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Quote from: Gasty4 on January 04, 2022, 11:12:26 PM

This is a quote from Paul Ince "The best players in European football are currently Africans".
That's to say if you're not watching the African Cup of Nations in few days, you're doing your eyes bad
Africans jetting back to join their various countries already.

I have heard and seen similar quotes throughout the last years. Already in the 2010 South Africa World Cup everybody said that it's time for the great breakthrough for African teams, but here we are 12 years later still waiting. I guess one problem is, that while they might have the best individual players, their teams are less well organized and the quality is not consistent in the teams (in comparison with South American and European national teams).

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This is a quote from Paul Ince "The best players in European football are currently Africans".
That's to say if you're not watching the African Cup of Nations in few days, you're doing your eyes bad
Africans jetting back to join their various countries already.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 04, 2022, 04:01:31 AM

Quote from: coco23 on January 03, 2022, 10:26:47 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on January 03, 2022, 06:47:38 AM

Yes it is. The result of the group matches is clear even before the start of the championship. But this problem is common for most tournaments - even in the Champions League where it is very rare to get competitive groups and very rarely when the underdogs make it to the playoffs.

Yea this is true. Although most of the time there are a few surprise teams in tournaments kicking out the big players.
Often there is also at least 1 or 2 very strong group with 3 big teams where one has to be eliminated, but this doesn't seem to be the case for the Africa Cup this year. Let's see how it goes

This situation is not encouraging. Perhaps Salah is not very happy with the fact that because of these formal games he will miss several rounds in the EPL and perhaps Liverpool will lose all chances of fighting for the championship during the African Cup. Egypt is considered the favorite in the tournament, and Salah is the favorite in the scorers' race, but it seems to me that the prestige of this competition is not very great.

Maybe.I think the African Cup lately in these last couple of tournaments have been very competitive.I would not just rate Egypt to be the main favorite here.Teams like Ivory Coast,Senegal,Cameroon,Algeria and Tunisia have all very good players that can make a difference in this tournament.Of course they maybe not in the level of Salah but they are great overall players and they usually excel when playing with the national teams.This competition is well respected in the African continent and it is from such competitions that players like Drogba and a couple of others became well known.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 04, 2022, 04:01:31 AM

This situation is not encouraging. Perhaps Salah is not very happy with the fact that because of these formal games he will miss several rounds in the EPL and perhaps Liverpool will lose all chances of fighting for the championship during the African Cup. Egypt is considered the favorite in the tournament, and Salah is the favorite in the scorers' race, but it seems to me that the prestige of this competition is not very great.

Yea, this is pretty unfortunate. Many African players play in top teams, but somehow their national teams are never really successful in World Cups. This fact is shadowing the whole Africa Cup of course.
Personally I am looking forward to an exciting and open-ended tournament

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Quote from: coco23 on January 03, 2022, 10:26:47 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on January 03, 2022, 06:47:38 AM

Yes it is. The result of the group matches is clear even before the start of the championship. But this problem is common for most tournaments - even in the Champions League where it is very rare to get competitive groups and very rarely when the underdogs make it to the playoffs.

Yea this is true. Although most of the time there are a few surprise teams in tournaments kicking out the big players.
Often there is also at least 1 or 2 very strong group with 3 big teams where one has to be eliminated, but this doesn't seem to be the case for the Africa Cup this year. Let's see how it goes

This situation is not encouraging. Perhaps Salah is not very happy with the fact that because of these formal games he will miss several rounds in the EPL and perhaps Liverpool will lose all chances of fighting for the championship during the African Cup. Egypt is considered the favorite in the tournament, and Salah is the favorite in the scorers' race, but it seems to me that the prestige of this competition is not very great.

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For me the results of this competition are going to be a surprise, because there are some good candidates here.

In group A, Cameroon looks a predictable bet.

Group B, Senegal is pretty strong with some players from european clubs like Chelsea, PSG and Liverpool.

Group C brings Ghana which has a strong history and tradition of participation in international competitions, reaching to the quarter finals on the world cup of 2010 against Uruguay.

Group D will be an interesting one though, because I see Egypt and Nigeria are going to star an intense duel for the top position of the group. Egypt has the one who is considered the best player of the entire competition, but Nigeria might have a more balanced team with history and tradition similar to Ghana in international soccer.

Group E must be between Algeria and Ivory Coast, as both teams star many names from european clubs on their lines.

And Group F looks the coldest one, without any major expectations... Maybe Tunisia can show some nice performance against its adversaries on this group with Hannibal Mejbri from Manchester United.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on January 03, 2022, 07:30:44 AM

Quote from: Newlifebtc on January 02, 2022, 11:22:32 PM

The competition kick starts in few days, six day if I'm correct.
Hope y'all had your bets down for Egypt ?
They have got Salah, with his pace and goal scoring abilities, they can win this.

Mo' salah is just one out of eleven players in the Egyptian team, whose to say his effect/presence will be big on the team, there are many other Africans as well with very good goal scoring ability and pace, but those qualities alone are not enough to win the AFCON, you need a good balanced playing "team" as well as and a tactical coach to win. The anticipation for the cup to kick off is high, i hope it offers some quality standard football matches that can proof to everyone that the AFCON is still something to watch.

Even at that salah is a very good player, his good performance can still affect the team. I have come across many teams who just have one good player and it covers up for the team. You never can tell the present of salah can play a role for Egypt by gingering other player. It has always been like that bro.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 03, 2022, 06:47:38 AM

Yes it is. The result of the group matches is clear even before the start of the championship. But this problem is common for most tournaments - even in the Champions League where it is very rare to get competitive groups and very rarely when the underdogs make it to the playoffs.

Yea this is true. Although most of the time there are a few surprise teams in tournaments kicking out the big players.
Often there is also at least 1 or 2 very strong group with 3 big teams where one has to be eliminated, but this doesn't seem to be the case for the Africa Cup this year. Let's see how it goes

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on January 02, 2022, 11:22:32 PM

The competition kick starts in few days, six day if I'm correct.
Hope y'all had your bets down for Egypt ?
They have got Salah, with his pace and goal scoring abilities, they can win this.

Mo' salah is just one out of eleven players in the Egyptian team, whose to say his effect/presence will be big on the team, there are many other Africans as well with very good goal scoring ability and pace, but those qualities alone are not enough to win the AFCON, you need a good balanced playing "team" as well as and a tactical coach to win. The anticipation for the cup to kick off is high, i hope it offers some quality standard football matches that can proof to everyone that the AFCON is still something to watch.

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on January 02, 2022, 11:22:32 PM

The competition kick starts in few days, six day if I'm correct.
Hope y'all had your bets down for Egypt ?
They have got Salah, with his pace and goal scoring abilities, they can win this.
I just can't stop anticipating for the African Cup of Nations.

The African Cup of Nations will start on January 9 to February 6, 2022, it seems that there will be many teams in the European leagues who will experience a cripple in their squad because they have to release players to participate in the african cup, so far I think if the English league clubs will definitely get more impact big because many African players are currently playing in the English league, I think Cameroon seems to be a strong candidate to win the Africa Cup of Nations, because apart from being the host, their players this year are also very good and evenly distributed in every line and Cameroon join in Group A of course it will make it easier for them due to getting a relatively weaker opponent.

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Quote from: coco23 on January 03, 2022, 06:10:11 AM

just checked the quotes and there is no clear favorite

Senegal 6.5
Algeria 7.0
Egypt 7.0
Ivory Coast 8.5
Kamerun 9.0
Nigeria 9.0
Morocco 10.0

It looks like it's gonna be an open tournament, at least from the final rounds on. It seems the groups are clearly divided into good and not-so-good teams...

Yes it is. The result of the group matches is clear even before the start of the championship. But this problem is common for most tournaments - even in the Champions League where it is very rare to get competitive groups and very rarely when the underdogs make it to the playoffs.
Just watched the odds on this tournament - bookmakers do not even accept bets on teams getting out of the group into the playoffs lol.

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just checked the quotes and there is no clear favorite

Senegal 6.5
Algeria 7.0
Egypt 7.0
Ivory Coast 8.5
Kamerun 9.0
Nigeria 9.0
Morocco 10.0

It looks like it's gonna be an open tournament, at least from the final rounds on. It seems the groups are clearly divided into good and not-so-good teams...

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on January 02, 2022, 11:22:32 PM

The competition kick starts in few days, six day if I'm correct.
Hope y'all had your bets down for Egypt ?
They have got Salah, with his pace and goal scoring abilities, they can win this.
I just can't stop anticipating for the African Cup of Nations.

Where are you going to watch the matches of this tournament? In my country, this tournament, to put it mildly, does not arouse any interest and is not in the TV program grid, so I will most likely follow the events (and this will only happen if I decide to place bets here) through text broadcasts.

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The competition kick starts in few days, six day if I'm correct.
Hope y'all had your bets down for Egypt ?
They have got Salah, with his pace and goal scoring abilities, they can win this.
I just can't stop anticipating for the African Cup of Nations.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 02, 2022, 04:02:56 AM

Nice to see the African Cup of Nations thread and looking at this campaigns tables that Nigerian group aint an easy one because it also has one of my favorite teams Egypt which means all teams in that group have an equal chance but if am going to pick a team based on ease of group it has to be Ivory Coast and they should be the defending champions if memory saves me right.

So much great talent in the ivorian team, from the backline to the midfielder's and attackers.
They are defending Champions doesn't mean they'll win the same way they did some years back.
With the introduction of Samuel Eto as president, I strongly believes they'll be push to win this for him,they are also a good side.
Algerians can be very deadly while creating chances, I'd love to watch all of their games.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 02, 2022, 04:02:56 AM

Nice to see the African Cup of Nations thread and looking at this campaigns tables that Nigerian group aint an easy one because it also has one of my favorite teams Egypt which means all teams in that group have an equal chance but if am going to pick a team based on ease of group it has to be Ivory Coast and they should be the defending champions if memory saves me right.

May the best team win. Also I am super glad that COVID-19 did not stop this tournament. I hope that many fresh players will be discovered during the game. My sincere desire is that everyone adhere to the COVID 19 protocols as well as security guidelines. In a couple of days the games will kick off with Cameroon Playing against Burkina Faso. I'm super excited because I will get to see some of my favorite EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 players in the field doing their magic

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 01, 2022, 05:49:31 PM

By the way, which group is considered the most interesting? I see that more or less interesting confrontations will take place in groups A and D.

It should be Group D as there's Nigeria and Egypt trying to top the group but all of a sudden the news coming from the Nigerian camp isn't encouraging and lets not forget they sacked their coach recently plus they'll be missing key players and this might affect their play.

Apparently, therefore, at the moment bookmakers are evaluating Nigeria as an underdog in the fight against Egypt:

Africa Cup of Nations Group D - Winner
Egypt - 1.72
Nigeria - 2.25

It is good (for Nigeria) that 2 teams qualify from the group (by the way, a few more best teams that took third place will also get into the playoffs) and the remaining 2 teams do not pose a serious danger.

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Nice to see the African Cup of Nations thread and looking at this campaigns tables that Nigerian group aint an easy one because it also has one of my favorite teams Egypt which means all teams in that group have an equal chance but if am going to pick a team based on ease of group it has to be Ivory Coast and they should be the defending champions if memory saves me right.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 31, 2021, 04:46:34 PM

as an African and as someone who has been following African soccer I can say that African soccer has no quality anymore, when I watch the games I get very angry with the poor quality of these games, players make mistakes that are very childish, there are few goals. this deficient system is linked to the corruption that exists in clubs in africa.

I am not African, but I find African footballers very successful. Individually, countries such as Ivory Coast, Nigeria, and Cameroon had football players who had a lot of influence on world football. For example, Didier Drogba, Taribo West, Amokachi, Okocha (These two are Nigerian football players who are very popular in Turkey.) Samuel Eto’o These were players who were in very good places in world football. That's why many teams send scout to the African Cup. The African Cup is perfect for discovering new talents. Although they have slightly lesser roles today, remember that Mo Salah is an African, Mbappe African Descent. Look at the French national team, they are all of African descent. That's why Africa is a very important continent for football.

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All of those are simply Speculations@Slow death,you should bring a prove then I'll agree to your claims about payment's been made before playing for your country.
It this for a particular country or all of the countries in Africa,off which I know is not true.
The best players in Europe are currently Africans so we have to accept that,you should have a change of mind about how you feel about Africa...They a good look at Salah,Mane, Haller of Ajax, Wilfried Ndidi of Leicester City, see the quality they bring to their respective clubs..!?!

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