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Quote from: Slow death on January 08, 2022, 06:26:43 PM

I'm from Africa and in my country, for example, in January there is rain and the league is stopped because of the holidays, this January calendar has always been a reason for disagreement, this is more tradition than the weather, many African leagues have already complained about this January calendar that should change to June or July, even my country has complained about this January calendar. in any case what we will see will be a poor quality soccer unfortunately

Exactly!

I hope they change the timing with which they play AFCON in the coming years, otherwise it will continue to be less popular. For example, I am a soccer fanatic, but I don't even know who the current reigning Champions of AFCON are, minus consulting google. Shocked

It gets bad when players have to choose between their European league teams or the home country teams Angry

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Quote from: logfiles on January 08, 2022, 05:15:58 PM

Anyway, my major argument is mostly why AFCON has always been played in January in different Hosting African countries. If it's rainy in Cameroon in June. I don't think it's the same case in Mali, or Egypt or South Africa.

I'm from Africa and in my country, for example, in January there is rain and the league is stopped because of the holidays, this January calendar has always been a reason for disagreement, this is more tradition than the weather, many African leagues have already complained about this January calendar that should change to June or July, even my country has complained about this January calendar. in any case what we will see will be a poor quality soccer unfortunately

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 08, 2022, 03:32:26 PM

These countries barely get a drop of rainfall it's summer most of the time but the morning cold will knock you out

If they experience summer, then they must be experiencing Autumn, spring and winter. Is this the case in the tropics too? I always thought Countries in the tropics only experience Dry and wet season. Not Summer, winter and the likes.

Anyway, my major argument is mostly why AFCON has always been played in January in different Hosting African countries. If it's rainy in Cameroon in June. I don't think it's the same case in Mali, or Egypt or South Africa.

Personally, I think the weather is a small excuse. I don't think the whole of Africa can be experiencing heavy rains in June/July. I watch International news sometimes but in most cases, countries that are even affected by hostile down pours are usually from Asia.

The weather that I think is the most hostile for football is probably winter. But games can continue under rain in most cases.

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Then player's had got lots to do for themselves, in other to prevent themselves from COVID-19.
Recently Covid cases hitting hard and differently.

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According to this report CAF has increased the number of substitutions in a match to 5 players amidst the increasing numbers of Covid-19 cases, recall many of the participating countries had some infected players, funny enough one of the rules stated if a country could not produce eleven players in a particular match may be due to covid-19 that team should have considered losing the match 2-0, covid-19 is really having an impact on this upcoming African Nation Cup some key players might not taste action or sidelined due to the pandemic thus such matches wouldn't be competitive to watch.
Link: https://www.cafonline.com/total-africa-cup-of-nations/news/totalenergies-afcon-202-update-on-number-of-substitutions-and-minimum-number-of-

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Quote from: logfiles on January 08, 2022, 03:04:14 PM

I would understand if the reason it's played in January is because of the weather in Cameroon, which seems to be in the Tropics (if my general knowledge of African Geography still serves me well)

Yeah it was originally meant to be played in June/july but weather condition was considered.

Quote from: logfiles on January 08, 2022, 03:04:14 PM

But over the years, I don't think Cameroon has been the only country hosting AFCON. So I don't think the weather is the same throughout Africa in January or July/June for that matter

Now is summer most of the African countries, the weather is slightly different between the countries on the west the Winter season is withing March, May, June and July.

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Anybody from Africa confirm this. Do countries in sub-Saharan Africa experience Winter or Summer?
I am pretty sure there are counties the barely get any rain in the sub-saharan region.

These countries barely get a drop of rainfall it's summer most of the time but the morning cold will knock you out

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Quote from: Harkorede on January 08, 2022, 08:49:06 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on January 07, 2022, 01:54:52 PM

We only have rainy and dry seasons in Africa, and both are suitable for football games, but we will not modify our calendar to accommodate some of our players who are playing elsewhere! No way! We set our date to accommodate all the leagues in Africa.

Then I'd say you're the one being ignorant here, African Cup of Nations have never been about accommodating leagues in Africa alone ?! Do you know know that almost all leagues in Africa are on right now including Nigeria and Ghana just to name a few, why would African Nations Cup be on when the attention of the fans would be divided by their national league ? even for publicity and exposure that's not a wise decision. Africa already have two tournaments in place for home and national based players already CHAN and WAFU.

I repeat the major reason from AFCON is been held in January have always been about the weather it's easier to play in winter (dry season as you'd have it), than rainy season (summer), how many countries have multiple standard pitches that can be used consecutively during the rainy season ?!

And Just so you know: This edition of the Tournament was meant to be played in the Summer of 2021 after it was initially postponed.

Quote from: https://en.as.com/en/2022/01/07/soccer/1641563277_606333.html

Initially due to be played in summer 2021, the 33rd edition of the Cup of Nations was first moved to January and February 2021 due to the “unfavourable climatic conditions” in Cameroon in June and July, before covid-19 forced the Confederation of African Football (CAF) to postpone the event until the start of 2022

I would understand if the reason it's played in January is because of the weather in Cameroon, which seems to be in the Tropics (if my general knowledge of African Geography still serves me well)

But over the years, I don't think Cameroon has been the only country hosting AFCON. So I don't think the weather is the same throughout Africa in January or July/June for that matter

Anybody from Africa confirm this. Do countries in sub-Saharan Africa experience Winter or Summer?
I am pretty sure there are counties the barely get any rain in the sub-saharan region.

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One good introduction I love in the Afcon is the introduction of VAR!!
Ain't this the first time such a technology is gon be used in the Afcon ? A great improvement and addition once more.
Should be nineteen to twenty hours to the first Afcon game... Anticipating already Roll Eyes

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I dont know how this can end because of:
1) Its football, anything can pass.
2) Missing players for Covid

After say this, i think the more balanced team are the "arabs" teams like Morocco , Algeria, Egypt and maybe Senegal.

So the champion for me its between these four teams.

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@Igehhh, winning the previous African Cup of Nations won't put them at the top of the chart.... I'm not certain,but then don't think that's the best way they can get up there,they have to be solid from defense to attack, a huge load there you see.......a good example is Belgium Cool

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Nigerians are no where near it, they're not ready what's and where's the motivation ? Not with them present government ? Chuckles!!!

A good example Salima Mukansanga has shown out to other feminine genders, she's had several officiating also at junior world Cup (female)

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Quote from: Gasty4 on January 08, 2022, 10:06:04 AM

Rwanda's Salima Mukansanga aged 33, will become the first woman to officiate at the Afcon tournament in Cameron.
My favorites for the Afcon will be ; Algeria, Nigeria, Senegal, Egypt, Ghana, Cameroon and Ivory Coast.

Wow this nice one from CAF I've always wanted to see more of the women referees in men's games

Lol are you joking? You selected potential winner's? These are potential champions because I'm not expecting an upset this year; the last upset was Zambia winning the trophy a few years ago, shocking the entire world. I'm rooting for Nigeria and Senegal, but I'm afraid of Algeria because they're still unbeaten and look likely to retain the trophy.

Quote from: Gasty4 on January 08, 2022, 10:06:04 AM

Algerians going to the Afcon with unbeaten run of 34 game's,

That is an incredible record, however they are ranked fourth in Africa behind Senegal and Tunisia, despite winning the most recent AFCON. Tunisia has done nothing in the last decade to even make the top three.

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Quote from: Ebede on January 08, 2022, 08:09:42 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on January 07, 2022, 10:42:53 AM

Great question! I think that if this tournament was held during the breaks in the national championships, then it would be of interest to a much larger number of spectators. Plus I'm sure Liverpool, for example, are very unhappy that their main star Salah will miss a few EPL matches because of this tournament.

And I'm Manchester United fan I very much happy he is absent during this periods of the premier league.
He's been a great threat to defender's, you ain't talking much about Mane, why's that ?
You should be praying he comes back without an injury or Covid, the Afcon seems to be very hard.

I also root for United in the EPL, but what's the point of rooting against Liverpool now? I don’t think United is currently competing with Liverpool and if I cheer against someone it’s City Wink

As for Manet, it’s not a matter of personalities, but in general, the approach I’m talking about - the clubs are suffering from the African Cup, this is a fact.

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Rwanda's Salima Mukansanga aged 33, will become the first woman to officiate at the Afcon tournament in Cameron.
My favorites for the Afcon will be ; Algeria, Nigeria, Senegal, Egypt, Ghana, Cameroon and Ivory Coast.
https://www.kick442.com/salima-mukansanga-set-to-become-first-woman-referee-at-afcon/

Algerians going to the Afcon with unbeaten run of 34 game's, Championed by Manchester City player Mahrez.
Prior to the tournament, Nigeria has been one of the best during this Afcon.
Senegal having a great squad will do better,with Sadio Mane and Koulibaly leading the backline.
Egypt will come with full confidence having Salah alongside them he's actually the best player in European football currently Grin

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Quote from: Harkorede on January 08, 2022, 08:49:06 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on January 07, 2022, 01:54:52 PM

We only have rainy and dry seasons in Africa, and both are suitable for football games, but we will not modify our calendar to accommodate some of our players who are playing elsewhere! No way! We set our date to accommodate all the leagues in Africa.

Then I'd say you're the one being ignorant here, African Cup of Nations have never been about accommodating leagues in Africa alone ?! Do you know know that almost all leagues in Africa are on right now including Nigeria and Ghana just to name a few, why would African Nations Cup be on when the attention of the fans would be divided by their national league ? even for publicity and exposure that's not a wise decision. Africa already have two tournaments in place for home and national based players already CHAN and WAFU.

And that's because Covid19 messed with most of the main leagues' calendars, and there was no better moment than now given other competitions coming up, and to be clear, most of Europe's top five leagues work with the same or almost the same calendar, unlike African leagues, I too, would like to see the AFCON time fixed at a very convenient time, similar to the Euros and other competitions, but the level of corruption in CAF is a topic for another post. You do, however, make some sense.

Quote from: Harkorede on January 08, 2022, 08:49:06 AM

I repeat the major reason from AFCON is been held in January have always been about the weather it's easier to play in winter (dry season as you'd have it), than rainy season (summer), how many countries have multiple standard pitches that can be used consecutively during the rainy season ?!

There are standards stadiums all over the Africa, don't say something you don't know about they had hosted both the female, male under 17, 20, and main world up and we all observed the excellent standards of field that the competition was played in. It low compared to the European stadiums though but they are fine for football.

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And Just so you know: This edition of the Tournament was meant to be played in the Summer of 2021 after it was initially postponed.

Every human knows this!

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 07, 2022, 01:54:52 PM

We only have rainy and dry seasons in Africa, and both are suitable for football games, but we will not modify our calendar to accommodate some of our players who are playing elsewhere! No way! We set our date to accommodate all the leagues in Africa.

Then I'd say you're the one being ignorant here, African Cup of Nations have never been about accommodating leagues in Africa alone ?! Do you know know that almost all leagues in Africa are on right now including Nigeria and Ghana just to name a few, why would African Nations Cup be on when the attention of the fans would be divided by their national league ? even for publicity and exposure that's not a wise decision. Africa already have two tournaments in place for home and national based players already CHAN and WAFU.

I repeat the major reason from AFCON is been held in January have always been about the weather it's easier to play in winter (dry season as you'd have it), than rainy season (summer), how many countries have multiple standard pitches that can be used consecutively during the rainy season ?!

And Just so you know: This edition of the Tournament was meant to be played in the Summer of 2021 after it was initially postponed.

Quote from: https://en.as.com/en/2022/01/07/soccer/1641563277_606333.html

Initially due to be played in summer 2021, the 33rd edition of the Cup of Nations was first moved to January and February 2021 due to the “unfavourable climatic conditions” in Cameroon in June and July, before covid-19 forced the Confederation of African Football (CAF) to postpone the event until the start of 2022

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I've responded to to question like this on the other thread so I just leave it here.

@Harkorede We play AFCON every January, and this has been the case for a long time; the month is consistent.

Quote from: logfiles on January 06, 2022, 06:13:16 PM

I have a burning question about the timing of the AFCON tournament.

Why is it always played when Major league seasons are underway and not when seasons have ended, just like the Euros, Copa América and World cup tournaments?

Quote from: Harkorede on January 06, 2022, 06:28:52 PM

I think it due to the weather conditions in Cameroon, winter is the most suitable season for the tournament in the country and due to the World Cup coming up later this year.

Quote from: Igebotz on January 07, 2022, 01:54:52 PM

We only have rainy and dry seasons in Africa, and both are suitable for football games, but we will not modify our calendar to accommodate some of our players who are playing elsewhere! No way! We set our date to accommodate all the leagues in Africa. It would make no sense if all tournaments were held at the same time and no club had the authority to excuse a player from international duty unless specifically specified in their contract agreement.

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Quote from: logfiles on January 07, 2022, 02:47:16 AM

I think they need to change the timing to the period Euros and Copa América tournaments take place.

Summer starts from somewhere June.Both euro and copa America starts from June and end July. In Africa that period is heavy rain.The rain will disturb the broadcast. The rain will affect the stadium and people that want to watch. That is why the tournament is not played that time. The world can respect Africa to give them two or three weeks break to play their tournament if they value Africa.

Rain? I always thought it is more about very high temperatures but I am from Europe what do I know

I associate heavy rains with Asia more than Africa.
It is not about lack of respect, as much as lack of time. Professional footballers schedule is overcrowded and everybody is pushing for even more games. More games = more money, it is that simple and then it is impossible to stop whole leagues so that a couple of players from couple of clubs can go to AFCON.

Yeah yeah.... having both raining and dry season.
At the point in time,it's clearly called dry season mostly,and this is the best time for the African Cup of Nations to be held.
Playing during the raining season irks me big time,you won't find it easy to play soccer under such weather condition.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 07, 2022, 10:42:53 AM

Quote from: logfiles on January 06, 2022, 06:13:16 PM

I have a burning question about the timing of the AFCON tournament.

Why is it always played when Major league seasons are underway and not when seasons have ended, just like the Euros, Copa América and World cup tournaments?

Doesn't this create unfair advantage to the tournament, making it even much less popular as all focus is on the leagues?

Great question! I think that if this tournament was held during the breaks in the national championships, then it would be of interest to a much larger number of spectators. Plus I'm sure Liverpool, for example, are very unhappy that their main star Salah will miss a few EPL matches because of this tournament.

And I'm Manchester United fan I very much happy he is absent during this periods of the premier league.
He's been a great threat to defender's, you ain't talking much about Mane, why's that ?
You should be praying he comes back without an injury or Covid, the Afcon seems to be very hard.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on January 07, 2022, 09:08:50 AM

This can be a big challenge to nigeria not having top players for tournament.

I don't think it will affect the outcome of the competition so much, If you are Nigerian, you should know that the country is very blessed with super talented home based players that are hungry to perform. Get those home based players and put them out on the pitch, with good tactics, they will perform. Top players can inspire other players in a team, but it is not an assurance of victory. A better assurance of victory is when the entire players in a team are playing well.

First games of the Tournament are Cameroon v Burkina Faso and Ethiopia v Cape Verde Starting on Sunday (Jan 9th 2022) - Drop your predictions.

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Quote from: logfiles on January 06, 2022, 06:13:16 PM

I have a burning question about the timing of the AFCON tournament.

Why is it always played when Major league seasons are underway and not when seasons have ended, just like the Euros, Copa América and World cup tournaments?

Doesn't this create unfair advantage to the tournament, making it even much less popular as all focus is on the leagues?

Great question! I think that if this tournament was held during the breaks in the national championships, then it would be of interest to a much larger number of spectators. Plus I'm sure Liverpool, for example, are very unhappy that their main star Salah will miss a few EPL matches because of this tournament.

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