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Topic: 750 GH/s - 3TH/s Miners from $3565 - www.bitcoinultra.co.uk - page 24. (Read 30638 times)

newbie
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It seems to me that bitcoinultra has no real miners running for stability testing at the present time, which means that their products are still in the lab. There are too much uncertainty between the lab and production. Stability testing could take much longer time than we thought. Stability is critical and time is vital in btc mining. If there is any delay, the buyer will be screwed up again. I would recommend cautions.
hero member
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er imho you should sell the unit for less  $$$ and include the option of getting it w/o the power supply (if you are compatible with standard supplies)
for shipping it also would help costs...knc did not ship power supplies w/units they said because it was an issue in some countries...ie they opened up the unit
and looked ? not sure why ...anyway it is on the KNC FAQ someplace

anyway could get your unit down in price and make it more competive imho a lot of us have no problems getting even a high end unit like
a corsair 1200i with enough notice of what is needed

anyway make it an option it will make your units more attractive in price and less hassle for you imho

Searing


Thanks for your suggestions.

At the minute we have all four units designed to fit into neat looking cases, if we went down a route of an optional power supply would people be happy with the power leads trailing out of the back (Similar to the KNC)?

We have about 10 days until we need to commit to our final case designs
Answer my email and I can help you with all these issues.

Dont include a power supply - there are a ton of reasons.
1) it adds a lot of shipping weight - perhaps an extra $10-30
2) you probably will not get them any cheaper then the end-consumer
3) some buyers have power supplies, AND/OR will use server power supplies that are much cheaper

I would do what KNC did and include tails. Perhaps even include a small distribution bar for the tails (ie: a few nice big ring/screw terminals for bare power leads, and a bunch of PCI sockets that would connect to the unit's PCI tails) so that anyone running a raw 12V PSU that doesnt include any sort of connectors can run some fat 12V cable to the unit without needing to do all sorts of splicing to make it compatible with a PCI connector
Don't forget the different power cables across the world.

Let the costumers buy the PSU, In the end it will probaly same them money.
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
er imho you should sell the unit for less  $$$ and include the option of getting it w/o the power supply (if you are compatible with standard supplies)
for shipping it also would help costs...knc did not ship power supplies w/units they said because it was an issue in some countries...ie they opened up the unit
and looked ? not sure why ...anyway it is on the KNC FAQ someplace

anyway could get your unit down in price and make it more competive imho a lot of us have no problems getting even a high end unit like
a corsair 1200i with enough notice of what is needed

anyway make it an option it will make your units more attractive in price and less hassle for you imho

Searing


Thanks for your suggestions.

At the minute we have all four units designed to fit into neat looking cases, if we went down a route of an optional power supply would people be happy with the power leads trailing out of the back (Similar to the KNC)?

We have about 10 days until we need to commit to our final case designs
Answer my email and I can help you with all these issues.

Dont include a power supply - there are a ton of reasons.
1) it adds a lot of shipping weight - perhaps an extra $10-30
2) you probably will not get them any cheaper then the end-consumer
3) some buyers have power supplies, AND/OR will use server power supplies that are much cheaper

I would do what KNC did and include tails. Perhaps even include a small distribution bar for the tails (ie: a few nice big ring/screw terminals for bare power leads, and a bunch of PCI sockets that would connect to the unit's PCI tails) so that anyone running a raw 12V PSU that doesnt include any sort of connectors can run some fat 12V cable to the unit without needing to do all sorts of splicing to make it compatible with a PCI connector
legendary
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Merit: 1004

Thanks. How are you going to achieve 0.65W/GH when Bitmine is running at 1W/GH?

How many chips are you using in the 3TH model?

We aren't running our chips in any kind of "Turbo Mode" which is keeping our power usage to 0.65W/GH with each chip producing 31.25GH/s

Our Enigma 4 model which can hash 3TH/s has 96 ASIC chips. They are mounted with 12 chips to a board, 2 boards to a module and 4 modules in this unit (I hope that all makes sense  Smiley )

31.25GH/s is definitely an OC over nominal. Bitmine is running five 8-chip boards to produce 1TH/s with a bit worse than 1J/GH. That's 25GH/s per chip. Marto74's boards run at around the 32GH/s range and they pull closer to 1.5J/GH at that setting.
I'd love to see your test result showing 0.65J/GH at 31.25GH/s per chip.
copper member
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Clueless!
er imho you should sell the unit for less  $$$ and include the option of getting it w/o the power supply (if you are compatible with standard supplies)
for shipping it also would help costs...knc did not ship power supplies w/units they said because it was an issue in some countries...ie they opened up the unit
and looked ? not sure why ...anyway it is on the KNC FAQ someplace

anyway could get your unit down in price and make it more competive imho a lot of us have no problems getting even a high end unit like
a corsair 1200i with enough notice of what is needed

anyway make it an option it will make your units more attractive in price and less hassle for you imho

Searing


Thanks for your suggestions.

At the minute we have all four units designed to fit into neat looking cases, if we went down a route of an optional power supply would people be happy with the power leads trailing out of the back (Similar to the KNC)?

We have about 10 days until we need to commit to our final case designs



one thing i learned as a knc oct 555gh owner...it has made 42 coins for me on slush so far...it could look like a toaster for all i care....cost and the fact that the knc unit has been up w/o interuption except for when i bumped table (twice) (get an isobar6plug surge protector it comes with insurance in case of surge..like 72 bucks on www.newegg.com but touchy touchy if you brush the table) and when i did like 3 upgrades of the firmware ...not bad for 24/7 since oct...so imho who cares.......the $$$ saved in shipping to usa from UK and the fact that it probably will have more air flow is all the reason i need..if it runs as good as the knc unit it will be golden
Searing
newbie
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Thanks for everyone's input regarding our new hardware. Following the input from the forum along with the emails and phone calls we have received we will be removing the power supply from our units and offer it as an option

We will be publishing all the final technical specifications hopefully at the end of this week, and by next week we will also be sending out a couple of test units to some forum members which has already been arranged.

@Dogie I have sent you a PM
sr. member
Activity: 295
Merit: 250
This looks interesting, but those prices are rather scary. They're not much different than the price per gigahash of Antminer S1's, and while I don't discount the value of reduced power usage or having one unit versus 4-16 Antminers -- the difference is I can get an S1 today. That's a full six weeks of hashing before your best-case estimate of shipping. In the bitcoin world, that's the difference between profitability and an expensive room heater.

More to the point, I'm pretty confident that within six weeks, the price of the Antminers will drop substantially. That would put your devices at an even bigger disadvantage.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Thanks for your suggestions.
At the minute we have all four units designed to fit into neat looking cases, if we went down a route of an optional power supply would people be happy with the power leads trailing out of the back (Similar to the KNC)?
We have about 10 days until we need to commit to our final case designs
We do love the KnC style and do not need neat looking cases because many guys will take off their "clothes" for cooling  Grin Grin Grin
Removing PSU will decrease prices and Customs troubles also for customers; we just need a clear PSU requirement.

Hope this new miner come true soon!

+1
all my rigs get totally 'stripped' regardless of how sexy they look, the get put on a windowsill by an open window with extra fans pulling cold air into the rigging...  because of this I get a stable ~+12% hashrate - and the warm air is circulated from the office room to the living room, saves me putting the heating on during the day  Grin
full member
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Thanks for your suggestions.
At the minute we have all four units designed to fit into neat looking cases, if we went down a route of an optional power supply would people be happy with the power leads trailing out of the back (Similar to the KNC)?
We have about 10 days until we need to commit to our final case designs
We do love the KnC style and do not need neat looking cases because many guys will take off their "clothes" for cooling  Grin Grin Grin
Removing PSU will decrease prices and Customs troubles also for customers; we just need a clear PSU requirement.

Hope this new miner come true soon!
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
er imho you should sell the unit for less  $$$ and include the option of getting it w/o the power supply (if you are compatible with standard supplies)
for shipping it also would help costs...knc did not ship power supplies w/units they said because it was an issue in some countries...ie they opened up the unit
and looked ? not sure why ...anyway it is on the KNC FAQ someplace

anyway could get your unit down in price and make it more competive imho a lot of us have no problems getting even a high end unit like
a corsair 1200i with enough notice of what is needed

anyway make it an option it will make your units more attractive in price and less hassle for you imho

Searing


Thanks for your suggestions.

At the minute we have all four units designed to fit into neat looking cases, if we went down a route of an optional power supply would people be happy with the power leads trailing out of the back (Similar to the KNC)?

We have about 10 days until we need to commit to our final case designs
Answer my email and I can help you with all these issues.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500

Thanks. How are you going to achieve 0.65W/GH when Bitmine is running at 1W/GH?

How many chips are you using in the 3TH model?

We aren't running our chips in any kind of "Turbo Mode" which is keeping our power usage to 0.65W/GH with each chip producing 31.25GH/s

Our Enigma 4 model which can hash 3TH/s has 96 ASIC chips. They are mounted with 12 chips to a board, 2 boards to a module and 4 modules in this unit (I hope that all makes sense  Smiley )

31.25GH/s is 'turbo' mode, considering A1 nominal 25GH/s. 25% increase over nominal speed, yet with nominal power usage?
I would like to know at what voltage, and what internal frequency chip is running?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
er imho you should sell the unit for less  $$$ and include the option of getting it w/o the power supply (if you are compatible with standard supplies)
for shipping it also would help costs...knc did not ship power supplies w/units they said because it was an issue in some countries...ie they opened up the unit
and looked ? not sure why ...anyway it is on the KNC FAQ someplace

anyway could get your unit down in price and make it more competive imho a lot of us have no problems getting even a high end unit like
a corsair 1200i with enough notice of what is needed

anyway make it an option it will make your units more attractive in price and less hassle for you imho

Searing


Thanks for your suggestions.

At the minute we have all four units designed to fit into neat looking cases, if we went down a route of an optional power supply would people be happy with the power leads trailing out of the back (Similar to the KNC)?

We have about 10 days until we need to commit to our final case designs

legendary
Activity: 1062
Merit: 1003

Thanks. How are you going to achieve 0.65W/GH when Bitmine is running at 1W/GH?

How many chips are you using in the 3TH model?

We aren't running our chips in any kind of "Turbo Mode" which is keeping our power usage to 0.65W/GH with each chip producing 31.25GH/s

Our Enigma 4 model which can hash 3TH/s has 96 ASIC chips. They are mounted with 12 chips to a board, 2 boards to a module and 4 modules in this unit (I hope that all makes sense  Smiley )




er imho you should sell the unit for less  $$$ and include the option of getting it w/o the power supply (if you are compatible with standard supplies)
for shipping it also would help costs...knc did not ship power supplies w/units they said because it was an issue in some countries...ie they opened up the unit
and looked ? not sure why ...anyway it is on the KNC FAQ someplace

anyway could get your unit down in price and make it more competive imho a lot of us have no problems getting even a high end unit like
a corsair 1200i with enough notice of what is needed

anyway make it an option it will make your units more attractive in price and less hassle for you imho

Searing

+1 this would also make it more attractive for me too. As long as the price drop is realistic consideration of what the required PSU might cost.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
much relevance, product best wow...


when's the day trip to yarksheer?Huh?
copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1465
Clueless!

Thanks. How are you going to achieve 0.65W/GH when Bitmine is running at 1W/GH?

How many chips are you using in the 3TH model?

We aren't running our chips in any kind of "Turbo Mode" which is keeping our power usage to 0.65W/GH with each chip producing 31.25GH/s

Our Enigma 4 model which can hash 3TH/s has 96 ASIC chips. They are mounted with 12 chips to a board, 2 boards to a module and 4 modules in this unit (I hope that all makes sense  Smiley )




er imho you should sell the unit for less  $$$ and include the option of getting it w/o the power supply (if you are compatible with standard supplies)
for shipping it also would help costs...knc did not ship power supplies w/units they said because it was an issue in some countries...ie they opened up the unit
and looked ? not sure why ...anyway it is on the KNC FAQ someplace

anyway could get your unit down in price and make it more competive imho a lot of us have no problems getting even a high end unit like
a corsair 1200i with enough notice of what is needed

anyway make it an option it will make your units more attractive in price and less hassle for you imho

Searing
hero member
Activity: 833
Merit: 1001
a video of a working miner for a start would be nice... Cheesy btw will you integrate bitpay?
legendary
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Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
Please don t pay attention to this gay loshia .he and his friend dropt are wasting time around talking no sense


just read their posts

please pm about volume as we have some plans


thanks

I miss the ignore button also Grin
Papamoi is famous with first "open source ASIC chip" and a lot more funny things. Do not waste your time to follow his posts. But in case you want some fun I strongly advise you to follow mines
Best

I find good data from both of you. And you're both irritating. Such is the way of things, I guess. I only have one guy on ignore on this whole forum.

On topic, this is very interesting. If y'all are real, you'll give Bitmain some serious competition. Best of luck!
legendary
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sounds great.
hero member
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Merit: 500
 Grin thread hijacking?
newbie
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Merit: 0
I was recommended by papamoi to this post from another post which is selling Jingtian 28nm 1T miner Jingtian https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470386.20  and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=466254.40

bitcoinultra, I am wondering if you have your 28nm miners running and if so how stable it is. I followed here and did not find this info I needed. From Jingtian 28nm miner post, they have a link showing their 60T miners running in a pool in last 2 weeks and the status shows very stable which convinced me.





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