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Taking into consideration that Ghana is not an easy team that could complicate the classification for Portugal, yes, you are absolutely right, at this moment it is difficult to determine how it will be to play against Portugal, there are still many days before the World Cup begins, sometimes we cannot take into account that the level that Portugal or Ghana have right now will be with the same performance that they will have in November, this is something that is difficult to determine, we do not know if Portugal or Ghana will play well or badly, for now what matters is uqe Portugal is clear that whether Ghana has a local coach or not, they will be a very hard team to beat.

At the moment, the quotes for which team will become the winner of the group are as follows:

Portugal - 1.65

Uruguay - 3.00

Ghana - 11.90

Republic of Korea - 11.90

As you can see, Ghana is a clear outsider, and Portugal is an indisputable favorite, so, presumably, in a personal meeting, Portugal will easily beat Ghana. And by the way, judging by the manner of the game, it looks like the truth - the Portuguese team will be extremely inconvenient for Ghana.

Yes, in fact, one of my favorite teams is Portugal, just like my Italy always is, but we must recognize that Ghana has a different level now, it is in the World Cup with a totally munidalist attitude, it has left African teams of much level behind and they are now shining, this is something salvageable that every Ghanaian has to see, and not just Ghanaians or Africans, I think if CR7 and his team do not know how to handle the level of stress that the white eagles can generate it could complicate them the classification and block the pass to the round of 16.


I believe that after a disastrous season for Ronaldo both on and off the pitch he’ll be keen to sign off with big win at the World Cup, though I don’t expect Portugal to make it to the finals but I’m expecting that he’ll definitely help them win most matches in the group stage.

Furthermore we will have to be cautious before making any predictions, as injury’s and form will be a big concern and I also wonder if fatigue will play it’s part, hence what do you’ll think will player’s be tired heading into this World Cup?.

Yes, in fact that is why I have not dared to make any predictions and it is not out of fear, it is because there are still many months to go until the World Cup arrives, and predictions can be made, but it is as you say, we do not know if from here to there there are injured players, some may not even go because of their injuries, it has happened to several players who are famous, I would really like to see CR7 win the soccer world cup, he has gone through difficult times, the misunderstanding that occurred with the child with autism, his own son who lost him while his wife was pregnant, I know that each person goes through really painful experiences, what happens is that he is a world figure and anything can be used against him. With regard to the rest of the players, I would like none of them to suffer injuries, it is good to play against their starting team and for all countries to have their players and their stars.


Yes, in fact, one of my favorite teams is Portugal, just like my Italy always is, but we must recognize that Ghana has a different level now, it is in the World Cup with a totally munidalist attitude, it has left African teams of much level behind and they are now shining, this is something salvageable that every Ghanaian has to see, and not just Ghanaians or Africans, I think if CR7 and his team do not know how to handle the level of stress that the white eagles can generate it could complicate them the classification and block the pass to the round of 16.

Maybe you're right, I haven't seen enough Ghana games to insist Portugal should beat them easily. And in general, when I saw the results of the draw, I thought that this group is one of the most uniform in strength participants. But as you can see from the quotes of the bookmakers, they have the opposite opinion. But in fact, this may be due to the fact that Portugal (after all, this is a big name in football) is always a lot of bets, regardless of their real strength, and bookmakers are forced to take this into account.
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I have also thought about the possibility that Ghana could beat Portugal, however, I think that CR7 will come out with all his might because it is his last World Cup, at least that is what he has made clear, but seeing the capabilities that he shows are far superior to of his age, this is something that the entire Portugal team will help him achieve his dream.
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At the moment, the quotes for which team will become the winner of the group are as follows:

Portugal - 1.65

Uruguay - 3.00

Ghana - 11.90

Republic of Korea - 11.90

As you can see, Ghana is a clear outsider, and Portugal is an indisputable favorite, so, presumably, in a personal meeting, Portugal will easily beat Ghana. And by the way, judging by the manner of the game, it looks like the truth - the Portuguese team will be extremely inconvenient for Ghana.

Yes, in fact, one of my favorite teams is Portugal, just like my Italy always is, but we must recognize that Ghana has a different level now, it is in the World Cup with a totally munidalist attitude, it has left African teams of much level behind and they are now shining, this is something salvageable that every Ghanaian has to see, and not just Ghanaians or Africans, I think if CR7 and his team do not know how to handle the level of stress that the white eagles can generate it could complicate them the classification and block the pass to the round of 16.

Maybe you're right, I haven't seen enough Ghana games to insist Portugal should beat them easily. And in general, when I saw the results of the draw, I thought that this group is one of the most uniform in strength participants. But as you can see from the quotes of the bookmakers, they have the opposite opinion. But in fact, this may be due to the fact that Portugal (after all, this is a big name in football) is always a lot of bets, regardless of their real strength, and bookmakers are forced to take this into account.
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Can also recall the one time FIFA president who was directly involved in fraud one way.
But in the case of Nigeria it is very high as you can see some of these ugly acts with your eyes.
Reasons I don't waste my precious time watching Nigerian game's.
How well with the African qualifiers ? Has anyone got a quick update to share ?

Honestly i never find the game more interesting ever since the super eagles couldn't make thier fly to Qatar and this is very disappointing, unless they NFF had a total revamp there may not be any tangible result to come out in Nigeria and ther most annoying of it all are the list of the qualifying countries like Senegal, Morocco, Ghana, Cameroon, Tunisia who could not even deliver upto half of the super eagles potentials except for Tunisia, well let's see how the finals will landed with other countries from Europe and the likes.
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I think Nigerians and the NFF need to believe in their own and shun these foreign coaches who come to Africa for money. The truth is these coaches lose nothing if the country don’t win anything but the local coaches lose pride, when the country don’t win. It's actually right to stick with the local coaches because the NFF and the minister of sports who's definitely a politician would advocate they get a foreign candidate they can get something from and probably pay lesser, leaving out the most qualified.
I think its time for the Nigerian government to take a drastic decision about its national team. Nigeria is blessed with countless good footballers yet they don't have a strong national team. My own suggestion is that the Nigerian Football Association should appoint a local coach. This coach should be sent on a training course in the one of the best football academy in the world. He should also be sent to a very good world class national team coach for apprenticeship and mentorship. This coach would return and select the best players both local and foreign based. This players would not play for any club. They would be fully dedicated to the national team. The government would pay them bonuses and allowances like foreign clubs. They would train together and play friendly matches with other national teams and foreign clubs. I bet you, Nigerian would have the strongest team in the world.
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Taking into consideration that Ghana is not an easy team that could complicate the classification for Portugal, yes, you are absolutely right, at this moment it is difficult to determine how it will be to play against Portugal, there are still many days before the World Cup begins, sometimes we cannot take into account that the level that Portugal or Ghana have right now will be with the same performance that they will have in November, this is something that is difficult to determine, we do not know if Portugal or Ghana will play well or badly, for now what matters is uqe Portugal is clear that whether Ghana has a local coach or not, they will be a very hard team to beat.

At the moment, the quotes for which team will become the winner of the group are as follows:

Portugal - 1.65

Uruguay - 3.00

Ghana - 11.90

Republic of Korea - 11.90

As you can see, Ghana is a clear outsider, and Portugal is an indisputable favorite, so, presumably, in a personal meeting, Portugal will easily beat Ghana. And by the way, judging by the manner of the game, it looks like the truth - the Portuguese team will be extremely inconvenient for Ghana.

Yes, in fact, one of my favorite teams is Portugal, just like my Italy always is, but we must recognize that Ghana has a different level now, it is in the World Cup with a totally munidalist attitude, it has left African teams of much level behind and they are now shining, this is something salvageable that every Ghanaian has to see, and not just Ghanaians or Africans, I think if CR7 and his team do not know how to handle the level of stress that the white eagles can generate it could complicate them the classification and block the pass to the round of 16.


I believe that after a disastrous season for Ronaldo both on and off the pitch he’ll be keen to sign off with big win at the World Cup, though I don’t expect Portugal to make it to the finals but I’m expecting that he’ll definitely help them win most matches in the group stage.

Furthermore we will have to be cautious before making any predictions, as injury’s and form will be a big concern and I also wonder if fatigue will play it’s part, hence what do you’ll think will player’s be tired heading into this World Cup?.
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Taking into consideration that Ghana is not an easy team that could complicate the classification for Portugal, yes, you are absolutely right, at this moment it is difficult to determine how it will be to play against Portugal, there are still many days before the World Cup begins, sometimes we cannot take into account that the level that Portugal or Ghana have right now will be with the same performance that they will have in November, this is something that is difficult to determine, we do not know if Portugal or Ghana will play well or badly, for now what matters is uqe Portugal is clear that whether Ghana has a local coach or not, they will be a very hard team to beat.

At the moment, the quotes for which team will become the winner of the group are as follows:

Portugal - 1.65

Uruguay - 3.00

Ghana - 11.90

Republic of Korea - 11.90

As you can see, Ghana is a clear outsider, and Portugal is an indisputable favorite, so, presumably, in a personal meeting, Portugal will easily beat Ghana. And by the way, judging by the manner of the game, it looks like the truth - the Portuguese team will be extremely inconvenient for Ghana.

Yes, in fact, one of my favorite teams is Portugal, just like my Italy always is, but we must recognize that Ghana has a different level now, it is in the World Cup with a totally munidalist attitude, it has left African teams of much level behind and they are now shining, this is something salvageable that every Ghanaian has to see, and not just Ghanaians or Africans, I think if CR7 and his team do not know how to handle the level of stress that the white eagles can generate it could complicate them the classification and block the pass to the round of 16.

I think Nigerians and the NFF need to believe in their own and shun these foreign coaches who come to Africa for money.

This I just heard you say money? well if you choose that as a choice then i think that's base on your personal conviction but one thing am rest assured of, that the level of insanity in the Africans is abit higher than the foreign when considering football and how the engaged politics to it in disguise, I've seen many female athletics and footballer doing quite alright but having a female coach or as an assistant coach will still in a long way make a difference and preferably this time, a foreign one.

It will always be difficult to fight against those who have the most money, for now in football, as in any sport, money and those who have the most influence are the ones who will have the most access to the sport and its privileges, saying no to a foreigner is sometimes like saying no to sponsorship and the growth of players, teams, technical staff, sometimes it's good to see it from that point of view.

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The European football authorities have been complicit in corruption for years and apparently a lot is swept under the carpet. UEFA and world football body hardly investigate cases involving top European countries correctly but when it's Africa and South America they throw their weight into it, investigate and place sanctions or bans swiftly.
It is very difficult indeed because when they say about this, most of the people in power and their top brass are among teams in Europe, so when this is investigated, it is very likely that those who are investigating will be affected differently from America and Africa, which are still quite It's rare and football, apart from being not as famous as in Europe, is indeed the right place to take action and make it look as if they are corrupt people working properly.


Reflecting on the case a few years ago where the FIFA president was entangled in a corruption case, this has re-emerged in the world of European football, although currently it has not been fully proven.but football is currently very vulnerable to a corruption process where many high-ranking officials are involved in the case, especially on the European continent with very high corruption cases, especially in football but this is different from other continents where especially Africa and Latin America we have never heard of such things in several continents outside Europe
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That's bad, they should bring people who can do the job better,  if politics is involved in football it won't take the team to anywhere. I wonder why they should retain him when it is clear with èvidence that he is not good for the work.


It is not that they do not know the right thing to do. They want to keep recircling the old hands there. If you know the level of corruption that goes on at Nigerian football house you will be shocked. Everybody knows that these people do not have the interest of football at heart. Austin Egueavon gets paid regularly and he is not owed any salaries so it is not much of a concern to him what happens with our football. For football to grow in this country a foreign coach will be better because we respect foreign coaches more than local coaches. 

Nigeria has to double up it efforts in the race of football nowadays, the ways they have been playing need to change drastically, am quite  assured there might be politics involved but as you've said there's a need to involve a foreign coach who is not black at all, they need to train super eagles without being bias and change their match orientation along with their playing strategies, a new wine cant taste good when in an old wine skin.
Nigeria has good players and it is a good team . The problem of Nigeria football has always been be politics, I guess why Nigeria didn't qualify is because of the coach they have , he lack strategies as a coach that was the problem Nigeria had then ,I just hope the new coach will transform the team.
I think Nigerians and the NFF need to believe in their own and shun these foreign coaches who come to Africa for money. The truth is these coaches lose nothing if the country don’t win anything but the local coaches lose pride, when the country don’t win. It's actually right to stick with the local coaches because the NFF and the minister of sports who's definitely a politician would advocate they get a foreign candidate they can get something from and probably pay lesser, leaving out the most qualified.
But the former coach is a Nigerian he did nothing , he made the team to loss in the afcon and and the Fifa qualifier. Home coach are not serious , Nigeria  team have done better with foreign coaches.
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Reasons I don't waste my precious time watching Nigerian game's.

It is the same with me. I prefer to listen to Nigeria matches on radio than watch them live on television. You will shout and scream and at the end attract unnecessary anxiety to your self over nothing. It is not advisable for anyone who is hypertensive to keep watching live matches of Nigeria's Super Eagles.

How well with the African qualifiers ? Has anyone got a quick update to share ?

What qualifiers again are you talking about? The qualified African countries are already known and they are Ghana, Cameroon, Senegal, Tunisia and Morocco.
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The European football authorities have been complicit in corruption for years and apparently a lot is swept under the carpet. UEFA and world football body hardly investigate cases involving top European countries correctly but when it's Africa and South America they throw their weight into it, investigate and place sanctions or bans swiftly.
It is very difficult indeed because when they say about this, most of the people in power and their top brass are among teams in Europe, so when this is investigated, it is very likely that those who are investigating will be affected differently from America and Africa, which are still quite It's rare and football, apart from being not as famous as in Europe, is indeed the right place to take action and make it look as if they are corrupt people working properly.
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I think Nigerians and the NFF need to believe in their own and shun these foreign coaches who come to Africa for money. The truth is these coaches lose nothing if the country don’t win anything but the local coaches lose pride, when the country don’t win.
You bring out a very valid point in terms of a coaches pride and what not when a home team wins, but I want to believe these football houses these days pick their coaches based on football coach certification of which the local coaches might not have...besides having a foreign coach has its on advantages as new football techniques are taught and easier ways of going about with their daily trainings are introduced which is a win win for everyone at the end of the day.
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Can also recall the one time FIFA president who was directly involved in fraud one way.
But in the case of Nigeria it is very high as you can see some of these ugly acts with your eyes.
Reasons I don't waste my precious time watching Nigerian game's.
How well with the African qualifiers ? Has anyone got a quick update to share ?
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Well, with regard to corruption, this is something normal, it happens not only in Africa, in South America, Europe is still happening, as soon as you see some games for the Conmebol classification for the world cup, irregularities are seen that are impressive, in Every local tournament, whether from any country or continent, always spreads corruption, dirty money and everything that can make others rich in the name of soccer, and it is not only in soccer, in all sports there is that corruption, I understand that sometimes coaches or technicians from other countries are not sought, because it represents more expense, but sometimes it is necessary for them to bring another style model, and they can grow.

In order to prove that all football is saturated with corruption, one does not have to be Sherlock Holmes. Where the benefits are created by one (clubs) and officials (UEFA and FIFA) manage the results, there will always be corruption. Naturally, in troubled countries like Nigeria, this takes absolutely terrible forms. To change this situation, it is necessary to change not the style or people, but the business model - business should be run by businessmen and not by officials, so we are waiting for the appearance of the Superleague.
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That's bad, they should bring people who can do the job better,  if politics is involved in football it won't take the team to anywhere. I wonder why they should retain him when it is clear with èvidence that he is not good for the work.

It is not that they do not know the right thing to do. They want to keep recircling the old hands there. If you know the level of corruption that goes on at Nigerian football house you will be shocked. Everybody knows that these people do not have the interest of football at heart. Austin Egueavon gets paid regularly and he is not owed any salaries so it is not much of a concern to him what happens with our football. For football to grow in this country a foreign coach will be better because we respect foreign coaches more than local coaches. 

Well, with regard to corruption, this is something normal, it happens not only in Africa, in South America, Europe is still happening, as soon as you see some games for the Conmebol classification for the world cup, irregularities are seen that are impressive, in Every local tournament, whether from any country or continent, always spreads corruption, dirty money and everything that can make others rich in the name of soccer, and it is not only in soccer, in all sports there is that corruption, I understand that sometimes coaches or technicians from other countries are not sought, because it represents more expense, but sometimes it is necessary for them to bring another style model, and they can grow.

The European football authorities have been complicit in corruption for years and apparently a lot is swept under the carpet. UEFA and world football body hardly investigate cases involving top European countries correctly but when it's Africa and South America they throw their weight into it, investigate and place sanctions or bans swiftly.
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For football to grow in this country a foreign coach will be better because we respect foreign coaches more than local coaches.
I think Nigerians and the NFF need to believe in their own and shun these foreign coaches who come to Africa for money. The truth is these coaches lose nothing if the country don’t win anything but the local coaches lose pride, when the country don’t win.

How do they lose pride? You think Eguavoen feels he has lost anything? For them once they are getting their salaries they are okay. Black people are most times not after dignity. They just want to satisfy their selfish interest before national interest. Knowing he was not as qualified as Emmanuel Amunike why did he not allow Amunike to be in charge of the team? The shameful aspect is that Eguavoen only resigned as coach but he is still working as technical director for the football body. He is still getting paid by the government. Again a foreign coach will know how to discipline erring players more than local coaches who they can challenge and be stubborn to.

When i looked at the table earlier this morning to see other teams qualified for the next stage i shake my head, because we are better of more qualifications than most of the African teams but how could ordinary Ghana with low performance since the beginning cast us out just like that, i think this time around its not the change of coach that Nigeria needs but rather the entire crew, right from the coach down to the least employee of NFF needed to to filtered, our players are trying but why are we not seing result.
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For football to grow in this country a foreign coach will be better because we respect foreign coaches more than local coaches.
I think Nigerians and the NFF need to believe in their own and shun these foreign coaches who come to Africa for money. The truth is these coaches lose nothing if the country don’t win anything but the local coaches lose pride, when the country don’t win.

How do they lose pride? You think Eguavoen feels he has lost anything? For them once they are getting their salaries they are okay. Black people are most times not after dignity. They just want to satisfy their selfish interest before national interest. Knowing he was not as qualified as Emmanuel Amunike why did he not allow Amunike to be in charge of the team? The shameful aspect is that Eguavoen only resigned as coach but he is still working as technical director for the football body. He is still getting paid by the government. Again a foreign coach will know how to discipline erring players more than local coaches who they can challenge and be stubborn to.
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That's bad, they should bring people who can do the job better,  if politics is involved in football it won't take the team to anywhere. I wonder why they should retain him when it is clear with èvidence that he is not good for the work.

It is not that they do not know the right thing to do. They want to keep recircling the old hands there. If you know the level of corruption that goes on at Nigerian football house you will be shocked. Everybody knows that these people do not have the interest of football at heart. Austin Egueavon gets paid regularly and he is not owed any salaries so it is not much of a concern to him what happens with our football. For football to grow in this country a foreign coach will be better because we respect foreign coaches more than local coaches. 

Well, with regard to corruption, this is something normal, it happens not only in Africa, in South America, Europe is still happening, as soon as you see some games for the Conmebol classification for the world cup, irregularities are seen that are impressive, in Every local tournament, whether from any country or continent, always spreads corruption, dirty money and everything that can make others rich in the name of soccer, and it is not only in soccer, in all sports there is that corruption, I understand that sometimes coaches or technicians from other countries are not sought, because it represents more expense, but sometimes it is necessary for them to bring another style model, and they can grow.
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I think Nigerians and the NFF need to believe in their own and shun these foreign coaches who come to Africa for money.

This I just heard you say money? well if you choose that as a choice then i think that's base on your personal conviction but one thing am rest assured of, that the level of insanity in the Africans is abit higher than the foreign when considering football and how the engaged politics to it in disguise, I've seen many female athletics and footballer doing quite alright but having a female coach or as an assistant coach will still in a long way make a difference and preferably this time, a foreign one.
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That's bad, they should bring people who can do the job better,  if politics is involved in football it won't take the team to anywhere. I wonder why they should retain him when it is clear with èvidence that he is not good for the work.

It is not that they do not know the right thing to do. They want to keep recircling the old hands there. If you know the level of corruption that goes on at Nigerian football house you will be shocked. Everybody knows that these people do not have the interest of football at heart. Austin Egueavon gets paid regularly and he is not owed any salaries so it is not much of a concern to him what happens with our football. For football to grow in this country a foreign coach will be better because we respect foreign coaches more than local coaches. 

Nigeria has to double up it efforts in the race of football nowadays, the ways they have been playing need to change drastically, am quite  assured there might be politics involved but as you've said there's a need to involve a foreign coach who is not black at all, they need to train super eagles without being bias and change their match orientation along with their playing strategies, a new wine cant taste good when in an old wine skin.
Nigeria has good players and it is a good team . The problem of Nigeria football has always been be politics, I guess why Nigeria didn't qualify is because of the coach they have , he lack strategies as a coach that was the problem Nigeria had then ,I just hope the new coach will transform the team.
I think Nigerians and the NFF need to believe in their own and shun these foreign coaches who come to Africa for money. The truth is these coaches lose nothing if the country don’t win anything but the local coaches lose pride, when the country don’t win. It's actually right to stick with the local coaches because the NFF and the minister of sports who's definitely a politician would advocate they get a foreign candidate they can get something from and probably pay lesser, leaving out the most qualified.
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But it is not a easy thing to carry the country in he's shoulders.
Cristiano Ronaldo did this for Portugal anyways.
Africans are not real good good.
Every country must have great players to be able to boost their country so they can take their country further, in my opinion fate is what brought together the two liferpol stars in the world cup qualifiers, if only Egypt managed to qualify for the world cup, Sadio Mane fans will surely feel disappointed, and vice versa, but if the two countries are not met in the world cup qualifiers, it is likely that we can see their performance in the Qatar world cup, I don't agree if you say African football is not good, the proof is that there are a lot of African players who play good in Europe.
Never blame the players for not being able to bring their country to the world cup.
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