Topic: AI will put an end to work, says Elon Musk (Read 2071 times)

If we treat AI only as hardware that is incapable of improving, then humanity will be doomed to destruction from this AI.

A law on artificial intelligence has come into force in the EU, which is called the first such regulatory document in the world, which will hopefully serve as a first step in regulating robotics. It is noted that the law on artificial intelligence must guarantee the safety and respect for the fundamental rights of citizens in the process of developing artificial intelligence technologies.

The law stipulates that users must be clearly warned when interacting with chatbots rather than a live person, and label content generated by artificial intelligence. AI systems that are identified as risky will be required to follow additional rules and provide human oversight of the AI's "decisions." We are talking, in particular, about the use of technology in recruiting, assessing the possibility of providing a loan, etc. There is also a ban on AI systems that pose a threat to fundamental rights, including those that can be used to manipulate behavior, or allow the creation of a “social rating” by government agencies or companies.

The document stipulates that, by August 2, 2025, member countries must identify a body in the national system that will oversee compliance with this legislation. At the EU level, this will be the AI Office, as well as three advisory bodies - the European Artificial Intelligence Board, a council of independent experts that can send signals about observed risks, as well as an advisory forum including a wide range of stakeholders. Fines for companies for ignoring legal requirements can reach 7% of global annual turnover, for providing inaccurate information - up to 1.5%.

Most rules will apply from August 2, 2026, with a ban on AI systems considered an unacceptable risk six months later. Rules for so-called general purpose AI models will begin to apply in 12 months.

Yes, of course, no one can beat the creator of robots created by human hands and of course he will not be able to surpass human capacity, those who say that robots will take over humans are people who do not want to spend money to pay humans and they take advantage of that, human genius cannot be defeated by robots there will be many loopholes that can be used by humans to defeat robots, so I agree with you that robots are below humans.

Because basically robots are just iron that does not have reason and humans have it to think and try so in that aspect it is clear that robots are lower than humans.
So not all jobs can be replaced by robots as Elon Musk said.

You should not think that only humans are capable of learning and analyzing. Anything a human can do now, a robot will eventually be able to do, and robots will have the ability to outperform humans in almost everything, depending on the direction of their designs and programming.

In general, in my opinion, there is no need to be afraid that robots, displacing people from many of their current professions, will lead to the deprivation of income for many and will lead to a deterioration in the living conditions of many people. Yes, robots are capable of effectively replacing humans in many professions, and this will cause discomfort only during this period of replacing humans with robots. But GDP will increase and the quality of human life will increase. States will be able to make payments to people who will not be able to work, or services and food will become free in certain places. At the same time, a person will have more free time for other activities, because he will no longer spend eight hours a day earning a living.

However, as always, everything new has positive and negative sides. People must learn to keep robots under control by creating uniform laws and rules for robotics, limiting robots to special programs. In science fiction of the last century, when the idea of humanoid robots was truly complete fantasy, three laws of robotics were named, which in the form of programs were implanted into each robot and the first of them read: “A robot can never, under any circumstances, cause harm to a person.” . This is probably where everything is heading, and books about humanoid robots were written by people who had the ability to move around in time. Robots can bring great benefits to humans, but they must be under his complete control. Otherwise, human civilization may once again disappear on our planet.

Unfortunately, this is may be completely incorrect, given the level of development that this technology is expected to reach.

Artificial intelligence can work on development.

Let's analyze some simple concepts: The human brain can work on developing things through its experiences and knowledge, which can be summarized in the form of data stored in complex nerve cells. Of course, we are still unable to understand how brain works in analyzing data and extracting results, but it is proven that it cannot develop or innovate anything without referring to that stock of data.
This is exactly what happens with artificial intelligence, which provides results according to the data stored after processing it. And with the increase in the size of the data, the ability of artificial intelligence to develop will become terrifying, since it analyzes data that perhaps exceeds the size of the data available to the brain of any one of us (with the difference, of course, in the speed of analysis, because the brain still does this faster).

There are real fears that we will reach the point where we are no longer able to control these machines and that their capabilities will develop to the point where they become able to make decisions despite our will.
Some people go further in their analysis, which is that machines are the creatures that will rule the earth after taking all the functions from humans, and their development may lead them to eliminate them since they will no longer be of any benefit.

It's impossible for artificial intelligence to take over every job , there are still jobs that require human input and experience, a robot or ai is programmed by a human being, it doesn't have the capacity to perform some special tasks like humans, I believe that ai will only take over in just a few aspects... it's believed by a lot of people that these ai's might tend to outsmart humans and try to take over the world...it might just be science fiction or is there some atom of reality in this?

The main risk is that a malfunction causes loss of control from using AI. The impact of a malfunction is very fatal if it occurs in vehicle control or factory machines developed with AI technology, which can cause major damage. However, AI is still under development and there are still many shortcomings, but we have to admit that AI has helped human activities, but every company is still considering adopting the use of AI because they still rely on human labor to work for the company. Potentially in the next 5 years, almost all top companies will use AI for their workers and unfortunately they will reduce the need for workers to save on the company's budget.

This is not really about elon because if you look at this everyone is entitled to their own opinion their are people that might be in support of the use of AI and even if you are not in support most company are very much interested in the use of AI because it reduces cost they don't mind spending a lot of money for them to aquire. Just to cut down the cost of labour. The only reason I see why humans are important is that Ai can have default and act on its own due to errors. Imagine have Ai even in the military just imagine what will happen if Ai should malfunction their will be lose of life because they don even have feelings so they will do things, without thinking wether humans will feel hurt or not. That is why we are different from them. And that is people are not in total support of it, and even elon uses AY, especially in tesla. He should stop his criticism.

You might not like or trust Musk and that's fine, but what he says is no different from what actual experts on the matter say. I challenge you to find a single expert who actually has some expertise in the development of AI (and automation) who would claim that human labour is irreplaceable. Maybe you could find a few of such a decade ago, but nowadays most agree that pretty much every area of work will get replaced eventually.
And given that progress happens exponentially, saying that we need another 100 years for this to become a problem is a massive downplay. Sure, there always be *some* jobs left, but if you can't have a functioning society where the majority of people have nothing to do.

Just because Elon might have invested in a few ai companies does not make him exceptionally knowledgeable about the future of AI. He might know slightly more than the average person, as things will have been explained to him in layman's terms, but intelligence wise he is not the one putting the technical work in to advance the technology. If you're talking a hundred years down the line, sure AI might be heading that direction, but right now it is just nibbling away at certain work sectors and is demonstrating flaws such as a bias it might have picked up from all the stuff it has ingested. Elon loves to pretend he is an expert in many fields, but is quite fickle and has cursory information that he tries to project into higher meaning.

Sometimes I wonder if the world is ready for such big changes. Big changes take a long time and may cause problems for people to get used to or accept the situation. The development of technology is inevitable and its progress is accelerating every day. Artificial intelligence manifests itself in many business lines.

If the employee does not have an area to improve himself, problems may arise. If artificial intelligence does the job of an employee at a lower cost, layoffs will be considered. The human factor should always be involved in the process, but in some cases, change occurs even if it takes a long time.

Repeating after Elon is like repeating after Donald Trump. Dont waste yourself.

This is nothing but wishful thinking.
I don't think you can find any serious expert on the matter claiming that human labour is, for some magical reason, irreplaceable. I think by now everyone understands what the technology is capable of and it's not a matter of if, but when.
The argument that automation in the past didn't make people's work obsolete is silly. Just because something hasn't yet happened, doesn't mean it will never happen. We have unprecedented things happening on an everyday basis.

We should prepare ourselves to develop creativity before the company we work for adopts AI machines and technology, future changes cannot be denied that companies will update machines and adopt AI to reduce high expenses rather than employing humans with high budgets and working time limits. This is different from technology and machines which can work indefinitely and they only spend a high budget once when purchasing the machine.

The development of AI is still in progress and developers will improve the quality gradually to facilitate more efficient company performance, so prepare yourself to face the future and prepare anticipation to get another job or build a more profitable online business by utilizing the internet.

Work will never end is more accurate to say but it will change in its nature for sure, we can already see thats the case.  Over the last few centuries the world changed considerably away from simple labor and local markets to address the largest possible audience wherever possible.

   When you achieve mass revenue you are set to become rich from the economies of scale possible and that sums up modern efficient work, Musk involving AI in the argument wont change that its always going to be about efficiency of production.   So AI will continue in that ongoing process which is heavily in demand to serve world mass production.  Computers can already do a good job of following a task list, its long over due they become both more capable of self management of exceptions to their process but also easier to use for any human.

There are industries on which AI wont really be something relevant or not everything but there would really be those industries on which it would really be something that will be that benefited the most
when it comes to AI integration on which there's no doubt that they will really be switching it out and replacing those human staffs on which this is really something an inevitable change on some industries.
This is where lay off would really be happening and this is something that cant be stopped because a company would really be that definitely making up those changes but just like on what been said
above that there would really be still those companies  that would really be sticking into getting those human staffs because of the nature of their business that automation isnt everything.

If you are someone whose really that getting worried on losing up a job then it would really be always best that you should really be that mindful on trying to search for another side income
or even those jobs on which you know that cant be replaced whenever it would be happening when it comes to overall changes been made.

Yes that's right. The presence of AI is certainly not fully able to replace human work, indeed the existence of AI has a little impact on human work in general but there is no need to panic we must follow development and continue to adapt to this technology so that we continue to have creativity. Because of course everything must develop, but creativity is still owned by humans. Ride the waves, why Affed therefore, utilizing AI for more benefits, I myself use AI as the second brain, critical thinking still exists in the human brain.

So in my opinion, let this technology develop without limits in the industrial, agricultural, security, etc. sectors. To replace human labor. Because with AI technology is also very useful because AI works tirelessly, without being bored and not emotional. There are some workers who are not effective by using humans but are very effective if using AI and vice versa.

1 who does the prompt and about 2000 to check if that is fantasy, a plain lie or if there is truth behind it.

Logical thinking is not much different than solving mathematical problems. Humans absolutely suck at both. First-generation self-learning script could beat the best human chess player. What people are good at, is moving around, keeping our balance while running etc. But this will also be performed better by machines, if it isn't already (see Boston Dynamics etc).

We've heard it all before: computers will never beat humans in chess, then it was poker, then it was Go (a Chinese game), we've heard that AI can't design graphic/create music/write poems. All that turned out false.
From a materialistic perspective, we are nothing but biological machines and therefore there's nothing that makes us irreplaceable.


Do you honestly think the AI creators have your or mine best interest in mind, rather than just being profit-motivated and/or creating new things just to see if it's possible?
And I never understood the logic of pretending the problem does not exist as long as some people would still be needed. If 1,000 people get replaced with 1, then you still have 999 people with nothing to do.

We dont actually know on what are the things that he had on his mind on which we cant really be able to tell whether he would really be definitely making one or not on which it would really be that hard to point out whether he would be making an AI coin or would really be suggesting something on which everything would really be that remain speculative but its true that when it comes to manipulation or something then it would really be so hard for us to tell precisely whether it would happen or not. As for talking generally about AI on ending those manual work then it is really that somewhat in reality about this kind of situation
where those jobs that can really be automated or replaced by robot could really be possible and this is something inevitable when everything switches up to automation. There's no way that we could really be able to stop in speaking about development and progress and yes it could be having those cons but for the better or good then we would really be needing to adapt specially into those people who would really be that
potentially be affected whenever this time do happen or comes.

One thing that is lacking in AI is critical thinking.  Yes they can record, easily analyze and solve mathematical problems but when it comes to logical thinking, AI cannot out perform Human.  Aside from that, at the current technology, AI still needs human intervention to improve .  Ai only gathers information but is no where near on evolving itself. 

AI are created to give convenience to human, AI development and implementation may lead to some unemployment but it will not put an end to work especially in the agricultural industry.  Will AI be capable of husbandry or agricultural farming without the assistance of human?  I bet not.


I believe Elon influence had degraded since his manipulating power has already declined.  Many cryptocommunities are much smarter now, although there are some who tends to play dumb for personal reasons.  As the crypto industry grows old, people behind it are not as naive as before.  People learn from experience and won't easily get fooled for next time.