https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/more-alpha-technology-delays-802769
http://www.coindesk.com/alpha-technology-viper-scrypt-miner-shipments-slip-october/
Same old bullshit. More delays.
Update from Alpha here:
https://alpha-t.net/news/developmental-update-27092014/
Topic: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now! - page 63. (Read 529056 times)
September 29, 2014, 04:17:48 PM
September 29, 2014, 03:32:00 PM
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or Alpha believes in its reasonable opinion that your continued membership of the Scheme would be likely to bring Alpha or any party associated with it into disrepute
Don't think, even getting caught molesting goats, could bring any more disrepute on Alpha, than they are able to achieve themselves.
September 29, 2014, 12:09:46 PM
Captured: http://postimg.org/image/yncgmyds9/
What I found more interesting is the wording: "...this is something we have learnt we should have done from the start so we can avoid expectations and hopefully announce good news".
Also, found on here: http://postimg.org/image/yncgmyds9/ is the promise: "we will be paying extra to have every aspect of this next stage expedited and we expect shipping to commence sometime in the latter half of September"
So it's been 2 months, and they still haven't learned to properly project progress or discern management milestones. They will now be 3-4 months late on delivery, or another way to look at it, 1-5 gigahash behind global competition, and have failed to deliver prior to competition or at a better efficiency rate. Even if their gear exists and ships and is more efficient, the fact is with a growing nethash, hash power now is worth more than hash power down the road.
Also, keep in mind their share scheme is based on the company lasting for years, with more batches each year, and possibly someone like Facebook buying the company out (You can read that on their news page). They talked frequently about batch 2 orders, up until recently--they haven't talked about future batches in awhile now.
*golf clap for Alpha*
As retro and others have suggested, keep focusing on your cases and don't let up. 50/90mh machines are fast-tracking themselves the way of the dinosaurs, as competition ramps up multi-hundred MH systems, with some promises into the GH/multi-algo range fpr upcoming generations.
What I found more interesting is the wording: "...this is something we have learnt we should have done from the start so we can avoid expectations and hopefully announce good news".
Also, found on here: http://postimg.org/image/yncgmyds9/ is the promise: "we will be paying extra to have every aspect of this next stage expedited and we expect shipping to commence sometime in the latter half of September"
So it's been 2 months, and they still haven't learned to properly project progress or discern management milestones. They will now be 3-4 months late on delivery, or another way to look at it, 1-5 gigahash behind global competition, and have failed to deliver prior to competition or at a better efficiency rate. Even if their gear exists and ships and is more efficient, the fact is with a growing nethash, hash power now is worth more than hash power down the road.
Also, keep in mind their share scheme is based on the company lasting for years, with more batches each year, and possibly someone like Facebook buying the company out (You can read that on their news page). They talked frequently about batch 2 orders, up until recently--they haven't talked about future batches in awhile now.
*golf clap for Alpha*
As retro and others have suggested, keep focusing on your cases and don't let up. 50/90mh machines are fast-tracking themselves the way of the dinosaurs, as competition ramps up multi-hundred MH systems, with some promises into the GH/multi-algo range fpr upcoming generations.
September 29, 2014, 11:54:43 AM
Hi Mates,
I just found this post.
I also do not believe that AT is producing anything.
I requested full refund and wrote in their forum.
The result until now: No any reply to my e-mails and my account and IP were banned from their forum
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I just found this post.
I also do not believe that AT is producing anything.
I requested full refund and wrote in their forum.
The result until now: No any reply to my e-mails and my account and IP were banned from their forum
. September 29, 2014, 09:16:46 AM
Capture everything or they WILL delete/ adjust it! 
September 29, 2014, 06:16:06 AM
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In the interest of there being no confusion, July while it was our genuine expectation, is not mentioned in our terms. As a result of this we have decided to announce shipping to be September as per our terms
https://alpha-t.net/news/development-update-28072014/
2 days left in September. I suggest everyone logs this news entry as well as their T&Cs for when the inevitable happens.
I'm honestly expecting them to announce bankruptcy or closure, to be honest.
September 29, 2014, 12:00:09 AM
They are on track as predicted by folks who understand the ASIC development process... it was predicted they'd ship in November, and they are on that track. At least they didn't announce this 5 minutes before the Q3 deadline, but the reality is they've likely known about this for awhile..
For anyone who still believes in this "share scheme", where do you think you guys are getting your money from? They're not opening up new batches of gear. If they plan to ship a new, improved, batch within a month or so of the first.. they'd already have to have had it go through tapeout as well. Unless they open a batch after shipping, and then you guys wait years for anything to happen.
Seriously.. listen to the folks here, get cracking on your cases. Best of luck to everyone. This corpse continues to roll down the road.
For anyone who still believes in this "share scheme", where do you think you guys are getting your money from? They're not opening up new batches of gear. If they plan to ship a new, improved, batch within a month or so of the first.. they'd already have to have had it go through tapeout as well. Unless they open a batch after shipping, and then you guys wait years for anything to happen.
Seriously.. listen to the folks here, get cracking on your cases. Best of luck to everyone. This corpse continues to roll down the road.
September 28, 2014, 11:19:23 PM
Pre-ordered a batch 1 BFL miner and regretted it, but did get my USD ROI. (Would have been much better off buying BTC instead but whatever). I then stupidly believed the July release promised by these jokers and bough in again. NEVER AGAIN! Best case these ship 4 months late, bringing ROI from a few months to not-gonna-happen. Mark my words after dealing with these guys for most of a year now nobody will ever see one cent in dividends.
September 28, 2014, 08:50:53 PM
RickJamesBTC get served my nig. RIP.
September 28, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Good, ignore me again dumbshits. Just like you ignored constant warnings before they opened up payments on this scam. I, and many others, warned that this was too good to be true. You didn't listen, now you got ripped off. Guess what, that makes you an idiot. You don't get any pity for this, there was plenty of warning. This was like buying a handmade lottery ticket from a homeless guy, you get laughed at when you tell people.
like a lab monkey that gets a cookie every time he jerks himself off. just keeps on going and going and going. that fuckstick has to be raw by now.
BTW, this thread has turned into an informational source for people to try to get their money back.
I know it's difficult to see with your own goo all over your screen but don't be a lazy monkey. try to keep up with the thread you're posting on, even if it is just to increase your own hard-on.
Aww poor you. There is no money to get back. If you are still posting here waiting for responses from alpha you are too late. You should have been demanding your money back from whatever credit card company or bank you used to make the payment months ago. There is no recovery. If you paid in bitcoin, you are done. Why is this shit so hard to believe? You guys waited until SO MANY others had already been scammed, and the other manufacturers had already ruined the market, then you decided that this completely new one must be telling the truth and sent them your money. Beyond stupid.
I did, dumbass.
as I said, people are using this thread for a different purpose now. you can keep posting, although most people are simply going to add you to ignore, as everything that comes from your mouth is pointless shite.
back to beating your meat in your echo chamber now.....
Did you lose all your allowance on this scam? Seriously, you write like a 12 yr old. Just like the first person that commented pointed out, a bunch of stupid 12 yr olds got screwed because they were greedy. I don't care what you are using the thread for, it doesn't change the FACT that it was stupid to make this purchase.
I didn't lose a penny. zip.
your comprehension skills are lacking. you apparently do not comprehend what you are reading nor the fact that your opinion of any single person here is irrelevant.
you may think that all of this running commentary makes you look smart, although it really just makes you look like a pathetic ass, as you feel the need to continue to post "neener, neener, neener" and act as if it's the equivalent of Aristotle.
it really is a sad display and, try as you might, it is not accomplishing anything.
If you'd like to do something useful take this cornucopia of knowledge that you purport to possess and put together a thread on how to avoid scams. That might actually make you look intelligent. all of this bellicose bullshit certainly does not.
Kid who are you trying to annoy here? You can't win this argument, even if you keep trying. If you didn't lose money, and you are too new to even have been around in the beginning, what are you trying to achieve? Know what, I don't care. Nobody does.
I'm not trying to annoy anyone. You are the one that came in here and started flinging poo around like a crazed monkey. I'm sorry I'm not wired to simply take shit from some know it all moron whose idea of business is selling products to grow weed.
You're asking me what I'm doing here if I didn't lose money? If you don't see the irony of that I can't help you.
I'm glad you don't care. I doubt that the majority of people reading this thread would agree with your assessment that nobody does, given that you've come here to insult literally everyone and I was trying to help people here get their money back before you showed up with your stupid yap-yap-yap.
There is nothing to win. This is no contest. You're a troll who can't keep his fucking mouth shut and is being told to keep his fucking mouth shut. I don't care if you do and I don't care if you don't, but neither I, nor anyone else, is obligated to read your idiotic comments and not point out what a ridiculous lout you are. Kid.
September 28, 2014, 05:50:41 PM
Good, ignore me again dumbshits. Just like you ignored constant warnings before they opened up payments on this scam. I, and many others, warned that this was too good to be true. You didn't listen, now you got ripped off. Guess what, that makes you an idiot. You don't get any pity for this, there was plenty of warning. This was like buying a handmade lottery ticket from a homeless guy, you get laughed at when you tell people.
like a lab monkey that gets a cookie every time he jerks himself off. just keeps on going and going and going. that fuckstick has to be raw by now.
BTW, this thread has turned into an informational source for people to try to get their money back.
I know it's difficult to see with your own goo all over your screen but don't be a lazy monkey. try to keep up with the thread you're posting on, even if it is just to increase your own hard-on.
Aww poor you. There is no money to get back. If you are still posting here waiting for responses from alpha you are too late. You should have been demanding your money back from whatever credit card company or bank you used to make the payment months ago. There is no recovery. If you paid in bitcoin, you are done. Why is this shit so hard to believe? You guys waited until SO MANY others had already been scammed, and the other manufacturers had already ruined the market, then you decided that this completely new one must be telling the truth and sent them your money. Beyond stupid.
I did, dumbass.
as I said, people are using this thread for a different purpose now. you can keep posting, although most people are simply going to add you to ignore, as everything that comes from your mouth is pointless shite.
back to beating your meat in your echo chamber now.....
Did you lose all your allowance on this scam? Seriously, you write like a 12 yr old. Just like the first person that commented pointed out, a bunch of stupid 12 yr olds got screwed because they were greedy. I don't care what you are using the thread for, it doesn't change the FACT that it was stupid to make this purchase.
I didn't lose a penny. zip.
your comprehension skills are lacking. you apparently do not comprehend what you are reading nor the fact that your opinion of any single person here is irrelevant.
you may think that all of this running commentary makes you look smart, although it really just makes you look like a pathetic ass, as you feel the need to continue to post "neener, neener, neener" and act as if it's the equivalent of Aristotle.
it really is a sad display and, try as you might, it is not accomplishing anything.
If you'd like to do something useful take this cornucopia of knowledge that you purport to possess and put together a thread on how to avoid scams. That might actually make you look intelligent. all of this bellicose bullshit certainly does not.
Kid who are you trying to annoy here? You can't win this argument, even if you keep trying. If you didn't lose money, and you are too new to even have been around in the beginning, what are you trying to achieve? Know what, I don't care. Nobody does.
September 28, 2014, 02:40:24 PM
---Wrong Thread---
September 28, 2014, 12:56:41 PM
They've already said that the miners aren't going to be manufactuered by alpha. The manufacturing is going to be subcontracted to an assembler in India.
So get some photos from your subcontractor then. Cases, heat sinks, power supplies, cables. I want to see a picture of the plotter output of the Asic masks.
September 28, 2014, 11:11:49 AM
I do not believe that they will deliver Viper again in October and their loyalty program is to avoid them from court or get more time to stall and keep customers money.
If anyone is agreeing to accept their bonus compensation, they are loosing their right to sue them.
Keep that in mind and consult your lawyer before writing or accepting anything from them.
September 28, 2014, 11:07:33 AM
these remarks about terrorists are racist
Why? Almost all terrorists are Muslim. Not racist. It is a simple fact.
September 28, 2014, 11:05:48 AM
Exactly. The majority of components should be in. A production line should be up.
Photos are easy. If they had anything they'd be showing it.
I think so too. Unless they never intended to ship in July, September, at all?Photos are easy. If they had anything they'd be showing it.
They don't seem to be doing any of the design or manufacturing work in house. From what I have been able to gather from what little they have said, is that all the design work has been subcontracted out.
Subcontracting work is always a risk, because the subcontractor may not understand the urgency or there may be misunderstandings. It's worth pointing out that one of alpha's early design documents (from July 2013) which basically describes how a scrypt miner might work, and how the process of mining works, was written not by alpha, but by a subcontractor (Dexcel - curiously, the author's username left in the document's metadata is Amit Sinha, Dexcel's CEO).
In my experience of electronic design, for anything critical, you need to give your subcontractor as tight a specification as possible, preferably with a proof-of-concept or reference design. From what I can tell, alpha went to their engineering contractor Dexcel, and basically said "make scypt miner, pls!".
You can see the lack of focus in the design of the miner. There is a very complex, expensive, "viper interface board". It looks very nicely designed for the task, and it must have taken hundreds of man-hours to design, and given its complexity is likely to be expensive to manufacture; they've then needed to do a lot of porting of software to their custom hardware. Everyone else has just used an off-the-shelf $20 single-board computer like a raspberry pi, or a beagleboard.
They've already said that the miners aren't going to be manufactuered by alpha. The manufacturing is going to be subcontracted to an assembler in India.
September 28, 2014, 07:34:14 AM
These Alpha T scumbag banned me to access their lame forum as I encouraged people to submit a small claim case at https://myaccount.gateway.gov.uk
I tried to emails them more than twice but no reply however they PM me when I put LTCgear affliate link as my signature . See below what they sent. How unprofessional they are.
I do not believe that they will deliver Viper again in October and their loyalty program is to avoid them from court or get more time to stall and keep customers money.
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I tried to emails them more than twice but no reply however they PM me when I put LTCgear affliate link as my signature . See below what they sent. How unprofessional they are.
I do not believe that they will deliver Viper again in October and their loyalty program is to avoid them from court or get more time to stall and keep customers money.
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September 28, 2014, 03:48:10 AM
Miners, never go for their alternative compensation.
Demand to deliver as per specification before the date specified in the first contract or if that date passed then demand for 100% refund with interest and compensation.
You will become a loose if you are taking their new shame and arrangements.
Do you think this new company will survive to issue bonus for 5 years? It seems like a day dream for me.
Its very frustrating to see these dramas and these continuous deadline postponing.
You people form a group and decide things than fighting and posting here.
They don't even look at here.
I wonder how they can constantly say "very happy news for you" in all their so called updates.
For forming a group look for some legal assistance or another softwares like FB other than forum.
Forum is incapable of handing this.
I had some hope earlier in them even at later stages but now I believe that this drama will end with something like below.
"We are sorry, we tried a lot, but we couldn't achieve what we promised.
We done a lot than any other company for you. So we did Great!.
Hope you understand. We are giving you miners as said when you ordered.
Here is your 5Mhs miner. You are happy now and we did Great! for you.
We will send you bonuses each quarter for 5 years. So we are gaving you more than what we ordered.
So we are Very Happy!, you are Very Happy! and all are Very Happy!! Very Happy! Very Happy! everyone is Very Happy!
Have your miner and bye bye, please don't come to us any more.
"
Demand to deliver as per specification before the date specified in the first contract or if that date passed then demand for 100% refund with interest and compensation.
You will become a loose if you are taking their new shame and arrangements.
Do you think this new company will survive to issue bonus for 5 years? It seems like a day dream for me.
Its very frustrating to see these dramas and these continuous deadline postponing.
You people form a group and decide things than fighting and posting here.
They don't even look at here.
I wonder how they can constantly say "very happy news for you" in all their so called updates.
For forming a group look for some legal assistance or another softwares like FB other than forum.
Forum is incapable of handing this.
I had some hope earlier in them even at later stages but now I believe that this drama will end with something like below.
"We are sorry, we tried a lot, but we couldn't achieve what we promised.
We done a lot than any other company for you. So we did Great!.
Hope you understand. We are giving you miners as said when you ordered.
Here is your 5Mhs miner. You are happy now and we did Great! for you.
We will send you bonuses each quarter for 5 years. So we are gaving you more than what we ordered.
So we are Very Happy!, you are Very Happy! and all are Very Happy!! Very Happy! Very Happy! everyone is Very Happy!
Have your miner and bye bye, please don't come to us any more.
"
September 28, 2014, 03:11:51 AM
September 28, 2014, 02:36:41 AM
If Alpha-t are shipping in October, they should be able to show large supplies of cases, boards, power supplies, heat sinks, cables, packing boxes etc.
Show us some pictures Mohammud and show us a working Viper prototype mining on multipool.us with cgminer screen shots.
Show us some pictures Mohammud and show us a working Viper prototype mining on multipool.us with cgminer screen shots.
Exactly. The majority of components should be in. A production line should be up.
Photos are easy. If they had anything they'd be showing it.
Why spend the money on building supplies they don't need. After all, this company has how many employees? If Alpha is responsible for assembling your mining rigs then I'm sure they'll crank out at least one or two a week. Probably take them months to build all 10 miners that are actually still paid for. If they wait much longer they won't be shipping anything to anyone. Buying cases and boxes is probably the last thing they are worried about. They can't even keep a phone line operational, and we expect them to perform magic building ASICs?
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