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November 13, 2021, 06:58:44 AM
I don't know the exact numbers to do so but I think that 6 billion isn't enough to completely solve world hunger. Unless they're seeing the short-term then it's probably going to work but to make a long-term impact, and what I mean by impact is that the solution can feed 3 to 4 generations then they're probably going to need a lot more than 6 billion.
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November 13, 2021, 06:13:39 AM
Teach a man to fish, rather than give fish.

While in most cases I agree with this, there are still many cases where you can teach them fish all day long with no use, 'cause they're in the middle of the desert.
There are many who are too old to learn, there are many who live in areas they can't leave and where they can't "fish" (or they can, but won't catch anything). Those need simply food. Their kids need education though.
In  some extend 6 billon can resolve world hunger. But we have UN and other organization's fund, donations, global fundraising campaigns, charity etc. Then is not legitimate to say, apart from corporate tax Musk should spend more.

Solution is not only about money is more than that.  Is about technology, infrastructure, adress political instability, unemployment, climate change, disaster, etc. Because major reason for hunger is not lack of resources but accessibility.
But to do it, we have to attack the problem at it's root cause. Because world hunger is much more than empty stomach.


It makes no sense to constantly feed, and at the expense of other people's money, countries or entire regions. I do not know countries where there are no resources at all, where it is impossible to build factories and plants. Whether for garbage processing, or for assembling simple products. The problem is not that you cannot build. The problem is they DON'T NEED it. Until we all figure it out, we'll play this fake charity. And those who can really start their own country, and the state of their environment - do not want this, since it is difficult. It's easier when they just brought you food and clothes, you don't have to strain, work - just take it and consume it! Do you say "west consumer society"? No, this is where the real bearers of absolute consumerism are in complete irresponsibility.
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November 12, 2021, 12:00:49 PM
That's only a small amount to solve the world hunger, however, the intention to help is big and if It's true then I would certainly admire Elon for doing that. At least he can help a huge number of hungry people in the world and that's his way to sharing back to the world from the fruits of his labor.

so the question of whether it will solve? it will definitely not but he can be a model and other billionaires might follow.
To eradicate the damage to the world, this nominal is indeed very small, but at least this can help those who really need and are hungry because there are still many people who are still very difficult to even eat.
I really appreciate what Elon is doing and I hope other Influenc and other billionaires do the same.
Instead of getting some appreciation on what Elon had done but instead he do get out some criticism or negative feedbacks about such matter on 6 billion wouldnt be enough? Yes it is  but at least he do show off some care.

Dont know if this is some publicity or something like that but its really good that he had made out some considerations on making this donation even though not enough but at least lots would really be benefiting out.

I do also appreciate on what Elon had done.
I think it's a risk that must be accepted because currently Elon is a person who is followed by many people and of course everything he does there must be someone who likes it and someone who doesn't.
it's normal for him but if he wants to do something like that it's actually quite good, at least there are still people who want to do that and people who have excess wealth should at least be moved by what he's doing right now.
regardless of whether this is an image or not, it doesn't matter the most important thing is having a desire to help others is a positive thing
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November 11, 2021, 09:05:46 AM
Teach a man to fish, rather than give fish.

While in most cases I agree with this, there are still many cases where you can teach them fish all day long with no use, 'cause they're in the middle of the desert.
There are many who are too old to learn, there are many who live in areas they can't leave and where they can't "fish" (or they can, but won't catch anything). Those need simply food. Their kids need education though.
In  some extend 6 billon can resolve world hunger. But we have UN and other organization's fund, donations, global fundraising campaigns, charity etc. Then is not legitimate to say, apart from corporate tax Musk should spend more.

Solution is not only about money is more than that.  Is about technology, infrastructure, adress political instability, unemployment, climate change, disaster, etc. Because major reason for hunger is not lack of resources but accessibility.
But to do it, we have to attack the problem at it's root cause. Because world hunger is much more than empty stomach.
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November 11, 2021, 03:59:52 AM
That is a huge amount of money but I am not sure if it is worth selling the Tesla for the whole thing? I know, I know humanity before the immaterial things but honestly let’s not forget that Tesla is huge company and it feeds N-number of families around the globe. With Tesla all set to create more plants around the Asian countries it will also become amazing opportunistic Center for those Asian families.

I’m not sure why would he need to sell Tesla, if he can just give share from his personal wealth. I hope you guys understand what I really meant here. I support the donations and charities.
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November 11, 2021, 01:10:54 AM
Based on this article [1] there're 811 million people worldwide still lack of food, so 6 billion/811 million is $7,39. I don't think with such amount will solve world hunger or even Musk give more money, still it doesn't resolve the cause of world hunger. Lack of skills, poor money management, bad income distribution or lazy are the cause of world hunger. Teach a man to fish, rather than give fish.


[1] https://www.actionagainsthunger.org/world-hunger-facts-statistics
I think what you said makes sense. In terms of donations, they may only be able to solve part of the superficial problems. They may return to their previous hungry environment after only a few meals. They need to solve the problem fundamentally. Letting them use their abilities to satisfy their food and clothing and teaching them how to make money is also the best way to save them. If you want to get some satisfaction, you have to work hard for it.
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November 11, 2021, 01:03:10 AM
In terms of human nature, whether this is only a few percent of Musk's total wealth, this is something most people cannot do. Musk's ability to take such a move is already very admirable and admirable.
Although Musk’s donated assets are already a fortune, they are not enough to save the world’s hunger problem. Wars and disputes in some countries have not disappeared, and many people have been affected by the war. This cannot completely solve the fundamental problem. But in the end, I still want to praise Musk's behavior.
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November 09, 2021, 06:15:20 PM
This is really good that he does at least some good things along with manipulating the market but somehow in my mind I still think that he does this in order to increase his influence over people and strengthen his overall image, make himself appear cool, Elon the savior. This kind of intentions behind "kind" actions is what I really hate but it's better to do something kind rather than do nothing or bad.

I think if anyone truly wants to bring something good to this world will be to help the poor nations by giving them quality education that includes trade skills too, show them the European lifestyle to implement in their countries instead of huge corruption, nepotism... Then the hunger will be lessened hugely.
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November 09, 2021, 03:52:45 PM
I am not sure what kind of plans David Beasley have with this kind of statement that he made. But looking at it the other way around you can see that it might be quite possible. So let us say that there are 7 billion people in the world, and Elon Musk has $6 billion to give out to help people around the world, doesn’t that mean it’s going to be enough at least for 5 billion people out of the 7 billion? And moreover is not more than half of the world that is living in poverty.

So in some kind of way, I think that is going to workout. But then looking at it in another way again,you’d say that it’s not going to be possible ‘cause they usually say that when you give a man a fish,he would come back to ask for more, but when you teach a man how to fish then that’s a better way for them. So, it’s all about what they’re going to do with the money, with a good plan I believe maybe there is going to be some progress in that.
Yeah, there are two types of people who are approaching this in a wrong manner and that is the main problem and why we have starvation in the world right now. One of them is pointing out that 6 billion dollars is not enough, like that would solve the problem. So, let's assume that 6 billion dollars is not enough, then how much is enough? What do we need to do and how much do we need to spend to fix this problem? Why do we talk about the amount not being enough instead of talking about how we can solve this problem?

The other type of people are talking about how this is a "democrat" way like it is some American problem, this isn't about democrat VS republican, it is not even about USA, it is about world hunger and people who are starving are not only from USA, it is rarely from there, it is mostly in other nations. We need to get all the rich people in the world, all the governments who could afford a bit to spare, and find a solution.
I value your statement, it's more on how we find the solution than looking for the exact amount that it needed to solve this problem, you are right about it, if those rich people and wealthy government start to look for poor nations as part of their obligation and removed the kind of mindset of being greed. World hunger is a wide concern to discuss, but if everyone will involve themselves in the solution is always possible to find.

It's between the mindset that will spark this out and get a proper solution, not a quick one, but a long-lasting solution that will help mankind.

Musk might start it by providing the amount in hope that there are other Trillionaire out there to share his sentiment and start building solutions. Smiley

No matter how much money is spent to solve the problem of world hunger, it will not completely solve the problem. But if many people change
the mindset that controlling greed is very important and get involved in the problem of world hunger, it might be able to find a solution.
Because the problem of world hunger is indeed very complicated and requires a lot of people involved to solve it. I agree with you, the problem of
world hunger should indeed be found the right solution, not looking for a quick solution, so in the long term at least world hunger can be
resolved. Regarding Elon Musk who will give some money, it will not solve the problem of hunger, but it can awaken other rich people,
that we live in the world must help each other. Because after all humans are social creatures who need the help of others to live.
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November 09, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
That's only a small amount to solve the world hunger, however, the intention to help is big and if It's true then I would certainly admire Elon for doing that. At least he can help a huge number of hungry people in the world and that's his way to sharing back to the world from the fruits of his labor.

so the question of whether it will solve? it will definitely not but he can be a model and other billionaires might follow.
To eradicate the damage to the world, this nominal is indeed very small, but at least this can help those who really need and are hungry because there are still many people who are still very difficult to even eat.
I really appreciate what Elon is doing and I hope other Influenc and other billionaires do the same.
Instead of getting some appreciation on what Elon had done but instead he do get out some criticism or negative feedbacks about such matter on 6 billion wouldnt be enough? Yes it is  but at least he do show off some care.

Dont know if this is some publicity or something like that but its really good that he had made out some considerations on making this donation even though not enough but at least lots would really be benefiting out.

I do also appreciate on what Elon had done.

At least he is willing to contribute to one of the world's major problems. Though it is not yet received by the organization as he said he is waiting for the breakdown on how this amount will solve this problem from responsible persons on this organization, still the idea that he is willing to share some of his stocks is for me should be appreciated. Because there are also billionaires like him, but what is their stance when it comes to poverty? We know some of them have their own nonprofit organizations but if a lot of these rich people will do the same as what Elon is willing to do, that would really be a great impact to the world, and may finally lessen the hunger crisis around the world.

He's not. It's just a PR stunt. If you really want to help, you help. You don't need to broadcast it.
PR stunt? You couldnt really tell because it is really just impossible that events like these wont really go to media knowing that Elon is the richest man on the world and
every move you do make specially dealing off with big money and its impossible that no one would be noticing it but i do understand on your point about not telling
everybody if you do really tend to make donation in silent but if that kind of fame and popularity level you do have then its less likely to happen.
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November 09, 2021, 01:39:53 PM
I am not sure what kind of plans David Beasley have with this kind of statement that he made. But looking at it the other way around you can see that it might be quite possible. So let us say that there are 7 billion people in the world, and Elon Musk has $6 billion to give out to help people around the world, doesn’t that mean it’s going to be enough at least for 5 billion people out of the 7 billion? And moreover is not more than half of the world that is living in poverty.

So in some kind of way, I think that is going to workout. But then looking at it in another way again,you’d say that it’s not going to be possible ‘cause they usually say that when you give a man a fish,he would come back to ask for more, but when you teach a man how to fish then that’s a better way for them. So, it’s all about what they’re going to do with the money, with a good plan I believe maybe there is going to be some progress in that.
Yeah, there are two types of people who are approaching this in a wrong manner and that is the main problem and why we have starvation in the world right now. One of them is pointing out that 6 billion dollars is not enough, like that would solve the problem. So, let's assume that 6 billion dollars is not enough, then how much is enough? What do we need to do and how much do we need to spend to fix this problem? Why do we talk about the amount not being enough instead of talking about how we can solve this problem?

The other type of people are talking about how this is a "democrat" way like it is some American problem, this isn't about democrat VS republican, it is not even about USA, it is about world hunger and people who are starving are not only from USA, it is rarely from there, it is mostly in other nations. We need to get all the rich people in the world, all the governments who could afford a bit to spare, and find a solution.

I value your statement, it's more on how we find the solution than looking for the exact amount that it needed to solve this problem, you are right about it, if those rich people and wealthy government start to look for poor nations as part of their obligation and removed the kind of mindset of being greed. World hunger is a wide concern to discuss, but if everyone will involve themselves in the solution is always possible to find.

It's between the mindset that will spark this out and get a proper solution, not a quick one, but a long-lasting solution that will help mankind.

Musk might start it by providing the amount in hope that there are other Trillionaire out there to share his sentiment and start building solutions. Smiley
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November 09, 2021, 10:58:43 AM
That's only a small amount to solve the world hunger, however, the intention to help is big and if It's true then I would certainly admire Elon for doing that. At least he can help a huge number of hungry people in the world and that's his way to sharing back to the world from the fruits of his labor.

so the question of whether it will solve? it will definitely not but he can be a model and other billionaires might follow.
To eradicate the damage to the world, this nominal is indeed very small, but at least this can help those who really need and are hungry because there are still many people who are still very difficult to even eat.
I really appreciate what Elon is doing and I hope other Influenc and other billionaires do the same.
Instead of getting some appreciation on what Elon had done but instead he do get out some criticism or negative feedbacks about such matter on 6 billion wouldnt be enough? Yes it is  but at least he do show off some care.

Dont know if this is some publicity or something like that but its really good that he had made out some considerations on making this donation even though not enough but at least lots would really be benefiting out.

I do also appreciate on what Elon had done.

At least he is willing to contribute to one of the world's major problems. Though it is not yet received by the organization as he said he is waiting for the breakdown on how this amount will solve this problem from responsible persons on this organization, still the idea that he is willing to share some of his stocks is for me should be appreciated. Because there are also billionaires like him, but what is their stance when it comes to poverty? We know some of them have their own nonprofit organizations but if a lot of these rich people will do the same as what Elon is willing to do, that would really be a great impact to the world, and may finally lessen the hunger crisis around the world.

He's not. It's just a PR stunt. If you really want to help, you help. You don't need to broadcast it.
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November 08, 2021, 04:38:23 PM
That's only a small amount to solve the world hunger, however, the intention to help is big and if It's true then I would certainly admire Elon for doing that. At least he can help a huge number of hungry people in the world and that's his way to sharing back to the world from the fruits of his labor.

so the question of whether it will solve? it will definitely not but he can be a model and other billionaires might follow.
To eradicate the damage to the world, this nominal is indeed very small, but at least this can help those who really need and are hungry because there are still many people who are still very difficult to even eat.
I really appreciate what Elon is doing and I hope other Influenc and other billionaires do the same.
Instead of getting some appreciation on what Elon had done but instead he do get out some criticism or negative feedbacks about such matter on 6 billion wouldnt be enough? Yes it is  but at least he do show off some care.

Dont know if this is some publicity or something like that but its really good that he had made out some considerations on making this donation even though not enough but at least lots would really be benefiting out.

I do also appreciate on what Elon had done.

At least he is willing to contribute to one of the world's major problems. Though it is not yet received by the organization as he said he is waiting for the breakdown on how this amount will solve this problem from responsible persons on this organization, still the idea that he is willing to share some of his stocks is for me should be appreciated. Because there are also billionaires like him, but what is their stance when it comes to poverty? We know some of them have their own nonprofit organizations but if a lot of these rich people will do the same as what Elon is willing to do, that would really be a great impact to the world, and may finally lessen the hunger crisis around the world.
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November 08, 2021, 04:34:06 PM
I am not sure what kind of plans David Beasley have with this kind of statement that he made. But looking at it the other way around you can see that it might be quite possible. So let us say that there are 7 billion people in the world, and Elon Musk has $6 billion to give out to help people around the world, doesn’t that mean it’s going to be enough at least for 5 billion people out of the 7 billion? And moreover is not more than half of the world that is living in poverty.

So in some kind of way, I think that is going to workout. But then looking at it in another way again,you’d say that it’s not going to be possible ‘cause they usually say that when you give a man a fish,he would come back to ask for more, but when you teach a man how to fish then that’s a better way for them. So, it’s all about what they’re going to do with the money, with a good plan I believe maybe there is going to be some progress in that.
Yeah, there are two types of people who are approaching this in a wrong manner and that is the main problem and why we have starvation in the world right now. One of them is pointing out that 6 billion dollars is not enough, like that would solve the problem. So, let's assume that 6 billion dollars is not enough, then how much is enough? What do we need to do and how much do we need to spend to fix this problem? Why do we talk about the amount not being enough instead of talking about how we can solve this problem?

The other type of people are talking about how this is a "democrat" way like it is some American problem, this isn't about democrat VS republican, it is not even about USA, it is about world hunger and people who are starving are not only from USA, it is rarely from there, it is mostly in other nations. We need to get all the rich people in the world, all the governments who could afford a bit to spare, and find a solution.
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November 08, 2021, 04:32:12 PM
That's only a small amount to solve the world hunger, however, the intention to help is big and if It's true then I would certainly admire Elon for doing that. At least he can help a huge number of hungry people in the world and that's his way to sharing back to the world from the fruits of his labor.

so the question of whether it will solve? it will definitely not but he can be a model and other billionaires might follow.
To eradicate the damage to the world, this nominal is indeed very small, but at least this can help those who really need and are hungry because there are still many people who are still very difficult to even eat.
I really appreciate what Elon is doing and I hope other Influenc and other billionaires do the same.
Instead of getting some appreciation on what Elon had done but instead he do get out some criticism or negative feedbacks about such matter on 6 billion wouldnt be enough? Yes it is  but at least he do show off some care.

Dont know if this is some publicity or something like that but its really good that he had made out some considerations on making this donation even though not enough but at least lots would really be benefiting out.

I do also appreciate on what Elon had done.
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November 08, 2021, 04:11:49 PM
That's only a small amount to solve the world hunger, however, the intention to help is big and if It's true then I would certainly admire Elon for doing that. At least he can help a huge number of hungry people in the world and that's his way to sharing back to the world from the fruits of his labor.

so the question of whether it will solve? it will definitely not but he can be a model and other billionaires might follow.
To eradicate the damage to the world, this nominal is indeed very small, but at least this can help those who really need and are hungry because there are still many people who are still very difficult to even eat.
I really appreciate what Elon is doing and I hope other Influenc and other billionaires do the same.
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November 08, 2021, 03:48:50 PM
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6 billion to solve world hunger?

The problem is not in the money, the problem is in the will to solve the problem! World hunger is a problem, as climate changes are the problem, to not mention all other global problems with pollution, clear water... and what big global players are doing about that? I guess it's not in their interest to do anything about that, so we have a lot of talking about it, but not so many real actions that can make some real and big changes!


Indeed. Money is not a problem here but the will to solve the problem. Since before, hunger is always been the problem even in other countries. I think it's better to make a charitable works than doing nothing. It's better to do some good works to make a big changes to this problem. Helping each other might be a big help also to solve this.

Charity is well applicable to people who have no opportunity to change their situation - seriously ill people, children, etc. for whom there is no other option but to live off the direct financial assistance of others.
But pity for lazy people is stupid. It won't fix them. Moreover, eating YOUR money, they will laugh at you, and tomorrow DEMAND, as if you owe them.
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November 08, 2021, 08:55:27 AM
That's only a small amount to solve the world hunger, however, the intention to help is big and if It's true then I would certainly admire Elon for doing that. At least he can help a huge number of hungry people in the world and that's his way to sharing back to the world from the fruits of his labor.

so the question of whether it will solve? it will definitely not but he can be a model and other billionaires might follow.
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November 08, 2021, 08:50:36 AM
Based on this article [1] there're 811 million people worldwide still lack of food, so 6 billion/811 million is $7,39. I don't think with such amount will solve world hunger or even Musk give more money, still it doesn't resolve the cause of world hunger. Lack of skills, poor money management, bad income distribution or lazy are the cause of world hunger. Teach a man to fish, rather than give fish.


[1] https://www.actionagainsthunger.org/world-hunger-facts-statistics
People have starved on Earth at all times and no one has ever been able to finally solve this problem. Now, due to climate change, various natural disasters and man-made disasters have become more frequent. This means that the number of people who will be annoying will increase. Elon Musk can feed the hungry several times with six billion dollars, but all the same, the problem will not be solved.
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November 08, 2021, 07:54:03 AM
The move is amazing and I wish that Elon would go for this. However, we must understand that these funds do not always end up in the right hand. Not all humans are like minded not all are honest with their work. I’m not going for the negative points here but it is what it is. If Elon spares 6 billion dollars then we are not 100% sure that all of it will reach to the end users. If this would have been so easy then there are already billion dollar worth foundations running around the world but how much of help is reached to them?

In this scenario Elon should take step forward by creating own trusts and helping out the needy through his trusted workers.
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