is 800BTC in the negative, is this correct ?
Has someone managed to get hhtt-payout or hhtt-block working via Amazon Services ?
Edit: I will answer the last question myself: It seems that there are no messages send from HHTT to Amazon(NumberOfMessagesPublished=0 on Amazon SNS), hence Amazon can't send out messages...
June 02, 2013, 12:21:20 PM
One point three TH/s !!!
fireduck please update thread title, this pool is growing
fireduck please update thread title, this pool is growing
June 01, 2013, 02:58:52 PM
i just pointed some firepower over there last night...just changed Diff to 512. rates seem more reasonable than say BTC Gld but we'll see how it actually performs
silverserpent,
being a PPLNS pool, it takes at least a day before you see your real payout when a block is found.
Look at your "Last Day MH/s" column value and wait till it reaches your real hashrate.
spiccioli
previous change (Diff to 512) made system unstable, reverted to standard/default 32; any tips?
*I did change to 300 Freq and have been averaging bout 72GH/s. Utility@ 30.64? is that good?
appreciate any feedback
Try using 129 as difficulty, 32 is too low for an Avalon.
spiccioli
June 01, 2013, 01:07:23 AM
i just pointed some firepower over there last night...just changed Diff to 512. rates seem more reasonable than say BTC Gld but we'll see how it actually performs
silverserpent,
being a PPLNS pool, it takes at least a day before you see your real payout when a block is found.
Look at your "Last Day MH/s" column value and wait till it reaches your real hashrate.
spiccioli
previous change (Diff to 512) made system unstable, reverted to standard/default 32; any tips?
*I did change to 300 Freq and have been averaging bout 72GH/s. Utility@ 30.64? is that good?
appreciate any feedback
May 31, 2013, 02:47:21 PM
i just pointed some firepower over there last night...just changed Diff to 512. rates seem more reasonable than say BTC Gld but we'll see how it actually performs
silverserpent,
being a PPLNS pool, it takes at least a day before you see your real payout when a block is found.
Look at your "Last Day MH/s" column value and wait till it reaches your real hashrate.
spiccioli
May 31, 2013, 12:14:11 PM
i just pointed some firepower over there last night...just changed Diff to 512. rates seem more reasonable than say BTC Gld but we'll see how it actually performs
May 31, 2013, 05:05:17 AM
Two blocks today, and the second one was found by fireduck!
Ok, let's see how long it takes to break the 1 TH/s barrier!!
spiccioli
Ok, let's see how long it takes to break the 1 TH/s barrier!!
spiccioli
May 31, 2013, 03:56:16 AM
800 GH/s!!!
Go go go!!
spiccioli
Go go go!!
spiccioli
May 30, 2013, 02:22:13 PM
edit: meh never mind
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