Topic: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now! - page 143. (Read 529096 times)

Dexcel are a manufacturer. Alpha-T played the Dexcel card to re-assure customers they were the real deal, and then due to poor communication by worried customers who had spent a lot of money, got harassed. So who's to blame here really? Alpha-T's lack of communication is appalling.

This is also just what we know. There may have been other problems which Dexcel had with Alpha-T we aren't aware of.

Personally I think this was just more AT spin.

You know, it always bothered me that Dexcel 'cut ties' because of the 'bad news' being spread. All the bad news BFL and KNC got, and foundries had no issues working with them publicly.

Makes you wonder if the foundry cut ties with them for some other reason... lack of payment?

That's it! 

I was just doing some quick research on  the Chinese operation Zeus Miner, first out the gate and met all their deadlines. While an incredibly crude device, you can touch it feel it switch it on and it does do something.

Now according to the available information, they received their "packet of chips" on April 30th 2014

https://zeusminer.com/2014/04/30/progress-update-30042014/

From that time to shipping out the door a finished product time was to May 20th 2014

https://zeusminer.com/2014/05/21/20140521/

Call it 1 month and this is them working 24/7 to make it world. PLUS they had on hand stock piled the chassis and the PCB boards all lined up where all that needed to be done is add the chip.


Where is Alpha-Tech's packet of chips as seen in the above link? It is the end of July now. If they do have their packets of chips, and they do have stock piles of chassis and PCB's best case scenario is end of August to exit their shipping door. Working 24/7 like the Chinese.

Alas there is not even a sketch of a packet of chips, a drawing of a chassis, a cartoon of a PCB. Nothing. Nothing but nattering about credit card processors, deleting posts asking where are the chips, diddling around making the website nicer, all for nothing. A big fat zero.



Nothing.

Sock puppets … standard scam operating procedure

yes , so i hope that all these refund fudders are not screwing with my asic.

having said that, i thought there would be an announcement today

According to standard workflow & payments in this business sector, foundry has to receive 100% payment before they start the final production. So if this would be the case chips are not kept at the foundry but simply are not produced yet.

Some may think that Alpha is busy with some important matters and that is why they don't have time to update on their forum.

This is not true. They are monitoring the forum continuously. Post are being deleted very quickly.

Like this one:
http://imgur.com/APAHbng

Yes indeed, I do believe they have already run out of middle fingers to give us. Onto the toes I suppose. Any of the obscene or childish posts here do not match the unconscionable behaviour being displayed. I fear will are about to enter the "doctor's appointment" or "family emergency" stage of excuses.

What I found interesting having not seen the accountant's blog before is the seemingly helpless victim trend ushered by them. Him first referring to haters "over there", the later on Dexcel removed their cooperation notice due to "haters over there" and even the very latest the webmaster referred to "external third-party sources" a/k/a "haters over there" for torpedoing the CC processor that they had in place. It is everyone else's fault except ours.  What we will get is we tried our best but due to circumstances out of our control it failed.

I am trying to visualize what precisely the case may be. 100% there is no product, no chips, no PCB's no cases, not even fans ordered. Not even a mock up of real case. At the  same time they must have "some" money it is a family of 4. Even a pocket full of tuppence. So what is the problem? Dexcel Design got paid and prepared the chip. End of formal relationship.  Now to try to get the chips made. Are we stuck at this stage, where their seemingly expert hired ASIC production manager failed to secure a timely spot at the Foundry? If so why not show that Dexcel has done their job and the design of the chip is as solid as it gets. Nothing. Nothing all the way back then presented that there has been any movement forward other than some crumby video taped in VHS of a FPGA prototype. Months ago.

If it is indeed all an elaborate scam to wait out the refund period then run. That can make sense as they simply just do not care.

If it is indeed lack of funds and they are scrambling around to secure finance as we see in the latest shareholder report, where does that leave us exactly. Back to square one.

- nothing shown to date that Dexcel money was well spent and that they actually have something to be manufactured i.e a chip
- now that they do have finance they still need to do that, take Dexcel's design find a foundry, get them made, secure boards, secure cases, secure components for the cases, assemble them, and then ship them out.

Absurd!

If with all the luck in the world the chips have been made and are not being released by the foundry due to lack of funds, why have they not even shown that stage to everyone.

None of it makes sense if you examine each step of the way. What I suspect by this total silences is that they are trying to procure already made third party chips and surreptitiously install that and  palm them off like there has been no problem all along.

1. If the pre-order money was in fact used and Dexcel did do something for it , it would have been shown long ago
2. If everything is on track up to and including chip making, that would have been shown long ago and a simple explanation being we need to final payment to procure the hardware to run these things.
3. If they plan on doing nothing and waiting for time to run out and run, that is the reason for complete silence
4. If they are mad scrambling to procure someone else's chips and even have them make everything for them, that is the reason for complete silence to date. They will step forward and gleefully show little imprints on the chips with their name on it and make like there was never anything wrong.

Instead of manning up and simply saying hey we have a problem but we have a solution the product you bought will be made and the specs. will be maintained we are working with a third party right now to do that, nothing is said. Nothing but finger pointing to third party external forces who don't like the because of their name or their religion or whatever other delusion they can think of.

The really sad thing is reading the forum you have people there blissfully unaware, crowing out how transparent they have been, how their product will be the best on the market how other companies are all scam, seemingly unaware that the Chinese have flooded the market for months now with functional miners and are in the midst of rapidly dropping the price to near zero. Some of them over there are cheerfully muttering about wondering how will the packaging look like, what color will it be, how loud will it be. They don't get it, there is not even a chip made to run these things, let alone packing boxes to ship them out!

Let's be realistic.

If they intend to ship units, they will ship units regardless of the criticism. They'll only use the backlash as a cowardly excuse if they didn't intend to ship. They deserve what they get at the moment. They've treated customers appallingly.

hmmm. so the update is no update.  big surprise :/

I'm wondering if we could all pitch in and buy bulldozers a ticket to go visit them, as his energy level would be better directed on them in person. We could telecast it live and charge a fee.

ALSO IF YOU NOTICE!!!!!

Remember that Tax Geek blog post they made on their forum talking about the laws for miners and taxes that I screen scrapped and posted here?

Guess what?

They deleted it!!!!

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This is a good one.  I screen caps a bunch of Fiaz's reddit posts before he went over there and deleted them all.  And this is a last one really that has anything posted by Fiaz in it that he has not deleted.  Abot this time he went on a major campaign deleted anything he ever posted and any other Alpha Tech employees posted here, on litecointalk, reddit, probably twitter.  Alpha tech aslo scrubbed their forum and did some major edits of their terms of service.

So the SHITE really hit the fan in mid June and they started panicking.  That is about a month after the chips should have been done and delivered.

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SEE GUYS.  They are still on track for a July ship date.

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*GRIN*  Didn't realize I was such a prognosticator.

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DON"T WORRY THE ARE SHIPPING IN JULY.  FIAZ SAID SO...

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OUR HEROES AT LARGE.