Alpha has just announced arrival of chips.
https://alpha-t.net/news/viper-chip/
I have a 50 Mh/s Viper order that for which the deposit has been paid, however I have not paid the balance. PM me if anyone has an interest in purchasing this pre-order.
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October 13, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
October 12, 2014, 11:23:43 AM
I have just had a PM from an Alpha customer who has just won a claim. Alpha's defence was STRUCK OUT and a judgement was issued against them. Alpha literally have NO DEFENCE. They have and will pay claims won against them. You can do some pretty heinous shit to a company once you have a judgement, including freezing bank accounts, summoning them to court to reveal their assets and making them bankrupt.
You can also raise the debt with the high court if they don't pay up (It costs around £60 to do this). Once high court enforcement officers are involved they don't mess about. When they turn up they won't be leaving without the money owed - even if they have to strip the place bare of assets.
October 12, 2014, 08:02:11 AM
Well...this week i got my deposit refunded in full from my Bank.
Started the proceedings a while back and first they (Alpha) replied with the standard answer (more than x months bla bla since the time of purchase).After they failed to deliver the miners by 30 sept i continued to argue my case with the bank (and also Paypal). While Paypal still wasn t cooperative the bank managed to refund my money.
Started the proceedings a while back and first they (Alpha) replied with the standard answer (more than x months bla bla since the time of purchase).After they failed to deliver the miners by 30 sept i continued to argue my case with the bank (and also Paypal). While Paypal still wasn t cooperative the bank managed to refund my money.
yep, there are a couple of avenues people can take in terms of argument and it seems it just depends on who you talk to.
my bank outright laughed at their trying to recategorize this as a B2B purchase and I mean the fraud rep laughed out loud and said "oh no, they can't do that", they asked for supporting docs to back that up, I provided them and they reversed the charge in about a week. it sat as a provisional credit for a couple of weeks then was finalized.
even in that circumstance, however, they wanted to wait until after they'd missed that first delivery date to file, and some people have said that this issue of delivery was primary to their bank, so this issue of delivery date is something that should be documented well in case you need it.
there is a lot of info on dates and supporting evidence for citing that they missed their delivery dates in this thread and on the sites a couple of websites people have put up.
some people are also trying to work with PayPal to get a case file built up with them to make this easier for people. As some have said it comes down to documenting there also. Those that have successfully gotten refunds from PayPal please post reference numbers so they can be cited by others arguing for refunds. Ditto for those that have won court cases.
It's great that some people have gotten their money back. If we can get some more documentation others will be able to do the same.
Those that have already done these things are in a position to help those still trying to get their money back. Hopefully we can get that and blow a gigantic hole through the PayPal wall and the same with the court cases. With case #'s etc., for people to cite in their filings, those cases just get stronger.
October 12, 2014, 05:27:26 AM
Well...this week i got my deposit refunded in full from my Bank.
Started the proceedings a while back and first they (Alpha) replied with the standard answer (more than x months bla bla since the time of purchase).After they failed to deliver the miners by 30 sept i continued to argue my case with the bank (and also Paypal). While Paypal still wasn t cooperative the bank managed to refund my money.
Started the proceedings a while back and first they (Alpha) replied with the standard answer (more than x months bla bla since the time of purchase).After they failed to deliver the miners by 30 sept i continued to argue my case with the bank (and also Paypal). While Paypal still wasn t cooperative the bank managed to refund my money.
October 12, 2014, 05:19:32 AM
Akram or your team, if you read this message know that fuck you you is what you is
October 12, 2014, 12:34:06 AM
I received an email from alpha regarding their miners. I can't believe this isn't a dead company by now. Even butterfly labs got shut down for a minute. 
Dude open your eyes 
October 11, 2014, 05:48:58 PM
I received an email from alpha regarding their miners. I can't believe this isn't a dead company by now. Even butterfly labs got shut down for a minute.
When did you get the E-Mail? Can you post it. I didn't get any since 6th October. October 11, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
I received an email from alpha regarding their miners. I can't believe this isn't a dead company by now. Even butterfly labs got shut down for a minute.
October 11, 2014, 03:07:14 PM
so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
Hello, can you provide a screenshot with a transaction ID? Paypal says their policy is if they refund one person regarding Alpha-T, they refund everyone. But they couldn't find any record of a refund given. You'd be helping a lot of people out.
I'd post the screenshot on http://fightalpha.net along with your BTC donation address.
I defiantly would donate some BTC for an ID of a PAYPAL transaction that received refund. I am getting zero from my refund request from PayPal.
I've posted this to fightalpha: http://fightalpha.net/index.php?topic=30.0
That's awesome. If some people want to post similar info on their court cases as well it would help. Images of orders, etc. Somebody said that the court tossed Alpha's case/argument out, which doesn't surprise me but I didn't have to take mine that route so I don't have that sort of documentation.
I have gotten my refund from a CC company, but have been in contact with PayPal over this to try to solidify their information and have been explaining the legal grounds to a caseworker person with respect to the DSR and Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 what Alpha has been trying to do in terms of categorizing these purchases as B2B after the fact.
They do see the point and are not arguing it at this point, however, they've asked if I could provide any info from those court cases. Obviously if people don't want to post personal info here, or hand it to me that's understandable. If you can PM me we can talk about how to get it to PayPal. Maybe just redact the persona info post a doc somewhere or something.
I have worked my way into their legal people and they are listening at this point, just asking for further documentation that people have successfully won these filing and the UK courts have already ruled in this fashion.
Basically, whatever documentation can be pulled together in an organized fashion on this will help.
Start your thread here: http://fightalpha.net/index.php?board=1.0
October 11, 2014, 10:44:23 AM
so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
Hello, can you provide a screenshot with a transaction ID? Paypal says their policy is if they refund one person regarding Alpha-T, they refund everyone. But they couldn't find any record of a refund given. You'd be helping a lot of people out.
I'd post the screenshot on http://fightalpha.net along with your BTC donation address.
I defiantly would donate some BTC for an ID of a PAYPAL transaction that received refund. I am getting zero from my refund request from PayPal.
I've posted this to fightalpha: http://fightalpha.net/index.php?topic=30.0
That's awesome. If some people want to post similar info on their court cases as well it would help. Images of orders, etc. Somebody said that the court tossed Alpha's case/argument out, which doesn't surprise me but I didn't have to take mine that route so I don't have that sort of documentation.
I have gotten my refund from a CC company, but have been in contact with PayPal over this to try to solidify their information and have been explaining the legal grounds to a caseworker person with respect to the DSR and Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 what Alpha has been trying to do in terms of categorizing these purchases as B2B after the fact.
They do see the point and are not arguing it at this point, however, they've asked if I could provide any info from those court cases. Obviously if people don't want to post personal info here, or hand it to me that's understandable. If you can PM me we can talk about how to get it to PayPal. Maybe just redact the persona info post a doc somewhere or something.
I have worked my way into their legal people and they are listening at this point, just asking for further documentation that people have successfully won these filing and the UK courts have already ruled in this fashion.
Basically, whatever documentation can be pulled together in an organized fashion on this will help.
October 11, 2014, 09:14:05 AM
so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
Hello, can you provide a screenshot with a transaction ID? Paypal says their policy is if they refund one person regarding Alpha-T, they refund everyone. But they couldn't find any record of a refund given. You'd be helping a lot of people out.
I'd post the screenshot on http://fightalpha.net along with your BTC donation address.
I defiantly would donate some BTC for an ID of a PAYPAL transaction that received refund. I am getting zero from my refund request from PayPal.
I've posted this to fightalpha: http://fightalpha.net/index.php?topic=30.0
October 11, 2014, 01:24:21 AM
Perhaps this might be useful, though not tested on claims against AT (?):
If you are an EU customer, you could try to use the European Small Claims Procedure for claims below 2000€ or the European Order for Payment Procedure for claims above 2000€ instead of the UK Small Claims procedure. These are standardized EU procedures that are implemented in national law by the member states. As a consumer, you file the application forms with a court in your own country, not in the defendant's country. The defendant has to reject the claims within 30 days or otherwise you get a title that is enforceable in the defendants country.
You can find the forms in all EU languages on the European e-Justice Portal:
European Small Claims Procedure (below 2000€)
https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_small_claims_forms-177-en.do
European Payment Order (above 2000€)
https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_european_payment_order_forms-156-en.do
To change the language of the PDF forms, use the dropdown on the top right corner of the website.
If you are an EU customer, you could try to use the European Small Claims Procedure for claims below 2000€ or the European Order for Payment Procedure for claims above 2000€ instead of the UK Small Claims procedure. These are standardized EU procedures that are implemented in national law by the member states. As a consumer, you file the application forms with a court in your own country, not in the defendant's country. The defendant has to reject the claims within 30 days or otherwise you get a title that is enforceable in the defendants country.
You can find the forms in all EU languages on the European e-Justice Portal:
European Small Claims Procedure (below 2000€)
https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_small_claims_forms-177-en.do
European Payment Order (above 2000€)
https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_european_payment_order_forms-156-en.do
To change the language of the PDF forms, use the dropdown on the top right corner of the website.
October 10, 2014, 05:35:10 PM
so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
Hello, can you provide a screenshot with a transaction ID? Paypal says their policy is if they refund one person regarding Alpha-T, they refund everyone. But they couldn't find any record of a refund given. You'd be helping a lot of people out.
I'd post the screenshot on http://fightalpha.net along with your BTC donation address.
I defiantly would donate some BTC for an ID of a PAYPAL transaction that received refund. I am getting zero from my refund request from PayPal.
October 10, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.
Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.
Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.
I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.
Hello, can you provide a screenshot with a transaction ID? Paypal says their policy is if they refund one person regarding Alpha-T, they refund everyone. But they couldn't find any record of a refund given. You'd be helping a lot of people out.
I'd post the screenshot on http://fightalpha.net along with your BTC donation address.
October 10, 2014, 12:13:34 PM
Aren't they overdue for an update? They supposedly had a big milestone a day or 2 ago.
Also for folks who are successful with your PayPal refunds, please post your transaction/refund info (ID's/etc) for everyone else to cross-reference.
Also for folks who are successful with your PayPal refunds, please post your transaction/refund info (ID's/etc) for everyone else to cross-reference.
There's always a big milestone, followed by a setback. This has been happening from the start. Customers are just being strung along for as far as they can get away with.
With so many ASIC manafacturer advancing and improving hashrates , power consumption of their units , Alpha-T has made progress for sure - BUT only on PAPER.
October 10, 2014, 09:49:18 AM
Aren't they overdue for an update? They supposedly had a big milestone a day or 2 ago.
Also for folks who are successful with your PayPal refunds, please post your transaction/refund info (ID's/etc) for everyone else to cross-reference.
Also for folks who are successful with your PayPal refunds, please post your transaction/refund info (ID's/etc) for everyone else to cross-reference.
There's always a big milestone, followed by a setback. This has been happening from the start. Customers are just being strung along for as far as they can get away with.
October 10, 2014, 07:59:31 AM
Aren't they overdue for an update? They supposedly had a big milestone a day or 2 ago.
Also for folks who are successful with your PayPal refunds, please post your transaction/refund info (ID's/etc) for everyone else to cross-reference.
Also for folks who are successful with your PayPal refunds, please post your transaction/refund info (ID's/etc) for everyone else to cross-reference.
October 09, 2014, 08:34:43 PM
I feel for you guys, that sucks.
After my Avalon batch 2 order was like 4 months late due to all the pre-mining Avalon did with it, I gave up on pre-orders. But at least I got my units eventually with Avalon. Hopefully Alpha is trying to ship a product and not just another scamming thief of the many, like Jon Montroll of Bitfunder.
Being in BTC can be tough. More than half the companies are scams (well mining wise anyways); can make you really bitter.
After my Avalon batch 2 order was like 4 months late due to all the pre-mining Avalon did with it, I gave up on pre-orders. But at least I got my units eventually with Avalon. Hopefully Alpha is trying to ship a product and not just another scamming thief of the many, like Jon Montroll of Bitfunder.
Being in BTC can be tough. More than half the companies are scams (well mining wise anyways); can make you really bitter.
October 09, 2014, 08:13:27 PM
Well, you don't even try to make a claim, you definitely deserve nothing back...
And, several people have been paid full refunds by Alpha after winning judgments. As long as they have money in the bank to pay, even Alpha isn't stupid enough to let a court ordered debt sit around for long. That next step you mention about going back to court to seize assets is something that Alpha will do anything to avoid until they actually are bankrupt.
^^ This. And, several people have been paid full refunds by Alpha after winning judgments. As long as they have money in the bank to pay, even Alpha isn't stupid enough to let a court ordered debt sit around for long. That next step you mention about going back to court to seize assets is something that Alpha will do anything to avoid until they actually are bankrupt.
For the life of me I really do not understand why people believe they cannot claim if they paid in BTC. Alpha received Pounds Sterling from you via bitpay, so however you paid, they owe it back. Yes you probably won't get the btc back but you will get the Sterling amount you paid.
I have just had a PM from an Alpha customer who has just won a claim. Alpha's defence was STRUCK OUT and a judgement was issued against them. Alpha literally have NO DEFENCE. They have and will pay claims won against them. You can do some pretty heinous shit to a company once you have a judgement, including freezing bank accounts, summoning them to court to reveal their assets and making them bankrupt.
For some reason they are trying to keep this clusterf**k of a company alive, my guess is they want to run an asic farm, so they will keep the company running until they've mined their equipment into the ground then they will dissolve and screw any suckers who swallowed the whole dividend "scheme"
So if you haven't already made a claim, I suggest you do so before the inevitable happens and they disappear.
October 09, 2014, 02:36:43 PM
Has there been made any judgements via money claims online (or via court) with reasoning written by a judge? (And not coz deadlines were missed by Alpha)
Alpha-T knows they are in the wrong and have to refund everyone that has paid for a device. They greedy, but aren't stupid enough to try to contest any claim against them.It's extremely clear that until delivery is made, anyone that has paid in full is entitled to a full refund under UK consumer protection laws. Alpha might try to scare people off from making claims by stating everyone was a business, but that's all it is - a scare tactic. Even they aren't stupid enough to think it would hold up in court.
Funny thing is that people using paypal. cc or wire transfers are in a much better situation than people using BTC to pay for the promise of scrypt miners 
I paid in full with BTC. I'm not going to see that money back. To all the people that have won Judgements... So what? How the **** are you going to collect?
And, several people have been paid full refunds by Alpha after winning judgments. As long as they have money in the bank to pay, even Alpha isn't stupid enough to let a court ordered debt sit around for long. That next step you mention about going back to court to seize assets is something that Alpha will do anything to avoid until they actually are bankrupt.
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