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Quote from: Wawa2013 on November 05, 2021, 02:22:39 AM

Quote from: michellee on November 05, 2021, 01:43:42 AM

Quote from: DOH! on November 04, 2021, 07:09:19 PM

I think the world hunger problem will be solved simply with 6 billion dollars? Lol, in today's hyperinflation, values are meant to confirm and explicitly claim the funding for this charity will not guarantee. What if those 6 billion will be offered to them all 100% the same or if those numbers will be masked by other oppressions. Everything is just trust in the United Nations and the government.

It is not easy to solve world hunger in many countries because we still face the pandemic and it is not showing ends until now. The country needs to focus to solve this pandemic before they can move to the next target and solve it. But solving world hunger is not just a job for the government but for all people who can help each other and give them food. In this pandemic, it is better to help people so we can see pandemic ends so.

The problem of world hunger has existed for a long time and until now it has not been completely resolved, because it is not easy to solve world hunger.
Especially with the pandemic, I believe the number of hungry people in the world is increasing. I agree this is the job of all of us who have extra money,
in order to help hungry people. Actually helping starving people is not effective only to provide financial aid or food, but skills training must be provided
so that these hungry people have skills and can make money. The main problem of world hunger, because they don't understand how to make money
other than working for other people. I prefer if people starve because they have no income, are taught to be entrepreneurs, so the opportunity to
make money does not only depend on working in the company.

With the pandemic still appearing in almost all countries, it makes the government think twice to solve the world hunger as they still focus to solve the pandemic before it is too late. But I am sure that the government have a plan to do something for that person who suffers because of the pandemic and hunger problem.

At least, if we can share food with them, they can eat something and then, we can ask them to join us to get training that can improve their skills to search for a job.

If people can open their minds to learn something to have skills that can help them to make money, they will have a chance to create a new job and solve their problem and help other people.

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That will never be enough. According to current figures, about 1-1.2 billion people suffer acutely from hunger or are at high risk of hunger. Another 1 billion or so are at risk of hunger, not acutely, but as soon as the economy is not doing well. This means that there are about 2-2.2 billion people for whom a permanent solution must be found. If you now put the 6 billion USD, then that would be about $3 per hungry person. Everyone can see that this will never be enough to get the people permanently out of hunger poverty.

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Wow, I never new he is a philanthropist able to think of donating such amount to save the world from proverty. This is obviously outrageous. My question here is that;
What is the probability that such amount can save the world from proverty?
Is he ready to donate such an high amount of money?
How will the money be implemented if donated?

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 04, 2021, 11:38:12 AM

I don't think that could completely eliminate the world hunger but to be honest, that would really help a lot. It will take a long time to solve that world problem because we couldn't end it by giving a single meal but by continuous feeding. Providing temporary food is just a temporary solution. However, Elon's generosity in case that's true should be something to be thankful for because 6 billion is already a huge amount of funds.

It will help a lot but these people who sees a specific amount to end a problem that has been there since the ancient days are joking around. They're just projecting a value that might end hunger but in reality, there are more problems that will exist after doing that. Famine/hunger has been there for a long time and it's not going to solve it as exact as what they're speculating and projecting. What they must do is to use that money to provide jobs and build better projects that will sustain these people for the longer term. They only look at the short term solution and it's not really enough IMHO. Just like the very known quote about feeding and teaching to fish.

this is indeed good to make at least those who experience hunger a little helped by it.
but to overcome hunger by giving nominal I don't think it's a solution.
because it seems that hunger will always exist even if this is done because there is no absolute guarantee that it will be evenly distributed, besides that with something like this it is only possible to make hunger at least stop for some time after that there will definitely be more hunger in every region.
it would probably be great if we focused on giving people who don't have jobs a chance to be empowered.
because with things like giving help to people who are under poverty maybe they will be happy and will always hope that it continues so they don't want to change themselves.

We acknowledge and salute them that helps to reduce world hunger but having such aim to solve the problem, that money isn't really enough. It's not all about the amount of people that can be fed with that 6 billion dollars but it's about what it can do to change a lot of lives.
I think these people and social workers should look at that perspective aside from just feeding them all at once. How long will that amount sustain them feeding for those who are in need? That amount will eventually be gone and will also be lessen before it probably go to the receivers if there are corrupt officials.

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I will just write something related to my previous post. Of course, $6 billion cannot feed all the hungry of the world, the story is completely taken out of context and it is about helping the 40 million people hardest hit by the pandemic, supply chain disruption, and inflation.

But if we take that amount ($6 billion) and divide it by the $20 it takes for one child to get one hot meal every day at school, we come up with a number of as many as 300 million children who wouldn’t be completely hungry in one year. This is not only important from the perspective of someone being hungry, but it has already been proven that parents in poor countries send their children to school if they can get a hot meal there - and this results in more educated people who will no longer need someone else's help to survive.

But I argue once again that we should not expect people like Musk or Bezos to change the world, but that each of us can do it personally. An example of how one man can change the world for the better can be seen in Rwanda, where he did amazing things precisely because he focused on children, from whom he made the pillars of society.

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Statistics on paper is prone to error and those value quoted by UN might not be accurate. Since ElonMusk gave them the surprise reply, I haven't heard from them.
Every part of the world today is accumulated by the population of poor people who are struggling every day to feed, I wonder how they intend $6billion to cure hunger except if they plan to do just a single day feeding which will not be significant in my opinion.

Every countries has that richest person with $$, let them stand up and cure hunger, it will reduce hunger drastically instead of one person.

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In my opinion, such amount of money will only temporarily ease world hunger but it's not gonna solve it permanently. Lack of money is not the real cause of poverty, but rather it is the lack of opportunity and corrupt governance of governments and its local units. Donating large amount of money is useless and it will turn out to be a waste specially if there's a lot of leech in the place we are living.

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in my religion, people must give 2.5% every year to the poor to improve their daily or whatever it is. and the fact, there some story tell that people who actually must get this portion, no longer entitled after some of year, and no poor people in there.
its about how good people, giver and receiver. how good they are to make their money fill theirbdaily life.

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Quote from: Hippocrypto on November 04, 2021, 04:44:05 AM

Maybe those money they are going to donate might even reduce the hunger of some people but charity might be better instead of waiting. If we have something that might help other people to relieve their hunger then why not give them open arms. Let's help not wait.

I think the people who are really desperate with food will do anything. Elon tweeted this to the chief of WFP

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 04, 2021, 09:26:42 AM

Food isn't enough for these to solve their starvation. What they need is knowledge. Knowledge that will help them. Spend some money to share some knowledge and that might help them. Well, I agree though that this $6B will save some people from starvation.

I do agree with this since, with education, they can do whatever is necessary for them to continue living. It's not going to be easy but they need to. They shouldn't get used to the fact that there would be someone who would be willing to give them anything for free.

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Quote from: noorman0 on November 03, 2021, 09:27:51 AM

Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger?
How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective?

I feel like there is some confusing about this all because I was also surprised with this news just $6 Billion is going to end World hunger it's very less amount and this can do for just one or two days not for long enough time. We are already doing this all for many decades, but it is not possible because of many issues and regional problems also having impact on this all.

We have to do some political decisions because some countries are unbelievably corrupt, their system is not allowing big communities to rise and have some good way of life, so it's just needed some better education and many political and regional guidelines with some good amount of money.

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Quote from: michellee on November 05, 2021, 01:43:42 AM

Quote from: DOH! on November 04, 2021, 07:09:19 PM

I think the world hunger problem will be solved simply with 6 billion dollars? Lol, in today's hyperinflation, values are meant to confirm and explicitly claim the funding for this charity will not guarantee. What if those 6 billion will be offered to them all 100% the same or if those numbers will be masked by other oppressions. Everything is just trust in the United Nations and the government.

It is not easy to solve world hunger in many countries because we still face the pandemic and it is not showing ends until now. The country needs to focus to solve this pandemic before they can move to the next target and solve it. But solving world hunger is not just a job for the government but for all people who can help each other and give them food. In this pandemic, it is better to help people so we can see pandemic ends so.

The problem of world hunger has existed for a long time and until now it has not been completely resolved, because it is not easy to solve world hunger.
Especially with the pandemic, I believe the number of hungry people in the world is increasing. I agree this is the job of all of us who have extra money,
in order to help hungry people. Actually helping starving people is not effective only to provide financial aid or food, but skills training must be provided
so that these hungry people have skills and can make money. The main problem of world hunger, because they don't understand how to make money
other than working for other people. I prefer if people starve because they have no income, are taught to be entrepreneurs, so the opportunity to
make money does not only depend on working in the company.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 04, 2021, 07:59:07 PM

Quote from: Cling18 on November 04, 2021, 11:38:12 AM

I don't think that could completely eliminate the world hunger but to be honest, that would really help a lot. It will take a long time to solve that world problem because we couldn't end it by giving a single meal but by continuous feeding. Providing temporary food is just a temporary solution. However, Elon's generosity in case that's true should be something to be thankful for because 6 billion is already a huge amount of funds.

It will help a lot but these people who sees a specific amount to end a problem that has been there since the ancient days are joking around. They're just projecting a value that might end hunger but in reality, there are more problems that will exist after doing that. Famine/hunger has been there for a long time and it's not going to solve it as exact as what they're speculating and projecting. What they must do is to use that money to provide jobs and build better projects that will sustain these people for the longer term. They only look at the short term solution and it's not really enough IMHO. Just like the very known quote about feeding and teaching to fish.

this is indeed good to make at least those who experience hunger a little helped by it.
but to overcome hunger by giving nominal I don't think it's a solution.
because it seems that hunger will always exist even if this is done because there is no absolute guarantee that it will be evenly distributed, besides that with something like this it is only possible to make hunger at least stop for some time after that there will definitely be more hunger in every region.
it would probably be great if we focused on giving people who don't have jobs a chance to be empowered.
because with things like giving help to people who are under poverty maybe they will be happy and will always hope that it continues so they don't want to change themselves.

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Quote from: DOH! on November 04, 2021, 07:09:19 PM

I think the world hunger problem will be solved simply with 6 billion dollars? Lol, in today's hyperinflation, values are meant to confirm and explicitly claim the funding for this charity will not guarantee. What if those 6 billion will be offered to them all 100% the same or if those numbers will be masked by other oppressions. Everything is just trust in the United Nations and the government.

It is not easy to solve world hunger in many countries because we still face the pandemic and it is not showing ends until now. The country needs to focus to solve this pandemic before they can move to the next target and solve it. But solving world hunger is not just a job for the government but for all people who can help each other and give them food. In this pandemic, it is better to help people so we can see pandemic ends so.

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Money is not the most important issue to solve this, we should see it as a tool to help life. Poverty will continue and will not stop as long as people are still attached to the material, I think it belongs to the spiritual body when people are not interested or satisfied with it, they will recognize it simply. A lot of money is only money if it doesn't create value other than numbers, I like the way Elon uses money to make his mission to Mar because it's really great, we don't have to try to fix it. Accept what we've created as wrong, instead just think of it as a must for a life we haven't envisioned.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on November 04, 2021, 01:01:19 PM

But in wealthy places there's a lot of food waste on various levels, from an average US household wasting 30% of its food to UK supermarkets wasting what equals 190 million meals each year. The problem is not of the lack of production of resources. It's terrible distribution and also huge geographic inequality where some countries produce way more than they need and others don't produce enough.

Oh, again the rich western world which is wasting food, the inequality, the western elitist who don't think about the others:

India Wasted Over 68 Million Tons Of Food In 2019: UN Report

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The household food waste estimate in the US is 59 kg per capita per year, or 19,359,951 tonnes a year, while for China these estimates are 64 kg per capita per year or 91,646,213 tonnes a year. In India, the household food waste estimate is 50 kg per capita per year, or 68,760,163 tonnes a year.

India and China waste more than twice the food than North America and Europe combined.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 04, 2021, 11:38:12 AM

I don't think that could completely eliminate the world hunger but to be honest, that would really help a lot. It will take a long time to solve that world problem because we couldn't end it by giving a single meal but by continuous feeding. Providing temporary food is just a temporary solution. However, Elon's generosity in case that's true should be something to be thankful for because 6 billion is already a huge amount of funds.

It will help a lot but these people who sees a specific amount to end a problem that has been there since the ancient days are joking around. They're just projecting a value that might end hunger but in reality, there are more problems that will exist after doing that. Famine/hunger has been there for a long time and it's not going to solve it as exact as what they're speculating and projecting. What they must do is to use that money to provide jobs and build better projects that will sustain these people for the longer term. They only look at the short term solution and it's not really enough IMHO. Just like the very known quote about feeding and teaching to fish.

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I think the world hunger problem will be solved simply with 6 billion dollars? Lol, in today's hyperinflation, values are meant to confirm and explicitly claim the funding for this charity will not guarantee. What if those 6 billion will be offered to them all 100% the same or if those numbers will be masked by other oppressions. Everything is just trust in the United Nations and the government.

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Reposting this for proper context since it looks like many have missed it.

Quote from: Lucius on November 03, 2021, 11:46:28 AM

The media, and EM itself, have misunderstood what WFP Director David Beasley said - it's not that $6 billion can solve world hunger, it's a drop in the ocean of real needs - because at least half of the world's people don't have enough food. He stated the following :

Quote from: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/elon-musk-world-hunger-1.6234126

Beasley said that a combination of COVID-19, regional conflicts and climate crises has led to more than 40 million people being on the brink of starvation and that billionaires could give $6 billion to ease the crisis.

I don't know if some of the media misunderstood or they simply twisted what the Director said to bait many people for clicks and engagement.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 04, 2021, 04:46:48 PM

Quote from: noorman0 on November 03, 2021, 09:27:51 AM

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What do you think,
Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger?
How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective?

I am not sure how they got the value of $6 billion to solve world hunger, if it was that easy then it would have been sorted out long back and these numbers are made up to serve the purpose and nothing else.

I am not doing any research or calculation but from top of my mind i can say that you need an estimated around $100 billion per year to feed everyone globally who is living under poverty. Even if you do that for an year how anyone is going to solve the hunger issue forever if you are not able to spent that much amount every year for infinite years Tongue

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Dont know on where they do get that calculation because basing up on the entire world population then it cant really be known into those family or individual which are out of radar or statistics which means calculating on precise manner would be impossible and also 6 billion wont really be enough
on solving world hunger and same as others said that it is better rather than not making any steps at all.

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$6 Billion to solve world hunger is far-fetched. I don't think that figure is even enough to cover logistics + the food itself on a certain region. That UN guy who made that tweet is just dragging the name of the organization down due to his impulsive statements on the matter. And of course, Elon is ready to take a bite for the clout and to also prove a point. What people need aren't handouts, but actual jobs, sustainable lifestyle and developed economies for them to keep their mouths fed. UN doesn't really address that, though at the least, they are making an effort to alleviate the hunger of some of the poverty-stricken countries while they still have the machinery.

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