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November 08, 2021, 08:35:16 AM
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6 billion to solve world hunger?

The problem is not in the money, the problem is in the will to solve the problem! World hunger is a problem, as climate changes are the problem, to not mention all other global problems with pollution, clear water... and what big global players are doing about that? I guess it's not in their interest to do anything about that, so we have a lot of talking about it, but not so many real actions that can make some real and big changes!


Indeed. Money is not a problem here but the will to solve the problem. Since before, hunger is always been the problem even in other countries. I think it's better to make a charitable works than doing nothing. It's better to do some good works to make a big changes to this problem. Helping each other might be a big help also to solve this.
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November 08, 2021, 06:44:14 AM
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It is not easy to solve world hunger in many countries because we still face the pandemic and it is not showing ends until now. The country needs to focus to solve this pandemic before they can move to the next target and solve it. But solving world hunger is not just a job for the government but for all people who can help each other and give them food. In this pandemic, it is better to help people so we can see pandemic ends so.
The problem of world hunger has existed for a long time and until now it has not been completely resolved, because it is not easy to solve world hunger.
Especially with the pandemic, I believe the number of hungry people in the world is increasing. I agree this is the job of all of us who have extra money,
in order to help hungry people. Actually helping starving people is not effective only to provide financial aid or food, but skills training must be provided
so that these hungry people have skills and can make money. The main problem of world hunger, because they don't understand how to make money
other than working for other people. I prefer if people starve because they have no income, are taught to be entrepreneurs, so the opportunity to
make money does not only depend on working in the company.
With the pandemic still appearing in almost all countries, it makes the government think twice to solve the world hunger as they still focus to solve the pandemic before it is too late. But I am sure that the government have a plan to do something for that person who suffers because of the pandemic and hunger problem.

At least, if we can share food with them, they can eat something and then, we can ask them to join us to get training that can improve their skills to search for a job.

If people can open their minds to learn something to have skills that can help them to make money, they will have a chance to create a new job and solve their problem and help other people.

For all countries overcoming the pandemic is the main thing, so the government of each country will plan something to relieve the population
who are indeed affected by the pandemic, which has not yet ended. Especially the people who lost their jobs and starved because of
the difficulty of making money. Usually the government will provide direct assistance in the form of money and food, after that the government
will provide training to increase the ability of the population, in order to make money. At least that's the government's plan in my country,
but in practice it can't reach everyone. There are always people who do not get government assistance, therefore care is needed from the rich,
to help the government by helping people who are starving because they have lost their jobs. Although I am not a rich person, but I am a person
who has stable finances, so I helped the hungry people who were near where I lived. Because indeed we as humans must help each other.
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November 08, 2021, 05:17:50 AM
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6 billion to solve world hunger?

The problem is not in the money, the problem is in the will to solve the problem! World hunger is a problem, as climate changes are the problem, to not mention all other global problems with pollution, clear water... and what big global players are doing about that? I guess it's not in their interest to do anything about that, so we have a lot of talking about it, but not so many real actions that can make some real and big changes!

legendary
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November 08, 2021, 04:54:42 AM
How Elon Musk is even planning to solve hunger issue? Just by buying lots of food for $6 billion? That would solve the problem for couple of days or months. If he plans to direct this money to build an infrastructure that will produce or generate food, than I cant imagine how long will it take till everything starts to give first fruits of success. No doubt it will take years. In several years hunger problem will evolve and $6 billions will not be enough.
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November 08, 2021, 03:53:18 AM
Have you read the latest news?
"Elon Musk is ready to sell his Tesla shares to donate $6 billion".(source).
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This comes in response to a tweet made by David Beasley, director of the UN’s World Food Programme (WFP).

In his tweet, Beasley had mentioned the $36 billion increase in Musk’s net worth after Hertz ordered 100,000 Teslas. He added that one-sixth of this increase, which is $6 billion, could help save 42 million people who are suffering from famine.

If interpreted based on google data, that number is only about 2% of the total value of Musk's wealth.

What do you think,
Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger?
How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective?

Nope. I think 6B$ cannot sustain a year long feeding for these hungry people. These people are there because most of them don't want to work. Some are just unlucky enough. Some have disabilities. Even if UN give them a job, some of them wont do it out of laziness. So yeah, 6B$ wont even fund it til mid 2022. However, countries like africa really needs help. This amount will do a lot for them but again cant sustain a year long fund.

Yes, if we only target the poor countries that are really struggling, this could have a significant positive impact on the economy and the lives of the people in that country. However, if we target the entire world, it is not worth it because 6 billion dollars is insufficient. The best approach is to find or select a country that is in desperate need of assistance, and then to donate an amount that will allow their citizens to at least survive for a year, or to assist them in starting a business that will generate monthly income.
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November 07, 2021, 07:06:16 PM
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you are right, after all poverty is a matter of "mindset" not just about food
feeding all the poor people in the world will not be able to solve the problem of poverty that continues to exist in this world
mass education and also self-awareness of the person who will make the problem of poverty reduced
Poverty is not a mindset, there are people around the world that are struggling to have proper food three times a day and it is not a mindset, it is a fact. You need to identify the reason they are not coming up in life and you need to give special attention to the people who are struggling and that takes a lot of effort and time to change the situation, but setting up an amount alone will not solve global hunger.
It depends what people you are talking about. If it's a farmer's family in an african country I agree these people really need special attention, but if it's an addicted person or a pickpocket who live on the streets of a big center taking advantage of another citizens and from the society it's really a matter of mindset, because they have no fair reason to live and behave like that.

The problem is that those people who really need help are all labeled as lazy and despicable because the ones who don't deserve any help and end being totally supported by populist political agendas who seek for their votes.

Indeed, true!  Angry there are people who are hiding to this reality, they are doing laziness and unfair ways of living and yet they calling themselves poor; they have ways to increase the chance of improving their lifestyle but they are just content with how they wanted to live, pick pocketers and those drug addicted people who mostly came from the poorest sides of society.

They have other alternatives, but they choose to live like this. If ever Elon will really donate that amount, the next issue might be to who will hold the funds with honest ways of distributing it. Roll Eyes

A lot of government who are corrupt, we see that from how this pandemic reveals those greedy officials. Angry Huh
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November 07, 2021, 06:15:31 PM
Again, he loves being El-On, having a proposal to deliver money for the solution of something that has been going on for so many years, this is to divert attention news to only allow ElOn to seem like a benign benefactor, whether he donates them or not that money does not help the problem in the future, it is reality, the root problem is another.
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November 07, 2021, 05:48:20 PM
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you are right, after all poverty is a matter of "mindset" not just about food
feeding all the poor people in the world will not be able to solve the problem of poverty that continues to exist in this world
mass education and also self-awareness of the person who will make the problem of poverty reduced
Poverty is not a mindset, there are people around the world that are struggling to have proper food three times a day and it is not a mindset, it is a fact. You need to identify the reason they are not coming up in life and you need to give special attention to the people who are struggling and that takes a lot of effort and time to change the situation, but setting up an amount alone will not solve global hunger.
It depends what people you are talking about. If it's a farmer's family in an african country I agree these people really need special attention, but if it's an addicted person or a pickpocket who live on the streets of a big center taking advantage of another citizens and from the society it's really a matter of mindset, because they have no fair reason to live and behave like that.

The problem is that those people who really need help are all labeled as lazy and despicable because the ones who don't deserve any help and end being totally supported by populist political agendas who seek for their votes.
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November 07, 2021, 05:37:44 PM
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you are right, after all poverty is a matter of "mindset" not just about food
feeding all the poor people in the world will not be able to solve the problem of poverty that continues to exist in this world
mass education and also self-awareness of the person who will make the problem of poverty reduced
Poverty is not a mindset, there are people around the world that are struggling to have proper food three times a day and it is not a mindset, it is a fact. You need to identify the reason they are not coming up in life and you need to give special attention to the people who are struggling and that takes a lot of effort and time to change the situation, but setting up an amount alone will not solve global hunger.
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November 07, 2021, 04:32:27 PM
I have researched and found that lots of poor people don't have the intentions to work. So even if riches ask poor people to work to get money for their work, there will be more exploitation than 'helping out' because riches will behave like a boss then. I totally agree with your systemic poverty line, but the mental state of poors have been so much narrowed down that they are unable to come out of that, thinking they have no life and due to less to zero knowledge, they don't know about and cannot learn anything new. If everybody starts thinking the way you think, then there will be no donations at all.
I do not know what your "research" looks like, could you share your thesis? Could you share your data please? Could you share the place where your scientific research was published? Or is it more like "this is what I believe and I have seen a few people like that so I will keep on believing this"? Because it sounds awful lot like you did not do a proper research like scientists does and only providing your own views as research which is fake.

There are so many people in the world that would be willing to work for money, only if you give them a proper goal, if you are talking about "well they could pick the garbage and burn them" yes there could be very few people willing to do that job, but do you really believe that some guy who studied for 4 years in college, then 2 years in masters then gets offer from McDonalds and rejects it, "doesn't want to work"? They want a proper job for their education, that is the main problem here.
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November 07, 2021, 03:34:18 PM
Based on this article [1] there're 811 million people worldwide still lack of food, so 6 billion/811 million is $7,39. I don't think with such amount will solve world hunger or even Musk give more money, still it doesn't resolve the cause of world hunger. Lack of skills, poor money management, bad income distribution or lazy are the cause of world hunger. Teach a man to fish, rather than give fish.


[1] https://www.actionagainsthunger.org/world-hunger-facts-statistics
you are right, after all poverty is a matter of "mindset" not just about food

feeding all the poor people in the world will not be able to solve the problem of poverty that continues to exist in this world

mass education and also self-awareness of the person who will make the problem of poverty reduced
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November 07, 2021, 02:20:05 PM
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This comes in response to a tweet made by David Beasley, director of the UN’s World Food Programme (WFP).

In his tweet, Beasley had mentioned the $36 billion increase in Musk’s net worth after Hertz ordered 100,000 Teslas. He added that one-sixth of this increase, which is $6 billion, could help save 42 million people who are suffering from famine.
Well, I am not sure what kind of plans David Beasley have with this kind of statement that he made. But looking at it the other way around you can see that it might be quite possible. So let us say that there are 7 billion people in the world, and Elon Musk has $6 billion to give out to help people around the world, doesn’t that mean it’s going to be enough at least for 5 billion people out of the 7 billion? And moreover is not more than half of the world that is living in poverty.

So in some kind of way, I think that is going to workout. But then looking at it in another way again,you’d say that it’s not going to be possible ‘cause they usually say that when you give a man a fish,he would come back to ask for more, but when you teach a man how to fish then that’s a better way for them. So, it’s all about what they’re going to do with the money, with a good plan I believe maybe there is going to be some progress in that.
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November 07, 2021, 01:43:10 PM
Certainly 6 Billion in USD can't solve the hunger throughout the world, to think, there's no available amount to estimate how to solve the hunger worldwide. So instead of giving money to the people who are in need, why not give them a job based on what skills they have. In that way, we won't have to give them money to sustain their needs especially food because they can feed themselves already and even with their family from the job that has given to them and the best thing is they have a chance to lift themselves from poverty depending how they'll manage.

$6B isn't gonna sustain them for a week or two if you help those who need the most in USA, how much more if it's divided throughout the globe. And I don't like when famous persons are tweeting or announcing it publicly if they're planning to give to the poor, why not give it privately as long as your heart is pure. But still I respect for that good deed and mindset that he's willing sell his part on Tesla to solve world hunger.  Cheesy
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November 07, 2021, 12:58:03 PM
#99
Have you read the latest news?
"Elon Musk is ready to sell his Tesla shares to donate $6 billion".(source).
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This comes in response to a tweet made by David Beasley, director of the UN’s World Food Programme (WFP).

In his tweet, Beasley had mentioned the $36 billion increase in Musk’s net worth after Hertz ordered 100,000 Teslas. He added that one-sixth of this increase, which is $6 billion, could help save 42 million people who are suffering from famine.

If interpreted based on google data, that number is only about 2% of the total value of Musk's wealth.

What do you think,
Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger?
How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective?

Nope. I think 6B$ cannot sustain a year long feeding for these hungry people. These people are there because most of them don't want to work. Some are just unlucky enough. Some have disabilities. Even if UN give them a job, some of them wont do it out of laziness. So yeah, 6B$ wont even fund it til mid 2022. However, countries like africa really needs help. This amount will do a lot for them but again cant sustain a year long fund.
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November 07, 2021, 12:12:00 PM
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It wont. The mere fact that most are affected by poverty, 6B$ isn't enough. It needs global cooperation as well as programs to eradicate such problem in the society. Added by corruption and greedy politicians, UN cant solve it really. What we need is a global education system for the poor and how to get out of that situation. Help them get a job and give hope for those who lost it. Poor people usually are lazy due to their surroundings and lack of hope for their future. It is a generation passed to another generation mentality and those who have the guts to break that system wins. Help them by educating them properly. We needs 100B$ for that and global unity.
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November 07, 2021, 09:56:14 AM
#97
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By giving money for this, you yourself generate systemic poverty, which becomes genetic.

I have researched and found that lots of poor people don't have the intentions to work. So even if riches ask poor people to work to get money for their work, there will be more exploitation than 'helping out' because riches will behave like a boss then. I totally agree with your systemic poverty line, but the mental state of poors have been so much narrowed down that they are unable to come out of that, thinking they have no life and due to less to zero knowledge, they don't know about and cannot learn anything new. If everybody starts thinking the way you think, then there will be no donations at all.

I myself am a little shocked by this, but it is a fact. Therefore, I will persuade them to stop supporting this dead-end ideology, which only develops in them a sense of consumerism, a feeling that everyone owes them, and everyone must solve the problems of these "suffering" at their own expense, and they, unhappy, will "sit and suffer" !
In fact, modern society spoiled those who really needed help, and transformed the objective need for help into some kind of obligation of some to others, but without any logic, and most importantly, this does not solve the problem, it just creates dependents, constantly demanding to save them! We also learn that they themselves do not want to do this, as it turns out that this requires work!
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November 07, 2021, 07:13:09 AM
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If this was best solution then I think philanthropist and other billionaires have already donated so much for the noble cause that world hunger should have been evaded by now and we have not come across such statements.So if we take into consideration his $335 billion net worth as he is only one to reach there  and some know how he managed to do it his 2% would be around $6.6 billion and that's not at all sufficient to evade hunger or end the world hunger totally.As per this they need $1.9 billion to prevent famine this year and have received $1.5 billion in funds already.But how much they are going to stop the rising inflation is making many going down the poverty line and pushing burden on themselves to survive the race to stay above the line.But if they can solve it with such small amount then not only musk many others or say top 10 richest person on Forbes 2021 will be willing to give some amount which will surely be above 2% of Musk's wealth but can they do it what they have said?
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November 06, 2021, 06:57:17 PM
#95
Have you read the latest news?
"Elon Musk is ready to sell his Tesla shares to donate $6 billion".(source).
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This comes in response to a tweet made by David Beasley, director of the UN’s World Food Programme (WFP).

In his tweet, Beasley had mentioned the $36 billion increase in Musk’s net worth after Hertz ordered 100,000 Teslas. He added that one-sixth of this increase, which is $6 billion, could help save 42 million people who are suffering from famine.

If interpreted based on google data, that number is only about 2% of the total value of Musk's wealth.

What do you think,
Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger?
How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective?


I have heard of this news a few days ago and i think Elon Musk would even give this kind of money.But i dont think even this $6 billion would end world hunger. Elon Musk also tweeted that if he gives the money everything wants to be transparent for the public so everyone can see on what the money has been wasted.
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November 06, 2021, 05:31:46 PM
#94
Hahaa, someone important wants to reveal something here. He began to suspect a lot of things about the UN. Looks like the donation will fail, unfortunately.

$6 billion apparently not only gives a hungry person a little hope, but also makes full people hungry. Even $6 trillion won't eradicate hunger.
UN World Food Program

Seems that way. Publishing their transaction ledger would clarify matters.
And this is one of the big problems with charities and other organizations like that, a great deal of whatever you donate goes towards maintaining the charity itself and not to help those that need it, this is why it is way more effective to just give whatever money you were thinking to donate to a charity to people directly, this way the full amount you wanted to give will reach that person without a third party in the middle taking their cut, basically the same concept behind bitcoin but applied to donations instead of a currency.
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November 06, 2021, 04:48:37 PM
#93
We acknowledge and salute them that helps to reduce world hunger but having such aim to solve the problem, that money isn't really enough. It's not all about the amount of people that can be fed with that 6 billion dollars but it's about what it can do to change a lot of lives.
I think these people and social workers should look at that perspective aside from just feeding them all at once. How long will that amount sustain them feeding for those who are in need? That amount will eventually be gone and will also be lessen before it probably go to the receivers if there are corrupt officials.
as you said, as long as there are many corrupt officials and many people abusing their power things like this will not go very smoothly.
on the other hand, things like this are not wrong, in fact things like this are a good thing because at least they can reduce the suffering of many people. but indeed the system that is carried out and the method is not quite right.
because it's true that things like this won't last for long.
Yeah, it is not wrong. But the motive could be hidden from the actual help that they want to say. You can ever imagine everyone being fed and are filling their hunger.
Until when? that's the question that they have to solve next when the funds for solving the hunger is no longer there anymore.
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