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Quote from: Victorik on December 09, 2021, 12:11:31 AM

The best of the intentions of men is still not good enough because the heart of men is desperately wicked.
Even if Elon Musk donates his entire wealth to solve the hunger problem. It will still fail in achieving this. These monies will only end up enriching a few people who will definitely embezzle these funds.

There must be clear transparency if this is really going to happen.
But indeed bad people will always take advantage of things like this even if their intentions are good but the application will not work properly and as you say, if there is no transparency with this it is tantamount to giving wealth for free to a few people

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The best of the intentions of men is still not good enough because the heart of men is desperately wicked.
Even if Elon Musk donates his entire wealth to solve the hunger problem. It will still fail in achieving this. These monies will only end up enriching a few people who will definitely embezzle these funds.

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If Elon Musk donates 6 billion dollars for this reason it will go a long way to solve the problem of hunger in the world, but as long as the earth remains no matter the amount of money donated towards this purpose, hunger cannot be totally eradicated. Hunger is caused by Bad weather, Disease outbreaks, Pests, War, Falling prices for crops, Rising prices for food and Low wages or unemployment. In other words, if there is any way all what I have mentioned can be solved globally then hunger and be eradicated.

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Quote from: habebe on December 07, 2021, 02:59:49 PM

I don’t think 6 billion is enough to completely solve the hunger and poverty in this world. Unless they see the situation now and the government will probably find a way to solve such difficulties and for long term impact, and I mean the impact will cause it to be solved and can feed many generations there to know after that will be needed. they have a lot more than 6 billion to help make the world hungry.

Wont really be enough because this is a global problem that cant really be just resolved on few billions but at least we do see that there are

still people who do really mind off in regards on this problem and we know that this isnt a small amount which lots would benefit out on
able to eat on a particular day.

Dont know if this is some sort of PR or agenda but we know that it could benefit out.

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I don’t think 6 billion is enough to completely solve the hunger and poverty in this world. Unless they see the situation now and the government will probably find a way to solve such difficulties and for long term impact, and I mean the impact will cause it to be solved and can feed many generations there to know after that will be needed. they have a lot more than 6 billion to help make the world hungry.

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Of course, it wouldn't solve the world hunger problem. It is not a thing that you can do easily. Then, it would already have been solved by now as a money like 6 billion dollars is not too much for even one of the rich people in the world. It is about more than money. Above all else, it is the order of the world I'm afraid. There is always going to be poor and rich people situation.

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I have a feeling, that in general worlds hunger problem is unsolvable. There are regions in the world, that suffer hunger due to their location. And the only way to solve this issue is to either move whole population somewhere, or make such donations temporary and infinite. This would be as same as donation 6 billion to solve covid problem and make vaccine. But covid problem is not about people getting vaccinated. Vaccinated people still get infected and die. Same I see is with hunger, hungry people can be feed, but in a week, month or a year 6 billions will be spent and they will become hungry again. 6 billions is a help, but not a solution.

6 billion is definitely not enough to solve the world hunger, although it’s a big help already but it will not definitely solve the problem. Yes, I agree on you, it can help temporarily but after few days or months, the people will be hungry again. If I were on the position of Elon, I would rather donate funds for livelihood projects so that a lot of people will have their own job and certainly provide foods on their table. This might help for a long term as long as people are not lazy enough. Still, 6 billion can be of great help already so the people should still thank Elon for that, unless he has his own hidden agenda why he’s doing that kind of charity.

I think that money right now would be important as we have the Corona crisis peaking again and there are people around the world without access to vaccines plus they also lack food. As a temporary measure in this specific situation it would most likely be best if a billionaire like Musk just tries to help solve the problem by donating money. He will still be around $300 billion afterwards.
Was the idea that 6 billion solve hunger for everyone in the world? I thought they were talking about a specific area, but not sure though.

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 02, 2021, 03:16:07 AM

Quote from: bakasabo on November 29, 2021, 04:02:36 AM

I have a feeling, that in general worlds hunger problem is unsolvable. There are regions in the world, that suffer hunger due to their location. And the only way to solve this issue is to either move whole population somewhere, or make such donations temporary and infinite. This would be as same as donation 6 billion to solve covid problem and make vaccine. But covid problem is not about people getting vaccinated. Vaccinated people still get infected and die. Same I see is with hunger, hungry people can be feed, but in a week, month or a year 6 billions will be spent and they will become hungry again. 6 billions is a help, but not a solution.

6 billion is definitely not enough to solve the world hunger, although it’s a big help already but it will not definitely solve the problem. Yes, I agree on you, it can help temporarily but after few days or months, the people will be hungry again. If I were on the position of Elon, I would rather donate funds for livelihood projects so that a lot of people will have their own job and certainly provide foods on their table. This might help for a long term as long as people are not lazy enough. Still, 6 billion can be of great help already so the people should still thank Elon for that, unless he has his own hidden agenda why he’s doing that kind of charity.

at least we can appreciate the help given by Elon, even though there is a tendency behind it or not. Such assistance has indeed been very helpful, although it has not been able to eliminate hunger. indeed by helping them to get out of poverty is better, but the donor himself prefers to help hunger, and I think it is his right

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Quote from: bakasabo on November 29, 2021, 04:02:36 AM

I have a feeling, that in general worlds hunger problem is unsolvable. There are regions in the world, that suffer hunger due to their location. And the only way to solve this issue is to either move whole population somewhere, or make such donations temporary and infinite. This would be as same as donation 6 billion to solve covid problem and make vaccine. But covid problem is not about people getting vaccinated. Vaccinated people still get infected and die. Same I see is with hunger, hungry people can be feed, but in a week, month or a year 6 billions will be spent and they will become hungry again. 6 billions is a help, but not a solution.

6 billion is definitely not enough to solve the world hunger, although it’s a big help already but it will not definitely solve the problem. Yes, I agree on you, it can help temporarily but after few days or months, the people will be hungry again. If I were on the position of Elon, I would rather donate funds for livelihood projects so that a lot of people will have their own job and certainly provide foods on their table. This might help for a long term as long as people are not lazy enough. Still, 6 billion can be of great help already so the people should still thank Elon for that, unless he has his own hidden agenda why he’s doing that kind of charity.

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How Elon Musk is even planning to solve hunger issue? Just by buying lots of food for $6 billion? That would solve the problem for couple of days or months. If he plans to direct this money to build an infrastructure that will produce or generate food, than I cant imagine how long will it take till everything starts to give first fruits of success. No doubt it will take years. In several years hunger problem will evolve and $6 billions will not be enough.

Although Elon Musk can do this charity work that is very well received by those most in need, I think they would be making a serious mistake, first people would be getting used to things being given to them, that there is no need to work to eat because a millionaire would feed them, in this case if I am completely in agreement with Donald Trump and Robert Kiyosaki that everyone should learn to fish, but not to give them fish, this will cause people to take refuge only in what they are given , and his own experience living in a country where a ruler gives the lazy everything they need to live, what they achieve is that people are formed without the desire to work and lazily.

You said it right buds! some of those people who will receive this charity work will be used to keep getting this money for free. Instead of providing this kind of charity works its much better to train them how to make money or hire them to work for your business, this is much better for long-term solutions, good compensations that will allow them to send their kids to good school, I view this point as solution permanently and not just for temporal.

Musk can create livelihood where people who he wanted to help can work and have a decent job. With $6B he can establish more business from different sides of the world, especially those places where poverty is really being felt.

Yes, there are many people who want to work, there are also many who are lazy, I believe that the lazy would do them even worse harm, if he generates sources of work it would be a much greater help.

At the moment I live in a country where it is very difficult to have a company, those who have a company have it, it is to help their workers and not leave them without work, if Elon Musk helps those people to capitalize with better production, with material cousin, I think it would be better because it would open new jobs, and that would be a better help

sometimes, people wont glance at lazy person, they will find the other person who want to work more and more. prefer to give hard worker than the lazy, of course the lazy will hard to get job. not only from outside, but also from inside.

the main problem is, no fund to create new job for them. we can say that rich must give opportunity, so they can give the best for their life. sadly, rich have own decision to control it money.

Initially the problem of work exists almost for all countries, in my case I live in a country where industrialization and progress is totally stagnant by a very corrupt government system, therefore job opportunities decrease for the average in general, but When I see the news, in countries that are prosperous with very good economies they also have employment problems, people find it difficult to get jobs, so there lies the main problem that has to do with laziness, in the country where I am the government started giving away food , money, and now many people have got used to the fact that everything has to be given to them and they do not want to work, the truth is that the situation can become very serious.

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Quote from: bakasabo on November 29, 2021, 04:02:36 AM

I have a feeling, that in general worlds hunger problem is unsolvable. There are regions in the world, that suffer hunger due to their location. And the only way to solve this issue is to either move whole population somewhere, or make such donations temporary and infinite. This would be as same as donation 6 billion to solve covid problem and make vaccine. But covid problem is not about people getting vaccinated. Vaccinated people still get infected and die. Same I see is with hunger, hungry people can be feed, but in a week, month or a year 6 billions will be spent and they will become hungry again. 6 billions is a help, but not a solution.

Real areas with critical living conditions - probably about 1-2%, no more. The problem for everyone else - from laziness to habits / traditions / religious characteristics, etc. That is - depending exclusively on the "suffering" themselves. Moreover, the practice of constant "maintenance", for people who were really suffering yesterday, develops today the habit of what someone will think for them, will feed and support them. Until international funds start building industrial facilities for their money and training staff in locations with hunger, instead of simply eating them up, the situation will not only not change, moreover, it will noticeably worsen! The consumers of our help are completely degrading the concept of responsibility, they know that in any case they will be fed, they continue to do nothing, have a huge number of children, and continue to demand that all of them be fed ... And very soon they will become a new weapon of mass destruction " humanitarian terrorism ", some of them are already being used for these purposes

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I have a feeling, that in general worlds hunger problem is unsolvable. There are regions in the world, that suffer hunger due to their location. And the only way to solve this issue is to either move whole population somewhere, or make such donations temporary and infinite. This would be as same as donation 6 billion to solve covid problem and make vaccine. But covid problem is not about people getting vaccinated. Vaccinated people still get infected and die. Same I see is with hunger, hungry people can be feed, but in a week, month or a year 6 billions will be spent and they will become hungry again. 6 billions is a help, but not a solution.

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For me, any amount is a good start of feed the hungry countries and it's just a matter of being a humane in this world to help and feed to people who are hungry. Any world organization cannot rely on one man alone, people should also stand up and raise funds to eradicate world hunger and I know for sure Elon Musk is willing to give a humanitarian funds to feed the hungry.

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Quote from: noorman0 on November 03, 2021, 08:27:51 AM

Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger?
How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective?

I know that capital of Elon Musk is about 340 billion dollars, so 6 billion is really only 2% and if is such a small portion of his money can help a big number of people to overcome hunger, it is great. But actually, I don't think that Elon is a kind person who is altruist. If he helps, he will be in a public eye again, and I think that he just enjoys being in a public attention.

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Quote from: Issa56 on November 24, 2021, 04:05:33 PM

I don't think that can solve world hunger problem, actually it can reduce the amount of hunger in the world but it can't completely eradicate it because I believe some people in some part of the world won't have access to the fund so I believe it can't completely eradicate it because some people wont benefit but I believe it will help lots of people that benefit from it.

Because it cant completely eradicate doesn't mean is not possible, remember it was just a statistical estimations which means the data collected can either be above or a little below. Elon didn't give the estimate, the value tweeted draw his attention and he feel if it's magically possible, he will help.
Haven't you seen how Paris fund was distributed? With proper management, that fund will get to everyone but the question is, is it possible that every country will be that transparent to spend the fund wisely when they are given the chance to do so.
Life is not balance though, it will be very hard to completely eliminate poverty.

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For me, Elon might be selfish in pursuing his own personal financial desires but he has still a selfless heart for the poor people.

Never know the plans of a person/group especially if it is publicly stated. Nowadays, many people with hidden political and business interests take action on the basis of caring for humanity as a mask. By selling company shares means donating on behalf of the company. Sacrificing 2% of wealth in order to grow wider brand awareness is not a problem.

when you look deeper it seems what you are saying is something that makes sense.
let's just see now that news about this is happening everywhere, even in my country, it's crowded about this and many people are praising this even though there has been no real realization.
the plan has just been crowded, especially when the implementation will be how they and the related companies will be cheered for in this regard. in the end they actually only sacrificed a little by getting a lot of advantages and highlights

I guess there's always a hidden agenda in every good thing that is Elon did, and i know we will find it out soon. The fact that he is making sacrifices for now for his own future profits, then all these things are still all about for his own selfish desire.

I think Elon does not only manipulate the crypto market, but he is also capable to deceive the crowd through his own mask. He might win this game for now, but i know karma will eventually work for him in the future.

I don't know how much Elon Musk's goodwill is, but what I am clear about is that this is not the real solution to the problem in question, we always have to think about the negative aspect of things, and there are many, commercial brands, wanting to have worldwide attention, that you are recognized worldwide, it is redeemable that if Elon Musk does this from the heart he has heaven completely won, because it would be a unique gesture of charity, but if and only if he does it from the heart, rest and hopefully that no, it is for other purposes that somehow make it relevant in the eyes of the world, or that it is looking for other objectives.

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Quote from: Hamphser on November 27, 2021, 06:21:37 PM

Quote from: albon on November 26, 2021, 03:52:17 PM

Hunger will not be completely eliminated, but it can be reduced by a large percentage. 6 billion dollars. It is a huge amount. Therefore, if this amount is used in poor countries to reclaim agricultural land and build factories, job opportunities will be created, agricultural, industrial, and animal production will increase, self-sufficiency will be achieved, and unemployment rates will decrease. and poverty.

Yeah it wont be completely eliminated because global hunger is something that we are trying to solve for ages which 6billion wont really be enough imho but at least this one

would cover up a big scope of giving out who are need in food which is really a good step or move made out for the sake of this problem but expect that this wont be enough

but at least lots had been benenfited on this one even though its not really that enough but at least there are people who do make out considerations.

$6B is indeed not enough but it will make a difference to wherever it may go to. let's accept that it will not solve the world hunger, but will make a dent with this long-running prob.
what would be better is the self-sufficiency of the people to be addressed. because if you will just give food for few days, it is not sustainable. provide jobs, agricultural farmland or whatever is necessary so people will not rely on the government. look at long-term solutions not a band-aid ones.

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Of course it is not only a contribution but a challenge that the problem of hunger cannot be solved if corruption is still rampant, rulers are more concerned with their self-gratification and ignore the little people

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Quote from: albon on November 26, 2021, 03:52:17 PM

Hunger will not be completely eliminated, but it can be reduced by a large percentage. 6 billion dollars. It is a huge amount. Therefore, if this amount is used in poor countries to reclaim agricultural land and build factories, job opportunities will be created, agricultural, industrial, and animal production will increase, self-sufficiency will be achieved, and unemployment rates will decrease. and poverty.

Yeah it wont be completely eliminated because global hunger is something that we are trying to solve for ages which 6billion wont really be enough imho but at least this one

would cover up a big scope of giving out who are need in food which is really a good step or move made out for the sake of this problem but expect that this wont be enough

but at least lots had been benenfited on this one even though its not really that enough but at least there are people who do make out considerations.

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Quote from: dimox on November 27, 2021, 08:23:01 AM

sometimes, people wont glance at lazy person, they will find the other person who want to work more and more. prefer to give hard worker than the lazy, of course the lazy will hard to get job. not only from outside, but also from inside.

You can answer that by yourself. If you are in their shoe would you hire those kinds of people? For sure, you won't lazy. People deserve what they have now. There are always opportunities to every person who is seeking to change their life, you just need to find your space and do your best to enhance more.

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the main problem is, no fund to create new job for them. we can say that rich must give opportunity, so they can give the best for their life. sadly, rich have own decision to control it money.

They have the control and most of them are greed to kept more and if there are who love sharing it's just a little portions of their wealth.

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